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Topic: Sandra Cantu #2 4/09/09 - 4/15/09 (Read 439368 times)
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Re: Sandra Cantu, 8, missing 3/27/09 - Tracy, CA (Body Found) #2
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Quote from: klaasend on April 14, 2009, 06:40:38 PM
Quote from: Anna on April 14, 2009, 06:38:44 PM
Doesn't meth cause drastic weight loss?
Exactly Anna and if anything Melissa seems to have gained alot of weight.
It's weird because I thought she looked heavier, more bloated looking, but that could be if she is on some meds for mental issues, some of those really make you gain weight fast.
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Re: Sandra Cantu, 8, missing 3/27/09 - Tracy, CA (Body Found) #2
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Quote from: Blink34 on April 14, 2009, 06:44:03 PM
Quote from: klaasend on April 14, 2009, 06:02:35 PM
Quote from: Kat_Gram on April 14, 2009, 05:59:26 PM
Whatever happened, it happened quickly. Sandra was reported missing at 8 PM.
Is everyone forgetting that there was a report that Sandra was drugged ?
So, the idea that Melissa went ape poo at something Sandra did is a no go and way out of line.
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Sandra did nothing except be there.
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It happened so quickly it almost seems pre meditated.
I'm thinking the sexual part was pre-meditated but the death was not expected.
Agreed
Me too.
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Re: Sandra Cantu, 8, missing 3/27/09 - Tracy, CA (Body Found) #2
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Quote from: klaasend on April 14, 2009, 06:40:38 PM
Quote from: Anna on April 14, 2009, 06:38:44 PM
Doesn't meth cause drastic weight loss?
Exactly Anna and if anything Melissa seems to have gained alot of weight.
Anti depresants can cause weight gain? I don't think they would show a film to the family. I did see an interview where the dad says this comment, I just assumed he mis-spoke.
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Re: Sandra Cantu, 8, missing 3/27/09 - Tracy, CA (Body Found) #2
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Quote from: klaasend on April 14, 2009, 05:28:17 PM
Reminder - Casey did cry once too...when she knew she was caught
And this woman blushed brilliantly and closed her eyes when the charge of rape by a foreign object was stated. I think she was damned embarrassed.
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Re: Sandra Cantu, 8, missing 3/27/09 - Tracy, CA (Body Found) #2
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Quote from: Tracygirl on April 14, 2009, 06:46:26 PM
Quote from: klaasend on April 14, 2009, 06:40:38 PM
Quote from: Anna on April 14, 2009, 06:38:44 PM
Doesn't meth cause drastic weight loss?
Exactly Anna and if anything Melissa seems to have gained alot of weight.
Anti depresants can cause weight gain? I don't think they would show a film to the family. I did see an interview where the dad says this comment, I just assumed he mis-spoke.
Yes, there are some that can cause weight gain. She has a bloated look on her face to me.
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Re: Sandra Cantu, 8, missing 3/27/09 - Tracy, CA (Body Found) #2
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Quote from: klaasend on April 14, 2009, 06:43:30 PM
Quote from: klaasend on April 14, 2009, 06:40:38 PM
Quote from: Anna on April 14, 2009, 06:38:44 PM
Doesn't meth cause drastic weight loss?
Exactly Anna and if anything Melissa seems to have gained alot of weight.
A Meth user doesn't normally gain weight:
I'll tell y'all what I told Klaas privately, there is something wrong here, very wrong. This is either way bigger than we think or this is a species we have not seen. If that pic is accurate, this girl prob put on 40 pounds in 3.5 months, this is no meth user. Paranoid Schizo? Bi Polar with Manic?
Ok I am done armchairing her, but every fiber of my being tells me this girl is not a psychotic, pedaphillic, homicidal predator.. Am I off?
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I know for an absolute fact that there are pills for certain mental issues, that can literally make you fat very soon after you start taking them.
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Blink34
Ok I am done armchairing her, but every fiber of my being tells me this girl is not a psychotic, pedaphillic, homicidal predator.. Am I off?
I think you are right.. mo.
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Re: Sandra Cantu, 8, missing 3/27/09 - Tracy, CA (Body Found) #2
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NEW BLINK POST:
http://blinkoncrime.com/2009/04/14/sandra-cantu-case-huckaby-arraigned-for-murder-rape-molestation/
Sandra Cantu Case: Huckaby Arraigned for Kidnapping, Murder, Rape, Molestation
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Re: Sandra Cantu, 8, missing 3/27/09 - Tracy, CA (Body Found) #2
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Hello monkeys. I do understand how hard it can be for us all to comprehend such a hideous crime by a woman against a child. It is mind blowing. A lot of you think that this couldn't happen or that it can not just be this Melissa acting alone. I am leaning towards her acting alone. Let me explain why. I always have to analyse everything,lol. What I am about to show you all is not to try and point out that anyone is wrong or right here with opinions. Just want to help make you all aware that This type of crime does happen. There are female pedophiles, and they usually act alone.
First from a very good article on the subject.
I will post the article:
Natalie O'Brien, NEWS.com.au, & The Australian, March 7, 2006
The prevalence of female pedophiles preying on children in care is much higher than previously thought, according to a study that reveals a significant amount of the sexual abuse occurs when the women are in positions of authority.
The study, the first of its kind in Australia, shows female sexual predators are responsible for 6 per cent of all the reported cases of sexual abuse against children.
Much of the abuse occurs while the women are acting as babysitters or carers, says the study by Child Wise, the nation's peak child protection group.
Child Wise national program manager Karen Flanagan said while there was no definitive profile of female abusers, those known to have molested children included babysitters, nannies, nuns and teachers.
"It is fact of life that women have easy and open access to children all the time," she said.
"Women can and do use their positions of power to entrap vulnerable children."
However, the five-year study shows women are less likely than men to be prosecuted for their crimes against children.
Ms Flanagan said some sexual abuse of children by women was probably going undetected because women were traditionally seen as nurturers and not considered capable of sexually abusing children, unless they were coerced by a male partner.
But the research shows the majority of female abusers act alone.
The research was undertaken to determine how much sexual abuse was perpetrated by women working in childcare, health or welfare settings, schools, sporting groups, kindergartens and youth groups.
The threat posed by babysitters and nannies was also examined.
The research was based on Australian crime statistics and international studies relating to female predators.
The study found up to 30 per cent of child abuse by women occurs in an organisational setting, primarily while babysitting.
It shows that less than 2 per cent of cases reported to the police result in a jail term, compared with 16.5 per cent of cases involving men.
A review of South Australian and Victorian cases showed juvenile female offenders abused female children at twice the rate they abused boys.
Ms Flanagan said international studies showed the number of Australian female child sex predators was consistent with the rest of the world.
She said the study should be used to educate the community to raise awareness about the need to conduct checks on female carers, pointing out that male workers faced far greater scrutiny.
"The message is we should screen all people who work with children, whether it is in a formal or informal setting," Ms Flanagan said. "Organisations that look after children in any capacity have a duty of care to ensure they assess and screen all staff."
http://www.ipce.info/library_3/files/women/female_peds_undetected.htm
See what you all think, I really do think she could have done this alone as sick as it sounds but that is JMO.
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Re: Sandra Cantu, 8, missing 3/27/09 - Tracy, CA (Body Found) #2
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As I was reading about characteristics of pedofiles I saw this part that intrigued me;
Derives gratification in a number of ways. For some, looking is enough. For others, taking pictures or watching children undress is enough. Still others require more contact.
Finds different ways and places to be alone with children.
Could be she was making a movie and it went bad resulting in Sandra's death. I think there is more than possible drug over dose tho. It seems to me that there was some other damage done and they are questioning the COD. JMO
Here's the link if anyone wants to read the profile of pedofiles.
http://www.mental-health-matters.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=519
I also am on the fence on this I think she could of done it alone as well as with an accomplice. Most pedofiles carry on perfectly normal adult relationships they just have a sickness that they give into also. You just can't pick these people out of a crowd and once they offend they should be thrown away from society as far as I'm concerned. They do more damage than murder in alot of cases. And the worst part to me is that they can rationalize what they do in their minds and make it ok to go on and do it again. Fred stuck out to me when he commented about children being out unsupervised thereby placing the blame on the parents. Just some of my thoughts.
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Re: Sandra Cantu, 8, missing 3/27/09 - Tracy, CA (Body Found) #2
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Quote from: klaasend on April 14, 2009, 06:40:38 PM
Quote from: Anna on April 14, 2009, 06:38:44 PM
Doesn't meth cause drastic weight loss?
Exactly Anna and if anything Melissa seems to have gained alot of weight.
Also meth mouth and other physical changes amply documented on the Hayleigh thread.
She was reportedly hospitalized for bleeding ulcers...wouldn't that cause weight loss, not weight gain?
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Thank you for that research Elaine, it's hair-raising.
A new species of monster to consider, I guess!
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For some reason I still feel that she is covering for someone or someones. It could be her own child, her grandfather, sig-other, a porn ring of persons.....I just do not buy that this woman is the only responsible person/party for Sandra's demise.
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Quote from: no rose colored glasses on April 14, 2009, 06:38:27 PM
Quote from: Srobbins on April 14, 2009, 06:35:23 PM
Hey Monkeys!
I just read this comment of the Tracy Press website!
"I just read on msnbc that
her dad said that the woman he saw in the film was not the daughter he knew
. so i assume that means they have a tape of the sexual assault and that her family was shown the tape. that leads me to believe they are not involved. and that confirms my suspicion that Melissa had a meth habit and was creating child porn and selling it to support her habit....drug addicts do unbelievable things to get their next fix"
Do you think that it is the tape of her getting arrested or a film of child porn of some kind? I pray to God that there is no tape of this poor babies torture and death. But I guess if there was it would show the other people involved, we I really believe she did not act alone!
Also, it said on the same site in the comment section "As for the long hair found cut and the black hair dye for men found ... none of his public appearances show him with black hair (Frank Williams)." I do believe that Frank Williams is involved in this! This comment strikes me because awhile back, before we knew the identity of Frank Williams, someone said on SM that they knew him from somewhere and his ruts were showing, like he died his hair, hmmm!
I'm glad you brought that up, I forgot about the hair found cut and hair dye, and if I'm not mistaken didn't LE make a comment about if you have noticed someone who has changed their appearance....
Where did they find the cut hair and the hair dye? Missed that.
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Re: Sandra Cantu, 8, missing 3/27/09 - Tracy, CA (Body Found) #2
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Quote from: Blink34 on April 14, 2009, 06:51:13 PM
Quote from: klaasend on April 14, 2009, 06:43:30 PM
Quote from: klaasend on April 14, 2009, 06:40:38 PM
Quote from: Anna on April 14, 2009, 06:38:44 PM
Doesn't meth cause drastic weight loss?
Exactly Anna and if anything Melissa seems to have gained alot of weight.
A Meth user doesn't normally gain weight:
I'll tell y'all what I told Klaas privately, there is something wrong here, very wrong. This is either way bigger than we think or this is a species we have not seen. If that pic is accurate, this girl prob put on 40 pounds in 3.5 months, this is no meth user. Paranoid Schizo? Bi Polar with Manic?
Ok I am done armchairing her, but every fiber of my being tells me this girl is not a psychotic, pedaphillic, homicidal predator.. Am I off?
I agree with you Blink. There is something way off about this whole thing.
She looks like someone I might be friends with. I mean she does not look like a meth head, she does not look like a junky to me at all. She l
ooks
like a normal woman. Obviously looks can be deceiving because she stands accused of the most horrific things a person can be accused of.
I was very taken back when I saw her today. I expected dead eyes, gaunt face, something familiar with the crimes she stands accused of. Something I could look at and say "it's hidden well but
there
it is".....and I didnt see it.
I believe more now then ever that she did not act alone and I whole heatedly agree that the molestation may have been premeditated and this may not have been the first time either BUT I think Sandra's death was not premeditated at least not by MH. No way to know if it was PM by the other party or parties involved as we dont yet know who they were. I hope they are yanked from underneath there rocks at some point soon.
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So which is it, solution or problem?
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Quote from: Srobbins on April 14, 2009, 06:35:23 PM
Hey Monkeys!
I just read this comment of the Tracy Press website!
"I just read on msnbc that
her dad said that the woman he saw in the film was not the daughter he knew
. so i assume that means they have a tape of the sexual assault and that her family was shown the tape. that leads me to believe they are not involved. and that confirms my suspicion that Melissa had a meth habit and was creating child porn and selling it to support her habit....drug addicts do unbelievable things to get their next fix"
Do you think that it is the tape of her getting arrested or a film of child porn of some kind? I pray to God that there is no tape of this poor babies torture and death. But I guess if there was it would show the other people involved, we I really believe she did not act alone!
Also, it said on the same site in the comment section "As for the long hair found cut and the black hair dye for men found ... none of his public appearances show him with black hair (Frank Williams)." I do believe that Frank Williams is involved in this! This comment strikes me because awhile back, before we knew the identity of Frank Williams, someone said on SM that they knew him from somewhere and his ruts were showing, like he died his hair, hmmm!
The LE would not show any film of her caught in the act of anything to her family, and i am sure not to her defense as yet. That is evidence, if it exists. I am sure they are talking about films of her talking to the press.
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Quote from: A's Fever on April 14, 2009, 07:25:17 PM
Thank you for that research Elaine, it's hair-raising.
A new species of monster to consider, I guess!
You are very welcome. There are also numerous other articles online about this subject.
It is hair-raising yes, and mind boggling. But as sick as it is it seems it does happen.
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Quote from: Anna on April 14, 2009, 06:38:44 PM
Doesn't meth cause drastic weight loss?
Yes, and I am questioning the 5'3" and 125lbs that was listed on her arrest.
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Quote from: AZSunny on April 14, 2009, 07:32:27 PM
Quote from: Anna on April 14, 2009, 06:38:44 PM
Doesn't meth cause drastic weight loss?
Yes, and I am questioning the 5'3" and 125lbs that was listed on her arrest.
Maybe that is what is listed on her DL. I know mine has me
slightly
thinner then I am currently. The first pics we see of her at Christmas time she looks 125.
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My Dad always told me "If you're not part of the solution, You're part of the problem".
So which is it, solution or problem?
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===> Social Media
===> Music
===> Books
===> Scared Monkeys Radio with Dana Pretzer
=> Health and Medical Issues
=> Food and Product Recalls
=> News of the Day
=> Business News
=> Sports
=> Political Forum
=> Religion (discussion and debate)
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The Monkey Lounge
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=> The Monkey Lounge
===> Fashion & Decorating
===> What's Cooking? Recipes
===> Games
=> Inspirational
===> Memorial - Gone but Never Forgotten
===> Gratefulness - Light a Candle in Prayer
===> Inspirational scriptures, songs, stories and prayers
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Natalee Discussions (2005 ARCHIVE)
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=> Natalee Holloway
=> Theory and Speculation
=> Links and References Only
=> Natalee Breaking News Archive
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General Discussions (2005 ARCHIVE)
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=> News Issues
=> Chit Chat
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