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« Reply #880 on: April 11, 2009, 02:25:55 PM »

Tracygirl I think that you may be on to something in regards to this being a part of the child porn ring there in Tracy.

Per Miss Blink

"By Huckaby’s own admission, she volunteered that as recently as a few months ago, she was interviewed by police regarding a 7 year old girl from the Orchard Estates Mobile Home Park who she had taken to a nearby park three times during that week with her five year old daughter.  She stated to several reporters in telephone interviews late yesterday afternoon that at approximately 2 am,  hours after she returned the young playmate, police showed up at her trailer and told her the child had narcotics in her system. Blink on Crime has attempted to corroberate this information with Sgt. Tony Sheneman of the Tracy Police Department, but Sheneman was unaware of the incident. He has requested that information from Investigators. Regarding the suitcase she claimed had been stolen, she told reporters that she did not have online access to report it, but her myspace page indicates otherwise."

http://blinkoncrime.com/2009/04/11/sandra-cantu-murder-melissa-huckaby-arrested/#more-1030

It seems that Sandra is not the only child she has taken.  I mean is her 5 y/o that much of a menace that she has to kidnap other children just so that her child has a playmate?  Why would you need to drug a child if they were just playing in the park?

Maybe she used her daughter to lure children to her? It has happened 2 times we know of,there has to be more.

Why the kidnapping charge? She must have taken her outside of the mhp, if she was dead when she left there would be no kidnapping. If Sandra went to her house and went in, that is not kidnapping.

My thoughts exactly. It has been done in the past, a child makes another child feel that they can trust the stranger or semi stranger more.

They need to talk to Melissas child.
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« Reply #881 on: April 11, 2009, 02:26:25 PM »

I've been thinking that it's also possible she was smothered.
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« Reply #882 on: April 11, 2009, 02:26:57 PM »

Ok.. here's the way I see what happened.

Melissa Huckaby drives herself to the police station last night around 11. Is questioned and at some point there is enough of a statement (including suitcase in police custody) to arrest her for the murder of Sandra Cantu.

At what point did the police go from far -reaching implications to no other arrests anticipated? How did that occur?

What did she say that changed everything? I'm totally confused here.
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To me it seems to be their MO - they have held everything so close to the vest and I think they want the media attention to die down so they can continue their job.  That many search warrents - just seems if they are not related, they are on to something and for the people of Tracy I hope it is they have a number on the porn ring.

I dunno Rob. It could because FBI was telling them the profile they were looking for was a man and statistics show that if woman do kill children that are not their own, there is usually another man involved.....

Then after she confessed fully or upon further investigation they someone concluded that she acted alone.


I dunno...it's mind boggling.
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« Reply #883 on: April 11, 2009, 02:27:19 PM »

why was the church search twice and a (rollaway??) bed seized if the statement today is correct. And it is believed that Sandra was most likely killed at Melissa's home where she was last seen on video skipping toward?

as of last night Melissa's home was not thought to be the crime scene. Or am I missing something here?

how come 2+2 is equaling 7

anyone else?
And not only that, the bed was taken on the second search of the church. And I thought Melissa's daughter and grandma were in the mobile home that afternoon, so either Melissa killed Sandra with two other people in the trailer, or that is a lie also. So why isn't the home a crime scene, but crime scene tape went up two times at the church. CSI was even on the roof of the church yesterday.

I thought her daughter wasn't home at the time.

Did she severely injury Sandra at the home and then take her to the church and put her on the bed where she died.  This would be kidnapping too.
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« Reply #884 on: April 11, 2009, 02:27:47 PM »

I am going out on a limb.  It could be that I have been involved in the Natalee Holloway case way too long.

 

I am suspicious ... when I consider that there was no legal action by Tracy law enforcement against Melissa in regards to the drugging incident and ... when I consider there was no legal action by Tracy law enforcement against a Karate instructor in regards to inappropriately kissing a six year old Sandra Cantu on the lips.

Now Melissa Huckaby is being detained as the only suspect and ... unlike the Casey Anthony case ... the details are not being released to the public.

As an appeasement those who are demanding justice for Sandra Cantu ... could it be that there is a plan within law enforcement that implication will stop and end with Melissa Huckaby and ... the other persons of interest connected to Melissa and the church will become non-issues?

Could it be that a plea deal by law enforcement with Melissa Huckaby for her confession implies the consequences of her actions will encompasses an insanity defence?

In otherword ... could a child pornography ring in Tracy be very far reaching in regards to who is involved?

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« Reply #885 on: April 11, 2009, 02:30:57 PM »

you probably don't know this but WS supports pedophiles and had one as an admin. So don't worry what any of those freaks say.

anyone with a shred of decency left that dump in the dust.
There is another pedophile as an admin there?  I read they banned Windchime, was not aware there were more!  WS and Topix both are icky IMO - nothing but a rumor mill full of nuts.

Past tense, had one as an admin.  Not to mention that a letter of 'explanation' from that person's sister was allowed to be posted, at the same time NO questions/comments from any member of that site were allowed, and even a bannable offense.   
 
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« Reply #886 on: April 11, 2009, 02:31:23 PM »

I am going out on a limb.  It could be that I have been involved in the Natalee Holloway case way too long.

 

I am suspicious ... when I consider that there was no legal action by Tracy law enforcement against Melissa in regards to the drugging incident and ... when I consider there was no legal action by Tracy law enforcement against a Karate instructor in regards to inappropriately kissing a six year old Sandra Cantu on the lips.

Now Melissa Huckaby is being detained as the only suspect and ... unlike the Casey Anthony case ... the details are not being released to the public.

As an appeasement those who are demanding justice for Sandra Cantu ... could it be that there is a plan within law enforcement that implication will stop and end with Melissa Huckaby and ... the other persons of interest connected to Melissa and the church will become non-issues?

Could it be that a plea deal by law enforcement with Melissa Huckaby for her confession implies the consequences of her actions will encompasses an insanity defence?

In otherword ... could a child pornography ring in Tracy be very far reaching in regards to who is involved?

Janet

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Are you thinking in terms that the ring may reach into the higher ranking officers of the police dept and possibly the mayors offices?  and that Melissa is the skape goat to take the fall on all of this?
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« Reply #887 on: April 11, 2009, 02:34:09 PM »

Hi Everyone,
I've been skimming ahead looking for any updates here, Connie Lawless's comment in the beginning keeps coming to my mind about the Sandra being abused.  I say the Grandparents know more than they claim.  Also, Tracygirl, I truly want to thank you for all your help in this case, you took the time to look for this child, and update us on your knowledge of things in Tracy.  I really looked forward to hearing anything you had to say. Again, THANK YOU!!
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« Reply #888 on: April 11, 2009, 02:37:01 PM »



whoaaaa...they dont expect any other arrests in this case!

and that's that! cases concluded according to the news conference.

shocking. Acted alone apparently with no outside help or accomplices.

this ratchets up the motive here. And the police better be right.

what could the motive now be?

female sexual predator? - doesn't seem likely from what I've read - but who knows?

jealousy? - who knows?

just killed to see what it was like? who knows?

she's crazy? who knows?

I'm perplexed why this all happened and she has a child of her own. Seems to me her own child would be her target not a neighborhood child. Children are often killed by their own parent and we all know that the mother is sometimes responsible.

I just think this is an odd explanation -female kills neighborhood girl for no apparent reason. WTH? 


I agree Rob. 

Could LE saying they dont expect any other arrests in this case, be an attempt at soothing the locals into a false sense of 'ok, everythings taken care of now, we can all relax'..... while at the same time LE may have NO CLUE yet where else to turn, just not sure yet who all else may be involved, just not ready yet to make those further arrests, or not sure yet how to tie what they may know together with this case. 

So let's just put a bandaid on this case, and call it closed.  Locals can relax and put their fears and vigilante justice feelings on a back burner.  LE has it all under control.  (and I was born at night, but it wasn't last night, or even the night before).

In essence... *if* this is what LE is doing in this case, it's an insult to the family, the locals, and crime victims everywhere. 

And for what?  cover your a$$.  soothe the ruffled feelings.  lets get things back to 'normal'. IMO.

 

Very well put! yes this is what I am afraid is happening. Meanwhile we have 60 people who are into child porn, we don't know who they are, who to protect our children from.


My heart goes out to your Tracygirl and your community.

It's a scary world our young kids are living in nowadays. Back when we were kids, we were roaming the streets from daylight to dawn.

You have to protect your children from everyone and you have to teach them how to protect themselves for when you can't be with them every second. Even young kids can be taught.

I posted a link before to a great program that Elizabeth's Smart dad is working on getting the word out for. They come into schools and teach kids about pedophiles, predictors, abuse, school violence and bullying. They empower kids and teach them how to act/react and defend themselves.  If your school doesn't have a similar program, the website gives you all the details how you can start one in your area.

Here is the link:

http://www.radkids.org
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whoaaaa...they dont expect any other arrests in this case!

and that's that! cases concluded according to the news conference.

shocking. Acted alone apparently with no outside help or accomplices.

this ratchets up the motive here. And the police better be right.

what could the motive now be?

female sexual predator? - doesn't seem likely from what I've read - but who knows?

jealousy? - who knows?

just killed to see what it was like? who knows?

she's crazy? who knows?

I'm perplexed why this all happened and she has a child of her own. Seems to me her own child would be her target not a neighborhood child. Children are often killed by their own parent and we all know that the mother is sometimes responsible.

I just think this is an odd explanation -female kills neighborhood girl for no apparent reason. WTH? 


I agree Rob. 

Could LE saying they dont expect any other arrests in this case, be an attempt at soothing the locals into a false sense of 'ok, everythings taken care of now, we can all relax'..... while at the same time LE may have NO CLUE yet where else to turn, just not sure yet who all else may be involved, just not ready yet to make those further arrests, or not sure yet how to tie what they may know together with this case. 

So let's just put a bandaid on this case, and call it closed.  Locals can relax and put their fears and vigilante justice feelings on a back burner.  LE has it all under control.  (and I was born at night, but it wasn't last night, or even the night before).

In essence... *if* this is what LE is doing in this case, it's an insult to the family, the locals, and crime victims everywhere. 

And for what?  cover your a$$.  soothe the ruffled feelings.  lets get things back to 'normal'. IMO.

 

Very well put! yes this is what I am afraid is happening. Meanwhile we have 60 people who are into child porn, we don't know who they are, who to protect our children from.

 

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« Reply #890 on: April 11, 2009, 02:38:54 PM »

I am going out on a limb.  It could be that I have been involved in the Natalee Holloway case way too long.

 

I am suspicious ... when I consider that there was no legal action by Tracy law enforcement against Melissa in regards to the drugging incident involving a child and ... when I consider there was no legal action by Tracy law enforcement against a Karate instructor in regards to inappropriately kissing a six year old Sandra Cantu on the lips.

Now Melissa Huckaby is being detained as the only suspect and ... unlike the Casey Anthony case ... the details are not being released to the public.

As an appeasement those who are demanding justice for Sandra Cantu ... could it be that there is a plan within law enforcement that implication will stop and end with Melissa Huckaby and ... the other persons of interest connected to Melissa and the church will become non-issues?

Could it be that a plea deal by law enforcement with Melissa Huckaby for her confession implies the consequences of her actions will encompasses an insanity defence?

In otherword ... could a child pornography ring in Tracy be very far reaching in regards to who is involved?

Janet

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Are you thinking in terms that the ring may reach into the higher ranking officers of the police dept and possibly the mayors offices?  and that Melissa is the skape goat to take the fall on all of this?

Just speculating.  I have no idea how far reaching.

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« Reply #891 on: April 11, 2009, 02:41:08 PM »

why was the church search twice and a (rollaway??) bed seized if the statement today is correct. And it is believed that Sandra was most likely killed at Melissa's home where she was last seen on video skipping toward?

as of last night Melissa's home was not thought to be the crime scene. Or am I missing something here?

how come 2+2 is equaling 7

anyone else?
And not only that, the bed was taken on the second search of the church. And I thought Melissa's daughter and grandma were in the mobile home that afternoon, so either Melissa killed Sandra with two other people in the trailer, or that is a lie also. So why isn't the home a crime scene, but crime scene tape went up two times at the church. CSI was even on the roof of the church yesterday.

I thought her daughter wasn't home at the time.

Did she severely injury Sandra at the home and then take her to the church and put her on the bed where she died.  This would be kidnapping too.
This is what I'm mixed up about, one of Melissa's stories, is that Sandra's older sister came by, and Melissa asked the sibling if she would watch the five year old for a little while, even though the great grandma was home 
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« Reply #892 on: April 11, 2009, 02:42:43 PM »

Maybe she used her daughter to lure children to her? It has happened 2 times we know of,there has to be more.

Why the kidnapping charge? She must have taken her outside of the mhp, if she was dead when she left there would be no kidnapping. If Sandra went to her house and went in, that is not kidnapping.

This is what I'm thinking.  She lured, drugged and led the lamb to slaughter.  In this case, something went wrong.  I think she just either overdosed her or Sandra had some other drug related reaction which killed her.

However, I'm wondering if the bed was moved to the church later - as in, to get it out of her house.  If something had happened on that bed, they might have been dropping it like a hot potato.

I go back and forth between thinking that she was taken out of the MHP and that she wasn't.  The only thing that makes me think she wasn't is that they say she died so quickly after we see her skipping in the video.   Unless she drugged her and then took her out of the MHP. 
That bed had to have been moved to the church, after the first search of the church. And if that is the case, did nobody notice this?
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« Reply #893 on: April 11, 2009, 02:44:50 PM »

why was the church search twice and a (rollaway??) bed seized if the statement today is correct. And it is believed that Sandra was most likely killed at Melissa's home where she was last seen on video skipping toward?

as of last night Melissa's home was not thought to be the crime scene. Or am I missing something here?

how come 2+2 is equaling 7

anyone else?
And not only that, the bed was taken on the second search of the church. And I thought Melissa's daughter and grandma were in the mobile home that afternoon, so either Melissa killed Sandra with two other people in the trailer, or that is a lie also. So why isn't the home a crime scene, but crime scene tape went up two times at the church. CSI was even on the roof of the church yesterday.

IIRC, it's been said that it was a lie also.
 
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« Reply #894 on: April 11, 2009, 02:44:50 PM »

Something is not making sense here.

60 people involved in some sort of child porn and this seems to be a side issue, HUH?? WTH?? After-all that has been done to combat child-porn and all the money spent to protect kids - this seems like it would garner a ticker-tape parade. But what do I know, I'm just an internet poster.

A child is missing and found murdered in a suitcase and now the case went from wide-reaching implications to zipped, clipped and nothing to see. 


One other child has been confirmed drugged by the main and only suspect in the murder of the missing child - Sandra Cantu and there is no connection here at all?

The family of the main suspect themselves seem to know more than they were saying and now it's back to business as usual?

I just don't get it.



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« Reply #895 on: April 11, 2009, 02:49:13 PM »

Sheneman said:

1.  There is NO reason to believe Sandra Cantu's body is in that luggage (4/6/09)
2.  I don't know where the rumors are coming from, there is no arrest immenant (4/10/09pm) Melissa arrested a few hours late.
3.  Melissa Huckaby is arrested for the kidnapping and murder of Sandra - she acted alone - no other arrests coming. (4/11/09)


I like Sheneman but sometimes he doesn't tell us what is really going on, likely due to the ongoing investigation.  I will be really surprised if this doesn't involve other people.



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« Reply #896 on: April 11, 2009, 02:49:26 PM »

I am going out on a limb.  It could be that I have been involved in the Natalee Holloway case way too long.

 

I am suspicious ... when I consider that there was no legal action by Tracy law enforcement against Melissa in regards to the drugging incident and ... when I consider there was no legal action by Tracy law enforcement against a Karate instructor in regards to inappropriately kissing a six year old Sandra Cantu on the lips.

Now Melissa Huckaby is being detained as the only suspect and ... unlike the Casey Anthony case ... the details are not being released to the public.

As an appeasement those who are demanding justice for Sandra Cantu ... could it be that there is a plan within law enforcement that implication will stop and end with Melissa Huckaby and ... the other persons of interest connected to Melissa and the church will become non-issues?

Could it be that a plea deal by law enforcement with Melissa Huckaby for her confession implies the consequences of her actions will encompasses an insanity defence?

In otherword ... could a child pornography ring in Tracy be very far reaching in regards to who is involved?

Janet

Yes, could very well be, because this is not adding up. The kissing incident, and the questioning of Melissa about drugging a seven year old, was it swept under the rug?
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« Reply #897 on: April 11, 2009, 02:49:30 PM »

Something is not making sense here.

60 people involved in some sort of child porn and this seems to be a side issue, HUH?? WTH?? After-all that has been done to combat child-porn and all the money spent to protect kids - this seems like it would garner a ticker-tape parade. But what do I know, I'm just an internet poster.

A child is missing and found murdered in a suitcase and now the case went from wide-reaching implications to zipped, clipped and nothing to see. 


One other child has been confirmed drugged by the main and only suspect in the murder of the missing child - Sandra Cantu and there is no connection here at all?

The family of the main suspect themselves seem to know more than they were saying and now it's back to business as usual?

I just don't get it.






Neither do I Rob.

She was questioned but wasn't charged in that other incident, correct?
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« Reply #898 on: April 11, 2009, 02:53:01 PM »

Sheneman said:

1.  There is NO reason to believe Sandra Cantu's body is in that luggage (4/6/09)
2.  I don't know where the rumors are coming from, there is no arrest immenant (4/10/09pm) Melissa arrested a few hours late.
3.  Melissa Huckaby is arrested for the kidnapping and murder of Sandra - she acted alone - no other arrests coming. (4/11/09)


I like Sheneman but sometimes he doesn't tell us what is really going on, likely due to the ongoing investigation.  I will be really surprised if this doesn't involve other people.




I agree completely. I like him too and I am sure he knew what was going on all those times and I am sure he knows now. I would rather he keep us and the perps in the dark so that TPD can do what needs to be done when it needs to be done and how it needs to be done.
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« Reply #899 on: April 11, 2009, 02:54:27 PM »

I am going out on a limb.  It could be that I have been involved in the Natalee Holloway case way too long.

 

I am suspicious ... when I consider that there was no legal action by Tracy law enforcement against Melissa in regards to the drugging incident and ... when I consider there was no legal action by Tracy law enforcement against a Karate instructor in regards to inappropriately kissing a six year old Sandra Cantu on the lips.

Now Melissa Huckaby is being detained as the only suspect and ... unlike the Casey Anthony case ... the details are not being released to the public.

As an appeasement those who are demanding justice for Sandra Cantu ... could it be that there is a plan within law enforcement that implication will stop and end with Melissa Huckaby and ... the other persons of interest connected to Melissa and the church will become non-issues?

Could it be that a plea deal by law enforcement with Melissa Huckaby for her confession implies the consequences of her actions will encompasses an insanity defence?

In otherword ... could a child pornography ring in Tracy be very far reaching in regards to who is involved?

Janet

Yes, could very well be, because this is not adding up. The kissing incident, and the questioning of Melissa about drugging a seven year old, was it swept under the rug?

I believe that Melissa Huckaby unintentionally caused Sandra Cantu's demise through drugging but ... the drugging is not the whole picture.  I suspect that the whole picture involves those persons of interest who were connected to Melissa and the church.

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