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Re: Sandra Cantu, 8, missing 3/27/09 - Tracy, CA (Body Found) #2
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so perhaps MH was trying to commit suicide when she was taken to the hospital ?
does anyone think that Melissa was the "caller" who reported the suitcase being in the water? or was it one of the farmers' helpers who called ? I read somewhere that the police went there on a tip....
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I tend to agree, I cant close the door that there wasnt any sexual intent nor if someone else is additionally involved.
Happy Easter to everyone here, I know we all will have Sandra's family in our prayers.
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Tracygirl,
Thank you for all the information you have given us from a local perspective. Some of us have been here since Natalee Holloway disappeared in 2005 and will continue as long as it takes or until Beth tells us it's over.
I continue to read with concern about the alleged 60 individuals with child pornography in their possession via the internet as these children are victims as well. They also deserve justice.
My thoughts on this current suicide watch is that perhaps this woman thinks that will constitute grounds for an insanity defense. It won't. She is in for a very rude dose of reality in that regard if that is what she is thinking. Many criminals become suicidal when faced with the consequences of their actions but that in and of itself means little in a court of law.
Prayers for all whose lives have been touched by this very sad event on this Holy Day.
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Sweet Anna...hope you have a wonderful day....
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I hate to even write this. I have never seen kiddie porn before and I never want to. But, couldn't she have been drugged, picutres taken of her, and then reclothed? The reason I am thinking this is because of the bed at the church. I hope I don't offend any of my monkey friends. I am just trying to wrap my mind around the why this happened. Maybe too much drugs and didn't wake up...I believe others are involved.
Has anyone heard of a camera being found?
God bess little Sandra and her family. My heart is very heavy.
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Quote from: danabar on April 12, 2009, 09:27:30 AM
I hate to even write this. I have never seen kiddie porn before and I never want to. But, couldn't she have been drugged, picutres taken of her, and then reclothed? The reason I am thinking this is because of the bed at the church. I hope I don't offend any of my monkey friends. I am just trying to wrap my mind around the why this happened. Maybe too much drugs and didn't wake up...I believe others are involved.
Has anyone heard of a camera being found?
God bess little Sandra and her family. My heart is very heavy.
dana....anything is possible and nothing would surprise me anymore....
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Cookie,
I recall it as being reported that it was someone connected to farming activity that reported the suitcase. So I don't think it was MH.
Like everyone else, I just want to know WHY???????
Aren't most crimes related to either money or sex when you get right down to the bottom line?
But that's the question that is burning into my mind this morning. There had to be a reason. MH had something in mind with all this and I doubt it was just to kill a child for the sake of killing or thrill kill or whatever. And that "church" has creeped most everybody out from the start.
We were patient and got our arrest so we shall remain so and get our motive as well because LE/DA will have a theory as to why she did it and prehaps announce it very soon. They may be waiting for the community to lay this child to rest before any more major announcemnts and I can understand that as well. I am sure many are so upset they are to the breaking point with this and a brief healing period might help.
Just hope they won't keep us waiting too long. I want to know NOW!
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Anna, yes, I want to know NOW as well...if we had a reason,perhaps we could/would not have such a shell shock feeling? dunno...
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Re: Sandra Cantu, 8, missing 3/27/09 - Tracy, CA (Body Found) #2
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Quote from: cookie on April 12, 2009, 09:06:56 AM
Quote from: Blink34 on April 12, 2009, 09:01:51 AM
Morning Monkeys and Happy Easter.
I like Candice D, but I think she is overstepping to say at this point it does not appear to be sexually motivated.. I might agree on the actual murder itself, but no way do I buy this woman just murdered this baby. Keep in mind Im quite sure she died at the church (bed removal). Also the kidnapping charge- if Sandra went willingly with her, than to charge her with kidnapping would mean there is ill intent. What was that intent? IMO, that will yield future arrests.
What are kids spent time with this woman and Has LE spoken with them?
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morning blinkers!
ok, now that there is an arrest, does this coincide with the thoughts that you had on this case?
Yes, I thought that Candice was overstepping in a way as well...I mean, how does she know this? nothing has been disclosed yet as far as I know...
Yes, from an evidentiary perspective, or known info on the case it does.
H O W E V E R
No way is this just about Melissa Huckaby. There is much more going on, imo, with a pretty wide dragnet. I think she's refusing vistors because she knows there is no expectation of privacy in the Big House. What I would not give to see the peripheral subjects scrambling there right now. It would tell us all we would need to know.
Something else, I cant find anything negative on her Dad, Uncle, or Aunt. As they have a Church background, I do find it strange they have not appointed a spokesperson or issued a family statement to start the damage control, which is really PR 101.
Could be nothing, could be something.
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Danabar
- absolutely yes and IMO I would be very surprised if that doesn't turn out to be the case.
Happy Easter all!
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Good Morning All and Happy and Glorious Easter - HE IS RISEN!!
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HAPPY EASTER ALL!!!
Make no mistake about it, let no man, woman or politician tell you any differently … EASTER represents the greatest story of “HOPE & CHANGE” in history. There is a reason why some with an agenda want you to believe that religion is waning. They want to discourage the HOPE, true hope from above.
NEVER GIVE UP THE HOPE!!!
Never is hope more important than in missing persons cases and justice for victims.
I hope everyone has a joyous and Happy EASTER!!!
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Re: Sandra Cantu, 8, missing 3/27/09 - Tracy, CA (Body Found) #2
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To the poster running around hyperventiliating about information they think they might have in this case... And it is
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Most definately Frank Williams middle initial is an L.. NOT AN E
This is the kind of crap Sgt. Sheneman was referring to the other day about information not making any sense of false leads. It takes up his time and that of the TPD to run down when they could be working on credible information towards a full resolution to this case.
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Tell someone with experience what your info is and have them fact check it. If you still think it important, call the line listed for Crime stoppers and leave your tip which will be priortized. Do not call the PIO in an active murder case when a simple google could tell you that your wasting someone's time.
Sorry guys, Im sure everyone on here knows this, but I wanted to make sure it gets out appropriately.
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Last night one of the talking heads (IIRC on Geraldo) said that only 5 % of children who are killed are killed by a female. Now I'm not sure whether this person said UNRELATED to the victim or not. With such a small pool of cases it seems easy to figure out why the majority of these women are killing children. I'm not so sure that Mr. Shenehan is the brightest bulb on the tree as he said he has no clue, yet knows all the parameters of what took place in the question and answer session that led to the arrest of Melissa Huckaby.
All CRIMES have a motive. Recently there have been a series of crimes that the authorities have said that there appears to be no motive. Casey Anthony springs right to mind. My theory there was always Casey hated her mother more than she loved her daughter. Even the grandmother came out last month and said the same thing.
All crimes have a motive. Whether they be economic, shear pleasure, revenge, well, the list goes on and on. So I can assure you there is a motive here. Whether or not the authorities know it or will divulge it, I have no idea at this point, but there is a motive here. It could be as simple as jealousy. We have seen people killed for jealously quite often and it's a major motivating factor. Don't be surprised that a fully grown woman could be jealous of an 8 year old. It could happen.
In the movie American Psycho, Harvard educated Patrick Bateman, played by Christian Bale, kills an associate named Paul Allen due to shear jealous and due to the fact that Mr. Allen keeps confusing him with someone else, has a much nicer business card and landed an account that seem to have just been given to him with no merit.
Jealous is quite the motivating factor and often overlooked. Of course American Psycho is just a movie and not real life. It's just an example of seemingly normal people that can and will do anything to control their own jealousy. For those that have not seen the movie, I highly recommend it and you will probably even enjoy the dialogue, it's quite good. Casey Anthony had her own issues with jealousy.
Often looking for a complex motive leads to overlooking the obvious.
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Quote from: Blink34 on April 12, 2009, 09:01:51 AM
Morning Monkeys and Happy Easter.
I like Candice D, but I think she is overstepping to say at this point it does not appear to be sexually motivated.. I might agree on the actual murder itself, but no way do I buy this woman just murdered this baby. Keep in mind Im quite sure she died at the church (bed removal). Also the kidnapping charge- if Sandra went willingly with her, than to charge her with kidnapping would mean there is ill intent. What was that intent? IMO, that will yield future arrests.
What are kids spent time with this woman and Has LE spoken with them?
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Good Morning Everyone and Happy Easter. I'm with you on this, and I feel more arrests are going to happen. One question about the child that was drugged that you spoke about in your article, is it only a rumor that the child was Sandra that Melissa was questioned about with the drugging incident? Also is Melissa's child being questioned and checked out by doctor's, if not I sure hope they do and soon?
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Quote from: danabar on April 12, 2009, 09:27:30 AM
I hate to even write this. I have never seen kiddie porn before and I never want to. But, couldn't she have been drugged, picutres taken of her, and then reclothed? The reason I am thinking this is because of the bed at the church. I hope I don't offend any of my monkey friends. I am just trying to wrap my mind around the why this happened. Maybe too much drugs and didn't wake up...I believe others are involved.
Has anyone heard of a camera being found?
God bess little Sandra and her family. My heart is very heavy.
That is what I feel has been going on, and that is why I'm questioning where is Melissa's daughter, and has she been checked out by doctors.
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Good Morning All and Happy and Glorious Easter - HE IS RISEN!!
morning Rob...hope all is well with you and yours on this beautiful Easter day!
Happy Easter to all Monkeys today....
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Good Morning All and Happy and Glorious Easter - HE IS RISEN!!
morning Rob...hope all is well with you and yours on this beautiful Easter day!
Happy Easter to all Monkeys today....
Good Morning Cookie and Happy Easter to You and YOURS'!!
The Lord works in mysterious ways and I leave it all up to Him.
Follow His plan and go where He leads me.
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WELCOME JessStar your post was very informative. Yes, many crimes have been commited because of jealousy, but I'm really wondering and thinking what would a 28 year old woman be jealous of a 8 year old? I also thought that maybe Sandra said or did something to Melissa's child, that set Melissa off, or even that Sandra said something to Melissa that set her off. But I keep coming back to my original thoughts about child porn and a connection to that church.
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WELCOME JessStar your post was very informative. Yes, many crimes have been commited because of jealousy, but I'm really wondering and thinking what would a 28 year old woman be jealous of a 8 year old?
I also thought that maybe Sandra said or did something to Melissa's child,
that set Melissa off, or even that Sandra said something to Melissa that set her off. But I keep coming back to my original thoughts about child porn and a connection to that church.
Rosie, I thought about this as well...however, wouldn't Melissa's child have seen this ?
or was her daughter even home? so many questions....
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