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« Reply #720 on: April 17, 2016, 06:27:01 PM »




Justice for Natalee!

 


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"We won't give up on you, Natalee.  You didn't give up on us, and we will continue with the investigation until we have all of the answers to your disappearance.  God be with you my Natalee!" Dave Holloway ARUBA
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« Reply #721 on: April 17, 2016, 06:31:29 PM »

He makes me so sick.

 
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« Reply #722 on: April 17, 2016, 06:57:28 PM »

Video of John van den Huevel's show that aired Thursday night at the link.

 
https://www.facebook.com/336248473075444/videos/1174273209272962/

Crime scene

"Confession" Joran van der sloot draws 1,6 million viewers

The interest for joran van der sloot is still great. The interview that crime reporter John van den heuvel with a hidden camera with van der sloot made in the maximum-Security Prison, remote Thursday night in Peru has over 1,6 million viewers.

 

They translated Maximo Altez and used Dutch subtitles in part of his interview, so I typed some of them out and ran them through google translate.

Joran bevindt zich nu in een zwaar beveiligde gevangenis. En binnen die gevangenis zit hij geisoleerd.  Dat komt omdat hij problemen had met andere gedetineerden.  In Peru denkt men dat buitenlandse gevangenen veel geld hebben.  En bij Joran van der Sloot dachten ze dat zijn familie miljonair was.  De gevangenen in Challapalca zijn erg gehard en wilden geld van hem.  Maar Joran is iemand die van zich afbijt.  Hij is heel onverschrokken.  Hij vecht terug.  Hij laat niet met zich sollen.  Daarom raakte hij in gevecht en werd hij drie keer in z n rug gestoken.  We vroegen om overplaatsing.  Maar dat werd geweigerd en toen hebben ze hem geisoleerd.  In de gevangenis Challapalca is een speciale ruimte met andere gevangenen.  In deze ruimte bij de keuken zitten maar twee gevangenen.  Joran van der Sloot en 'n adere gevangene.  

Joran is now in a high security prison. And within that prison he's isolated. That's because he had problems with other inmates. In Peru, it is believed that foreign prisoners have lots of money. Ditch and they thought his family was a millionaire by Joran van der. The prisoners in Challapalca are very hardy and wanted money from him. But Joran is someone who stripper himself. He's very fearless. He fights back. He will not be pushed around. That's why he got in a fight and was stabbed three times in z n back. We asked for a transfer. But were refused and then they isolated him. In prison Challapalca is a special area with other prisoners. In this space in the kitchen are only two prisoners. Joran van der Sloot and one posted to another prisoner.

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Het is een heel zware reis.  Het is zes uur rijden met de auto.  De gevangenis bevindt zich 5500 meter boven de zeespiegel.  Daarom hebben we er problemen met ademhalen.  Het is een zwaar beveiligde gevangenis, dus de ingangscontrole is heel streng.  We zullen een heel andere man aantreffen.  Het is een heel ander persoon dan de man die jullie kennen.  Hij is veel volwassener geworden.  Hej heeft meer verantwoordelijkheden door z'n gezin.  Hij is veranderd.  Zijn persoonlijkheid is helemaal veranderd.  

It is a very difficult journey. It is six hours away by car. The prison is located 5500 meters above sea level. That's why we have trouble breathing. It is a high security prison, so the entry control is very strict. We will see a very different man. It's a completely different person than the man you know. He has become more mature. He has more responsibilities by his family. He has changed. His personality has changed completely.

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Joran is veroordeeld en moet de straf nu accepteren.  Hij is in hoger beroep gegaan en nu is 't afgelopen.  Vanwege de gevangenisstraf die Joran is opgelegd, 28 jaar...  Kan een derde van de straf kwijtgescholden worden.  Maar dat is een gunst, geen recht.  En de wet is heel streng voor mensen...  die veroordeeld zijn voor een misdaad als die van Joran.  Dan kennen ze die gunst niet toe.  Tegelijkertijd is de vader van het slachtoffer...  de heer Ricardo Flores, de vader van Stephany Flores...  tegen wie hij die misdaad heeft begaan...  iemand die in Peru veel invloed heeft.  Hij zal ervoor zorgen dat hem geen gunsten worden verleend.  Hij is ons grootste obstakel.  

Joran has been convicted and the punishment must accept now. He appealed and now it 's over. Due to the imprisonment Joran was imposed 28 years ... Can a third of the sentence be remitted. But that is a favor, not a right. And the law is very strict for people ... who have been convicted of a crime as that of Joran. They know that does not favor increasing. At the same time the father of the victim ... Mr Ricardo Flores, father of Stephany Flores ... against whom he committed this crime ... someone who has a lot of influence in Peru. He will ensure that he be granted any favors. He is our biggest obstacle.

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Hoe Joran en Leidy elkaar leerden kennen?  Ze leerden elkaar kennen toen Leidy een familielid bezocht.  Daarom hebben ze elkaar in de gevangenis ontmoet, in Castro Castro.  Het is een liefdevolle relatie.  Ze houden van elkaar en communiceren veel.  Leidy staat altijd voor Joran klaar, bijvoorbeeld als hij ziek is.  Ze helpt hem met wettelijke documenten.  Ze doet altijd alles om hem te helpen.  Ja, ongeveer een maand geleden kwam Leidy met haar op bezoek.  Voor Joran was dat heel emotioneel, volgens de gevangenismedewerkers.  Joran werd heel emotioneel toen hij zijn dochter zag.  Hij heeft z'n dochter gezien en is daar heel blij mee.

How Joran and Leidy met? They met when Leidy visited a relative. Therefore, they met in prison Castro Castro. It is a loving relationship. They love each other and communicate a lot. Leidy is always ready for Joran, for example, if he is sick. She helps him with legal documents. They always do anything to help him. Yeah, about a month ago Leidy came to visit her. For Joran was very emotional, according to the prison staff. Joran was very emotional when he saw his daughter. He saw his daughter and was very happy with that.






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« Reply #723 on: April 17, 2016, 07:00:43 PM »

Sounds to me like more special treatment for the inmate that the authorities determined stabbed himself for a transfer?  If it's really in the kitchen area, the monster is probably staying warm too!

 
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« Reply #724 on: May 03, 2016, 06:51:55 PM »

http://www.iowastatedaily.com/news/article_1e2a177e-0d69-11e6-8528-c3e53927e56d.html

Curtain opens for student's original musical "Holloway"
By Keaton Lane, keaton.lane@iowastatedaily.com  Updated Apr 28, 2016   0

The curtain is rising on a new, original musical written by an Iowa State student.

“Holloway” is a new musical written and composed by Joseph Smith, senior in performing arts. The show follows the 2005 disappearance of Alabama teen Natalee Holloway while on a school trip to Aruba and the effect that her disappearance had on her friends and family.

“Back in high school I was aware of the case and of her disappearance, and I was always intrigued and wasn’t quite sure why,” Smith said. “I thought of the case again two years ago. After writing the first song I realized I needed to write this, because I had a voice and a story that I wanted to share, and I had something to give back to the world.”

Smith received a grant through the Focus: Artist Grant Program, which gave him the resources necessary to produce a stage reading of the musical. The reading involves Iowa State students as well as actors from the Ames and Des Moines area.

 
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"We won't give up on you, Natalee.  You didn't give up on us, and we will continue with the investigation until we have all of the answers to your disappearance.  God be with you my Natalee!" Dave Holloway ARUBA
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« Reply #725 on: May 05, 2016, 03:44:39 PM »

http://www.iowastatedaily.com/news/article_1e2a177e-0d69-11e6-8528-c3e53927e56d.html

Curtain opens for student's original musical "Holloway"
By Keaton Lane, keaton.lane@iowastatedaily.com  Updated Apr 28, 2016   0

The curtain is rising on a new, original musical written by an Iowa State student.

“Holloway” is a new musical written and composed by Joseph Smith, senior in performing arts. The show follows the 2005 disappearance of Alabama teen Natalee Holloway while on a school trip to Aruba and the effect that her disappearance had on her friends and family.

“Back in high school I was aware of the case and of her disappearance, and I was always intrigued and wasn’t quite sure why,” Smith said. “I thought of the case again two years ago. After writing the first song I realized I needed to write this, because I had a voice and a story that I wanted to share, and I had something to give back to the world.”

Smith received a grant through the Focus: Artist Grant Program, which gave him the resources necessary to produce a stage reading of the musical. The reading involves Iowa State students as well as actors from the Ames and Des Moines area.

 

As bizarre as this sounds, anything that keeps her name in the world is important lest anyone forget.
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« Reply #727 on: June 22, 2016, 07:19:02 PM »

http://www.reuters.com/article/venezuela-aruba-refinery-idUSL1N19E18K

Markets | Wed Jun 22, 2016 2:34pm EDT Related: STOCKS, MARKETS, ENERGY

Venezuela PDVSA unit eyes up to $600 mln to overhaul Aruba refinery

CARACAS, JUNE 22 | BY ALEXANDRA ULMER

Citgo Petroleum, the U.S. unit of Venezuela's PDVSA, will likely invest about $400 million to $600 million to overhaul Aruba's refinery under a 25-year lease with the Caribbean island's government, a top PDVSA official said on Wednesday.

Citgo earlier this month signed the agreement to reactivate the 235,000-barrel-per-day refinery, which would help process the South American's oil producer's extra-heavy crude.

The previous operator, Valero Energy Corp, idled the refinery in 2012 because of its low profit.

"We're eyeing investments in the refinery that would be more or less between $400 (million) and $600 million," Jesus Luongo, vice president of refining, trade and supply, said in an interview on the sidelines of an oil workers' rally in support of the leftist government of Nicolas Maduro.

PDVSA President Eulogio Del Pino told Reuters earlier this month that Citgo was raising money from international banks to fund the project.

Luongo declined to say how much Citgo was seeking.

PDVSA's finances have declined with the slump in oil prices, but Citgo enjoyed some relief last year from higher refining margins.

The Aruba complex could be up and running again within 1-1/2 to two years, Citgo has said.

Venezuela is also mulling building a gas pipeline from the Paraguana peninsula northward to the Aruba refinery, Luongo added.

 
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"We won't give up on you, Natalee.  You didn't give up on us, and we will continue with the investigation until we have all of the answers to your disappearance.  God be with you my Natalee!" Dave Holloway ARUBA
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http://www.reuters.com/article/venezuela-aruba-refinery-idUSL1N19E18K

Markets | Wed Jun 22, 2016 2:34pm EDT Related: STOCKS, MARKETS, ENERGY

Venezuela PDVSA unit eyes up to $600 mln to overhaul Aruba refinery

CARACAS, JUNE 22 | BY ALEXANDRA ULMER

Citgo Petroleum, the U.S. unit of Venezuela's PDVSA, will likely invest about $400 million to $600 million to overhaul Aruba's refinery under a 25-year lease with the Caribbean island's government, a top PDVSA official said on Wednesday.

Citgo earlier this month signed the agreement to reactivate the 235,000-barrel-per-day refinery, which would help process the South American's oil producer's extra-heavy crude.

The previous operator, Valero Energy Corp, idled the refinery in 2012 because of its low profit.

"We're eyeing investments in the refinery that would be more or less between $400 (million) and $600 million," Jesus Luongo, vice president of refining, trade and supply, said in an interview on the sidelines of an oil workers' rally in support of the leftist government of Nicolas Maduro.

PDVSA President Eulogio Del Pino told Reuters earlier this month that Citgo was raising money from international banks to fund the project.

Luongo declined to say how much Citgo was seeking.

PDVSA's finances have declined with the slump in oil prices, but Citgo enjoyed some relief last year from higher refining margins.

The Aruba complex could be up and running again within 1-1/2 to two years, Citgo has said.

Venezuela is also mulling building a gas pipeline from the Paraguana peninsula northward to the Aruba refinery, Luongo added.

 

So will they hire Arubans to work at the refinery or Venezuelans?  Not that I really care 
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« Reply #729 on: June 23, 2016, 06:56:40 AM »

http://www.reuters.com/article/venezuela-aruba-refinery-idUSL1N19E18K

Markets | Wed Jun 22, 2016 2:34pm EDT Related: STOCKS, MARKETS, ENERGY

Venezuela PDVSA unit eyes up to $600 mln to overhaul Aruba refinery

CARACAS, JUNE 22 | BY ALEXANDRA ULMER

Citgo Petroleum, the U.S. unit of Venezuela's PDVSA, will likely invest about $400 million to $600 million to overhaul Aruba's refinery under a 25-year lease with the Caribbean island's government, a top PDVSA official said on Wednesday.

Citgo earlier this month signed the agreement to reactivate the 235,000-barrel-per-day refinery, which would help process the South American's oil producer's extra-heavy crude.

The previous operator, Valero Energy Corp, idled the refinery in 2012 because of its low profit.

"We're eyeing investments in the refinery that would be more or less between $400 (million) and $600 million," Jesus Luongo, vice president of refining, trade and supply, said in an interview on the sidelines of an oil workers' rally in support of the leftist government of Nicolas Maduro.

PDVSA President Eulogio Del Pino told Reuters earlier this month that Citgo was raising money from international banks to fund the project.

Luongo declined to say how much Citgo was seeking.

PDVSA's finances have declined with the slump in oil prices, but Citgo enjoyed some relief last year from higher refining margins.

The Aruba complex could be up and running again within 1-1/2 to two years, Citgo has said.

Venezuela is also mulling building a gas pipeline from the Paraguana peninsula northward to the Aruba refinery, Luongo added.

 

So will they hire Arubans to work at the refinery or Venezuelans?  Not that I really care 

When I read it, I was imagining a much larger influx of Venezuelans to the island.  Considering what I recall from posting in the murder/crime thread for years, that can't be a good thing imo.  But I don't really care either.
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« Reply #730 on: June 23, 2016, 08:04:29 AM »

Yep that's what I was thinking too.  Can't be a good thing for tourism 
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« Reply #731 on: June 26, 2016, 01:13:05 PM »

Oh boy...got my blood boiling this morning reading this. 

Have to wonder how much Bobby Brown really knows about this guy. 

Seriously...do your research!

JMO

 


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"We won't give up on you, Natalee.  You didn't give up on us, and we will continue with the investigation until we have all of the answers to your disappearance.  God be with you my Natalee!" Dave Holloway ARUBA
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