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Author Topic: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #869 3/20/2015 -  (Read 751258 times)
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« Reply #1720 on: December 25, 2018, 11:09:07 AM »

Merry Christmas - Blast from the past!  



Merry Christmas, everyone!   
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #1721 on: December 25, 2018, 11:12:39 AM »



Rob Smith wedding photo.

Fixed it for you!   

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10156920242234861&set=pcb.10156920242314861
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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« Reply #1722 on: December 25, 2018, 11:18:58 AM »

Shoot, I don't remember how to upload a photo.
Well, Rob Smith and his wife are celebrating their marriage. I forget how long they've been married, but it's substantial.

Hi everyone

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On FB right click and copy image address to paste here - highlight and click on insert image icon.
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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« Reply #1723 on: December 30, 2018, 12:36:48 PM »

Three clips from an interview with Dave from October. 
(Irritates me that they are still implying that they found human remains in Aruba.    )
Probably irritates the Aruban authorities too, since they were more than likely telling the truth for once.  How ironic is that?!!!   Monkey Devil!

https://www.doctoroz.com/episode/oz-exclusive-truth-about-aaron-aaron-hernandez-s-brother-speaks-out?video_id=5854937498001

What Dave Holloway Believes Happened to His Daughter

Originally aired on 10/30/2018

Dave Holloway gives insight into what he thinks happened to his daughter Natalee. He emphasizes how the drug world in Aruba could’ve played a part in the murder mystery. Plus, he shares about his many visits to Aruba to search for Natalee's remains.

GUESTS: Jonathan Hernandez , Dr. Charles Bernick , Dave Holloway , T.J. Ward

Telling... 

from end of the third clip

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Dr. Oz:  What does Beth not understand about your intentions with the search for Natalee's remains?

Dave Holloway:  You know, I have no idea, I've not talked to her about it other than the fact we had a discussion when dna was needed and we spoke for quite some time about that and she was very willing to give that to finally hopefully get closure.

Dr. Oz apparently did a show with Dave and TJ too, but I haven't found a recording of it anywhere yet.
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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« Reply #1724 on: December 30, 2018, 01:24:48 PM »

https://www.crimesite.nl/van-der-sloot-hoopt-op-nederlandse-cel/

Google translation:

Van der Sloot hopes for Dutch cell

PUBLISHED ON SATURDAY DECEMBER 1, 2018 08:59

Peru has rejected a request from Joran van der Sloot to be able to serve his sentence due to qualified manslaughter on a Peruvian girl in the Netherlands. He has not yet paid a fine of about 50,000 euros, writes De Telegraaf.

Second chance
Van der Sloot now collects money for that fine and hopes for a second chance. If the fine was paid, he would be eligible for the return scheme.

According to De Telegraaf, he recently transferred from the very isolated and elevated Challapalca prison to the somewhat lower Juliaca. That place is also in the south of Peru, there is also a cold mountain climate. The prison is overpopulated. According to De Telegraaf, Van der Sloot has to share his cell with fourteen others, while the cell is meant for six people.

28 years
Van der Sloot has a sentence of 28 years because of the manslaughter on Stephany Flores. He made a request through the Dutch embassy in the context of a WOTS scheme (Transfer of Execution of Penal Sentences Act). Van der Sloot would receive a sentence converted to Dutch law of a maximum of 18 years. He would then also be able to use the conditional release scheme, which would shorten his sentence by a few years. He has been in Los Angeles for 8.5 years since the murder of Flores in May 2010.

Incidentally, there is another investigation into money laundering by Van der Sloot's wife. If he himself was suspected or convicted in that case, he can not claim a WOTS decision for the time being.

A criminal prosecution wanted by the United States for facts in the case of the girl who disappeared in Aruba, Natalee Holloway, is separate from the WOTS regulation. The US can request its extradition both in the Netherlands and in Peru.
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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« Reply #1725 on: December 30, 2018, 01:50:03 PM »




Justice for Natalee!

 
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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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« Reply #1726 on: December 30, 2018, 07:26:23 PM »


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« Reply #1727 on: December 30, 2018, 07:28:36 PM »

https://www.crimesite.nl/van-der-sloot-hoopt-op-nederlandse-cel/

Google translation:

Van der Sloot hopes for Dutch cell

PUBLISHED ON SATURDAY DECEMBER 1, 2018 08:59

Peru has rejected a request from Joran van der Sloot to be able to serve his sentence due to qualified manslaughter on a Peruvian girl in the Netherlands. He has not yet paid a fine of about 50,000 euros, writes De Telegraaf.

Second chance
Van der Sloot now collects money for that fine and hopes for a second chance. If the fine was paid, he would be eligible for the return scheme.

According to De Telegraaf, he recently transferred from the very isolated and elevated Challapalca prison to the somewhat lower Juliaca. That place is also in the south of Peru, there is also a cold mountain climate. The prison is overpopulated. According to De Telegraaf, Van der Sloot has to share his cell with fourteen others, while the cell is meant for six people.

28 years
Van der Sloot has a sentence of 28 years because of the manslaughter on Stephany Flores. He made a request through the Dutch embassy in the context of a WOTS scheme (Transfer of Execution of Penal Sentences Act). Van der Sloot would receive a sentence converted to Dutch law of a maximum of 18 years. He would then also be able to use the conditional release scheme, which would shorten his sentence by a few years. He has been in Los Angeles for 8.5 years since the murder of Flores in May 2010.

Incidentally, there is another investigation into money laundering by Van der Sloot's wife. If he himself was suspected or convicted in that case, he can not claim a WOTS decision for the time being.

A criminal prosecution wanted by the United States for facts in the case of the girl who disappeared in Aruba, Natalee Holloway, is separate from the WOTS regulation. The US can request its extradition both in the Netherlands and in Peru.

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« Reply #1728 on: December 30, 2018, 07:29:41 PM »

Merry Christmas - Blast from the past!  



Merry Christmas, everyone!   

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« Reply #1729 on: January 01, 2019, 11:16:49 AM »

https://www.telegraaf.nl/nieuws/2748322/joran-van-der-sloot-verdacht-in-witwaszaak

Google translation:

Dutchman again under heavy fire in Peru

Joran van der Sloot suspected in money laundering case

By JOHN VAN DEN HEUVEL

01 Nov. 2018 in the Netherlands


LIMA - Joran van der Sloot is under attack from justice in Peru. The murderer of Peruvian woman Stephany Flores, condemned to 28 years in prison, is suspect in a new criminal investigation into money laundering. Van der Sloot, along with his girlfriend Leidy, would have squeezed three and a half tons of criminal money.

Van der Sloot received that amount from the suspicion thanks to a Dutch henchman, who lit online casinos with an ingenious system. According to justice in Peru, Joran's girlfriend and mother of his child, Leidy Figueroa, mainly profits from criminal profits.

The woman, who comes from a poor neighborhood in Lima, now lives in a spacious apartment in a luxury district of the Peruvian capital. Joran van der Sloot, who is also still suspected of the disappearance of Natalee Holloway in 2005, denies everything.
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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« Reply #1730 on: January 01, 2019, 11:18:47 AM »

https://www.telegraaf.nl/nieuws/2748224/joran-van-der-sloot-zit-nog-zwaarder-in-de-nesten

Google translation:

Peruvian justice accuses Van der Sloot and friend of money laundering

Joran van der Sloot is still heavier in the nests

By JOHN VAN DEN HEUVEL

01 Nov. 2018 in the Netherlands

Joran van der Sloot, who is serving 28 years in prison for murder in Peru, has again worked hard in the nests. Justice in the Peruvian capital Lima accuses him and his girlfriend Leidy of having laundered $ 350,000 and wants to prosecute the couple.

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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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« Reply #1731 on: January 09, 2019, 06:54:41 AM »

https://www.courthousenews.com/oxygen-media-cant-duck-lawsuit-from-natalee-holloway-family/

Oxygen Media Can’t Duck Lawsuit From Natalee Holloway Family


DANIEL JACKSON  January 8, 2019

BIRMINGHAM, Ala. (CN) – A federal judge denied a motion by Oxygen Media and Brian Graden Media to dismiss a suit alleging they intentionally inflicted emotional distress upon Natalee Holloway’s mother and committed fraud when they acquired her DNA during their six-part series investigating her daughter’s disappearance in Aruba.

On Monday, Chief U.S. District Judge Karon Bowdre denied the motion to dismiss brought by the companies that produced “The Disappearance of Natalee Holloway.” In a 26-page memorandum opinion, Bowdre said Natalee’s mother, Beth Holloway, “sufficiently alleged facts” that make her tort of outrage complaint plausible.

In the opinion, Bowdre wrote it was plausible Oxygen and Brian Graden Media acted with actual malice and thus their series and the articles they published are not protected by the First Amendment, even though Beth Holloway is a public figure.

“Suffering offense from truly insulting conduct is sometimes an unfortunate fact of life, so the law understandably hesitates to impose money damages for causing emotional distress in the minds of others,” Bowdre wrote. “But, in very limited circumstances, the law recognizes extremely egregious conduct that no person should be expected to endure without some sort of civil justice. This case plausibly presents such outrageous conduct.”

In Holloway’s amended complaint filed July 2018, she asked the court to award her $20 million in compensatory damages and $30 million in punitive damages.

Natalee Holloway’s 2005 disappearance from a senior class trip to Aruba attracted international media attention.

According to Holloway’s original complaint which was filed February 2018 in the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of Alabama, “The Disappearance of Natalee Holloway” aired in 2017 and was billed as a true-crime documentary. However, Beth Holloway alleged the show was scripted and lied about details of Holloway’s disappearance.

According to Bowdre’s opinion, Holloway argued the show’s producers were told the bones that they acquired in Aruba were animal remains but told her they discovered human remains when they asked for a sample of her DNA.

In a statement to Courthouse News, Taylor Wilson, partner at Atlanta-based L. Lin Wood P.C. praised the “well-reasoned decision” that came down in favor of his firm’s client.

“As the years have gone by since Natalee’s 2005 disappearance,” Wilson said, “some members of the media have continued to ratchet up the sensationalism in their efforts to entertain while Beth has continued her struggle to cope. … [T]here are constitutional limits to the media’s right to entertain and what families must endure in these situations, and that that constitutional line was crossed here.”

Since the judge issued the opinion, both sides will begin increasing their discovery, according to Wilson.

Attorney Harlan Prater IV wrote in the motion to dismiss brought by Oxygen and Brian Graden Media that a 2011 Supreme Court case involving Westboro Baptist Church showed that the First Amendment is a defense against claims of intentional infliction of emotional distress.

“As an initial matter,” the motion to dismiss said, “there is no doubt that the Series and the Articles are core expressive speech about an issue of deep public concern: Natalee’s disappearance and possible murder. … Because the Series and the Articles addressed matters of public concern, they are presumptively shielded by the First Amendment against civil liability.”

Lead attorney for Oxygen and Brian Graden Media, John Thompson, Jr. of Birmingham-based firm Lightfoot Franklin & White did not immediately return a request for comment Tuesday afternoon.

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« Reply #1732 on: January 10, 2019, 04:46:14 PM »

Thanks Klaas!   

This is awesome news!  So thankful Beth's case is moving forward! 

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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #1733 on: January 10, 2019, 05:01:31 PM »

https://www.law.com/dailyreportonline/2019/01/09/lin-wood-notches-wins-for-families-of-jonbenet-ramsey-natalee-holloway

Lin Wood Goes to Bat for Families of JonBenét Ramsey, Natalee Holloway

Wood confidentially settled a $750 million defamation suit against CBS and secured a favorable order in Alabama in an ongoing case against Oxygen Media.
By R. Robin McDonald | January 09, 2019 at 03:57 PM

Atlanta libel lawyer L. Lin Wood said he notched a settlement against one television network and a preliminary win against another over TV specials featuring unsolved crimes—cases that he said should serve as a warning to other media companies.

In civil cases associated with two of the most sensational unsolved crime mysteries of the past two decades, Wood on Jan. 4 consummated a settlement agreement in a $750 million defamation case against CBS and on Jan. 7 secured a favorable ruling from an Alabama judge who refused to dismiss a fraud and outrage case against cable crime network Oxygen Media.

Wood confirmed that he reached a confidential settlement with CBS in a 2016 defamation case he filed on behalf of Burke Ramsey, the older brother of slain 6-year-old child beauty queen JonBenét Ramsey. In Alabama, Wood represents Beth Holloway, the mother of 19-year-old Natalee Holloway, who disappeared during a high school trip to Aruba in 2005 and whose body has never been found.

Wood filed the Ramsey and Holloway lawsuits after the networks revisited JonBenet’s slaying and Natalee Holloway’s disappearance in multipart television retrospectives intended to appeal to a growing audience for sensational crime stories.

“In an era of fake news, in continually deteriorating discussions of issues on social media and the Internet, these cases are vitally important to send a message to the public that there are lines you cannot cross without being held legally accountable,” Wood said.

Fraud and Outrage Claims

In the Alabama case, Chief Judge Karon Owen Bowdre of the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of Alabama denied Oxygen Media’s motion to dismiss Holloway’s fraud and outrage claims stemming from the cable network’s alleged ruse in securing her DNA in 2017 by leading her to believe her daughter’s missing body had finally been found. An outrage claim, while extremely limited, allows for the recovery of damages for emotional distress that was either intentional or reckless and so severe that no reasonable person could be expected to endure it.

“Even the most deeply wounding conduct rarely gives rise to civil liability for the tort of outrage,” Bowdre wrote in her order. “Suffering offense from truly insulting conduct is sometimes an unfortunate fact of life, so the law understandably hesitates to impose money damages for causing emotional distress in the minds of others. But, in very limited circumstances, the law recognizes extremely egregious conduct that no person should be expected to endure without some sort of civil justice. This case plausibly presents such outrageous conduct.”

“The First Amendment does not protect against a claim for outrage brought by a public figure if the publication contains a false statement of fact which was made with actual malice, i.e., with knowledge that the statement was false or with reckless disregard as to whether or not it was true,” Bowdre added. “Ms. Holloway has alleged facts showing that defendants plausibly acted with actual malice.”

Wood partner Taylor Wilson called Bowdre’s ruling “well-reasoned” and “a huge victory” for Holloway, adding Oxygen Media “crossed the line.”

“Media efforts to profit off the tragic disappearance of Natalee must end,” he said. “As the years have gone by since Natalee’s 2005 disappearance, some members of the media have continued to ratchet up the sensationalism in their efforts for ratings and money.”

Oxygen Media lawyers John Thompson of Birmingham, Alabama, firm Lightfoot Franklin & White, and Cameron Stracher of Westport, Connecticut, could not be reached for comment.

Wood said he sued on Holloway’s behalf after she was persuaded to supply a DNA sample, allegedly because a friend of a suspect in her daughter’s disappearance had produced bone fragments that were supposedly her daughter’s from an Aruba burial site. In reality, the fragments were from a boar’s head, according to the complaint. “They failed to disclose who had discovered the bones, that the Aruban authorities had declared the bones to be animal bones or that Beth’s DNA would be used on television,” Wood said.

“I don’t believe there is any mother of a missing child who ever gives up hope that her child will be found or, at least, her body will be discovered,” Wood said. “Every mother clings to the belief, however slim or however long, that her child will be found.” To “dangle the prospects in front of Natalee’s mother that they may have found Natalee’s body and then to solicit her DNA” constitutes “the type of outrageous, egregious conduct that civilized society cannot and should not tolerate,” Wood said.

 
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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« Reply #1734 on: January 20, 2019, 07:40:46 AM »

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/features/inside-a-making-a-murderer-lawsuit-hidden-dangers-true-crime-tv-1176395

Inside a 'Making a Murderer' Lawsuit and the Hidden Dangers of TV's True-Crime Craze
by Rebecca Keegan  January 17, 2019, 6:00am PST

 

There have been multiple lawsuits associated with NBCUniversal-owned Oxygen's battery of true-crime shows, including a case that an Alabama judge allowed to proceed this month over the 2017 miniseries The Disappearance of Natalee Holloway. Holloway vanished in 2005 while on a high school graduation trip to Aruba, and the six-part series includes the discovery of what supposedly were her remains. Holloway's mother, Beth, sued Oxygen and the show's producers for intentional infliction of emotional distress — she provided a DNA sample to an investigator for the testing of the bones, unaware that the sample would be part of a television series that followed her ex-husband's quest to solve Natalee's disappearance. Beth alleges that the producers knew all along the bones were from animal remains — a pig's head. (Oxygen declined to comment on ongoing litigation.)

"The folks doing these true-crime series need to adhere to the first word: true," says L. Lin Wood, the Atlanta attorney whose firm represented both the Ramseys and Beth Holloway. "If they want to suggest conclusions or make accusations, then they better damn well be sure they've got facts, not exaggerations."

 
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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« Reply #1735 on: January 20, 2019, 11:47:53 AM »

Hi Monkeys! I’m still, and always, checking in.
This post is from 3/11/2018. Should’ve heard more by now.

https://trome.pe/actualidad/policiales/joran-der-sloot-mujer-investigados-lavado-activos-video-102595?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=Organic&utm_campaign=joran-der-sloot-mujer-investigados

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Leidy Figueroa Uceda, wife of the Dutch Joran van der Sloot (31), sentenced to 28 years for the murder of Stephany Flores in 2010, could also end up in prison.

The reason is that the Office of the Money Laundering Prosecutor of Lima would request his arrest in the investigation for the crime of money laundering that he faces together with the father of his son, who is being held in the Challapalca prison in Tacna. Both are investigated for allegedly having laundered 350 thousand dollars.

It was learned that Figueroa Uceda has been summoned to testify before the Prosecutor's Office on several occasions, but apparently has not come.
The investigations of this case began after a chain of casinos denounced Joran van der Sloot and another Dutch citizen for fraud. According to this company, the murderer and his compatriot manipulated the games, earning large amounts of money.


BANK ACCOUNT

Part of those amounts would have been deposited to the account of Figueroa Uceda, who after marrying Joran proceeded to buy a luxurious apartment and two cars, the latter two sold for $ 17,000.

However, the aforementioned property does not appear registered in the National Superintendency of Public Records on behalf of the European's wife, but on behalf of a third person. Only the two vehicles registered with their identity.

THAT'S THE THING
- Joran van der Sloot met his victim, Stephany Flores, at a Miraflores casino in 2010. He then took her to a hotel, where he beat her to death and stole her belongings.

- They believe that he moved 350 thousand illegal dollars with his partner, who acquired a luxury apartment and two cars.
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