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Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #12
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April 27, 2009, 02:29:44 PM »
either we believe the "locals" on another forum board or we believe Art Harris about Ron being at work all night...I am confused ....I am not believing anything till it comes from the LE...jmo..
Ron may very well be the bad ass that everyone is so quick to believe, I don't know, I don't know any of these people...but I don't think that he would cover for Misty or anyone else if he thought that they had harmed Haleigh...I don't think that he was home that night, nor do I think that he harmed Haleigh....jmo....Now Misty, she knows something....What the heck is taking so long on this case? why haven't they leaned harder on Misty, since she was the last person to have seen Haleigh? Maybe she would crack if they took her in and questioned her more...it is so frustrating!
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Quote from: GramaMonkey on April 27, 2009, 02:19:48 PM
Quote from: Maven on April 27, 2009, 02:13:22 PM
Quote from: no rose colored glasses on April 27, 2009, 12:31:46 PM
I've been reading over yonder, pirate a local, who people seem to believe, has just said this. Don't be surprised if you hear today or in the next couple of days that Misty has lawyered up............... it appears that she has. One other thing, take it for what it is worth, another reliable person over there, has stated that Ron was not there at work the whole night, between 6-8 that evening, wasn't there, so who knows, just thought it was interesting.
but wait a minute......... I thought only guilty people need lawyers?
and Ron was not at work the whole time
If he was
really at work that means he's covering for Misty
, and I can't see him covering anyone's rear except his.
If he really was at work....then I think he is NOT COVERING FOR MISTY...ONLY FOR HIMSELF...and by saying he was at work the whole time....he can PUT THE BLAME ONTO MISTY.
True... very true.... I just think he knows more than he's telling, and I wonder, if he knew Misty did something to Haleigh would he tell? If he has nothing to do with it, and only found out after, I can't see him covering for Misty. I just have a feeling he knows what happened to Haleigh. The grandmothers praising Misty so much also raises red flags for me, then we have the wedding (which could have just been cause she's underage)
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Quote from: GramaMonkey on April 27, 2009, 02:23:15 PM
Quote from: Maven on April 27, 2009, 02:18:03 PM
Quote from: cookie on April 27, 2009, 10:08:21 AM
Quote from: Maven on April 27, 2009, 02:39:31 AM
"So far, Cummings has a solid alibi. Not only do co-workers like Zastrow tell police they recall him on property, even taking his dinner break in the cafeteria, but The Bald Truth has learned exclusively that Cummings cell phone pings came from cell towers by the steel plant, and that on the way home, he stopped by a convenience store to buy a few things. That would certainly seem to debunk one theory that he went to the trailer to check on Misty, then returned to work that night."
Sounds like he has a pretty solid alibi for the time Haleigh was said to have disappeared. Guess Ron really was at work
Then again police have said they don't know what the crime was or when it happened, but there ya go he was at work.
and Haleigh was definitely at school on Monday from the reports so she couldn't have disappeared before Monday night...she was also seen by neighbors and by great gramma Monday night by other reports from what I recall...
She was at school Monday that part is true, we have an official source outside the family confirm that. I don't buy GGM's story,
Misty was asked on Greta who was at the house and Misty said the AC man and her brother and his kids,
no mention of Sykes. Misty ran the list down a couple times with no mention of granny,
TN mentioned the visit like 8 days later.
Does anyone know what time the neighbor saw Haleigh outside playing?
Misty is NOT the sharpest TACK!!!!
She probably could NOT MEMORIZE MORE THAN THAT.
Well that's for sure .... what's the numerical ..... what's that? 4ft or 4 inches. I do think that even Misty could remember the list of folks that stopped by, it wasn't a huge list ..... or maybe it was a long list of visitors, and maybe GGM isn't the only one she left off.
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Quote from: no rose colored glasses on April 27, 2009, 02:02:57 PM
Quote from: maureen on April 27, 2009, 02:00:57 PM
Quote from: higherhopes on April 27, 2009, 12:52:08 PM
Hello Monkeys, I heard the same thing, Misty is gonna Lawyer up, the only reason for that is someone thinks soneon is getting close to something that is gonna get her in trouble, thats the only reason I can think of for her to get a lawyer right now,,,,,,,She wants to already have one when the sh!t hits the fan.........wonder who has talked!!!!!!
how about Prevatt and Brooks? they're probably talking...
Yes, I'm sure they are.
but how believable are they? druggies themselves....
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Quote from: cookie on April 27, 2009, 02:35:45 PM
Quote from: no rose colored glasses on April 27, 2009, 02:02:57 PM
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Quote from: higherhopes on April 27, 2009, 12:52:08 PM
Hello Monkeys, I heard the same thing, Misty is gonna Lawyer up, the only reason for that is someone thinks soneon is getting close to something that is gonna get her in trouble, thats the only reason I can think of for her to get a lawyer right now,,,,,,,She wants to already have one when the sh!t hits the fan.........wonder who has talked!!!!!!
how about Prevatt and Brooks? they're probably talking...
Yes, I'm sure they are.
but how believable are they? druggies themselves....
The problem is the whole lot of them are druggies, which would make sense why Ron didn't think anything of leaving his kids with a druggie.
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Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #12
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Quote from: cookie on April 27, 2009, 02:29:44 PM
either we believe the "locals" on another forum board or we believe Art Harris about Ron being at work all night...I am confused ....I am not believing anything till it comes from the LE...jmo..
Ron may very well be the bad ass that everyone is so quick to believe, I don't know, I don't know any of these people...but I don't think that he would cover for Misty or anyone else if he thought that they had harmed Haleigh...I don't think that he was home that night, nor do I think that he harmed Haleigh....jmo....Now Misty, she knows something....What the heck is taking so long on this case? why haven't they leaned harder on Misty, since she was the last person to have seen Haleigh? Maybe she would crack if they took her in and questioned her more...it is so frustrating!
It's hard to know who to believe in this case, LE ain't tellin, and some are tellin too much, and others are tellin lies! IA frustrating!!
I think Art also added a little teaser in this last article:
"Investigators say Misty has told several conflicting stories, but maintains she was at the trailer sleeping when Haleigh vanished. If police do find anyone credible who, for example, can put Misty somewhere other than the trailer, or Ronald Cummings off PDM property where he said he worked until the end of his shift, “then you’ll see some fireworks,” the investigator told me."
I think he may "find" someone who may have seen (or says so anyway) Ron/Misty not where they were supposed to be.
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Quote from: cookie on April 27, 2009, 02:35:45 PM
Quote from: no rose colored glasses on April 27, 2009, 02:02:57 PM
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Quote from: higherhopes on April 27, 2009, 12:52:08 PM
Hello Monkeys, I heard the same thing, Misty is gonna Lawyer up, the only reason for that is someone thinks soneon is getting close to something that is gonna get her in trouble, thats the only reason I can think of for her to get a lawyer right now,,,,,,,She wants to already have one when the sh!t hits the fan.........wonder who has talked!!!!!!
how about Prevatt and Brooks? they're probably talking...
Yes, I'm sure they are.
but how believable are they? druggies themselves....
That is a huge problem with this case, but I don't think Ron or Misty knew or hung out with many professor or doctor types.
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http://www.thesky973.com/pages/4014463.php
REPORTER'S NOTES 4/27/2009
11:30 AM
A bloody mess was reported early Monday at Haleigh Bug Headquarters.
A Putnam County Fire Rescue ambulance picked up an unknown subject who had been bleeding from the face at about 1a.m. Monday, April 27, 2009 at the Haleigh Bug Headquarters on South US 17 in Satsuma, FL, the agency confirmed this morning.
Due to HIPPA laws, the identity of the subject was not released.
The unidentified female subject was hospitalized after suffering an apparent seizure and receiving a facial injury in the subsequent fall causing a great deal of blood loss.
Witnesses tell WSKY that a hatchet was also found inside the Haleigh Bug building.
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There is more talking about Misty and Amber's past issues. What I wanna know is what's the deal with hatchets? Amber chased by a man holding one, one found at the Haeighbug building! WTH is going on down there?
I hope Crystal is OK.
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Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #12
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Quote from: Maven on April 27, 2009, 02:43:50 PM
Quote from: cookie on April 27, 2009, 02:35:45 PM
Quote from: no rose colored glasses on April 27, 2009, 02:02:57 PM
Quote from: maureen on April 27, 2009, 02:00:57 PM
Quote from: higherhopes on April 27, 2009, 12:52:08 PM
Hello Monkeys, I heard the same thing, Misty is gonna Lawyer up, the only reason for that is someone thinks soneon is getting close to something that is gonna get her in trouble, thats the only reason I can think of for her to get a lawyer right now,,,,,,,She wants to already have one when the sh!t hits the fan.........wonder who has talked!!!!!!
how about Prevatt and Brooks? they're probably talking...
Yes, I'm sure they are.
but how believable are they? druggies themselves....
That is a huge problem with this case, but I don't think Ron or Misty knew or hung out with many professor or doctor types.
Thats true, and someone somewhere saw or heard something that will be a better witness then these bunch of druggies, it has to come out soon, and I think it will,
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Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #12
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Quote from: Maven on April 27, 2009, 03:03:07 PM
http://www.thesky973.com/pages/4014463.php
REPORTER'S NOTES 4/27/2009
11:30 AM
A bloody mess was reported early Monday at Haleigh Bug Headquarters.
A Putnam County Fire Rescue ambulance picked up an unknown subject who had been bleeding from the face at about 1a.m. Monday, April 27, 2009 at the Haleigh Bug Headquarters on South US 17 in Satsuma, FL, the agency confirmed this morning.
Due to HIPPA laws, the identity of the subject was not released.
The unidentified female subject was hospitalized after suffering an apparent seizure and receiving a facial injury in the subsequent fall causing a great deal of blood loss.
Witnesses tell WSKY that a hatchet was also found inside the Haleigh Bug building.
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There is more talking about Misty and Amber's past issues. What I wanna know is what's the deal with hatchets? Amber chased by a man holding one, one found at the Haeighbug building! WTH is going on down there?
I hope Crystal is OK.
Can we check th local hospitals and see who may have been admitted ore treated at this time....Im trying to get in touch with Kim P but no luck so far!
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Quote from: higherhopes on April 27, 2009, 03:08:21 PM
Can we check th local hospitals and see who may have been admitted ore treated at this time....Im trying to get in touch with Kim P but no luck so far!
I hope you get in touch with her HH. I don't think the hospitals would release any kind of information like that. I really hope Crystal is OK.
I saw that post on AH about the person hearing on a scanner that an ambulance and LEO were requested over at the Haleighbug building last night/early this morning.
OH and correction to my post above... sorry Amber was chased by machete man, and it was a hatchet found in the Haleighbug building. Still the question is WTH is going on down there?
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Quote from: Maven on April 27, 2009, 03:18:06 PM
Quote from: higherhopes on April 27, 2009, 03:08:21 PM
Can we check th local hospitals and see who may have been admitted ore treated at this time....Im trying to get in touch with Kim P but no luck so far!
I hope you get in touch with her HH. I don't think the hospitals would release any kind of information like that. I really hope Crystal is OK.
I saw that post on AH about the person hearing on a scanner that an ambulance and LEO were requested over at the Haleighbug building last night/early this morning.
OH and correction to my post above... sorry Amber was chased by machete man, and it was a hatchet found in the Haleighbug building. Still the question is WTH is going on down there?
WTH is going on down there, I'm sure this person who suffered a seizure would have to be Crystal, since she suffers from them.
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JNGA posted this ...
here is a comment on
www.artharris.com
Ger Says:
April 27th, 2009 at 1:06 am
Unfortunately, it has come across my scanner that a 22 year old with a past history of seizures, calling from the HaleighBug Center was having a seizure at the time of the initial call for EMS, however the woman has ceased seizing, was conscious and alert with a bloody nose. Immediately following the call out for EMS, the HaleighBug center called again, requesting LEO… I’m waiting now as I type this at 1am, listening to my scanner…to possibly learn more as to why LEO was requested…
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Quote from: GramaMonkey on April 27, 2009, 03:36:50 PM
JNGA posted this ...
here is a comment on
www.artharris.com
Ger Says:
April 27th, 2009 at 1:06 am
Unfortunately, it has come across my scanner that a 22 year old with a past history of seizures, calling from the HaleighBug Center was having a seizure at the time of the initial call for EMS, however the woman has ceased seizing, was conscious and alert with a bloody nose. Immediately following the call out for EMS, the HaleighBug center called again, requesting LEO… I’m waiting now as I type this at 1am, listening to my scanner…to possibly learn more as to why LEO was requested…
Please let us know as soon as you do!
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Quote from: higherhopes on April 27, 2009, 03:43:33 PM
Quote from: GramaMonkey on April 27, 2009, 03:36:50 PM
JNGA posted this ...
here is a comment on
www.artharris.com
Ger Says:
April 27th, 2009 at 1:06 am
Unfortunately, it has come across my scanner that a 22 year old with a past history of seizures, calling from the HaleighBug Center was having a seizure at the time of the initial call for EMS, however the woman has ceased seizing, was conscious and alert with a bloody nose. Immediately following the call out for EMS, the HaleighBug center called again, requesting LEO… I’m waiting now as I type this at 1am, listening to my scanner…to possibly learn more as to why LEO was requested…
Please let us know as soon as you do!
HH ~ I just went to Art's site, to see if there was a follow up post to this. After about a 1/2 hr of waiting, the poster said that they did not have any further info to post on this.
But..while on Art's site, did find this posted:
Art Harris Says:
April 27th, 2009 at 9:06 am
Lisa: I quoted police sources on the carpool info, not an official report, and the parents at the busstop I interviewed who told the same thing to investigators. Have
Ronald and Momma come back to refute the eye witnesses who say they’re lying
that Misty was seen picking up Haleigh, not RC or TN, since I reported it? I don’t think so
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Quote from: GramaMonkey on April 27, 2009, 03:36:50 PM
JNGA posted this ...
here is a comment on
www.artharris.com
Ger Says:
April 27th, 2009 at 1:06 am
Unfortunately, it has come across my scanner that a 22 year old with a past history of seizures, calling from the HaleighBug Center was having a seizure at the time of the initial call for EMS, however the woman has ceased seizing, was conscious and alert with a bloody nose. Immediately following the call out for EMS, the HaleighBug center called again, requesting LEO… I’m waiting now as I type this at 1am, listening to my scanner…to possibly learn more as to why LEO was requested…
I saw that last night on his site, this morning I checked back in and that poster followed up by saying they heard nothing more that they could decipher about that incident. Guess we'll have to wait and see.
http://www.artharris.com/2009/04/24/haleigh-cummings-cnns-jane-velez-mitchell/#comments
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Just picked this up O/Y...
*BIRD*
Online Now!
Apr 27 2009 12:22 PM
I bet!!Im good jus waitn for my neice Haleigh to come home!!Yeah u already kno im down for that!!!lol..
Just one of a few comments left in the last few hours by Sara to her friend,if Crystal was attacked I don't think she'd be commenting on friends sites,everything seems good with her.
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Quote from: Monkey with Class on April 27, 2009, 09:10:49 AM
Just my opinion. During Misty's threee day bender. I think something happened to Haleigh then. Under Ron's care. When Misty came home after this 3 day'er, everything was already planned. This was all staged. The more I hear about these individuals the more likely this is the case. The whole marriage thing with Misty. This is what she wanted. She actually doesn not know what happened, which would clear her poly tests. Ron knows what happened I believe. He married Misty so, he would appease her. This is turn assures she goes along with the plan.
This is all my opinion. I think Ron was upset during Misty's 3 day bender and in one of his tantrums Haleigh was a victim. Just thoughts going through my head.
Alibis are all family members. Hmm...
The same thought came about sometime ago, but she is recorded being in school that Monday..
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Quote from: cookie on April 27, 2009, 02:29:44 PM
either we believe the "locals" on another forum board or we believe Art Harris about Ron being at work all night...I am confused ....I am not believing anything till it comes from the LE...jmo..
Ron may very well be the bad ass that everyone is so quick to believe, I don't know, I don't know any of these people...but I don't think that he would cover for Misty or anyone else if he thought that they had harmed Haleigh...I don't think that he was home that night, nor do I think that he harmed Haleigh....jmo....Now Misty, she knows something....What the heck is taking so long on this case? why haven't they leaned harder on Misty, since she was the last person to have seen Haleigh? Maybe she would crack if they took her in and questioned her more...it is so frustrating!
Pirate over yonder does not like Ronald. She reminds me a lot of Anflorida and they conspired a lot against Ronald. I would not take her word just because she is a local.
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For rent: 202 Green Ln, Satsuma, Fl
http://satsuma.fl.house.info/234688-house-rent
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=> Dashad Sage Smith missing since 11/20/12 Charlottesville, VA
=> Cassandra Morton 23, Lynchburg, missing 10/10/09 body found 11/29/09
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High Profile Crimes and Trials (not missing persons)
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=> Jodi Arias trial - for the murder of Travis Alexander
=> Trial of George Zimmerman - 2nd Degree Murder of 17yr old Trayvon Martin
=> Scott Peterson Appeal of Murder Conviction
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Missing, Exploited and True Crime
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=> Missing Exploited and True Crime
===> Missing Persons Forum
=====> Missing Found or Presumed Deceased
=====> Missing Found Safe
=====> Missing Endangered Runaways
=====> Resourses, Search Groups and Fundraisers
===> Crimes Against Children, Elderly and the Disabled
===> Crimes of Passion/Anger
===> Serial Killers and Their Possible Victims
===> Unsolved Crimes
=====> Finally Solved
===> Haleigh Marie Cummings - Florida
===> Adji Desir - Florida
===> Somer Renee Thompson 7 yo, Orange Park FL 10/19/09(BODY FOUND)
===> Tracy Ocasio - Orlando/Ocoee, Florida
===> Shaniya Nicole Davis, 5 Fayetteville, NC Missing 11/10/09(BODY FOUND)
===> Holly Bobo, 20yrs old missing Parsons, TN 4/13/11
===> Hailey Dunn - 13yrs old - Colorado City, TX missing 12/27/10 (Body Found)
===> Elizabeth Olten - 9yrs, Jefferson City, MO missing 10/21/09 (BODY FOUND)
===> Lindsey Baum - McCleary, WA 6/26/09
===> Amber Leeanne Dubois 14yrs old - Escondido, CA(BODY FOUND)
===> Chelsea King, 17, Missing 2-25-2010 Rancho Bernadino CA (BODY FOUND)
===> Sandra Cantu, 8 years old - Tracy, CA(BODY FOUND)
===> Madeleine McCann - Portugal
===> Christine Marie Sheddy - missing since 11/13/2007 - Maryland(BODY FOUND)
===> Nevaeh Amyah Buchanan 5yr Monroe Michigan(BODY FOUND)
===> Gabriel Johnson 8 mo., last seen 12/26/09 Tempe AZ-San Antonio TX
===> Stacy Ann Peterson missing & Kathleen Savio murdered - Illinois
===> Zahra Clare Baker - 10yrs old Hickory, NC (Body Found)
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Natalee Holloway
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=> Natalee Holloway
=> Important Case Documents
===> Joran Statements/PV's
===> Paulus Statements/PV's
===> Deepak Statements/PV's
===> Satish Statements/PV's
===> Misc Statements/PV's
=> LCD Archive
=> Shango/Simian and other Codetalkers
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Current Events and Musings
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=> Monkey Musings / Open Discussion
=> Pop Culture Main
===> Hugely Popular TV Shows
===> Movies and Television
===> Social Media
===> Music
===> Books
===> Scared Monkeys Radio with Dana Pretzer
=> Health and Medical Issues
=> Food and Product Recalls
=> News of the Day
=> Business News
=> Sports
=> Political Forum
=> Religion (discussion and debate)
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The Monkey Lounge
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=> The Monkey Lounge
===> Fashion & Decorating
===> What's Cooking? Recipes
===> Games
=> Inspirational
===> Memorial - Gone but Never Forgotten
===> Gratefulness - Light a Candle in Prayer
===> Inspirational scriptures, songs, stories and prayers
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Natalee Discussions (2005 ARCHIVE)
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=> Natalee Holloway
=> Theory and Speculation
=> Links and References Only
=> Natalee Breaking News Archive
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General Discussions (2005 ARCHIVE)
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=> News Issues
=> Chit Chat
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