Sandra Cantu #3 4/15/09 -4/27/09

[Blink34]

Stacy well said, excellent

[cece]

I hope I'm not being rude by just jumping in here, but since I'm new, maybe you forgive me.

I was looking for any information on the replacement Judge Linda Lofthus & found an interesting article from a death penalty case of last year that she presided over.  It gave me some insight into what we may expect from her in this case.  I will just post the link for those that are interested.  (That is if I can this right  )

http://www.recordnet.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080524/A_NEWS/805240318

I think this is a great post cece. Very interesting that she used a less often used method that could have made her very unpopular and Testa applauded her in the end. The more honest and fqir the judge the less likely the ruling will be over turned later on, I hope. I certainly hope we get a speedy resolution here however I would be willing to hang in there no matter how long it takes if it is done right the first time.

Thank you K9ohana.  You are very kind.  I agree, we may be here a long time with this one, but we can only hope in the end it means justice for Sandra.

Welcome Cece, and thank you very much for that info, great first post!
Blink

Thank you Blink.  I am very honored to be here & have had a great appreciation for insight & information that is brought to this forum.  I feel like I know many of you from reading your posts in the past, but I know it will take time for you to come to know me.  I just hope I can live up to the high standards of posts that I have encountered here.

[Stacey]

Thank you No Rose and Blink

Monkey hugs

[Anna]

Certainly the first child who was drugged should have been better investigated and I am sure TPD would be the first to say so.  And do we know for a fact that Childrens Services were NOT contacted?  I think any kind of abuse must be reported not only by LE but all medical personnel as well.  So this may have been.

And be all of that as it may, I still doubt if the choice had been mine to make that I would have thought female sexual predator.  I very likely would have thought accidental and from the home.

Now I wouldn't.  But at the time it happened, there was not much to point in the right direction.

But I do think every incidence of child abuse including drugging is required by law to be reported.  I would certainly hope the medical personnel at the hospital did so.

The Foster Care system in so many states is such a nightmare in and  of itself that I think it also causes hesitation to take a child from their home except in the most dire of circumstances.

The entire system is fraught with flaws and shortcomings.  But it's the only one we have in place right now and the one we will have to work with on this.

[Blink34]

Serenity-

Respectfully, I find your posts all over the page. What I mean is, you suggest the fact that Sandra's physical evidence of rape is not "proof" to you until a jury says so. Then you state you think MH took the other young child to the park to murder her. Then you speculate the Mother of said child was drunk and slurring her words?

It seems to me that if something does not support your personal bias, you discount it. But you offer utter speculation and fact-less scenarios to back up yours. I do not understand that way of thinking unless you are attempting to prove out your "impressions." Which again, I say respectfully, are anything but based on fact.

Lastly, I have personally worked with psychics, and have many colleagues that have/do as well. I will tell you anyone in the Legal or Law Enforcement Community that says anything other than there may be about 5 in the world, that have proven track records and have contributed successfully and without interpretation to missing person's cases is lying.

Please do not think I am speaking of you specifically, I dont know you, I am speaking from my personal experience. I have worked with complete frauds, and I have worked with one of the best.  

[JessStar]

Hello Monkeys

See no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil what this means to me

See no evil, looks the other way when our children are being harmed because they just can't wrap their mind around this kind of evil. To afraid of what they might see

Hear no evil, doesn't want to hear about all the children that are harmed so they can pretend it doesn't happen.  To afraid of what they might hear

Speak no evil, lets just brush this under the rug if it's never spoken then it never will happen to the children. To afraid to have a voice

It's just to much for some to endure but our children endure it every day, hour, minute and second. If they can endure it then we should be able to stand up and shout it from every roof top.

We should see the evil eye to eye and stand firm
We should hear the evil of what our children are telling us
We should speak the evil because the monster's are hoping we keep our mouths shut

I don't post much but my heart is hurting for our children.

Monkey hugs

Fantastic post, Stacey.  This should be memorialized somewhere on this site, JMHO.

[Kat_Gram]

I spoke of a case here that I have first have knowledge of where a paid babysitter returned the kiddo ( 1.5 yrs ) with what looked like an adult bite mark on the arm.
When asked, babysitter said : I know nothing about it.
CFS was called. They called the police. report made, pictures taken. Pictures submitted to CFS doctor who said adult bite mark.
Charges ( assault ) laid.
Everything goes to the Crown.
Babysitter hires lawyer.
Legal wrangling goes on behind the scenes, before court.
Charges dropped, weak case. The only witness who could speak was three.
But before all this happens, the babysitter was placed on the child abuse registry. She is no longer running her little daycare out of her house.
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The police in Tracy acted as if they were the DA and circumvented all the SOP that would usually take place. Why ? They viewed the Sunday School teacher vs a mother who had problems and made a decision as to the credibility of each, plus they had no way to know how the drugs got into the system of the seven year old. If MH gave her a pill, a seven year old would say so. If it was pulverized and given in a sweet drink, she wouldn't know.
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From Blink's article, it appears as if Connie Lawless was aware that there was some problem that day.   

[no rose colored glasses]

I spoke of a case here that I have first have knowledge of where a paid babysitter returned the kiddo ( 1.5 yrs ) with what looked like an adult bite mark on the arm.
When asked, babysitter said : I know nothing about it.
CFS was called. They called the police. report made, pictures taken. Pictures submitted to CFS doctor who said adult bite mark.
Charges ( assault ) laid.
Everything goes to the Crown.
Babysitter hires lawyer.
Legal wrangling goes on behind the scenes, before court.
Charges dropped, weak case. The only witness who could speak was three.
But before all this happens, the babysitter was placed on the child abuse registry. She is no longer running her little daycare out of her house.
...........
The police in Tracy acted as if they were the DA and circumvented all the SOP that would usually take place. Why ? They viewed the Sunday School teacher vs a mother who had problems and made a decision as to the credibility of each, plus they had no way to know how the drugs got into the system of the seven year old. If MH gave her a pill, a seven year old would say so. If it was pulverized and given in a sweet drink, she wouldn't know.
..........
From Blink's article, it appears as if Connie Lawless was aware that there was some problem that day.   

Yes, and I think Connie knew there were other problems with Melissa way before that incident. She must have pulverized the pill or pills and put it in something sweet, the child would have tasted the bitterness. I sure hope more info comes out on this, there are pieces missing from this incident.

[Stacey]

Thank you Jess

Monkey hugs

[cookie]

JVM talking about Sandra and MH now...

[cookie]

 defense withdrawing request for second autopsy!

[k9ohana]

defense withdrawing request for second autopsy!

That is FANTASTIC news!

[no rose colored glasses]

defense withdrawing request for second autopsy!

That is FANTASTIC news!

Great

[cece]

defense withdrawing request for second autopsy!

I missed it 

Did they say why?

[Deenie]

defense withdrawing request for second autopsy!

Justice for Sandra ~
The baby has been through enough ..

[cece]

I did see a clip of Cyril Wecht saying there should have been some sort of investigation into why the other child had muscle relaxants in her system.

[Deenie]

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[cece]

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Thank you Deenie, that answers my question.  I guess the gag order means we won't be getting much info.  

[k9ohana]

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[Anna]

Oh, no!  The gag order.