Sandra Cantu #3 4/15/09 -4/27/09

[Gypsy DD]

From the 24th:



Melissa Huckaby's Arraignment Delayed Again in Sandra Cantu Case
Created by Brian Shields on 4/24/2009 8:54:20 PM


STOCKTON (KRON) -- Melissa Huckaby will return to a Stockton courtroom on Friday, May 22nd to possibly enter a plea to murder, kidnapping, and rape charges in connection with the death of Sandra Cantu.

KRON 4's Dan Kerman says the former Sunday School teacher wore a red jumpsuit and smiled at her attorney during Friday's short proceedings.

The San Joaquin County Public Defender's office is asking for further arraignment at a later date.  He's asking for more information from prosecutors about the evidence in the case.

Prosecutors say they've already turned over 500 pages of documents and video tapes as part of the discovery process.  They say it will take three-to-four weeks to release the rest of the information to the defense. Inside
Superior Court Judge Linda Lofthus ruled that the results of the autopsy and other medical tests in the case will remain under seal.  She said there's a danger of public outrage if the scientific data were to be made public.  The judge says releasing the information would also be harmful to the Cantu family's privacy rights.  The defense is also formally withdrawing an earlier request for a second autopsy on Sandra's remains.

Dan says Huckaby showed no emotion during the proceedings.  There was also no visible or audible reaction from any of the family members of the victim or defendant in the courtroom.

A gag order in the case remains in place. 

Thank you for this article.  It seems there is compelling evidence..and I would venture to say.. that others are involved.  Docs and video's mean more info has been found that we aren't privy too.  I believe that Melissa may have been acting as a procurer of sorts for some other individuals and this time she got sloppy and got caught.

Yes, fasten your seatbelts..I still feel very strongly this is going to get alot more complicated and sordid before the fat lady sings.  Something very wicked has been going on in the areas of child molestation, drugging , kidnapping and child porn ..this is the tip of the iceburg in my opinion.

[spring2]

This is a link for a Melissa Lawless'
Amazon.com wishlist...
Could be someone else but the choices are kind of interesting.

http://www.amazon.com/Melissa-Lawless/wishlist/277RGJUX7YAAR/ref=cm_pdp_wish_all_itms

Lonemonkey, I note that on her wishlist is several cd's from the band Primus, or recordings with the lead singer Les Claypool.
In researching the banc Primus, I have found some of the seriously most disturbing "art" work dealing with the Occult and graphic sexual self-mutilation.

Disclaimer: Not suitable for children, are sexually and violentally graphic and please DO NOT post any of them here. I recommend if anyone other than you uses your computer you clear the cache, but no, not porn.

http://www.primusville.com/frames/fmutation.html

Ummmmm, do the people who think  up that kind of "art" fantasize that way?  That is a really messed up head to even come up with that kind of "art."

[Wyks]

with the autopsy results not being released - that allows Melissa Huckaby additional "cooling off time" and time to pass from her crime to the trial.

Now, I'm glad on one hand the autopsy is not being released. But let's call it what it is - it's "cooling off time" and not preserving the feeling and emotions of Sandra's family. And quite frankly if the State is so concerned about their feelings - well, that's not how law works. I think we all know that.

This case is the State of California v Melissa Huckaby. Not Mr. and Mrs. Cantu v Melissa Huckably.

When a judge searches for such a foolish explanation for a decision it doesn't bode well for people who care about crime victims.

The judge told the real reason for non-disclosure - "PUBLIC OUTRAGE". So, let's not candy coat what happened to Sandra. She was a member of society murdered by another member of society and Sandra should be afforded her equal and fair rights. Outrage be dammed.

   Stands and cheers for another excellent post!   

Rob, this is EXACTLY the 'real reason'.  This concern for 'public outrage' is a seeming attempt at protecting the sensitive feelings of the public, realities are wrapped up, hidden, tied with a pretty bow.  When actually it is another attempt at quelling any possible mass bent on vigilante justice, in order keep things under control and comfy for the courts, LE, defendant and defendant's family.  ---->  IMO  <----  Nowhere in there does it leave room for standing up for what is right, *for* the victim and victim's family, as well as future victims. 

Exactly the point I attempted to make earlier re LE, the media, and any ritual abuse brought to light.  Gag orders firmly in place.  A seeming attempt at protecting the sensitive feelings of the public.  Hush hush now, we don't want to alarm anyone that evil lurks in their city, town, neighborhood, house or park next door.  My gosh, if anyone were to know the truth, they might get skeeeered.  So they wrap up what they know to be fact, tie it with a pretty bow, and put it away on the furthest shelf back.  The result?  When ritual abuse does raise it's ugly head and LE/media cannot hush hush an incident, the public is **shocked** that such a thing could occur today.  Perhaps they ought to visit the furthest shelves and see how much is hidden there. 

Case in point.  If someone in the vicinity of Fair Oaks, CA (a little town north of Sacramento), would be so kind as to take a little jaunt over to the Fair Oaks Cemetery, and take a few snapshots, I'd be ever so grateful.  Wish I'd thought of doing that when I lived in the Sacramento area.  Posted at that cemetery are many signs that read, "No Satanic activity allowed".  I kid you not.  (at least they were there back in 2000). 

How many cemeterys have you seen with that kind of warning, eh?  Do ya think the reasons for posting those signs have ever hit the front page of the Sacramento Bee?  Ermmm not.  Perhaps buried in the middle of the thickest Sunday edition, if at all.  And why not?  LE, while scurrying around dealing with the ritual abuse going on in that area, put a gag order on the media, so as not to *alarm the public*.  If anyone doesn't believe me, call LE's Ritual Task Force in Sacramento, and ask em.   

Does anyone think that the public *has a right to know*???????  To have the chance to BE outraged and concerned, if they so desire?  To have the right to protect their loved ones and other possible future victims? 

Sigh.  Not gonna happen anytime soon.    

And why?  Just as it is with the judge in Tracy re Sandra's case.  The hidden agenda with their *concern* over public outrage.  Anyone tries to argue with the judge on that will likely be shot down and made to feel like they don't care about the sensitive feelings of the family and the public.  Of course we care!!!  But it's easy for them to hide behind that and not say the real reason for it.  They are afraid of the masses crying for justice.  IMO.

[4getUnot]

I agree with you totally Rob, everything you said !!!!

It's not judge the badge of confidence of a police office but the confidence we put in a Sunday School teacher as well.

I am outraged that Melissa Huckaby has been afforded her Sunday School teacher image.  This image has been thrown out there by the media over and over, it is sickening.  IMO Melissa Huckaby never was or will be a Sunday School teacher of any kind and if she was in fact then I want some proof of it.  IMO that image was a front to cover her deplorable acts that went on for God knows how long.  If Sandra weren't dead Melissa may have been able to carry on unquestioned for a very long time and her cohorts along with her.  I apologize ahead of time to anyone I may offend because I am speaking of a church but I do not think Clover Road Baptist is a real church.  People involved in child porn rings are highly organized criminals who set up their cover before they commit the acts so they can vindicate themselves and continue their crimes.  I pray they will be exposed for the wolves in sheep's clothing that they are.

Sorry for the rant (I guess it was one) Anyways, it's off my mind now.  Thank you for listening....

[no rose colored glasses]

Rob and Wyks, thanks for your posts. The general public don't want to hear about any of these things. If cable news put topics of this nature on they would lose their viewers, people would rather hear about the swine flu, the economy, and what the president's wife wore over in Europe, that is why cable news is on in my house about a hour a day, I don't want to be force feed what the media wants me to hear. One thing that jumped out at me Wyks talking about Satanic Cults, maybe even though at the time I thought it was silly, but when Mark Geragos mentioned about Satanic Cults, and Lacy Peterson, that really could have been a possibility. Not in Lacy's case, because her killer is where he belongs. There is quite a few topics that mainstream media would rather not discuss.

[Tracygirl]

What's so troubling about the January incident (beside the fact that it occurred) against the 7 year old was the POLICE WERE ALERTED. The police did not uncover this crime. It was dropped on the doorstep and they still dropped the ball.

It wasn't as if the crime resulted from an investigation. An investigation was launched AFTER the fact and still there was nothing done.

The police didn't do a competent job here. That's an understatement, to say the least.

If the police can't handle when a crime is reported - how competent are their own investigations into crimes?

follow me here?

Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Det Cogburn was the lead investigator on the January CRIME! He screwed up and now it is nothing but damage control. He states" Melissa Huckaby was nothing more then a person with a petty theft record" uhhh no, she is a person with a felony crime record who was placed into a county mental health program! Not only this, but Detective Cogburn is the detective who was assigned to investigate the child porn in this town. So lets see, he knows there is a child porn problem, he has been told a little girl has gone missing, the mother says she didn't give permission, the girl comes home from spending 4 hours (!) at a park (4 hours? who spends that much time at a park? I go for an hour and am done!) , the girl is found to have drugs in her system, the MOTHER (!) takes the girl to the hospital, (honestly if the mom had drugged the girl do you really think she would take her to the hospital?) The tests come back she was drugged. So who does this detective go after? Of course the mom! After all the woman who SHE WAS WITH FOR 4 HOURS could not have done it? Incompetence in my opinion doesn't cover it. 

This detective has a reputation of being very arrogant, the whole force has that record and reputation.  He neglected to do the basic tasks of his job, investigate. He should be suspending until a complete investigation into this is conducted by an unbiased panel, IMHO. 

[momoftwins]

What's so troubling about the January incident (beside the fact that it occurred) against the 7 year old was the POLICE WERE ALERTED. The police did not uncover this crime. It was dropped on the doorstep and they still dropped the ball.

It wasn't as if the crime resulted from an investigation. An investigation was launched AFTER the fact and still there was nothing done.

The police didn't do a competent job here. That's an understatement, to say the least.

If the police can't handle when a crime is reported - how competent are their own investigations into crimes?

follow me here?

I hear you loud, and clear. ALL I CAN SAY IS IT'S TOTALLY UNACCEPTABLE

[Wyks]

Rob and Wyks, thanks for your posts. The general public don't want to hear about any of these things. If cable news put topics of this nature on they would lose their viewers, people would rather hear about the swine flu, the economy, and what the president's wife wore over in Europe, that is why cable news is on in my house about a hour a day, I don't want to be force feed what the media wants me to hear. One thing that jumped out at me Wyks talking about Satanic Cults, maybe even though at the time I thought it was silly, but when Mark Geragos mentioned about Satanic Cults, and Lacy Peterson, that really could have been a possibility. Not in Lacy's case, because her killer is where he belongs. There is quite a few topics that mainstream media would rather not discuss.

I agree Rosie!  Very often the general public doesn't want to hear about these things.  One reason is that it tends to be very hard in the first place to think another human being could do such a thing.  Once a person becomes aware of a reality and accepts it, then they are faced with a moral responsibility to try and do something about it.  It's easier to believe that something isn't real, could never happen, than to accept reality. 

You're right about the news, they pick and choose what they want the public to know.  To be fair to some extent to them, they are often 'told' by their higherups what they can and cannot report.  But for darn sure, if we as the consumers are seeing night after night reports of things such as Britney Spears and Octomom, etc.  what we need to ask ourselves is what's going on in the world/state/city/town that they don't want us to know about, or cannot report on?   We are being force-fed pablum with the majority of what we see on TV news.  And when some of those on TV get sick and tired of being manipulated to manipulate us with off-the-wall "entertainment" for the ratings .. and take a shaky stand and try to report some truths of what's actually going on .. they are immediately whisked away and fired, for their efforts.  Of course, that's not what will be said about it tho.  They'll come up with some contrived reason for the person being fired.  I've seen it happen time and again, with much loved and watched reporters, talkheads, etc.  I would give case in points here, but do not want to start any debates in the thread.  lol

All of that is one reason I like watching reruns of old shows or old movies, and even ignoring commercials.   

The powers that be haven't yet figured out how to fully control the masses on the internet.  But when that day comes, those who are standing for truth and justice will likely be the first to get muzzled. 

All IMO. 

[BooMonkey]

Do you guys know if the Cantu's have any Michigan family?? My daughter has been dating a young man with the last name Cantu for 6 years. Just wondering.

[Wyks]

Do you guys know if the Cantu's have any Michigan family?? My daughter has been dating a young man with the last name Cantu for 6 years. Just wondering.

Am checking into that for you, Boo.  And some other monkeys have some mad skillz in this area.    

Cantu seems to be a popular last name, lots of em around in CA anyway. 

Trying to find out how old Sandra's father, Daniel Cantu is.  Anyone know for sure?  Am reading thru news articles and haven't found mention of his age yet.  Actually there's not much detailed info about him at all.  Boo, if we find his age, it's easier to search for his possible family members elsewhere. 

Here's what I've found so far, still checking.  Not sure if this Daniel Cantu is Sandra's father, yet he's the only Daniel Cantu listed for Tracy CA (that I've found yet).  So am thinking this likely is him.  It appears that he may be from Ohio, at least he has lived there anyway. 

CANTU, DANIEL
Age: 37

TRACY, CA
TIFFIN, OH

    * CANTU, CONCHITA (Age 64)
    * CANTU, MARIA  B (Age 92)
    * CANTU, PAUL (Age 51)
    * CANTU, PABLO (Age 61)
    * CANTU, RICARDO (Age 34)
    * CANTU, SANDRA  E (Age 30)

[Wyks]

I missed this while reading the article before, have you guys seen this?   

From the article:
Cantu Autopsy, Toxicology Info To Be Sealed

<snipped>

"Huckaby's great-uncle, Arthur Harris, said her alleged acts are out of character. He also said Connie Lawless, Huckaby's grandmother, takes in foster children and never spanks them."

http://rss.msnbc.msn.com/id/30393210/

i yi yi yi yi!  The good pastor's wife takes in foster kids......    

   

[Tracygirl]

I missed this while reading the article before, have you guys seen this?   

From the article:
Cantu Autopsy, Toxicology Info To Be Sealed

<snipped>

"Huckaby's great-uncle, Arthur Harris, said her alleged acts are out of character. He also said Connie Lawless, Huckaby's grandmother, takes in foster children and never spanks them."

http://rss.msnbc.msn.com/id/30393210/

i yi yi yi yi!  The good pastor's wife takes in foster kids......    

   

They have foster kids? Where are they???? Who are they??? When did they have them last??? Is that the little girl with the princess crown on?

[danabar]

I missed this while reading the article before, have you guys seen this?   

From the article:
Cantu Autopsy, Toxicology Info To Be Sealed

<snipped>

"Huckaby's great-uncle, Arthur Harris, said her alleged acts are out of character. He also said Connie Lawless, Huckaby's grandmother, takes in foster children and never spanks them."

http://rss.msnbc.msn.com/id/30393210/

i yi yi yi yi!  The good pastor's wife takes in foster kids......    

   

They have foster kids? Where are they???? Who are they??? When did they have them last??? Is that the little girl with the princess crown on?

OMG, this definitely needs looking into.  Wonder if LE knows this?

              

[Tracygirl]

I missed this while reading the article before, have you guys seen this?   

From the article:
Cantu Autopsy, Toxicology Info To Be Sealed

<snipped>

"Huckaby's great-uncle, Arthur Harris, said her alleged acts are out of character. He also said Connie Lawless, Huckaby's grandmother, takes in foster children and never spanks them."

http://rss.msnbc.msn.com/id/30393210/

i yi yi yi yi!  The good pastor's wife takes in foster kids......    

   

They have foster kids? Where are they???? Who are they??? When did they have them last??? Is that the little girl with the princess crown on?

OMG, this definitely needs looking into.  Wonder if LE knows this?

              

Scary isn't it? Does le know? LOL I  wont answer that, I think everyone has the picture on how I feel about my local police! 

[Wyks]

I missed this while reading the article before, have you guys seen this?   

From the article:
Cantu Autopsy, Toxicology Info To Be Sealed

<snipped>

"Huckaby's great-uncle, Arthur Harris, said her alleged acts are out of character. He also said Connie Lawless, Huckaby's grandmother, takes in foster children and never spanks them."

http://rss.msnbc.msn.com/id/30393210/

i yi yi yi yi!  The good pastor's wife takes in foster kids......    

   

They have foster kids? Where are they???? Who are they??? When did they have them last??? Is that the little girl with the princess crown on?

OMG, this definitely needs looking into.  Wonder if LE knows this?

              

Scary isn't it? Does le know? LOL I  wont answer that, I think everyone has the picture on how I feel about my local police! 

Good questions Tracygirl and Danabar!  Wish I had the answers.  How can we find out?  Where do we even start? 

[JessStar]

What's so troubling about the January incident (beside the fact that it occurred) against the 7 year old was the POLICE WERE ALERTED. The police did not uncover this crime. It was dropped on the doorstep and they still dropped the ball.

It wasn't as if the crime resulted from an investigation. An investigation was launched AFTER the fact and still there was nothing done.

The police didn't do a competent job here. That's an understatement, to say the least.

If the police can't handle when a crime is reported - how competent are their own investigations into crimes?

follow me here?

Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Det Cogburn was the lead investigator on the January CRIME! He screwed up and now it is nothing but damage control. He states" Melissa Huckaby was nothing more then a person with a petty theft record" uhhh no, she is a person with a felony crime record who was placed into a county mental health program! Not only this, but Detective Cogburn is the detective who was assigned to investigate the child porn in this town. So lets see, he knows there is a child porn problem, he has been told a little girl has gone missing, the mother says she didn't give permission, the girl comes home from spending 4 hours (!) at a park (4 hours? who spends that much time at a park? I go for an hour and am done!) , the girl is found to have drugs in her system, the MOTHER (!) takes the girl to the hospital, (honestly if the mom had drugged the girl do you really think she would take her to the hospital?) The tests come back she was drugged. So who does this detective go after? Of course the mom! After all the woman who SHE WAS WITH FOR 4 HOURS could not have done it? Incompetence in my opinion doesn't cover it. 

This detective has a reputation of being very arrogant, the whole force has that record and reputation.  He neglected to do the basic tasks of his job, investigate. He should be suspending until a complete investigation into this is conducted by an unbiased panel, IMHO. 

Amen Tracygirl.  I can't for the life of me come up with a palatable explanation for this.  I said it before and I'll say it again, what more did they need?  Don't answer that--we all know the answer. 

[Tracygirl]

  Ohhh Deeeeeenie, ohhhh Bliiiink any suggestions????  Where do we start researching who, what, where regarding foster children placement in the lawless home?

That is just really scary to think about! 

[Wyks]

I gotta run out for a bit, will be back in a bit.  Could some of you smarter monkeys go ahead and solve this case, plz?   hehe    

[Tracygirl]

What's so troubling about the January incident (beside the fact that it occurred) against the 7 year old was the POLICE WERE ALERTED. The police did not uncover this crime. It was dropped on the doorstep and they still dropped the ball.

It wasn't as if the crime resulted from an investigation. An investigation was launched AFTER the fact and still there was nothing done.

The police didn't do a competent job here. That's an understatement, to say the least.

If the police can't handle when a crime is reported - how competent are their own investigations into crimes?

follow me here?

Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Det Cogburn was the lead investigator on the January CRIME! He screwed up and now it is nothing but damage control. He states" Melissa Huckaby was nothing more then a person with a petty theft record" uhhh no, she is a person with a felony crime record who was placed into a county mental health program! Not only this, but Detective Cogburn is the detective who was assigned to investigate the child porn in this town. So lets see, he knows there is a child porn problem, he has been told a little girl has gone missing, the mother says she didn't give permission, the girl comes home from spending 4 hours (!) at a park (4 hours? who spends that much time at a park? I go for an hour and am done!) , the girl is found to have drugs in her system, the MOTHER (!) takes the girl to the hospital, (honestly if the mom had drugged the girl do you really think she would take her to the hospital?) The tests come back she was drugged. So who does this detective go after? Of course the mom! After all the woman who SHE WAS WITH FOR 4 HOURS could not have done it? Incompetence in my opinion doesn't cover it. 

This detective has a reputation of being very arrogant, the whole force has that record and reputation.  He neglected to do the basic tasks of his job, investigate. He should be suspending until a complete investigation into this is conducted by an unbiased panel, IMHO. 

Amen Tracygirl.  I can't for the life of me come up with a palatable explanation for this.  I said it before and I'll say it again, what more did they need?  Don't answer that--we all know the answer. 

They need a criminal doing this  and screaming out, but know I really did it, I really did!

[klaasend]

I missed this while reading the article before, have you guys seen this?   

From the article:
Cantu Autopsy, Toxicology Info To Be Sealed

<snipped>

"Huckaby's great-uncle, Arthur Harris, said her alleged acts are out of character. He also said Connie Lawless, Huckaby's grandmother, takes in foster children and never spanks them."

http://rss.msnbc.msn.com/id/30393210/

i yi yi yi yi!  The good pastor's wife takes in foster kids......    

   

Lane and Connie are foster parents?  How the heck would Arthur Harris know if Connie spanked them, he's not living there!