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« Reply #20 on: April 15, 2009, 10:39:48 AM »

I don't know, but swallowing blades to commit suicide in itself is very frightening. I'm not making any excuses for anybody, but OMG what type of person does this?
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« Reply #21 on: April 15, 2009, 10:40:17 AM »

Well no one swallows 3 knife blades by accident So she wanted to kill herself for what happened to Sandra. Does that indicate a woman who's intent was to kill Sandra, I don't think so. It is sounding more and more like she was duped into getting the little girl and was disgusted with herself for what eventually happened to her.
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« Reply #22 on: April 15, 2009, 10:42:41 AM »

Well no one swallows 3 knife blades by accident So she wanted to kill herself for what happened to Sandra. Does that indicate a woman who's intent was to kill Sandra, I don't think so. It is sounding more and more like she was duped into getting the little girl and was disgusted with herself for what eventually happened to her.
I'm trying to figure how the he!! you swallow three blades, and I really want to know more about the psychotropic meds she was on, and on them for what purpose, her diagnosis would be interesting.
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« Reply #23 on: April 15, 2009, 10:46:52 AM »

Good Morning, I'm very curious to why LE went back to the home and church, and if they took something. If Melissa said it was an accident, I have a feeling she said other things as well, and that is what brought LE back.
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Last I heard Melissa was claiming to be innocent.  I would be interested to know what LE took.

Yeah, she's innocent alright:

CBS: Huckaby Swallowed Knife Blades Before Arrest
The Sunday school teacher accused with raping and murdering 8-year-old Sandra Cantu attempted suicide days before her arrest in the case, according to CBS News.

Melissa Huckaby was hospitalized after swallowing three X-Acto knife blades, reports CBS News correspondent John Blackstone. She remains under suicide watch after being formally charged yesterday with kidnapping, raping and murdering her daughter's playmate. . . .


Oh wow, and now this brings me to the next important question, in a phone interview her grandma said that Melissa has been taking psychotropic meds, what has she been taking, did she go off the meds, or was she on the wrong meds. http://www.recordnet.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090415/A_NEWS/904150329

They are going to blame it on a psych break or blame it on her meds.
It's all being shaped that way...the whole "accident."
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« Reply #24 on: April 15, 2009, 10:58:00 AM »

Munch a buncha Munch a buncha - Razor Blades go with lunch.



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« Reply #25 on: April 15, 2009, 10:59:34 AM »

ok now with suicide attempt I think this profile is starting to fit for her: 

Insecurity at Heart of Pedophilia
As with all things sexual, however, it's not always so simple. Heterosexual, homosexual, and bisexual men and women may become sexually attracted to children even though they're also attracted to adults. When this happens, it's usually because of insecurity or stress in an adult relationship, says Anthony Siracusa, a psychologist in Williamstown, Mass., who specializes in treating abused kids and sexual offenders.

These people, Siracusa says, are called "regressed offenders" because they have literally regressed: They lose the social skills they need to deal with other adults, which makes children more attractive to them. Regressed offenders may "bounce back and forth" between normal sexual relationships and criminal relations with children.

Insecurity, Hord agrees, is at the heart of pedophilia. Typically, pedophiles have trouble relating to people their own age. They need to feel they have power and control in a relationship, which is easy with children

http://www.webmd.com/sex-relationships/features/explaining-pedophilia

I know this is disturbing to us here but this woman to me is a predator regardless of accomplices she acted in luring a child to a place w/bad intentions and has enough info to lead the police to charge her for this horrible act upon Sandra.  I believe she did not intend to kill Sandra and I think we may find out that this is not the first time she acted on her sickness.  Sure she may have not acted alone and she may have been making a child porn movie but she did it.

She took this innocent little girl to a place that had all the neccessary things for her to carry out this act.
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« Reply #26 on: April 15, 2009, 11:00:19 AM »

Well no one swallows 3 knife blades by accident So she wanted to kill herself for what happened to Sandra. Does that indicate a woman who's intent was to kill Sandra, I don't think so. It is sounding more and more like she was duped into getting the little girl and was disgusted with herself for what eventually happened to her.


Or a sick woman who was off her meds, had a psychotic break and now that she is back on meds realizes the horrors of what she did.

(not saying that is what happened) but I think that is where the defense is leading.
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« Reply #27 on: April 15, 2009, 11:01:44 AM »

Yes, I believe this will be going the route of a psych break or blame it on her meds. If this really is insanity, and as of now I'm leaning that way, but will wait to hear more that's for sure.
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« Reply #28 on: April 15, 2009, 11:03:36 AM »

Well no one swallows 3 knife blades by accident So she wanted to kill herself for what happened to Sandra. Does that indicate a woman who's intent was to kill Sandra, I don't think so. It is sounding more and more like she was duped into getting the little girl and was disgusted with herself for what eventually happened to her.


Or a sick woman who was off her meds, had a psychotic break and now that she is back on meds realizes the horrors of what she did.

(not saying that is what happened) but I think that is where the defense is leading.
I'm leaning that way.
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« Reply #29 on: April 15, 2009, 11:03:47 AM »

http://abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/Story?id=7321954&page=3

Deputy Les Garcia, spokesman for the San Joaquin County Sheriff's Office, which includes the coroner, told ABCNews.com that the autopsy on Sandra's body was completed Tuesday, but that it could take four to eight weeks to determine how she died.

"We're waiting on our tissue samples as well as toxicology results from the lab," he said.

Tissue and Toxicology results means to me we are waiting to see if she was drug overdosed or suffocated... anyone want to shoot me down.
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« Reply #30 on: April 15, 2009, 11:04:56 AM »

ok now with suicide attempt I think this profile is starting to fit for her: 

Insecurity at Heart of Pedophilia
As with all things sexual, however, it's not always so simple. Heterosexual, homosexual, and bisexual men and women may become sexually attracted to children even though they're also attracted to adults. When this happens, it's usually because of insecurity or stress in an adult relationship, says Anthony Siracusa, a psychologist in Williamstown, Mass., who specializes in treating abused kids and sexual offenders.

These people, Siracusa says, are called "regressed offenders" because they have literally regressed: They lose the social skills they need to deal with other adults, which makes children more attractive to them. Regressed offenders may "bounce back and forth" between normal sexual relationships and criminal relations with children.

Insecurity, Hord agrees, is at the heart of pedophilia. Typically, pedophiles have trouble relating to people their own age. They need to feel they have power and control in a relationship, which is easy with children

http://www.webmd.com/sex-relationships/features/explaining-pedophilia

I know this is disturbing to us here but this woman to me is a predator regardless of accomplices she acted in luring a child to a place w/bad intentions and has enough info to lead the police to charge her for this horrible act upon Sandra.  I believe she did not intend to kill Sandra and I think we may find out that this is not the first time she acted on her sickness.  Sure she may have not acted alone and she may have been making a child porn movie but she did it.

She took this innocent little girl to a place that had all the neccessary things for her to carry out this act.


totally agree Fatcat....she is responsible for her own actions....no one could MAKE me do such a thing...so, even if she did this for or with someone else...she did her part in all of it...I am not so sure that she didn't act alone and I agree that she may have acted on all of this before now..
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« Reply #31 on: April 15, 2009, 11:05:25 AM »

Good Morning, I'm very curious to why LE went back to the home and church, and if they took something. If Melissa said it was an accident, I have a feeling she said other things as well, and that is what brought LE back.

In one of the online sites it said the reason was to look for more evidence tying Melissa to that note Melissa said she got regarding the luggage and irrigation pond.  Melissa allegidly admitted she wrote it.
Wow...Thank you.
All missing/murdered children reports are tragic, but the horror of what happened to little Sandra has really gotten to me.  Maybe it is because my daughter is close to Sandra's age, looks a little like her and we are active in our church too.  Maybe it is the video of her skipping down the street not a care in the world and her Sunday School teacher grabbed her and hurt her so terribly.  My heart just really aches.

If it's any consolation, I am terribly distraught over this.  I can't get this little girl out my mind.  What makes it worse is all the speculation and "what iffs."  The truth is, we don't know what happened to Sandra.  But as adults, we understand what rape and sexual assault means.  Therefore, our ability to dream up the scenarios that eventually led to Sandra's death are limited only by the vividness of our imaginations.  I got limited comfort from watching the arraignment yesterday because, to me, MH did not look like a sadistic psycopathic killer that would BRUTALLY kill an 8-year old child.  That doesn't mean I have any sympathy for her--I dont.  I'd spend my life savings just to have 5 minutes alone with her.  I pray for the day she fries either at the hands of the state or the hands of her fellow prisoners.  But seeing MH yesterday does allow me to continue believing that Sandra passed into God's hands quietly without any knowledge of what happened to her. 
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« Reply #32 on: April 15, 2009, 11:05:27 AM »

Well no one swallows 3 knife blades by accident So she wanted to kill herself for what happened to Sandra. Does that indicate a woman who's intent was to kill Sandra, I don't think so. It is sounding more and more like she was duped into getting the little girl and was disgusted with herself for what eventually happened to her.
I'm trying to figure how the he!! you swallow three blades, and I really want to know more about the psychotropic meds she was on, and on them for what purpose, her diagnosis would be interesting.

She would have had to have surgery to remove these. There is no way they would let them "pass" through the system like when a kid swallows a penny.

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« Reply #33 on: April 15, 2009, 11:07:13 AM »

Well no one swallows 3 knife blades by accident So she wanted to kill herself for what happened to Sandra. Does that indicate a woman who's intent was to kill Sandra, I don't think so. It is sounding more and more like she was duped into getting the little girl and was disgusted with herself for what eventually happened to her.


Or a sick woman who was off her meds, had a psychotic break and now that she is back on meds realizes the horrors of what she did.

(not saying that is what happened) but I think that is where the defense is leading.

I think this will be the defense as well....especially since she was supposed to take a mental evaluation after her last court appearance before yesterday? they are building a defense imo
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« Reply #34 on: April 15, 2009, 11:10:16 AM »

Yes, I believe this will be going the route of a psych break or blame it on her meds. If this really is insanity, and as of now I'm leaning that way, but will wait to hear more that's for sure.


That's all well and good.  So she freaked out.  She has a defense.  SCREW THAT!  Sandra didn't get a defense.  It's just BS.  If she has confessed to it, let her pay the  price.  Meds or no meds.  It's just not fair!  And to see that attorney rubbing her back?  That just made me want to hurl.  Who the hell was comforting little Sandra when she was being RAPED with a foreign freakin object????? Okay.  I am stopping now.  I am so pissed!
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« Reply #35 on: April 15, 2009, 11:14:31 AM »

http://abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/Story?id=7321954&page=3

Deputy Les Garcia, spokesman for the San Joaquin County Sheriff's Office, which includes the coroner, told ABCNews.com that the autopsy on Sandra's body was completed Tuesday, but that it could take four to eight weeks to determine how she died.

"We're waiting on our tissue samples as well as toxicology results from the lab," he said.

Tissue and Toxicology results means to me we are waiting to see if she was drug overdosed or suffocated... anyone want to shoot me down.

No shooting you down. They do "do" tissue and tox tests on all autopsies.

They could very well have a cause of death already or think they know but are waiting to get the results from all tests back before releasing that information.

Or they can't tell from the autopsy itself the cause of death and are waiting for the results to help determine it. (like you said)
 
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« Reply #36 on: April 15, 2009, 11:15:05 AM »

Yes, I believe this will be going the route of a psych break or blame it on her meds. If this really is insanity, and as of now I'm leaning that way, but will wait to hear more that's for sure.

Do you mean insanity as in "Not guilty by reason of insanity?"  If so, I totally disagree.  Her actions before and after the incident are totally consistent with a person who was in charge of her faculties.  She knew what she was doing.  If the problem was she went off her meds, then she had a sponaneous and miraculous recovery because she tried to hide the evidence immediately after Sandra died and presumably before she went back on them.
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« Reply #37 on: April 15, 2009, 11:16:29 AM »

Yes, I believe this will be going the route of a psych break or blame it on her meds. If this really is insanity, and as of now I'm leaning that way, but will wait to hear more that's for sure.


That's all well and good.  So she freaked out.  She has a defense.  SCREW THAT!  Sandra didn't get a defense.  It's just BS.  If she has confessed to it, let her pay the  price.  Meds or no meds.  It's just not fair!  And to see that attorney rubbing her back?  That just made me want to hurl.  Who the hell was comforting little Sandra when she was being RAPED with a foreign freakin object????? Okay.  I am stopping now.  I am so pissed!


Spring....really good point....No one was probably comforting Sandra....I sure don't feel sorry for this woman, not one bit....she killed Sandra so that she didn't have a witness to what she had done to her...she didn't have to murder her....I am pissed too...
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« Reply #38 on: April 15, 2009, 11:18:25 AM »

Well no one swallows 3 knife blades by accident So she wanted to kill herself for what happened to Sandra. Does that indicate a woman who's intent was to kill Sandra, I don't think so. It is sounding more and more like she was duped into getting the little girl and was disgusted with herself for what eventually happened to her.
I'm trying to figure how the he!! you swallow three blades, and I really want to know more about the psychotropic meds she was on, and on them for what purpose, her diagnosis would be interesting.

It would be interesting to know.  Is Gma the only one who has said Melissa is on these types of meds? 

Psychotropic meds are used for the following:

Schizophrenia
Bipolar disorder
Depression
Anxiety disorders
Anti-panic Agents
Anti-obsessive Agents
Stimulants (used in the treatment of ADD/ADHD)

A list of the commonly prescribed meds for each of the above are at this link:

http://www.toddlertime.com/med/common-meds.htm
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« Reply #39 on: April 15, 2009, 11:18:59 AM »

Yes, I believe this will be going the route of a psych break or blame it on her meds. If this really is insanity, and as of now I'm leaning that way, but will wait to hear more that's for sure.


That's all well and good.  So she freaked out.  She has a defense.  SCREW THAT!  Sandra didn't get a defense.  It's just BS.  If she has confessed to it, let her pay the  price.  Meds or no meds.  It's just not fair!  And to see that attorney rubbing her back?  That just made me want to hurl.  Who the hell was comforting little Sandra when she was being RAPED with a foreign freakin object????? Okay.  I am stopping now.  I am so pissed!

Spring2 I am right there with you!  I am so angry right now and if she get's off on insanity I think I will totally lose it.  I am convinced she is a predator there is no doubt in my mind.  I can understand the death, hiding it, lying, but the rape goes beyond the pale for me and I want this woman to pay just like a man who commits the same crime would.


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