Sandra Cantu #3 4/15/09 -4/27/09

[MunkeyMunk]

what bothers me about Pastor Lawless is all his aliases.  I mean why does one need so many I've made it almost 40 yrs with only 2 he has like 6? I think.  Sounds like somebody trying to hide something to me.

Anybody else still getting bumped out of SM site?  I am.

Yes, I have been bumped several times this morning.

[spring2]

MANTECA, Calif. —  Melissa Huckaby, the Tracy woman accused of kidnapping, raping and murdering a neighbor girl, has been described as a 28-year-old Sunday school teacher and single mother of a 5-year-old.

A woman with the same name who lives 14 miles away is also a 28-year-old Sunday school teacher and single mother of a 5-year-old.

The improbable similarities have created inevitable confusion.

Click here for photos

News crews keep calling or approaching Melissa Huckaby of Manteca looking for the woman accused of killing 8-year-old Sandra Cantu. And so many people posted threatening messages on her MySpace page that the misidentified Huckaby says she canceled her account.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,516628,00.html

I see.......Another defamation of character case in the future here.

These news people must be a little out of the loop 

Ummmm, last I heard, she was in jail 

[goodnmad]

commonly prescribed psychotropics

http://www.nami.org/Template.cfm?Section=Policymakers_Toolkit&Template=/ContentManagement/HTMLDisplay.cfm&ContentID=18971

Typical Antipsychotics      
Haldol (haloperidol)   
Loxitane (loxapine)   
Mellaril (thioridazine)   
Moban (molindone)
Navane (thiothixene)   
Prolixin (fluphenazine)   
Serentil (mesoridazine
Stelazine (trifluoperazine)
Thorazine (chlorpromazine)
Trilafon (perphenazine)

I understand this type of drugs in particular might cause bad reactions ... I am on an anti-depressant myself and tried one that made me feel very angry.

But as a possible defense .. I'm not going there. But it has been done before. Zoloft. Accutance -- to name a couple.

Oh, me too I was on two that made me feel violent inside, luckily I had family and I had a few brain cells to toss those pills in the trash. I was completely misdiagnosed and was given meds that were horrible. How many people in this country alone are given some of these powerful meds, and reactions happen. But, Melissa and her grandparents must have seen that things were not going well with medication that was prescribed to her, if this is what even happened. Just because grandma said she was on meds, I don't really believe what grandma says anyway. And if the defense is going to say that the meds, blah, blah, were a factor in all of this, I'm not going to buy it at all.

Oh, me either. The thing is you have family doctors prescribing this sutff like it is candy. If in fact she was on psych meds, I wonder if she got them from a psychiatrist and what she was diagnosed with.

Any of these meds should be taken seriously -- especially if given to teens -- family should be watching for changes in behavior and mood, etc. Not only that -- more docs should be aware of the withdrawal effects. Many are on a med b/c it is downright scary to stop taking it.

But again, there is just no excuse. When I had a bad reaction, I stopped taking that med and reported it to my doctor. Simple as that.

And I will chime in on her appearance in court the other day. I don't feel sorry for her and don't feel just b/c she cried and seemed genuinely embarrassed that somehow she did not do it or is covering for someone else.  She ought to be damn embarrassed and disgusted by herself. She got caught -- that's what she's embarrassed about.

She may not be a Richard Allen Davis who sits in court and flips people off but that has no bearing on her guilt or innocence. Maybe it's just easier to believe a person like him could do something so horrible, rather than a person like MH.

IMO

[lady]

Janet
Have you noticed that on the guest book of the Clover Road church
there is many guests that are from Canada that seem to be in Clergy.
I wanted to copy and paste for you ... looks like they shut down the site..linked to the church.
Maybe its my computer ..I don't know.

I can't access the website either.

Considering the roots of Sandra's father originate in Mexico ... maybe her mother has a Canadian background.  Canada ... God's country.

 

Interesting observation Deenie.

Janet

Deenie ... I never read your post carefully.  I thought you were referring the following link regarding Sandra's memorial ... a link that cannot be accessed.

Janet

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Amber Alert announces Cantu memorial fund
ShareThis
Bee Staff
Published: Wednesday, Apr. 15, 2009 - 3:24 pm

A memorial fund for Sandra Cantu, the Tracy girl who was kidnapped and killed, has been established by the Amber Alert Foundation in conjunction with Amber Alert GPS and Smart/i/tag. Donations can be dropped off at Umpqua Bank branches or mailed. Contributions should be made payable to: Sandra Cantu Memorial Fund, Account No. 991648908, Umpqua Bank, P.O.Box 1820, Roseburg, Ore., 94740.

http://www.sacbee.com/latest/story/1783412.html

Anyone get this link to work or no????

[Tamikosmom]

I think my monkey brain just snapped
go back to the Church - Aisal Baptist in Salinas
http://www.alisalbaptistchurch.org/missions.php
They have a Missionary listed
MISSIONARY TO THE PHILIPPINES
Missionary:    Elder Brent Spears
Sponsoring Church:    Bryan Station Baptist Church
Contact Address:    Blk. 29 Lot 12 Area "S"
Maharlika St., Queens Row Subd.,
Molino, Bacoor, Cavite
This is the Link - http://www.bryanstation.com/missionary_reports1.htm
They have a Pastor Cantu and he is in Mexico - he is named as one of the principal who offer missionary reports month to month -
2009 Mar    Spears  Zuhars  Quetua  Cantu 
Enrique Cantú
Missionary to Mexico
Calle Teonacaztle # 2102
Esquina con Teocaltiche
Fracc. Teocaltiche
Ciudad Victoria, Tamaulipas Mexico C.P. 87024
Telephone: (011 52) 834-340-5817
Its probably a fluke - but Man is that a kicker or what ..
http://www.bryanstation.com/organized.htm
this link above shows all the Churches that represent Bryan Station - Churches from every corner of the World in this " group".

[Deenie]

what bothers me about Pastor Lawless is all his aliases.  I mean why does one need so many I've made it almost 40 yrs with only 2 he has like 6? I think.  Sounds like somebody trying to hide something to me.

Anybody else still getting bumped out of SM site?  I am.

I have been kicked out - 3 times ..lost connection

[pink angel]

Janet
Have you noticed that on the guest book of the Clover Road church
there is many guests that are from Canada that seem to be in Clergy.
I wanted to copy and paste for you ... looks like they shut down the site..linked to the church.
Maybe its my computer ..I don't know.

I can't access the website either.

Considering the roots of Sandra's father originate in Mexico ... maybe her mother has a Canadian background.  Canada ... God's country.

 

Interesting observation Deenie.

Janet

Deenie ... I never read your post carefully.  I thought you were referring the following link regarding Sandra's memorial ... a link that cannot be accessed.

Janet

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Amber Alert announces Cantu memorial fund
ShareThis
Bee Staff
Published: Wednesday, Apr. 15, 2009 - 3:24 pm

A memorial fund for Sandra Cantu, the Tracy girl who was kidnapped and killed, has been established by the Amber Alert Foundation in conjunction with Amber Alert GPS and Smart/i/tag. Donations can be dropped off at Umpqua Bank branches or mailed. Contributions should be made payable to: Sandra Cantu Memorial Fund, Account No. 991648908, Umpqua Bank, P.O.Box 1820, Roseburg, Ore., 94740.

http://www.sacbee.com/latest/story/1783412.html

Anyone get this link to work or no????

It did work honest! LOL

http://www.examiner.com/r-9138196~Amber_Alert_announces_Cantu_memorial_fund.html

[Edward]

I think my monkey brain just snapped
go back to the Church - Aisal Baptist in Salinas
http://www.alisalbaptistchurch.org/missions.php
They have a Missionary listed
MISSIONARY TO THE PHILIPPINES
Missionary:    Elder Brent Spears
Sponsoring Church:    Bryan Station Baptist Church
Contact Address:    Blk. 29 Lot 12 Area "S"
Maharlika St., Queens Row Subd.,
Molino, Bacoor, Cavite
This is the Link - http://www.bryanstation.com/missionary_reports1.htm
They have a Pastor Cantu and he is in Mexico - he is named as one of the principal who offer missionary reports month to month -
2009 Mar    Spears  Zuhars  Quetua  Cantu 
Enrique Cantú
Missionary to Mexico
Calle Teonacaztle # 2102
Esquina con Teocaltiche
Fracc. Teocaltiche
Ciudad Victoria, Tamaulipas Mexico C.P. 87024
Telephone: (011 52) 834-340-5817
Its probably a fluke - but Man is that a kicker or what ..
http://www.bryanstation.com/organized.htm
this link above shows all the Churches that represent Bryan Station - Churches from every corner of the World in this " group".

I love those Hinky Alerts.. It sets me on HIGH Alert. 

[Edward]

TRACY - Authorities are investigating whether other children have been sexually abused by the woman they believe raped and murdered Sandra Cantu.

Tracy police are asking parents who think their children might have been "inappropriately contacted" by Melissa Chantel Huckaby, the Sunday school teacher and mother charged in the girl's death, to talk to investigators.

"We would not be doing our due diligence if we didn't ask," Tracy police Sgt. Tony Sheneman said Wednesday. "We have no indication there are any other victims."

No one has come forward to investigators, and there is no evidence other children have been abused, Sheneman said. Police are asking questions, however, "to put the public's mind at ease and to satisfy investigators' questions," he said.

http://www.recordnet.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090416/A_NEWS02/904160336
When asked if more arrests could be made in connection with the alleged sexual abuse of Sandra, Sheneman replied: "Anything is possible. But there's no indication" that will happen.

Huckaby, a 28-year-old single mother whose 5-year-old daughter played with Sandra, remained in the San Joaquin County Jail without bail. On Tuesday, Huckaby was charged with kidnapping, raping and killing her 8-year-old neighbor before dumping her body into a suitcase. The crimes could carry a death sentence.

Her daughter is on a vacation with a relative that was planned before her mother's arrest, said Connie Lawless, the woman's grandmother with whom she lives.

Huckaby's arrest shocked an already reeling community that has struggled to comprehend the brutal killing, a crime typically perpetrated by men. That police believe she raped and molested a young girl - and are looking into whether there are other child victims - is especially rare.

One in 10 sex crimes reported to police involves female abusers, according to the federal Center for Sex Offender Management

Sam Behar, a longtime attorney in the San Joaquin County Public Defender's Office, said Wednesday that he will represent Huckaby. He said he knows little about the woman and could not discuss the case.

Police have not said how or where Sandra was killed and have not disclosed a motive. Huckaby's history of mental illness, however, could become a significant factor in the case.

Before she was arrested, Huckaby was enrolled in a court-ordered mental health program as part of her probation for a recent theft charge.

Once in jail, she was on suicide watch in the days before her court hearing Tuesday. A judge overseeing Huckaby's arraignment also ordered a medical evaluation.

Her relatives acknowledge she struggled with depression after her divorce and couldn't hold a job. Her grandmother said the woman has been taking psychotropic medication.

"Obviously, any mental issues would have an effect on this case," District Attorney James Willett said after Tuesday's arraignment.

An insanity defense - which hinges on proving the defendant could not tell right from wrong when the crime was committed - would be difficult, legal experts say.

One sticking point: that Sandra's killer apparently hid the body in a suitcase and tossed it into a nearby pond, indicating the girl's attacker was aware a crime was committed.

"Crazy people don't know enough to hide their crimes," said William Portanova, a Sacramento defense attorney and former state and federal prosecutor.

[luvmyboys]

is there anyway that someone can post the who is who in this case..as in moms name,dads name,mh husband name. like the people who have been looked at thoughout sandra case. at least by people here..and the people that we think that should be looked at closer..i am just curious..

[fatcatlurker]

Find it, document it and report it.
That's really all we can do.
Even when I left the isp, I still everyone once in a while would hunt a bit and find something and document it, then report it. I called the local FBI which at the time was in Dallas.

Since I was no longer in the loop of the isp, I never found out what happened.

It's a sticky situation now though with homeland security. I am fearful of finding it, capturing it and sending it to the fbi..because now I'm just a civilian person and I would have to have it at least temporarily on my machine to forward it. Which I absolutely do not want.

Mostly now it's torrents and traded from machine (server whatever) to machine. Which in my mind is MORE prosecutable..since it's not on an offshore server, it's on YOUR machine.
Lots of sites (torrent sites with web front ends) are hosting it but since it's not actually a place, instead it's like a collection of machines all over the world....whoever at any given time sets up their machine to serve...it's hard to legally tell them what to do. I know PirateBay is hosted off shore but they are not the hosters of any porn....it's whoever (in whatever country) who is serving up the pics or videos or whatever. And I don't know how internet saavy you are but it's not just one machine, it's thousands, possibly a million. It's like a mini internet inside the internet. Sort of
I'm not good at teaching.

Sites that we saw back in the day were located offshore (alot of gambling sites are not just for gambling) and they would be up for 2 days then disappear. So by the time the FBI gets a tip, investigates it, the site is gone. That's why documenting is important.

I'm no expert so there may be other more viable ways you can help but all I can do is all I can do ya know.

OMG when you were saying that, I was thinking, I DON'T want that on MY puter!  It's bad enough all the stuff we research as far as these true crime cases.  I have done court reporting work where I have had to look up spellings and stuff.  LE would think I have done everything under the sun if they searched my puter! 

Let me ask you a question.  I have done crime cases against children.  One time the acronym NAMBLA was used.  I looked it up at that point because I didn't know what it was, but I have never looked since.  How is something like that not shut down IMMEDIATELY???  (it may be shut down now, I just haven't looked)

Nope not shut down and they just recently added a woman's chapter...gross I know.  IDK how they stay around except that they are an International association and run out of a country that allows it. 

[JessStar]

Klaas, Traceygirl or Blink-I need to send you an email on a few things I found during a recent search of public documents and records.  I think you'll find the information interesting and very helpful.  I tried to send it to Klaas to the hotmail address he listed a few posts back, but it was bounced (is your mailbox full?). Anyway, Klaas, feel free to pass my email addy to Traceygirl and Blink. It's the email addy on my profile.

Thanks.

Might have misspelled it?  Happens all the time.

My email is smklaas@hotmail.com

I will forward to blink for you too.

Thanks! 

[pink angel]

BLOCKED WEBSITE

[Deenie]

Janet ... more Hinkey

Official website of Bryan Station - http://bryanstation.com/

http://www.spoke.com/info/c5ooA70/BryanStationBaptistChurch
Bryan Station Baptist Church
3175 Briar Hill Road
Lexington, KY 40516
Revenue:
    $0 - $1M in sales
Employees:
    1 - 50 employees
Companies like Bryan Station Baptist Church:
   Catholic Answers Inc
---------------------------------------------
this is from the church site that has been Pastored by the Harris Men- Connie Lawless family and Mentors of Pastor Lawless
http://www.alisalbaptistchurch.org/missions.php

MISSIONARY TO THE PHILIPPINES
Missionary:    Elder Brent Spears
Sponsoring Church:    Bryan Station Baptist Church
Contact Address:    Blk. 29 Lot 12 Area "S"
Maharlika St., Queens Row Subd.,
Molino, Bacoor, Cavite
Email:    misionarybks@pacific.net.ph

How do you get from being this little dinky church in KY and have over 200 churches follow you from around the world ..????
http://bryanstation.com/organized.htm
CHURCHES ORGANIZED BY THE BRYAN STATION BAPTIST CHURCH

[lady]

BLOCKED WEBSITE
[/quote]Thanks Pink angel...When I couldnt get the other one to work my hinky meter went up..But the new one you posted works..Ill use this address...just to be safe:)

[goodnmad]

ok, anyone who knows me knows I get stuck on one topic and won't let it go for a while ...

Did grandma actually say these exact words" psychotropic medication"? Or did she name the medicine and the newspaper for privacy reasons dubbed it psychotropic?

I can see someone saying anti-depressants or anti-anxiety meds but psychotropic??

Any thoughts?

[spring2]

Find it, document it and report it.
That's really all we can do.
Even when I left the isp, I still everyone once in a while would hunt a bit and find something and document it, then report it. I called the local FBI which at the time was in Dallas.

Since I was no longer in the loop of the isp, I never found out what happened.

It's a sticky situation now though with homeland security. I am fearful of finding it, capturing it and sending it to the fbi..because now I'm just a civilian person and I would have to have it at least temporarily on my machine to forward it. Which I absolutely do not want.

Mostly now it's torrents and traded from machine (server whatever) to machine. Which in my mind is MORE prosecutable..since it's not on an offshore server, it's on YOUR machine.
Lots of sites (torrent sites with web front ends) are hosting it but since it's not actually a place, instead it's like a collection of machines all over the world....whoever at any given time sets up their machine to serve...it's hard to legally tell them what to do. I know PirateBay is hosted off shore but they are not the hosters of any porn....it's whoever (in whatever country) who is serving up the pics or videos or whatever. And I don't know how internet saavy you are but it's not just one machine, it's thousands, possibly a million. It's like a mini internet inside the internet. Sort of
I'm not good at teaching.

Sites that we saw back in the day were located offshore (alot of gambling sites are not just for gambling) and they would be up for 2 days then disappear. So by the time the FBI gets a tip, investigates it, the site is gone. That's why documenting is important.

I'm no expert so there may be other more viable ways you can help but all I can do is all I can do ya know.

OMG when you were saying that, I was thinking, I DON'T want that on MY puter!  It's bad enough all the stuff we research as far as these true crime cases.  I have done court reporting work where I have had to look up spellings and stuff.  LE would think I have done everything under the sun if they searched my puter! 

Let me ask you a question.  I have done crime cases against children.  One time the acronym NAMBLA was used.  I looked it up at that point because I didn't know what it was, but I have never looked since.  How is something like that not shut down IMMEDIATELY???  (it may be shut down now, I just haven't looked)

Nope not shut down and they just recently added a woman's chapter...gross I know.  IDK how they stay around except that they are an International association and run out of a country that allows it. 

Lovely   

Can we not pack up our pedophiles and ship them to these idiotic countries then?????

[Deenie]

I remember was years ago that there was a XXX porn site that was on the News - warning for Parents. That if your child transposed/mispelled typing in the word Disney ..for the Kids Disney Site that It would open to a XXX porn site ..that would capture your IP address ..then you would get porn pop ups .. Nice Huh !

[Maven]

is there anyway that someone can post the who is who in this case..as in moms name,dads name,mh husband name. like the people who have been looked at thoughout sandra case. at least by people here..and the people that we think that should be looked at closer..i am just curious..

I'll try it may take me a while, but I'll give it a shot.

[4getUnot]

Janet ... more Hinkey

Official website of Bryan Station - http://bryanstation.com/

http://www.spoke.com/info/c5ooA70/BryanStationBaptistChurch
Bryan Station Baptist Church
3175 Briar Hill Road
Lexington, KY 40516
Revenue:
    $0 - $1M in sales
Employees:
    1 - 50 employees
Companies like Bryan Station Baptist Church:
   Catholic Answers Inc
---------------------------------------------
this is from the church site that has been Pastored by the Harris Men- Connie Lawless family and Mentors of Pastor Lawless
http://www.alisalbaptistchurch.org/missions.php

MISSIONARY TO THE PHILIPPINES
Missionary:    Elder Brent Spears
Sponsoring Church:    Bryan Station Baptist Church
Contact Address:    Blk. 29 Lot 12 Area "S"
Maharlika St., Queens Row Subd.,
Molino, Bacoor, Cavite
Email:    misionarybks@pacific.net.ph

How do you get from being this little dinky church in KY and have over 200 churches follow you from around the world ..????
http://bryanstation.com/organized.htm
CHURCHES ORGANIZED BY THE BRYAN STATION BAPTIST CHURCH

and more HINKEY did anyone notice under Ministries a Brother Jason Williams