Sandra Cantu #3 4/15/09 -4/27/09

[no rose colored glasses]

ok, anyone who knows me knows I get stuck on one topic and won't let it go for a while ...

Did grandma actually say these exact words" psychotropic medication"? Or did she name the medicine and the newspaper for privacy reasons dubbed it psychotropic?

I can see someone saying anti-depressants or anti-anxiety meds but psychotropic??

Any thoughts?

Your just like me, I get stuck on something and I won't let go.  Yes grandma said psychotropic medication, I thought it was odd, I would have said, anti depressants or anti anxiety. I don't remember what article it was in.

[FishstickKitty]

Please please don't think I am anywhere NEAR suggesting you go search for child pornography!! No no no!
I'm just blabbering when I should be working. I just know it's not hard to find and there needs to be more done to protect our kids.

As far as Nambla..they are not doing anything illegal. Having a website up saying whatever you want (I believe) is ok. They don't post links or photos or a boy man dating service. As perverted as they are, they have the right to say whatever. And I agree. I wouldn't want anything I say to be censored.

But ya know...I always say..all you can do is what you can do!

[fatcatlurker]

ok, anyone who knows me knows I get stuck on one topic and won't let it go for a while ...

Did grandma actually say these exact words" psychotropic medication"? Or did she name the medicine and the newspaper for privacy reasons dubbed it psychotropic?

I can see someone saying anti-depressants or anti-anxiety meds but psychotropic??

Any thoughts?

Your just like me, I get stuck on something and I won't let go.   Yes grandma said psychotropic medication, I thought it was odd, I would have said, anti depressants or anti anxiety. I don't remember what article it was in.

BLOCKED WEBSITE

[fatcatlurker]

Again another one suggesting she be prescribed these meds:http://**/ci_12145848

San Joaquin County Superior Court Judge Richard Vlavianos refused to rule on a gag order sought by Schwarzenberg. In a phone interview, Schwarzenberg said she also asked that Huckaby, a divorced single mother of a 5-year-old girl, be evaluated to determine whether she should be prescribed psychotropic medications

[Maven]

Hey monkeys!!

this is not a complete list but it's the basic who's who in this case, let me know if I've left some details/people out.

Maria Chavez -Sandra's Mother
Danny Cantu -Sandra's Father
Dolores Chavez -Sandra's Grandmother
Jose Chavez -Sandra's Grandfather
Angie Chavez - Sandra's Aunt
Joe Chavez -Sandra's Uncle
Thomas Fortin -Sandra's brother
Simone Chavez -Sandra's sister


Melissa Chantel Huckaby -accused of the kidnapping, rape, and murder of 8 year old Sandra Cantu
Melissa Suzanne Huckaby -mother of two, Sunday School Teacher and innocent woman who has been mistaken to be the other Melissa Huckaby

Frank Wohler- neighbor man who kissed Sandra on lips in swimming pool 2 years ago
Connie Lawless -neighbor- wife of pastor Lane Lawless - Melissa's grandmother
Lane Lawless -neighbor pastor of Clover Road Baptist Church - Melissa's grandfather
Brian Lawless- Melissa's Father
Judy Lawless -Melissa's Mother
Madison -Melissa's 5 year old daughter -friend of Sandra's
Brett Lawless -Melissa's uncle
Joni (Lawless) Hughes -Melissa's aunt

Christain Sinclair -neighbor arrested for obstructing police investigation 
David Slayter -neighbor says Sandra had been to his home several times
Fred Williams -member of Clover Road Baptist church who said that a suitcase was reported stolen the day Sandra disappeared

Jennifer Wadsworth -Tracy reporter - her interview helped catch Melissa Huckaby
Ellen Schwarzenberg -Public Defender representing Melissa Huckaby
Thomas Testa -Deputy District Attorney who will prosecute Melissa Huckaby

[fatcatlurker]

I'm out of media outlet news on psychotropic meds it appears her attorney suggested she be evaluated for them and prescribed them if neccessary and we suddenly had a rumor that she was on them?  IDK it looks like a rumor that got legs to me.

[k9ohana]

Hey monkeys!!

this is not a complete list but it's the basic who's who in this case, let me know if I've left some details/people out.

Maria Chavez -Sandra's Mother
Danny Cantu -Sandra's Father
Dolores Chavez -Sandra's Grandmother
Jose Chavez -Sandra's Grandfather
Angie Chavez - Sandra's Aunt
Joe Chavez -Sandra's Uncle
Thomas Fortin -Sandra's brother
Simone Chavez -Sandra's sister


Melissa Chantel Huckaby -accused of the kidnapping, rape, and murder of 8 year old Sandra Cantu
Melissa Suzanne Huckaby -mother of two, Sunday School Teacher and innocent woman who has been mistaken to be the other Melissa Huckaby

Frank Wohler- neighbor man who kissed Sandra on lips in swimming pool 2 years ago
Connie Lawless -neighbor- wife of pastor Lane Lawless - Melissa's grandmother
Lane Lawless -neighbor pastor of Clover Road Baptist Church - Melissa's grandfather
Brian Lawless- Melissa's Father
Judy Lawless -Melissa's Mother
Madison -Melissa's 5 year old daughter -friend of Sandra's
Brett Lawless -Melissa's uncle
Joni (Lawless) Hughes -Melissa's aunt

Christain Sinclair -neighbor arrested for obstructing police investigation 
David Slayter -neighbor says Sandra had been to his home several times
Fred Williams -member of Clover Road Baptist church who said that a suitcase was reported stolen the day Sandra disappeared

Jennifer Wadsworth -Tracy reporter - her interview helped catch Melissa Huckaby
Ellen Schwarzenberg -Public Defender representing Melissa Huckaby
Thomas Testa -Deputy District Attorney who will prosecute Melissa Huckaby

Nicely done Maven

[Deenie]

http://www.123people.com/ext/frm?ti=person%20finder&search_term=lane%20lawless&search_country=US&st=person%20finder&target_url=http%3A%2F%2Flrd.yahooapis.com%2F_ylc%3DX3oDMTVnZDJrbnI4BF9TAzIwMjMxNTI3MDIEYXBwaWQDc1k3Wlo2clYzNEhSZm5ZdGVmcmkzRUx4VG5makpERG5QOWVKV1NGSkJHcTJ1V1dFa0xVdm5IYnNBeUNyVkd5Y2REVElUX2tlBGNsaWVudANib3NzBHNlcnZpY2UDQk9TUwRzbGsDdGl0bGUEc3JjcHZpZAM0eDRHWTJLSWNycXpmVG93NC5VeXI1cDVXODV4bDBuYmFxUUFBaFNM%2FSIG%3D11oh4gq62%2F**http%253A%2F%2Fwww.gpp-5grace.com%2Fgpppdf~040504%2Fpp0408f.pdf

I hope that link works - Its a Church Newspaper 
page one snipped -
In 2007 Bryan Station Baptist Church of
Lexington, KY, published a book entitled Great
Commission Credentials
and On page 12 - last page it says
TO DATE THIS IS BRO.
CAMP’S SCHEDULE WHILE
IN THE STATES
If your church is not on this list and you would
like for me to come, please contact me. I will
have the same e-mail addresses when I get
back to the states that I have now.

1. 3/7/-3/9/2008 Bible Conference, Central
Baptist Church, Grenada, MS, Pastor Bill
Lee
2. 3/16/2008 Preach at Central, Grenada, MS

3. 3/19-3/21/2008 Bible Conference, Alisal
Baptist Church, Alisal, CA, Pastor
DeWayne Harris, Pastor
this is the Bible Conference that is in the Youtube Video - with the Lawless attending
Harris is related to Connie - her brother or Uncle ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGzpNLYOLMg

4. 3/22/2008 LMBC, Greenfield, CA, Bro.
Pastor Gene Plaskett

5. 3/23/2008 (Both Services) Tracy Baptist
Church, Tracy, CA, Pastor Lane Lawless
3/24/-3/25/2008
Was there a Conference on these Dates at Tracy Baptist Church aka Clover Road
--------------------------------
the pdf file continues with the Bible conference calender and dates ..page 12

[pink angel]

Connie Lawless, in a phone interview after the hearing, described her granddaughter as a sweet person. Huckaby told family members during jailhouse visits that she is innocent. The charges put the family in a state of shock, Lawless said.

"This is totally out of character for our granddaughter," she said. "She is a woman who never raised a hand to a child, never raised a voice."

She said she does not believe her granddaughter could have committed the crime, unless "some freakish thing happened."

She said her granddaughter had been taking some psychotropic medication, and that she had no criminal history aside from a shoplifting.

Connie Lawless, in a phone interview after the hearing, described her granddaughter as a sweet person. Huckaby told family members during jailhouse visits that she is innocent. The charges put the family in a state of shock, Lawless said.

"This is totally out of character for our granddaughter," she said. "She is a woman who never raised a hand to a child, never raised a voice."

She said she does not believe her granddaughter could have committed the crime, unless "some freakish thing happened."

She said her granddaughter had been taking some psychotropic medication, and that she had no criminal history aside from a shoplifting.

[pink angel]

what a weird post!

I didn't mean to double up and it did and it didn't post the link! LOL

Sorry monkeys.

http://www.recordnet.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090415/A_NEWS/904150329

[klaasend]

http://www.carmichaelbaptist.org/news.htm



(From Left to right)
Brother Jason Williams - Alisal Baptist Church, Salinas, CA
Pastor T. P. Crawford - Landmark Missionary Baptist Church, Hayward, CA
Pastor Michael Carling - Free Grace Baptist Church, Yuba City, CA
Brother Joey Jaco - Friendship Missionary Baptist Church, Sacramento, CA
Pastor James McDowell - Heritage Baptist Church, Elk Grove, CA
Elder Arthur Mellon - Clover Road Baptist Church, Tracy, CA
Pastor Chris Silvey - Friendship Missionary Baptist Church, Sacramento, CA
Pastor Royce Smith - Bethel Baptist Church, Choctaw, OK
Pastor William L. Brown, Carmichael Baptist Church, Carmichael, CA
Pastor Dewayne Harris - Salisal Baptist Church, Salinas, CA
Brother John Bunyun Crawford, Grants Pass, OR
Elder Wayne Camp - Central Baptist Church, Grenada, MS
Pastor Dennis Riddick, Twinbrook Hills Baptist Church, Hamilton, OH
Pastor Paul Little, Cool Baptist Church, Cool, CA
Pastor Gene Plaskett, Greenfield Baptist Church, Greenfield, CA
Pastor Frank McClanahan - Meadow Thorpe Baptist Church, Lexington, KY
Pastor Dean Robinson - Bethel Baptist Church, Lawton, OK
Pastor Lane Lawless, Clover Road Baptist Church, Tracy, CA
Pastor J. C. Settlemoir - New Testament Baptist Church, Brownsburg, IN
Pastor Bill Downing - Sovereign Grace Baptist Church, Morgan Hill, CA
Pastor Larry Banks - Fellowship Baptist Church, Winslow, AR
Pastor John Vondoloski - Liberty Baptist Church, Medford, OR
Pastor Don Akins, Moreno Valley Baptist Church, Moreno Valley, CA

 
   

[Deenie]

Please please don't think I am anywhere NEAR suggesting you go search for child pornography!! No no no!
I'm just blabbering when I should be working. I just know it's not hard to find and there needs to be more done to protect our kids.

As far as Nambla..they are not doing anything illegal. Having a website up saying whatever you want (I believe) is ok. They don't post links or photos or a boy man dating service. As perverted as they are, they have the right to say whatever. And I agree. I wouldn't want anything I say to be censored.

But ya know...I always say..all you can do is what you can do!

NoFishKitty ..maybe you grabbed that by glancing at a post I made. That there was once a porn site that used the word Disney spelled wrong - and It was alerted to parents - that Your child may accidentally find themselves in this site.

[fatcatlurker]

Found it -- psychotropic meds statement by grandmother (probably after lawyer suggested it at hearing ---IMO)

Connie Lawless, in a phone interview after the hearing, described her granddaughter as a sweet person. Huckaby told family members during jailhouse visits that she is innocent. The charges put the family in a state of shock, Lawless said.

"This is totally out of character for our granddaughter," she said. "She is a woman who never raised a hand to a child, never raised a voice."

She said she does not believe her granddaughter could have committed the crime, unless "some freakish thing happened."

She said her granddaughter had been taking some psychotropic medication, and that she had no criminal history aside from a shoplifting.

READ the link and tell me what you think - Is Connie Lawless -- Cindy Antonthy?
http://www.recordnet.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090415/A_NEWS/904150329

[fatcatlurker]

what a weird post!

I didn't mean to double up and it did and it didn't post the link! LOL

Sorry monkeys.

http://www.recordnet.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090415/A_NEWS/904150329

Thank you pink angel and I doubled you - darn --

[Deenie]

http://www.carmichaelbaptist.org/news.htm



(From Left to right)
Brother Jason Williams - Alisal Baptist Church, Salinas, CA
Pastor T. P. Crawford - Landmark Missionary Baptist Church, Hayward, CA
Pastor Michael Carling - Free Grace Baptist Church, Yuba City, CA
Brother Joey Jaco - Friendship Missionary Baptist Church, Sacramento, CA
Pastor James McDowell - Heritage Baptist Church, Elk Grove, CA
Elder Arthur Mellon - Clover Road Baptist Church, Tracy, CA
Pastor Chris Silvey - Friendship Missionary Baptist Church, Sacramento, CA
Pastor Royce Smith - Bethel Baptist Church, Choctaw, OK
Pastor William L. Brown, Carmichael Baptist Church, Carmichael, CA
Pastor Dewayne Harris - Salisal Baptist Church, Salinas, CA
Brother John Bunyun Crawford, Grants Pass, OR
Elder Wayne Camp - Central Baptist Church, Grenada, MS
Pastor Dennis Riddick, Twinbrook Hills Baptist Church, Hamilton, OH
Pastor Paul Little, Cool Baptist Church, Cool, CA
Pastor Gene Plaskett, Greenfield Baptist Church, Greenfield, CA
Pastor Frank McClanahan - Meadow Thorpe Baptist Church, Lexington, KY
Pastor Dean Robinson - Bethel Baptist Church, Lawton, OK
Pastor Lane Lawless, Clover Road Baptist Church, Tracy, CA
Pastor J. C. Settlemoir - New Testament Baptist Church, Brownsburg, IN
Pastor Bill Downing - Sovereign Grace Baptist Church, Morgan Hill, CA
Pastor Larry Banks - Fellowship Baptist Church, Winslow, AR
Pastor John Vondoloski - Liberty Baptist Church, Medford, OR
Pastor Don Akins, Moreno Valley Baptist Church, Moreno Valley, CA

The Church Newspaper that is the PDF is written by Elder Wayne Camp
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[fatcatlurker]

Good job Maven thank you!

[Deenie]

Church Newsletter -

http://lrd.yahooapis.com/_ylc=X3oDMTVnZDJrbnI4BF9TAzIwMjMxNTI3MDIEYXBwaWQDc1k3Wlo2clYzNEhSZm5ZdGVmcmkzRUx4VG5makpERG5QOWVKV1NGSkJHcTJ1V1dFa0xVdm5IYnNBeUNyVkd5Y2REVElUX2tlBGNsaWVudANib3NzBHNlcnZpY2UDQk9TUwRzbGsDdGl0bGUEc3JjcHZpZAM0eDRHWTJLSWNycXpmVG93NC5VeXI1cDVXODV4bDBuYmFxUUFBaFNM/SIG=11oh4gq62/**http%3A//www.gpp-5grace.com/gpppdf~040504/pp0408f.pdf

[fatcatlurker]

ok I say on the psychotropic meds it is a set up for the insanity plea for MH and Gramma Connie added to it further by saying she was on them, but how is that gonna fly when she apparently just passed a mental eval for the court for the prior theft charge?  It will be interesting anyway.

[MuffyBee]

ok, anyone who knows me knows I get stuck on one topic and won't let it go for a while ...

Did grandma actually say these exact words" psychotropic medication"? Or did she name the medicine and the newspaper for privacy reasons dubbed it psychotropic?

I can see someone saying anti-depressants or anti-anxiety meds but psychotropic??

Any thoughts?

What are Psychotropic Drugs?

http://www.wisegeek.com/what-are-psychotropic-drugs.htm

Psychotropic drugs, sometimes also called psychoactive, affect the central nervous system, and can cause a variety of changes in behavior or perception. Many think psychotropic drugs are only of the illegal variety, like the psychedelic drugs frequently used in the late 1960s, such as acid, LSD, angel dust, and marijuana. However, even something as relatively benign as caffeine is considered one of many psychotropic drugs.

Psychotropic drugs have different uses and are broken into four major groups: hallucinogens, antipsychotics, depressants and stimulants. Types often cross into other categories as they produce more than one type of effect. Marijuana, for example is considered a depressant, stimulant and hallucinogen.

Marijuana has many applications in medicine and may be helpful to some patients with AIDS or cancer. Since marijuana can control nausea and promote appetite, as well as reduce pain, it can be helpful for those experiencing intense suffering. However, stigma associated with illegal marijuana use by hippies has stalled legalization, or limited access to the drug for medicinal purposes for many.

Another of the psychotropic drugs frequently in use is alcohol, a depressant. It can impair mood, causing either elation or depression, and impairs ability to think clearly or make rational decisions. Supporters for legalization of marijuana often point to the oft-used and readily available alcohol that is considered far more toxic, potentially impairing and dangerous, as well as addictive, compared to marijuana.

Other psychotropic drugs effecting mood include antidepressants, antipsychotics, mood stabilizers and tranquilizers. The various effects of these psychotropic drugs are considered vital to the practice of psychiatry. Antidepressants like Prozac®, and Zoloft® may help reduce depression or anxiety. They can however, provoke anxiety as they are of the stimulant type. Tranquilizers, which are of the depressant class, may be more effective for severe anxiety. Mood stabilizers may either be of the stimulant or antipsychotic class and can help people with bipolar conditions. Anti-psychotics are often used to treat schizophrenia.

Some psychotropic drugs can foster addiction, with many belonging to either the stimulant or depressant classes. For example, many depressants like morphine are used to alleviate symptoms of pain. Morphine is addictive, and is derived from opium, from which heroin is also derived. Most receiving morphine also note hallucinatory episodes when given high doses of morphine, and long term use of morphine can cause difficulties in withdrawing from the medication.

Stimulants, which can range from caffeine, to Ritalin, to illegal medications like crystal meth, crank and cocaine also can be addictive. For example, coffee drinkers may notice extreme headaches if they skip a day of drinking coffee. The headache can be severe but tends to resolve in a day or two. Nicotine is a highly addictive stimulant, though most people believe it has a relaxing effect. Addiction to cocaine is almost assured after consistent use over several weeks. As well, children who take Ritalin can become dependent upon the medication and have a difficult time weaning off of it as adults.

The action of psychotropic drugs is not always clearly understood. For example, researchers assume some antidepressants increase the levels of serotonin in the brain. This is theory, and those using the medications seem to benefit. However, it is not proof, and little explanation exists for those who have opposite reactions to medications used to elevate mood. As well, nicotine is thought to both relax and stimulate, another unclear reaction.

[Blink34]

what bothers me about Pastor Lawless is all his aliases.  I mean why does one need so many I've made it almost 40 yrs with only 2 he has like 6? I think.  Sounds like somebody trying to hide something to me.

Anybody else still getting bumped out of SM site?  I am.

Actually Edward, that is not that uncommon when someone goes by their middle name vs. their first. Its really just combos of the same name. Most of that data is mailing list generated and not "real data" the only way to cross ref it is through a Govt agency like SSI, or well, others you would not want to be on

Now, If I look at his data, name combos, etc, and see a bunch of names but all with the same initials going to the same addresses, I get nervous. That's hinky to me.
As far as pastor goes, I am way more concerned that nobody can find diddly on him since prior to 1960, and then there's the church with no members and murdering pedo grandaughter and all.B
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