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« Reply #420 on: April 16, 2009, 03:18:18 PM »

well arn't we special .......... Dana Carvey .. Church Lady ...  

Website of the Man who writes the Church Newsletter Wayne Camp and Bill Lee
http://www.gpp-5grace.com/
They have a Mission Statement and Warning on the front page of their site -
WARNING: This site contains Scripturally explicit materials and may prove to be offensive for any who do not believe the Bible to be the only and all-sufficient rule of faith and practice for God's people. Enter knowing that you may be surprised or even shocked at what God says about such subjects as:

http://www.gpp-5grace.com/links.htm
their affiliate churches - No mention of Lawless
everyone else from the list Klaas posted is there though
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« Reply #421 on: April 16, 2009, 03:20:57 PM »

One of the questions that I feel really should be answered by the Tracy PD, is months ago when Melissa was questioned about drugging of a child, where did this investigation go? Did they just question her, and drop it? Did the parents pursue this further?

Good questions! I would like to know the answers also. Did they dismiss it? Did they follow up? What happened with that? Is the child OK? Who are the parents? If they did not pursue, why not?  Very good questions NRCG!!!
I'm just wondering if more would have been done, maybe Sandra would be alive, but maybe that is just naive of me.

I think I am naive too, because I think if more would have been done after the first report of  "drugging of a child" by MH, we wouldn't even be here discussing this horrible crime.

What reason could one have to drug another human..... child or adult?

This has been weighing heavily on my mind as well (clearly puzzling to so many of us as it has been brought up numerous times); when I first read about the other drugging incident, quite honestly, I thought that it had to be just ugly rumor -SURELY that would not go unresolved by LE. Now that it appears to be proven true, the ONLY scenario that I can come up with that makes ANY sense at all is that LE was unable to prove that the drug came from MH. They had been at a public park, the child could not say who gave it to her (ie: could have been incorporated into the 'koolaid' or whatever the kids had for snack...) I just can't postulate any other reason that LE would let this go . . . I am certainly open to other suggestions. (Rephrase that: HELP PLEASE!) Surely now it seems very disturbing that this is just hanging out there . . .
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« Reply #422 on: April 16, 2009, 03:21:05 PM »

what bothers me about Pastor Lawless is all his aliases.  I mean why does one need so many I've made it almost 40 yrs with only 2 he has like 6? I think.  Sounds like somebody trying to hide something to me.

Anybody else still getting bumped out of SM site?  I am.

Actually Edward, that is not that uncommon when someone goes by their middle name vs. their first. Its really just combos of the same name. Most of that data is mailing list generated and not "real data" the only way to cross ref it is through a Govt agency like SSI, or well, others you would not want to be on Smile

Now, If I look at his data, name combos, etc, and see a bunch of names but all with the same initials going to the same addresses, I get nervous. That's hinky to me.
As far as pastor goes, I am way more concerned that nobody can find diddly on him since prior to 1960, and then there's the church with no members and murdering pedo grandaughter and all.B
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Scroll up Blink and read my post that it says in a Church mailed newsletter that Lawless was to have a Bible Conf at his church on 3 dates just prior to Sandra ..missing.
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« Reply #423 on: April 16, 2009, 03:23:54 PM »

Found it -- psychotropic meds statement by grandmother (probably after lawyer suggested it at hearing ---IMO)

Connie Lawless, in a phone interview after the hearing, described her granddaughter as a sweet person. Huckaby told family members during jailhouse visits that she is innocent. The charges put the family in a state of shock, Lawless said.

"This is totally out of character for our granddaughter," she said. "She is a woman who never raised a hand to a child, never raised a voice."

She said she does not believe her granddaughter could have committed the crime, unless "some freakish thing happened."

She said her granddaughter had been taking some psychotropic medication, and that she had no criminal history aside from a shoplifting.

READ the link and tell me what you think - Is Connie Lawless -- Cindy Antonthy?
http://www.recordnet.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090415/A_NEWS/904150329

It isn't in quotation makrs. So in other words, she didn't necessarily use those exact words. She could have said "Melissa was taking Haldol." 

Prob nothing, but just made me wonder ....

Thanks for investigating 

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« Reply #424 on: April 16, 2009, 03:28:18 PM »

One of the questions that I feel really should be answered by the Tracy PD, is months ago when Melissa was questioned about drugging of a child, where did this investigation go? Did they just question her, and drop it? Did the parents pursue this further?

Good questions! I would like to know the answers also. Did they dismiss it? Did they follow up? What happened with that? Is the child OK? Who are the parents? If they did not pursue, why not?  Very good questions NRCG!!!
I'm just wondering if more would have been done, maybe Sandra would be alive, but maybe that is just naive of me.

I think I am naive too, because I think if more would have been done after the first report of  "drugging of a child" by MH, we wouldn't even be here discussing this horrible crime.

What reason could one have to drug another human..... child or adult?

This has been weighing heavily on my mind as well (clearly puzzling to so many of us as it has been brought up numerous times); when I first read about the other drugging incident, quite honestly, I thought that it had to be just ugly rumor -SURELY that would not go unresolved by LE. Now that it appears to be proven true, the ONLY scenario that I can come up with that makes ANY sense at all is that LE was unable to prove that the drug came from MH. They had been at a public park, the child could not say who gave it to her (ie: could have been incorporated into the 'koolaid' or whatever the kids had for snack...) I just can't postulate any other reason that LE would let this go . . . I am certainly open to other suggestions. (Rephrase that: HELP PLEASE!) Surely now it seems very disturbing that this is just hanging out there . . .

Is this confirmed? I watched JVM last night - she said CNN could not confirm but played a clip from (KCRO??) that reported the drugging.

Yes, this would be disturbing certainly. But we know many times crimes go unreported or unpunished. Sadly.



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« Reply #425 on: April 16, 2009, 03:32:43 PM »

http://www.uhs.umich.edu/ghbrohypnol

GHB and Rohypnol aka date rape drug
GHB comes in liquid or powder form
What happens: Intoxication and sedation occur within 20 minutes after ingestion, lasting for a few hours. There can be memory loss, confusion, vomiting, visual changes, coma, respiratory arrest and death.

Rohypnol

    * Rohypnol is odorless and tasteless when dissolved into any kind of drink (alcoholic or non-alcoholic).
    * It's addictive.
    * When combined with alcohol, use of Rohypnol can lead to respiratory depression and death.
Testing: Rohypnol in moderately high doses (2 mg. or more) is traceable in urine up to 72 hours after ingestion. GHB is flushed from the body more quickly. The first urine after ingestion will wash it away. If you suspect being drugged, avoid urination or save urine (refrigerate or freeze it) and go to a hospital emergency room to get tested.

The law: Michigan has classified GHB and Rohypnol as Schedule I controlled substances (like heroin). The penalties for use, possession and delivery are stiff and include fines and imprisonment. Sexual assault is a felony carrying penalties up to life in prison. Additionally, it is a federal offense to give someone a controlled substance with the intent to commit a sexual assault or other violent crime.
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« Reply #426 on: April 16, 2009, 03:34:33 PM »

AMBER ALERT!!!!!

SAN LEANDRO, CA - Alameda County deputies have issued a statewide Amber Alert involving a 22-month old-toddler. Deputies say a man armed with a knife abducted the child from her mother.

The alert went out after Luis Meza Valdiva, 26, reportedly took his daughter Yosseline Carolina Meza and her mother from a home in San Leandro.

Valdiva was described as a Hispanic man with brown hair and brown eyes, around 5 feet 8 inches tall and weighing about 160 pounds. He was last seen driving a white, 1992 four-door Toyota Tercel in the city of Turlock in Stanislaus County.

The Tercel's California license plate number is 5GBD911. The suspect was last seen driving on Highway 99 in central California and may be headed toward Mexico.

Call 911 or the Alameda County Sheriff's Department at (510) 667-7721 to report any information.


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Authorities have issued an Amber Alert in connection with the suspected abduction of a 22-month-old girl by a man in the Turlock area in Stanislaus County.

Luis Meza Valdiva, 26, drove the child and her mother from San Leandro to Turlock and then pulled a knife on the mother and told her she would never see the girl again, according to a report from the California Highway Patrol.

Valdiva, who may be enroute to Mexico, is suspected to be driving a white, 1992 four-door Toyota Tercel, with the California license plate 5GBD911, according to the CHP. Valdiva was described as a Hispanic male, 160 pounds, 5 feet, 8 inches tall, with brown hair and brown eyes.

The girl, Yosseline Carolina Meza, has brown hair, brown eyes, and was last seen wearing a white, long-sleeve t-shirt and beige sweatpants, according to the CHP.

The CHP did not say whether Valdiva and the child were related.

Sightings of anyone described in this report, or of the vehicle can be reported by calling 911.

A previous version of this article used a CHP description of Valdiva's vehicle as a Toyota Camry. The CHP issued a second report this morning correcting that description to a Tercel.


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« Reply #427 on: April 16, 2009, 03:54:02 PM »

Sandra's Memorial has started the Live Feed

http://www.news10.net/news/liveonline/
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« Reply #428 on: April 16, 2009, 03:57:07 PM »


As if our hinky meters couldn't GET any higher... here ya go: 

According to his bio, Pastor Lawless was 'saved', baptized, and married all on the same day, with his FIL doing all the ceremonies.  That was on July 9, 1960 in Wenatchee, WA.  Ok so far.. Until one looks up Wenatchee, WA and finds this:

"The town of Wenatchee, WA. made world headlines in 1994 and 1995 when police and state social workers undertook what was then called the nation's most extensive child sex-abuse investigation."

more at this link:
http://www.seattlepi.com/powertoharm/

coinkydink?? 

  

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« Reply #429 on: April 16, 2009, 04:00:23 PM »

People arriving for the Memorial now:

http://www.news10.net/news/liveonline/
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« Reply #430 on: April 16, 2009, 04:01:35 PM »

Re: post on page 16 from 4getUnot:

Welcome to the monkey cage! It is a very welcoming place to we newbies, filled with thoughtful intelligent posters, isn't it?

You bring up numerous VERY interesting thoughts/ideas regarding the suitcase, I must say; will definitely be pondering your questions/theories as I read on. . . Thanks for the food for thought!
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« Reply #431 on: April 16, 2009, 04:02:33 PM »



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« Reply #432 on: April 16, 2009, 04:03:52 PM »

It's  really filling up.

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« Reply #433 on: April 16, 2009, 04:03:54 PM »


As if our hinky meters couldn't GET any higher... here ya go: 

According to his bio, Pastor Lawless was 'saved', baptized, and married all on the same day, with his FIL doing all the ceremonies.  That was on July 9, 1960 in Wenatchee, WA.  Ok so far.. Until one looks up Wenatchee, WA and finds this:

"The town of Wenatchee, WA. made world headlines in 1994 and 1995 when police and state social workers undertook what was then called the nation's most extensive child sex-abuse investigation."

more at this link:
http://www.seattlepi.com/powertoharm/

coinkydink?? 

  


http://www.alisalbaptistchurch.org/pastor.php
Elder Arthur DeWayne Harris was saved and baptized at the age of nine, and entered the ministry when he was 18 years of age. Ordained by the Douglas Street Missionary Baptist Church of Omak, Washington, he began his pastorate work in May, 1963.

Driving directions to Omak, WA to Wenatchee
95.7 mi – about 1 hour 54 mins
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« Reply #434 on: April 16, 2009, 04:04:03 PM »

http://t.love.com/204407804

I think I stumbled on the actual charges against Melissa Huckaby if anyone wants to look, I don't know if it's been posted before?  Just 3 pages of 14?
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« Reply #435 on: April 16, 2009, 04:05:42 PM »

Sandra's Memorial has started the Live Feed

http://www.news10.net/news/liveonline/
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« Reply #436 on: April 16, 2009, 04:06:24 PM »

People arriving for the Memorial now:

http://www.news10.net/news/liveonline/

Does anyone know if Sandra's family is going to be there?
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« Reply #437 on: April 16, 2009, 04:08:20 PM »


As if our hinky meters couldn't GET any higher... here ya go: 

According to his bio, Pastor Lawless was 'saved', baptized, and married all on the same day, with his FIL doing all the ceremonies.  That was on July 9, 1960 in Wenatchee, WA.  Ok so far.. Until one looks up Wenatchee, WA and finds this:

"The town of Wenatchee, WA. made world headlines in 1994 and 1995 when police and state social workers undertook what was then called the nation's most extensive child sex-abuse investigation."

more at this link:
http://www.seattlepi.com/powertoharm/

coinkydink?? 

  


  What does saved mean? Was his life on the skids, and then he found this church? And then his life became better.
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« Reply #438 on: April 16, 2009, 04:08:59 PM »

Locals in the chat, say on the local channels they are still showing people lined up for "miles" outside.
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« Reply #439 on: April 16, 2009, 04:09:41 PM »

http://t.love.com/204407804

I think I stumbled on the actual charges against Melissa Huckaby if anyone wants to look, I don't know if it's been posted before?  Just 3 pages of 14?
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