Sandra Cantu #3 4/15/09 -4/27/09

[4getUnot]

Don't know if you find this interesting but I do and especially since it is in regards to Pastor Lane Lawless -

http://www.eyesforlies.blogspot.com/2009/04/pastor-lane-lawless-video.html

I apologize in advance if it has already been posted but I don't recall seeing it here.

[Blink34]

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-huckaby13-2009apr13,0,6408687.story
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Madison Huckaby - 5 yr old daughter of MH

According to both families, Huckaby's daughter become good friends with Sandra, and the two played together often. Madison left on a pre-arranged vacation with family members shortly after her friend disappeared, relatives said.

Planned after Sandra went missing and they sniffed it back to Huckaby, I dont give a rats bippy what they say. They knew this was coming and wanted her out there, period.
B

On the motion to (in essence) to exhume Sandra, no way that will happen. The Tox results arent back yet so a full autopsy result isnt even available to the defense yet.. Lastly, I am discouraged if the aggravating circumstance charge as to the "raped by instrument" charge if only alleged by genital trauma and nothing else. The way the motion was worded makes me think it may be. I have no doubt that this precious child was raped, but if the charge was only based on the physical exam, someone is going to have to explain to me how they are so sure there was no man involved here.

I feel the same way

can you explain why it concerns you?

I wrote this post and deleted it 3 different times I fear it is too graphic, but I'll keep trying.

Loosely asked, I am hopeful they can tell there was a foreign instrument vs. other based on direct evidence of same, not just because they know there was penetration and that would be a physical impossibility on the part of Huckaby and absent other suspects. Admittedly, I believe there is another's involvement and that tempers my concerns. Not that I find it exculpatory in any way whatsoever, I just want everyone involved caught and prosecuted.
B

[no rose colored glasses]

Don't know if you find this interesting but I do and especially since it is in regards to Pastor Lane Lawless -

http://www.eyesforlies.blogspot.com/2009/04/pastor-lane-lawless-video.html

I apologize in advance if it has already been posted but I don't recall seeing it here.

Thanks 

[Wyks]

Don't know if you find this interesting but I do and especially since it is in regards to Pastor Lane Lawless -

http://www.eyesforlies.blogspot.com/2009/04/pastor-lane-lawless-video.html

I apologize in advance if it has already been posted but I don't recall seeing it here.

Thanks 4getUnot, I find it interesting too! 

[Catbert]

This is interesting >>>>>

Transcripts shed light on Melissa Huckaby's mental health (3:54 p.m.)
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By The Record
April 17, 2009 6:54 PM
STOCKTON – Melissa Huckaby told her mental health worker she was doing “very, very well” less than three weeks before allegedly murdering 8-year-old Sandra Cantu, say court transcripts The Record obtained today.

Huckaby’s apparent progress in the mental health program abruptly ended when she missed an April 3 hearing before San Joaquin County Superior Court Judge Richard Vlavianos. By then, Sandra had vanished.

In Huckaby’s last appearance in mental health court on March 6, her counselor reported that Huckaby told her “she’s doing great.”

“You know, we really work on some deep, prudent issues,” San Joaquin County mental health worker Margie Valdez told the judge. “She really participates with everything, and that’s really good for her. I want to see her come back in a month.”

The transcript and public court records do not reveal Huckaby’s mental disorder. Two court-appointed doctors had agreed on her mental illness. She came into the court system for an arrest on Nov. 3 for a petty theft with a prior from a Tracy Target store.

Read Saturday’s Record for more on this story by staff writer Scott Smith.

http://www.recordnet.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090417/A_NEWS/90417009

 

[Catbert]

Don't know if you find this interesting but I do and especially since it is in regards to Pastor Lane Lawless -

http://www.eyesforlies.blogspot.com/2009/04/pastor-lane-lawless-video.html

I apologize in advance if it has already been posted but I don't recall seeing it here.

Thanks 4getUnot, I find it interesting too! 

me 3 - thanks

[JessStar]

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-huckaby13-2009apr13,0,6408687.story
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Madison Huckaby - 5 yr old daughter of MH

According to both families, Huckaby's daughter become good friends with Sandra, and the two played together often. Madison left on a pre-arranged vacation with family members shortly after her friend disappeared, relatives said.

Planned after Sandra went missing and they sniffed it back to Huckaby, I dont give a rats bippy what they say. They knew this was coming and wanted her out there, period.
B

On the motion to (in essence) to exhume Sandra, no way that will happen. The Tox results arent back yet so a full autopsy result isnt even available to the defense yet.. Lastly, I am discouraged if the aggravating circumstance charge as to the "raped by instrument" charge if only alleged by genital trauma and nothing else. The way the motion was worded makes me think it may be. I have no doubt that this precious child was raped, but if the charge was only based on the physical exam, someone is going to have to explain to me how they are so sure there was no man involved here.

I feel the same way

can you explain why it concerns you?

I wrote this post and deleted it 3 different times I fear it is too graphic, but I'll keep trying.

Loosely asked, I am hopeful they can tell there was a foreign instrument vs. other based on direct evidence of same, not just because they know there was penetration and that would be a physical impossibility on the part of Huckaby and absent other suspects. Admittedly, I believe there is another's involvement and that tempers my concerns. Not that I find it exculpatory in any way whatsoever, I just want everyone involved caught and prosecuted.
B

I understand completely.  I don't want to hear a graphic explanation.   

[Tracygirl]

Don't know if you find this interesting but I do and especially since it is in regards to Pastor Lane Lawless -

http://www.eyesforlies.blogspot.com/2009/04/pastor-lane-lawless-video.html

I apologize in advance if it has already been posted but I don't recall seeing it here.

Thanks 4getUnot, I find it interesting too! 

me 3 - thanks

Now again I listen to him and watch him and I fear he has some kind of demensia, does anyone else see that? In the beginning stages it doesn't come and go, but it shows more sometimes then others.

Blink, that is a good point.

[Blink34]

Don't know if you find this interesting but I do and especially since it is in regards to Pastor Lane Lawless -

http://www.eyesforlies.blogspot.com/2009/04/pastor-lane-lawless-video.html

I apologize in advance if it has already been posted but I don't recall seeing it here.

I strongly agree with that author's preliminary opinions. Moreover, I would like to see her comment on the initial video where Connie and Lane are in the van and Connie is answering questions. If you focus solely on Lane in the passenger seat, it is telling, imo
B

[momoftwins]

Don't know if you find this interesting but I do and especially since it is in regards to Pastor Lane Lawless -

http://www.eyesforlies.blogspot.com/2009/04/pastor-lane-lawless-video.html

I apologize in advance if it has already been posted but I don't recall seeing it here.

I strongly agree with that author's preliminary opinions. Moreover, I would like to see her comment on the initial video where Connie and Lane are in the van and Connie is answering questions. If you focus solely on Lane in the passenger seat, it is telling, imo
B
Thanks Blink for posting that.  I missed it when I was reading about her thoughts on MH.  I think Eyes is honest, and I believe everything she says.  Thanks again. 

[momoftwins]

Blink
If you email Eyes @ her site where it says contact, she may review that video (Connie ) for you if you provide her with a link.  I've asked her to check things out, and asked her opinions privately on different issues.  She always found time to respond.

[FishstickKitty]

It doesn't surprise me at all. I think the mythos that child predators are all these greasy scary looking guys or dark hooded figures is bunk. They are our neighbors, relatives and friends. I think the creepy scary ones get press...the normal guy next door doesn't? I don't know but it's rampant.

As far as the defense exhuming the body of Sandra. I think if they need to they should. I don't think they need the parents permission as it's not the parents that are charging Hucakby. I think when yer dead, yer dead so it won't hurt her anymore. It may hurt us but we can't forget those 2 pesky little critters...constitution and bill of rights. So do it, get it over with, put her back and go ahead.

Makes me glad I don't have kids. Keeping my idiot dogs safe is stressful enough. 

O/T

Another "minister" charged with taping teen boys in sex acts.. Hillsborough County, FL.   

  It is really hard to comprehend all of this.

[no rose colored glasses]

Thought this was interesting, from Marcia Clark.  http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2009-04-16/huckabys-crazy-defense/

[AZSunny]

Don't know if you find this interesting but I do and especially since it is in regards to Pastor Lane Lawless -

http://www.eyesforlies.blogspot.com/2009/04/pastor-lane-lawless-video.html

I apologize in advance if it has already been posted but I don't recall seeing it here.

It appears to me that Pastor Lawless is hard of hearing, and repeats things to make sure he understands what is being asked.  He may also have had a mild stroke.   I really don't read anymore into his responses.

[ChihuahuaMom]

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-huckaby13-2009apr13,0,6408687.story
snipped
Madison Huckaby - 5 yr old daughter of MH

According to both families, Huckaby's daughter become good friends with Sandra, and the two played together often. Madison left on a pre-arranged vacation with family members shortly after her friend disappeared, relatives said.

Planned after Sandra went missing and they sniffed it back to Huckaby, I dont give a rats bippy what they say. They knew this was coming and wanted her out there, period.
B

On the motion to (in essence) to exhume Sandra, no way that will happen. The Tox results arent back yet so a full autopsy result isnt even available to the defense yet.. Lastly, I am discouraged if the aggravating circumstance charge as to the "raped by instrument" charge if only alleged by genital trauma and nothing else. The way the motion was worded makes me think it may be. I have no doubt that this precious child was raped, but if the charge was only based on the physical exam, someone is going to have to explain to me how they are so sure there was no man involved here.

I feel the same way

can you explain why it concerns you?

I wrote this post and deleted it 3 different times I fear it is too graphic, but I'll keep trying.

Loosely asked, I am hopeful they can tell there was a foreign instrument vs. other based on direct evidence of same, not just because they know there was penetration and that would be a physical impossibility on the part of Huckaby and absent other suspects. Admittedly, I believe there is another's involvement and that tempers my concerns. Not that I find it exculpatory in any way whatsoever, I just want everyone involved caught and prosecuted.
B

ITA I too think someone else is involved....

ok, without being too graphic, can LE tell if Sandra was sexual assulted before her death? In other words.....could LE tell if Sandra was sexually assulted multi times before her death? Like scaring or taring?............sorry to be so graphic but perhaps this wasn't the first time Sandra was MH's victim?

[leslee]

Don't know if you find this interesting but I do and especially since it is in regards to Pastor Lane Lawless -

http://www.eyesforlies.blogspot.com/2009/04/pastor-lane-lawless-video.html

I apologize in advance if it has already been posted but I don't recall seeing it here.

I strongly agree with that author's preliminary opinions. Moreover, I would like to see her comment on the initial video where Connie and Lane are in the van and Connie is answering questions. If you focus solely on Lane in the passenger seat, it is telling, imo
B

Isn't that what her forst three paragraphs are about? She talks about Connie answering for him and how she found it odd that a Pastor, a man who is used to public speaking, does not get out of the car to talk to reporters.

[O4Bull]

It doesn't surprise me at all. I think the mythos that child predators are all these greasy scary looking guys or dark hooded figures is bunk. They are our neighbors, relatives and friends. I think the creepy scary ones get press...the normal guy next door doesn't? I don't know but it's rampant.

As far as the defense exhuming the body of Sandra. I think if they need to they should. I don't think they need the parents permission as it's not the parents that are charging Hucakby. I think when yer dead, yer dead so it won't hurt her anymore. It may hurt us but we can't forget those 2 pesky little critters...constitution and bill of rights. So do it, get it over with, put her back and go ahead.

Makes me glad I don't have kids. Keeping my idiot dogs safe is stressful enough. 

O/T

Another "minister" charged with taping teen boys in sex acts.. Hillsborough County, FL.   

  It is really hard to comprehend all of this.

I know this is gonna come across harsh but what I highlighted in red kinda makes me glad you don't either. 

[JessStar]

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-huckaby13-2009apr13,0,6408687.story
snipped
Madison Huckaby - 5 yr old daughter of MH

According to both families, Huckaby's daughter become good friends with Sandra, and the two played together often. Madison left on a pre-arranged vacation with family members shortly after her friend disappeared, relatives said.

Planned after Sandra went missing and they sniffed it back to Huckaby, I dont give a rats bippy what they say. They knew this was coming and wanted her out there, period.
B

On the motion to (in essence) to exhume Sandra, no way that will happen. The Tox results arent back yet so a full autopsy result isnt even available to the defense yet.. Lastly, I am discouraged if the aggravating circumstance charge as to the "raped by instrument" charge if only alleged by genital trauma and nothing else. The way the motion was worded makes me think it may be. I have no doubt that this precious child was raped, but if the charge was only based on the physical exam, someone is going to have to explain to me how they are so sure there was no man involved here.

I feel the same way

can you explain why it concerns you?

I wrote this post and deleted it 3 different times I fear it is too graphic, but I'll keep trying.

Loosely asked, I am hopeful they can tell there was a foreign instrument vs. other based on direct evidence of same, not just because they know there was penetration and that would be a physical impossibility on the part of Huckaby and absent other suspects. Admittedly, I believe there is another's involvement and that tempers my concerns. Not that I find it exculpatory in any way whatsoever, I just want everyone involved caught and prosecuted.
B

ITA I too think someone else is involved....

ok, without being too graphic, can LE tell if Sandra was sexual assulted before her death? In other words.....could LE tell if Sandra was sexually assulted multi times before her death? Like scaring or taring?............sorry to be so graphic but perhaps this wasn't the first time Sandra was MH's victim?

In this case, they will be able to tell if the trauma was caused by the abuse that led to her death, and that it preceded her death.  Whether she will also exhibit signs of repeated abuse will depend on the mechanism of that abuse.

[JessStar]

It doesn't surprise me at all. I think the mythos that child predators are all these greasy scary looking guys or dark hooded figures is bunk. They are our neighbors, relatives and friends. I think the creepy scary ones get press...the normal guy next door doesn't? I don't know but it's rampant.

As far as the defense exhuming the body of Sandra. I think if they need to they should. I don't think they need the parents permission as it's not the parents that are charging Hucakby. I think when yer dead, yer dead so it won't hurt her anymore. It may hurt us but we can't forget those 2 pesky little critters...constitution and bill of rights. So do it, get it over with, put her back and go ahead.

Makes me glad I don't have kids. Keeping my idiot dogs safe is stressful enough. 

O/T

Another "minister" charged with taping teen boys in sex acts.. Hillsborough County, FL.   

  It is really hard to comprehend all of this.

I know this is gonna come across harsh but what I highlighted in red kinda makes me glad you don't either. 

Not to play "me too", but "me too." 

[Blink34]

Don't know if you find this interesting but I do and especially since it is in regards to Pastor Lane Lawless -

http://www.eyesforlies.blogspot.com/2009/04/pastor-lane-lawless-video.html

I apologize in advance if it has already been posted but I don't recall seeing it here.

I strongly agree with that author's preliminary opinions. Moreover, I would like to see her comment on the initial video where Connie and Lane are in the van and Connie is answering questions. If you focus solely on Lane in the passenger seat, it is telling, imo
B

Isn't that what her forst three paragraphs are about? She talks about Connie answering for him and how she found it odd that a Pastor, a man who is used to public speaking, does not get out of the car to talk to reporters.

I was speaking specifically about his behavior only in reaction to the questions asked, I did not see that specifically, but I may have missed it.