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« Reply #20 on: April 16, 2009, 09:08:42 PM »


Geerman Gerardo     
Siribana 6     585-XXXX

Webb Lorenzo D     
Shiribana 6     588-XXXX



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Quote from: Kermit on April 06, 2009, 12:38:53 PM

A cruel hoax to the family of Natalee Holloway - the POND SEARCH

1. We knew that the Pond contained nothing case significant.
   Kyle had posted the images of the pond scan.

2. CapsLockWizard was emailing Dave Holloway telling him he knew where Natalee was buried and told Dave to come to Aruba right away. But Dave Holloway did not reply. CapsLockWizard then got lalasmom to intervene. She emailed Dave Holloway to listen to CapsLockWizard, afterall, she was convinced that maybe at last Shango and/or Simian had come forth and maybe, just maybe, it was CapsLockWizard. Dave Holloway responded to CapsLockWizard and the fix was in.


NOW remember that CapsLockWizard's posts and emails to Dave told Dave and all the codetalkers that Natalee was
in the cemetary
in the Moko
at Whitehouse Apts.
in the Montanja Pond
pieces spread around
Then a witness says he saw Joran at the Pond
Remember how some questioned CapsLockWizard
Some noticed the posts of CapsLockWizards command of the  English language changed with his posts at various times

That is because there were at least 4 men pulling this off

September 15, 2007 - Kawish Misier was at Scared Monkeys  reading Freebirds document about Dompig.

October 15, 2007 - Caps received an email from Kawish Misier.

MISIER, Kawish -  character witness listed on pg 33 Tacopina’s filing in NY civil suit.
http://connect.tickle.com/profile/index.html?id=fccwevYGEFckQ.D
 http://www.hi5.com/friend/profile/displayProfile.do?userid=731494

CapsLockWizard was instructed in that email by Kawish Misier to go to the Freebirds blog.

November 26, 2007 CapsLockWizard came back to the Freebirds blog 

December 20, 2007 - CapsLockWizard signed up at Scared Monkeys.
December 20, 2007 - The RV Persistence made it's first ROV dive.


Many times CapsLockWizard was reading at ScaredMonkeys and not posting.
One would assume if a person new a witness that he later set up to speak with the Persistence owner and crew member
that he would a)keep it quiet b)talk only with his uncle - the attorney c) not post on a high profile website.
But CapsLockWizard not only posted on the scared monkeys websites, he also emailed with a number of people.

January 21- (A) Caps 4th post he enters into the Shango Arena
on: January 21, 2008, 01:52:21 AM
Klaasend:
Anyone have the complete Riddle in sequence and date order?
I have read it all and I do believe it is not difficult to solve. It is like Dungen and Dragons but with an Aruba/American flavor to it


Is it intriguing that CapsLockWizard immediately knows that the body is in Montana pond...... these are riddles people have been looking at for three years and not been able to determine what they mean....
but he can decipher it on the first day he looking at the stuff


January 22 Caps says it clearly states the Montana pond

February 16, 2008, 11:12:09 AM »
CapsLockWizard posts that his uncle is an attorney. "The government has his own set of lawyers and only work for the Government"
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=1952.2000
Attorney office  - Aruba Chamber of Commerce
some very interesting names here:



OPENBAARMAKING van de lijst van kiezers voor het KLEINBEDRIJF in Aruba voor het jaar 2004

anaam vnaam pstraat pnummer

ERASMUS-VROLIJK ESTHER LUDWINA CAYA FRČRE LAURENTIUS 23

GOMEZ-VROLIJK GISELLE OLGA SANTA CRUZ 20
http://www.arubachamber.com/DISKKLEINBEDRIJF31JULI2004.htm

RAS-VROLIJK SANDRA FLORENCIA SEROE BLANCO 44-H

TROMP-VROLIJK JACINTA BERNADINA PALU DI BOONCHISTRAAT 14

VROLIJK-CROES JUDITH EVELINE OHMSTRAAT 1

VROLIJK-DE CUBA MARTHA BEATRIZ SAVANETA 149

ANGELA-FROLIJK LUISITA WEG ROOI HUNDO 65

ARBONA PARRA-VROLIJK NANCY CAROLINE NUNE 2-H

BLANCO-VROLIJK IMELDA GRACIELA PARAGUANA 3-B
HENRIQUEZ-VROLIJK FRIDA SUPRIANA SAVANETA 167

JOSEPH-VROLIJK ANGELA WENDELA WAYACA 268

KRANSEN-VROLIJK ANNA MADIKI 95-B

LIENDO-VROLIJK MARIA LUCINA SANTA CRUZ 340-A

MONTANER VROLIJK GIOVANNI DE VUYST 76
http://www.arubachamber.com/DISKKLEINBEDRIJF31JULI2004.htm


February 27 Caps uses a shango post to give the directions to the pond
February 28 Caps says he will go there at nine o'clock in the morning....
Who told Caps to go to the pond and that it was being searched?

February 26, 2008 Caps posts: "The pond in question (MOKO) is right out near the Whitehouse Apartment.
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=1952.2720

November 13, 2008 Kawish Misier visited Scared Monkeys to the discussion about "A man contacted Dave & asked him to meet at the VIP Club (Owned by the Misier's)
Wasn't poster KBM..Kawish...his nephew?
Kawish Misier is friends with Deepak, Satish along with Joran, Kawish’s father owns numerous properties on the island and numerous car rental agencies. Kawish would have access to these vehicles.
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2103.220

THEN HE WENT TO THE FRONT PAGE OF SM

#  Steve Holloway on July 14th, 2008 9:07 am
I want every body to know that Dave still wants the water search to continue. Their are over 170 targets that have to be looked at.
The fund raiser needs to start soon. An idea I talked with him about is maybe a ebay auction. A large picture of Natalee would go to the highest bidder with all funds going toward this boat search. There could be different auctions spaced out with different picture’s. I just talked with him about this idea, so its not a done deal.
God Bless
http://scaredmonkeys.com/2008/07/12/dr-phil-attorneys-use-scared-monkeys-natalee-holloway-posts-as-exhibit-in-court-docs-against-deepak-satish-kalpoes/

One of them did a google search on the name Emilio Geerman.

I remembered discussions on Scared Monkeys about the witness name being Geerman.

Doing a little research you can see that 3 men occupy the same residence that CAPSLOCKWIZARD lives.

We already had the phone number of CAPSLOCKWIZARD AND ONE OF THE OTHER ROOM MATES.

So if you look at the Aruba whitepages you will see Geerman, CapsLockWizard, his other room mate all share
the same residence address in Aruba.


http://www.arubayp.com/whitesearch.html?phone=&name=geerman&page=7
http://www.arubayp.com/whitesearch.html?phone=&name=Webb&page=2

CapsLockWizard said he used 4 computers.

4 different men using a computer

and convinced Dave Holloway that there was "remains and a sneaker in the pond" at Montanja and that a witness
saw Joran.

4 Aruban men used the Monkeys in a consorted effort to deceive you all.

They almost got away with it.


THEY ARE:
Kawish Misier
RV
room mate first name is the name of the 1/2 brother of Joran, last name is the name of ducks feet.
room mate is the name of the guy everyone said was the witness, first name starts with same letter as last name

Look at the white pages for the same street that Charles Croes lives on.
Now, you can match all 3 men living at the same address!


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Geerman Gerardo     
Siribana 6     585-XXXX

Webb Lorenzo D     
Shiribana 6     588-XXXX


Capslockwizard:
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Kawish
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« Reply #21 on: April 16, 2009, 09:10:06 PM »


Mr Emilio GEERMAN -Interim Director, Aruba Correctional Institute

Geerman Gerardo
http://www.arubayp.com/whitesearch.html?phone=&name=geerman&page=7

Webb Lorenzo D
http://www.arubayp.com/whitesearch.html?phone=&name=Webb&page=2

RV
same address.


Geerman Gerardo     
Siribana 6     585-XXXX

Webb Lorenzo D     
Shiribana 6     588-XXXX

Webb Marilyn E     
Shiribana 6 A     582-XXXX ..............  ????
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« Reply #22 on: April 16, 2009, 09:11:00 PM »

FAST PHONE SERVICES- RENT YOUR PHONE
Business address SHIRIBANA 3-I, PARADERA
CROES, CHARLES AUGUST;
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« Reply #23 on: April 16, 2009, 09:19:28 PM »





http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4209.msg568630#msg568630

Kyle: I've talked with Peter Shouten numerous times back in February. He hasn't seen anything but knows about the blue fabrics. DeVries and Endemol was interested in purchasing the ROV footage and I was working between them, ABC, and CBS to strike a deal.
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4328.320





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« Reply #24 on: April 16, 2009, 09:22:33 PM »


Mr Emilio GEERMAN -Interim Director, Aruba Correctional Institute

Geerman Gerardo
http://www.arubayp.com/whitesearch.html?phone=&name=geerman&page=7

Webb Lorenzo D
http://www.arubayp.com/whitesearch.html?phone=&name=Webb&page=2

RV
same address.


Geerman Gerardo     
Siribana 6     585-XXXX

Webb Lorenzo D     
Shiribana 6     588-XXXX

Webb Marilyn E     
Shiribana 6 A     582-XXXX ..............  ????


There were 4 computers used by the nic capslockwizard.
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« Reply #25 on: April 16, 2009, 09:28:09 PM »



Capslockwizard:
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #686 10/14 -
on: October 20, 2007, 07:03:07 PM 
More re. the bones found near the Natural Bridge last August --

http://www.amigoe.com/english/  10/19/2007

Skeleton ‘Boc’i Brik’ is German shipwrecked sailor

One of the archeologists at work during the research on the skeleton of Boc’i Brik.

ORANJESTAD – Scientists of the Archeological Museum Aruba (MAA) concluded that the skeleton parts that tourists found near Boc’i Brik (left of the small Natural Bridge near Puente) two months ago are the remains of one of the shipwrecked sailors of the German ship Hero that wrecked in 1886.   

The museum says that this conclusion must clear up all speculations that went around after the bones were discovered.  Thanks to good arrangements with the police, the archaeologists were there fast.  Due to their forensic knowledge network, archaeologists are always called when bones are found in Aruba.  They couldn’t beat the desecrators of graves though.  The scull and jaw were missing and some of the bones were not right qua ‘anatomic context’.  The archaeologists do not think that only nature was to be blamed for this.  Despite the big cultural-historic value, it seems that people have opened the tomb. 

It now appears that these people also knew that there were more persons on board of the Hero that were buried here after they were washed ashore.  All the tombstones were removed and sold. 

“Can you imagine how many people in Aruba have their own private archaeological collection”, says MAA-archaeologist Raymundo Dijkhoff that hates the fact that the authorities do not do anything against this.   “Even though the Malta-treaty can offer protection, and that the Netherlands has ratified it, there is still no good legislation to act against these practices.”

Educational museum employee Marguerita Wever said that people do not always realize that they are damaging their cultural heritage.  “They often leave initials behind or they use the old bones in voodoo rituals.  The biggest chance on damage is when something is discovered on private territories, when a house is being built for example.  A lot depends on the goodwill of the owners.  The owner of the Natural Bridge and surroundings was involved in these sailor tombs.

BOC’I BRIK

The name of the area where the bones were found, Boc’i Brik, was soon an indication of the origin.  All the stories about the name turned out to have one thing in common: an extremely powerful hurricane on October 17th, 1886 that caused a ship of the type schooner-brik to wreck offshore; hence the name Boc’i Brik.  There was just one survival, all the others drowned and washed ashore near Puente.

The research-team rediscovered the journal of a local official from that time, David C. Gaërste, which stated that the huge incident took place at the north-coast of this island, where the North-German Schooner brik Hero that left from Maracaibo with destination Europe, was totally lost.  Only the steersman (…) was rescued.
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Capslockwizard:
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #686 10/14 -
on: October 20, 2007, 07:03:07 PM 
More re. the bones found near the Natural Bridge last August --

http://www.amigoe.com/english/  10/19/2007

Skeleton ‘Boc’i Brik’ is German shipwrecked sailor

One of the archeologists at work during the research on the skeleton of Boc’i Brik.

ORANJESTAD – Scientists of the Archeological Museum Aruba (MAA) concluded that the skeleton parts that tourists found near Boc’i Brik (left of the small Natural Bridge near Puente) two months ago are the remains of one of the shipwrecked sailors of the German ship Hero that wrecked in 1886.   

The museum says that this conclusion must clear up all speculations that went around after the bones were discovered.  Thanks to good arrangements with the police, the archaeologists were there fast.  Due to their forensic knowledge network, archaeologists are always called when bones are found in Aruba.  They couldn’t beat the desecrators of graves though.  The scull and jaw were missing and some of the bones were not right qua ‘anatomic context’.  The archaeologists do not think that only nature was to be blamed for this.  Despite the big cultural-historic value, it seems that people have opened the tomb. 

It now appears that these people also knew that there were more persons on board of the Hero that were buried here after they were washed ashore.  All the tombstones were removed and sold. 

“Can you imagine how many people in Aruba have their own private archaeological collection”, says MAA-archaeologist Raymundo Dijkhoff that hates the fact that the authorities do not do anything against this.   “Even though the Malta-treaty can offer protection, and that the Netherlands has ratified it, there is still no good legislation to act against these practices.”

Educational museum employee Marguerita Wever said that people do not always realize that they are damaging their cultural heritage.  “They often leave initials behind or they use the old bones in voodoo rituals.  The biggest chance on damage is when something is discovered on private territories, when a house is being built for example.  A lot depends on the goodwill of the owners.  The owner of the Natural Bridge and surroundings was involved in these sailor tombs.

BOC’I BRIK

The name of the area where the bones were found, Boc’i Brik, was soon an indication of the origin.  All the stories about the name turned out to have one thing in common: an extremely powerful hurricane on October 17th, 1886 that caused a ship of the type schooner-brik to wreck offshore; hence the name Boc’i Brik.  There was just one survival, all the others drowned and washed ashore near Puente.

The research-team rediscovered the journal of a local official from that time, David C. Gaërste, which stated that the huge incident took place at the north-coast of this island, where the North-German Schooner brik Hero that left from Maracaibo with destination Europe, was totally lost.  Only the steersman (…) was rescued.


Link to above post:  http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2249.msg292617;topicseen#msg292617
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« Reply #28 on: April 16, 2009, 09:38:09 PM »


That is your Aruban group.
The group who said to Dave Holloway to come to Aruba to get his daughter - the sneaker and remains are in the pond.



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« Reply #29 on: April 16, 2009, 09:45:02 PM »

#1547 on: January 30, 2008, 12:13:48 AM
Monkeys friend:
I started to look at the case of Natalee on Dec 22, 2007 and I wrote a research report that was send to the FBI to let  them take a look into my reseach. The research is not about who did, it is about by looking at all the possible scenarios that can match a single "AND LOGIC" connected question.

I send it to klaasend for review and that's how I got here. The results was a place that everyone overlooked.http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=1952.msg333988#msg333988

OCTOBER 16, 2007 - CAPS came to Freebirds blog via an email sent to him.
by Kawish.

Monkey poster "kbm" was supposedly Kawash Misier, connected with Deepak/Satish. His uncle was psychic Karam Misier who wanted to meet with Dave.  Posts below say Misier is also an uncle to Deepak/Satish.
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=245.0   (scroll down for Kawash pic).

Hotshot wanted kbm to join SM
Hotshot wanted Caps to meet John Silvetti
Caps meets John Silvetti
Caps tells them Natalee is in the pond.
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« Reply #30 on: April 16, 2009, 09:46:43 PM »


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Quote from: finngirl on December 30, 2008, 11:17:25 PM

Quote from: ss on April 28, 2008, 08:15:49 PM

CAPS said that the initials SGCJ with the arrest are not for Steve Gregory Croes. He said the initials are written last name first so it would be S,GCJ. He said the name is Giovanni Solognier and I have been searching everywhere for a Giovanni Solognier.


Quote from: finngirl on April 29, 2008, 01:08:32 AM

say what?

since when?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

Authorities probing the disappearance of missing Alabama teenager Natalee Holloway arrested the DJ of a popular party boat Friday morning and searched his home.

A prosecutor's spokeswoman, Mariaine Croes, in keeping with Aruban law, identified him only by his initials, S.G.C. She said he was born July 21, 1978.
http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/06/17/missing.teen/index.html

note: SGC not CSG or C,SG
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

Mariaine Croes, a spokeswoman for the public prosecutor’s office, said Aruban authorities were not prepared to disclose why the person was arrested or how they are allegedly connected to the disappearance of the American teenager on the Dutch Caribbean island nearly a year ago.

Croes would only say that the person who was arrested is 19 and has the initials “G.V.C.” Authorities in Aruba typically only release a suspect’s initials upon their arrest.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,191903,00.html

note: GVC not VCG or VC,G
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

ORANJESTAD, Aruba -- Satish and Deepak Kalpoe, the two Surinamese brothers previously detained in the Natalee Holloway case, have been re-arrested on suspicion of premeditated rape and murder, Aruban government officials said Friday. A third person was also detained.

Prosecutor's office spokeswoman Mariaine Croes told FOX News that the third person was a man known as "Freddy" or "F.A.", said to be a friend of Joran van der Sloot, who has been held in the case since June 9.
(no link/sorry)

note: FA not AF or A,F
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« Reply #31 on: April 16, 2009, 09:51:01 PM »

Here are some photos of Joran and a girlfriend of his in Thailand.  Likely from the end of 2008 but I don't really know and don't really care.  I love a challenge when I have the time for it.   





Note Caitlin is from Monterey, Calif:




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Quote from: SS on December 03, 2008, 08:13:18 PM

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=3697.msg565709#msg565709

When we worked on Merian Ernest last Spring, Caps told us that the fake diploma referred to Booshi Wever, Minister of Health.  He's dirty and he didn't have the right credentials for one of his appointments, so he created his own credentials.  Reportedly he was involved in a large drug bust with Venezuela and supposedly he owns "houses of ill repute" on Aruba.

I'm not sure exactly what Caps is referring to when he says cleaning.  Was Wever involved with cleaning the cage???  Was he involved with the drugs that were transferred through that particular cage??? Caps also told us that Rufo Solognier, former police chief, was given the assignment of cleaning the Matty Apts. of all evidence the next day.

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« Reply #33 on: April 16, 2009, 09:55:08 PM »


Mr Emilio GEERMAN -Interim Director, Aruba Correctional Institute

Geerman Gerardo
http://www.arubayp.com/whitesearch.html?phone=&name=geerman&page=7

Webb Lorenzo D
http://www.arubayp.com/whitesearch.html?phone=&name=Webb&page=2

RV
same address.


Geerman Gerardo     
Siribana 6     585-XXXX


Webb Lorenzo D     
Shiribana 6     588-XXXX

Webb Marilyn E     
Shiribana 6 A     582-XXXX ..............  ????


There were 4 computers used by the nic capslockwizard.


Has there been any research done to determine if there is a Jossy Mansur/Gerardo Geerman connection.

Janet

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Holloway Cover-up By Aruban Law Enforcement?
Friday, December 05, 2008


VAN SUSTEREN: In the conversation that we had with Joran, he claims that the voice on the tape is his father. And obviously the prosecutor could prove that or disprove that. He could use subpoena power and do that. We can't get a first-generation tape from his father and do that.

Is it likely that the prosecutor will do that? Because, frankly, if it turns out that is his voice, his father under what he said is up to his eyeballs in something.

MANSUR: Of course. We know he was involved from the beginning. And after the new wave of things(ph), Mr. Herman, who saw Joran walking with his clothes all muddy. And then later he was saw him in the car with Paulus van der Sloot.

And we assume, and it has been certified by this man that the man who took Joran van der Sloot to his home that night after Natalee disappeared was his father. So he was involved from the beginning.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,462349,00.html


Jossy's interview with Greta begins at 4:50.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIeRJtMxqus


NANCY GRACE
New Search in Natalee Holloway Disappearance
Aired March 23, 2009 - 20:00:00   ET


JOSSY MANSUR, OWNER, "DIARIO": Because the Aruban government has always based itself on the recommendations of the prosecution, and the only thing that the prosecution wants to do is close this case, Nancy.

GRACE: Why, Jossy? I don`t understand. Why is the Aruban government so hell-bent on closing this case without a resolution? This witness, to my understanding, has passed not one but two independent polygraphs. He even identifies the make and model of the vehicle, which goes back to Daddy, Paulus Van Der Sloot, a red Jeep. Why is the Aruban government ignoring this?

MANSUR: I don`t know why. But we will have to ask them to answer that question. But I know this man, the witness, very well. I`ve known him for a long time. And I believe in what he says, especially after whatever he said was confirmed by two polygraph tests which he passed brilliantly.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0903/23/ng.01.html
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« Reply #34 on: April 16, 2009, 10:06:46 PM »



http://www.nationalenquirer.com/truth_about_natalee_holloway_joran_van_der_sloot_michael_j_fox_tracy_pollan_lifetime_/celebrity/66520
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« Reply #35 on: April 16, 2009, 10:09:07 PM »


Mr Emilio GEERMAN -Interim Director, Aruba Correctional Institute

Geerman Gerardo
http://www.arubayp.com/whitesearch.html?phone=&name=geerman&page=7

Webb Lorenzo D
http://www.arubayp.com/whitesearch.html?phone=&name=Webb&page=2

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same address.


Geerman Gerardo     
Siribana 6     585-XXXX


Webb Lorenzo D     
Shiribana 6     588-XXXX

Webb Marilyn E     
Shiribana 6 A     582-XXXX ..............  ????


There were 4 computers used by the nic capslockwizard.


Lifesong ... I agree.  What are the chances?

Gerard equates Gerardo?

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Searching For Natalee: AMW Producer's Diary Day 3
A Creepy Thursday In Aruba
11/6/2005


This is the third in a series of journal entries AMW correspondent Rick Segall wrote as he searched in Aruba with Dave Holloway, Natalee Holloway's father, and the EquuSearch team.
 
There is nothing neat and tidy about the Natalee Holloway investigation. Sometimes you just go down the path and see where it leads you. And sometimes it's just darned creepy.
 
That's what happened on a Thursday morning last week in Aruba. Tim Miller, the director of EquuSearch, was planning to do a low-altitude helicopter search. But he got sidetracked by an island local with "crucial evidence" concerning Natalee's disappearance. The man (I'll call him "Gerard") said he didn't know who to trust with the evidence -- he wanted Tim to see it first.

So Gerard led Tim to a heavy black trash bag tied with a rope. He refused to tell Tim what was in the bag. "Not here," said Gerard. "We have to go somewhere more private." Gerard insisted on lifting the heavy bag himself and placed it in the truck of Tim's rental car. On the drive, Gerard started talking in mysterious riddles and innuendo -- likely the result of drugs he admitted to taking.

Evidence?
Tim pulled up to my hotel and said I could get in the car with my little home video camera -- not the big, professional TV camera. Joining this excursion was not about getting a scoop for AMW (in fact, the compelling cloak-and-dagger tale never aired on the show). Tim and I agreed that my presence was important for "evidentiary value" -- to record the episode in case there actually was anything important in that trash bag.

We drove around for a little longer as Gerard told me about the "powerful draw" of young girls like Natalee and informed me that many people on the island make it their business to know when the "beautiful young girls from the States" are scheduled to come to Aruba. This guy was 100% creepy. He insinuated he knew lots of important information. But when pressed, Gerard provided us with nothing but blank stares and silly riddles.

Finally, we pulled down a long road completely hidden from any people or passing cars. Gerard informed us that this spot met with his satisfaction. We could now see what was in the trash bag. As I got out of the car, my heart was pounding 100 beats a minute. Whispering, I suggested to Tim that we use my cell phone to let someone know where we were located. I wasn't convinced that this half-drugged "informant" was completely safe. Tim was more comfortable with Gerard than I was. I think he also worried that a phone call would spook our paranoid tipster. So Tim gave me a little wink, indicating that a phone call wasn't necessary.

Revelations
The bag and the prospect of what was inside terrified me -- mostly because Gerard wouldn't verbalize it. Was it Natalee's clothing? The bag was too heavy for just clothing. Was it parts of a body? Surely they wouldn't be in a flimsy trash bag.

Tim untied the cord and cautiously opened the bag. His eyes saw inside before my camera could focus on the dark contents. But in a split second, the expression on his face turned from apprehension to skepticism. Tim reached inside the bag and pulled out a long, sandy rope. After a few seconds of silence, Tim turned to Gerard with raised eyebrows, as if to ask the question "What's this?"

Gerard stated that he was sure the rope had something to do with Natalee's disappearance. But after fifteen minutes of questioning by Tim and me, Gerard could not tell us when he found the rope, where he found the rope, or why he thought it could have anything to do with Natalee's disappearance. No credibility. Just the ramblings of a paranoid person on drugs. Gerard, a grown man, began mumbling that his father was looking for him and he'd have to get back to town. We dropped Gerard off after giving him a lecture about the desperate need for Natalee's family to have some closure. After Gerard walked away, Tim pounded the steering wheel and screamed "A whole wasted morning!" I knew he was right, but I also knew we had no choice.  It could have been some evidence to break the case wide open. Instead, we had taken a road that led us nowhere.

That's the way I feel every day now on the Natalee Holloway case. With so little communication and cooperation coming from the Aruban Police, Natalee's family and those trying to help them solve the case are forced to wander down whatever road presents itself.

http://www2.amw.com/features/feature_story_detail.cfm?id=863

Credit: Edward/Lifesong


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“A person of integrity expects to be believed and when he’s not, he let’s time prove him right.” -unknown
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« Reply #36 on: April 16, 2009, 10:13:04 PM »


Re: SHANGO/SIMIAN - who are they and what did they know? #2
« Reply #360 on: March 30, 2008, 11:46:08 AM »
Carlos Severino  also a victem of this prosecution of the PG in Aruba. I know him personaly and he went to live in German
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2733.360


e.g. DH from germany ...very powerfull but no one have a picture.
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2733.960

Deudekom in (CAR-3) drive Joran to the pond to Drop the body, (Car -3 Leaves) leaving Joran at foot
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2733.180


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« Reply #37 on: April 16, 2009, 10:15:19 PM »

I must say..You Monkey's are amazing!I think we can include that movie star Frog,even though the Frog is busy Hob-Knobbing with the Elite Frogs on the lily-pads...
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« Reply #38 on: April 16, 2009, 10:17:50 PM »

Here are some photos of Joran and a girlfriend of his in Thailand.  Likely from the end of 2008 but I don't really know and don't really care.  I love a challenge when I have the time for it.   





Note Caitlin is from Monterey, Calif:






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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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« Reply #39 on: April 16, 2009, 10:24:48 PM »


Thank you Klaas.

Could it be Julia Renfro, Mark Purcell, Hotshot and/or Charlierat further the pro-Dave/anti-Beth agenda?  Dave Holloway has never publicly undermine the words, motives or actions of the mother of his daughter.  He has upheld Beth in his book as well as the talk show circuit.

Beth Holloway's production was in the works long before the Fred Golba search of the Monserat Pond.

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« Reply #498 on: January 08, 2009, 09:15:29 AM »


Beth is a very good woman, don't get me wrong, but what is OK with her doesn't mean the rest of the family is OK with it.  The movie coming out is one of those things.  Dave soesn't want the lifetime movie.  He says enough is enough, "Thats my little girl".

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4351.msg617348;topicseen#msg617348
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Page 219: I have to make difficult choices every day.  I have to make a conscious decision every morning when I wake up not to be bitter, not to live in resentment and let anger control me.  It's not easy.  I ask God to help me.
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“A person of integrity expects to be believed and when he’s not, he let’s time prove him right.” -unknown
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