Natalee Case Discussion #816 4/16/09 - 4/22/09

[nonesuche]

Tracy will also be on The View.  Here is where you can watch it once it airs:

http://abc.go.com/player/index?pn=index&showId=167365

Hi all, I just signed in to let others know Tracy is up next on The View and I see Jen already posted it - but for those on east coast who can watch live it's in commercial now but Tracy is on next....

[Tamikosmom]

Hi Hotping.  Have a great weekend, and thanks for the article!

YW Jen.....I really hate that I can't get into researching today...it is storming outside right now and its a perfect day to stay in and research but Family Calls so to speak......See You All Later in the Weekend! 

Hotping

Have a great weekend!  Enjoy!  Family is where it is at.

 

Janet

[Tamikosmom]

Tracy will also be on The View.  Here is where you can watch it once it airs:

http://abc.go.com/player/index?pn=index&showId=167365

Hi all, I just signed in to let others know Tracy is up next on The View and I see Jen already posted it - but for those on east coast who can watch live it's in commercial now but Tracy is on next....

 

I received a message that implied only viewer in the US can access this video.

Hey ... I thought Canadians were considered family.  President Bush stated Canada and the United States were family when he attempted to justify why Canada was not included in the countries he thanked for allowing incoming planes to land on their soil and ... receiving passengers into their homes ... in the week following 9/11.

Janet

[Lifesong]

SAN just emailed me this message from work:


I was sitting here at my desk with the radio on and heard the commercial for the NH story.  So it is getting radio attention also.  I have to say when you hear the commercial on the radio it makes Aruba look bad.  JMO

Thank you Klaas.  Thank you San.

Beth Holloway's production is based on her book Loving Natalee ... a book that says it how it is in regards to the obvious coverup that has denied her daughter justice ... a book that mirrors her forthright words spoken on the American talk show circuit since the getgo.

Janet

+++++

Beth Holloway
LOVING NATALEE
Page 157/158

No one is breathing. Or Moving. Reporters and camera people are crying. The media hve been here more than a month, and they’ve seen firsthand what we’ve experienced. They are moved by this plea. But some of the Arubans are not. Calling their local sons “criminals” offends them. Having just heard the prosecuting attorney tell us at least one of the Kalpoes could be involved in whatever happened to my daughter. I felt the term seemed appropriate. But it led to an abrupt change in the tide of support.
… Not long after the “criminals speech,” some Arubans back off their prayer vigils for Natalee. A few protest in the streets against the barage of negative media. We’ve worn out our welcome at the Holiday Inn. And they let us know they’ve had it. The Aruban Tourism Authority (ATA), the Aruba Hotel and Tourism Association (AHATA), the Aruba Trade and Industry Association and a scattering of island officials establish the Strategic Communications Task Force to combat the negative media. And to combat us.


The Jonesboro Sun
January 29, 2007

Twitty recalled the first days after her daughter's disappearance and the actions of the Aruban government.

"We did everything we could in looking for her.  There was a government coverup, and it has been documented," Twitty contended.

http://www.jonesborosun.com/story.php?ID=25809


'Scarborough Country' for Oct. 21st
updated 1:46 p.m. PT, Sun., Oct. 23, 2005

HOLLOWAY TWITTY: They never—they never wanted to implicate these three young men.

They never wanted to implicate them from the beginning. And there is a list of reasons, you know, why we know that is true.

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/9796403/from/RL.2/


'Rita Cosby Live & Direct' for December 1
updated 7:37 a.m. PT, Fri., Dec. 2, 2005

BETH HOLLOWAY TWITTY, NATALEE HOLLOWAY'S MOTHER: Well, of course, it's very frustrating. You know, the entire investigation, that's all we've had is frustration coming out of the officials from Aruba.  You know, evidence—you know when evidence is gathered and lost or evidence is never gathered when it's supposed to be, just (INAUDIBLE) the primary residence of Paulus Van Der Sloot was never searched —I mean, you know, it just can't help but raise all the questions of—and leave us frustrated.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10295536/


'Rita Cosby Live & Direct' for Dec. 5th
updated 6:18 a.m. PT, Tues., Dec. 6, 2005

TWITTY: ... Remember, within the first 24 hours, we knew who the suspects were. We knew the persons that Natalee were taken from Carlos and Charlie‘s. We knew the license plate of the gray Honda they placed her in. We knew the condition that Natalee was in. We knew the behavior or the conduct in which they engaged in with Natalee.

And then not only that, Jane, within 72 hours, we knew that their first story was totally fabricated, that within the first 72 hours, I faced a room of 12 -- at least 12 detectives, Aruban and Dutch detectives, and a lead detective, Dennis Jacobs (ph), and they knew after we reviewed video footage from the Holiday Inn casino lobby that my daughter had never been brought back to the Holiday Inn. They knew that those suspects were fabricating a story from day one.

<snipped>

TWITTY: Well, Jane, something that the family knew—and we have to keep reminding everyone—after 72 hours -- 72 hours—we knew definitively that these suspects were not telling the truth. We knew that my daughter had never been brought back to the Holiday Inn. Of course we were becoming frustrated. Who wouldn‘t, at this point? You know, we—and what was so unbelievable about this, is they knew this information and still chose to pursue the two security guards on June the 5th.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10348437/

Good Morning, Janet!

Thank you for this reminder. 

I just watched Tracy Pollan on The View.  She is very gracious and sincere and spoke so well and admiringly of Beth...but this was the second interview I had seen her do today and not one word about Aruba or the coverup...I admit some disappointment in the opportunities lost.

Then I came back to the thread, refreshed to get caught up...and look what you did!   

NOW I realize, perhaps the plan, for do I believe Beth has a plan, is to let the movie speak for itself first and then begin another round of calling out for the truth next week.

    

[2NJSons_Mom]

Tracy will also be on The View.  Here is where you can watch it once it airs:

http://abc.go.com/player/index?pn=index&showId=167365

Hi all, I just signed in to let others know Tracy is up next on The View and I see Jen already posted it - but for those on east coast who can watch live it's in commercial now but Tracy is on next....

 

I received a message that implied only viewer in the US can access this video.

Hey ... I thought Canadians were considered family.  President Bush stated Canada and the United States were family when he attempted to justify why Canada was not included in the countries he thanked for allowing incoming planes to land on their soil and ... receiving passengers into their homes ... in the week following 9/11.

Janet

I was not able to find the video of Tracy on GMA....just Huckaby's ex-husband....I did just catch The View.  They spent most of the time on Michael's Parkinson's, the Foundation & family, but finished up with the movie.  The clip was heart wrenching....can't wait to see it.

Have to start getting ready for our wedding today, too.  Hotping and I have similar social events. 

Later....

[2NJSons_Mom]

Lifesong,

I agree with you & also just saw the ad on ABC.  Someone knows the truth.

[jen3560]

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petroleum_engineering

[Magnolia]

I have seen three interviews with Tracy Pollan this morning.

All have been about half about Michael J. Fox, her husband, and their foundation for
 stem cell research and half about the Natalee movie.

Dianne Sawyer called the Natalee story compelling and emotional.
Elizabeth on the View teared up after viewing a scene of Beth realizing that Natalee was gone.
The other interview was a telephone interview on a local morning show.

[crazybabyborg]

OH OH OH!!!!

I just heard an advertisement for Natalee's Movie!!!!!   

I'm so excited!!! I just had to get to the puter and tell you guys!!!!   

LET THE STORY BE TOLD AND LET ALL THE WORLD HEAR!!!!! NATALEE HOLLOWAY WILL NOT GO AWAY! NATALEE WILL NOT BE FORGOTTEN!!!!

[Tamikosmom]

Good Morning, Janet!

Thank you for this reminder. 

I just watched Tracy Pollan on The View.  She is very gracious and sincere and spoke so well and admiringly of Beth...but this was the second interview I had seen her do today and not one word about Aruba or the coverup...I admit some disappointment in the opportunities lost.

Then I came back to the thread, refreshed to get caught up...and look what you did!   

NOW I realize, perhaps the plan, for do I believe Beth has a plan, is to let the movie speak for itself first and then begin another round of calling out for the truth next week.

    

 

[Tamikosmom]

OH OH OH!!!!

I just heard an advertisement for Natalee's Movie!!!!!   

I'm so excited!!! I just had to get to the puter and tell you guys!!!!   

LET THE STORY BE TOLD AND LET ALL THE WORLD HEAR!!!!! NATALEE HOLLOWAY WILL NOT GO AWAY! NATALEE WILL NOT BE FORGOTTEN!!!!

YES!!!


O/T

CBB

Would you please edit my avatar by taking away the Easter Lily and scripture while leaving only Ducky, the star and me.

Thanks and God Bless.

Janet

[crazybabyborg]

 

I'm sorry! I was so excited that I didn't even say hello!

Hi sweet Monkeys!!  It's Friday!!!!   

Let me give you a chuckle for the day................   

KeepThe Faith is now flying with the Eagles. Does that make him a US Bomber???   


http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c100/crazybabyborgs/4th%20of%20July/keep-the-faith.gif

    

2NJ? Check messages, please? 

[crazybabyborg]

OH OH OH!!!!

I just heard an advertisement for Natalee's Movie!!!!!   

I'm so excited!!! I just had to get to the puter and tell you guys!!!!   

LET THE STORY BE TOLD AND LET ALL THE WORLD HEAR!!!!! NATALEE HOLLOWAY WILL NOT GO AWAY! NATALEE WILL NOT BE FORGOTTEN!!!!

YES!!!


O/T

CBB

Would you please edit my avatar by taking away the Easter Lily and scripture while leaving only Ducky, the star and me.

Thanks and God Bless.

Janet

Sure thing, Janet!  I'll send it to Klaas and she'll have it changed in no time.   

[Magnolia]

Another interview on local news at noon. live via sattelite

Tracy:  The investigation is still on-going.  It is possible that this movie could
help to bring some information forward to help bring some answers for the family.
Beth is a very strong and impressive person and it was an honor to play the role.

[Tamikosmom]

I have seen three interviews with Tracy Pollan this morning.

All have been about half about Michael J. Fox, her husband, and their foundation for
 stem cell research and half about the Natalee movie.

Dianne Sawyer called the Natalee story compelling and emotional.
Elizabeth on the View teared up after viewing a scene of Beth realizing that Natalee was gone.
The other interview was a telephone interview on a local morning show.

Hey Monkeys

Michael J. Fox grew up in a neighbouring community on the other side of the Fraser River ... about a twenty minute drive.

One of my few claims to fame.  Sad.

 

Janet

[Tamikosmom]

Tracy will also be on The View.  Here is where you can watch it once it airs:

http://abc.go.com/player/index?pn=index&showId=167365

Hi all, I just signed in to let others know Tracy is up next on The View and I see Jen already posted it - but for those on east coast who can watch live it's in commercial now but Tracy is on next....

 

I received a message that implied only viewer in the US can access this video.

Hey ... I thought Canadians were considered family.  President Bush stated Canada and the United States were family when he attempted to justify why Canada was not included in the countries he thanked for allowing incoming planes to land on their soil and ... receiving passengers into their homes ... in the week following 9/11.

Janet

I was not able to find the video of Tracy on GMA....just Huckaby's ex-husband....I did just catch The View.  They spent most of the time on Michael's Parkinson's, the Foundation & family, but finished up with the movie.  The clip was heart wrenching....can't wait to see it.

Have to start getting ready for our wedding today, too.  Hotping and I have similar social events. 

Later....

Have fun 2NJ!!

Janet

[nonesuche]

Another interview on local news at noon. live via sattelite

Tracy:  The investigation is still on-going.  It is possible that this movie could
help to bring some information forward to help bring some answers for the family.
Beth is a very strong and impressive person and it was an honor to play the role.

I'm glad to hear she had the chance to say that, I felt The View really did focus more on Michael's illness but didn't give Tracy much of a chance to discuss the movie. Of course they spent about 20 minutes poking Matthew Perry's six-pack just prior to Tracy so that lets you know their preferred activity 

[Tamikosmom]

Another interview on local news at noon. live via sattelite

Tracy:  The investigation is still on-going.  It is possible that this movie could
help to bring some information forward to help bring some answers for the family.
Beth is a very strong and impressive person and it was an honor to play the role.

Thank you Magnolia.

I believe that Tracy is a very strong and impressive woman also.  Something akin to Beth ... following through is where it is at ... no backtracking on committment.

Janet

++++++

VOICE THAT WILL NOT BE SILENCED

'Scarborough Country' for Oct. 24th
updated 7:06 a.m. PT, Tues., Oct. 25, 2005

HOLLOWAY-TWITTY:  I met with Prime Minister Oduber. I don‘t care who you put the pressure on, where it comes from, but I want—you need to figure it out. You need to figure out who needs to apply the pressure and where it needs to be applied, because you have to solve this crime. I said, you do not want to turn me loose from this island without an answer.”

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9813596/


'Scarborough Country' for Oct. 24th
updated 7:06 a.m. PT, Tues., Oct. 25, 2005

BETH HOLLOWAY TWITTY, MOTHER OF NATALEE HOLLOWAY: ... I have told Prime Minister Oduber that I will do this, I will be the voice of Natalee for the next 40 years. And I hope I have that long, because I will do it as long as I can.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9813596/


Aruba Admission
Tuesday, August 23, 2005

TWITTY: I met him in his office. And you know, the main things that we went over in the meeting, Greta — you know, I wanted to make it perfectly clear that — you know, Aruba is a small island. We agreed upon that. And this island, you know, it's well connected. Everyone knows everyone. And I wanted to make sure he knew there's no way that I will accept not having answers as to where Natalee is. And if I have to spend the next 40 years being the voice for her out of Aruba

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,166524,00.html


'Rita Cosby Live & Direct' for Sept. 14th
updated 9:13 a.m. PT, Thurs., Sept. 15, 2005

TWITTY: We will keep going back to Aruba over and over again. This is far from over. They know—they have the answers there on the island.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9354188/


Mother confronts Aruba suspect
Holloway's mother questions Kalpoe about disappearance of missing teen

TWITTY:  I think it’s just the side that, you know, I—I will stop at nothing to get answers. There is nothing that I won’t do. There’s nowhere that I won’t go, and there’s nothing—I’m going to ask every question. I don’t care how painful it is. I will do it, because I’m not going to have any regrets.”

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/8885950/


Three men freed in Holloway case
Prosecutor: Judge's son, 2 others still under investigation
Monday, September 5, 2005; Posted: 5:43 a.m. EDT (09:43 GMT)

For the rest of my life, I will continue to be the voice for my daughter, seeking justice in Aruba. Every parent would want the same justice for their child.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/09/04/aruba.missing.teen/index.html


'Scarborough Country' for Oct. 24th
updated 7:06 a.m. PT, Tues., Oct. 25, 2005

BETH HOLLOWAY TWITTY, MOTHER OF NATALEE HOLLOWAY: ... I have told Prime Minister Oduber that I will do this, I will be the voice of Natalee for the next 40 years. And I hope I have that long, because I will do it as long as I can.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9813596/

[Keepthefaith]

BETH HOLLOWAY-TWITTY

"I said, you do not want to turn me loose from this island without an answer.”


 

[klaasend]