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« Reply #520 on: April 20, 2009, 11:08:29 AM »

The inaccuracies were hard to watch....but all in all, it makes me even madder at the perps and the cover up aruban and dutch a$$holes...
I'm sure it will bring a lot of attention to the cause for Justice for Natalee!
And THAT is what it is about!
The beige reporter must have been renho and the dark suited woman was introduced as the US State department rep on aruba.......the one who challenged Beth and Jug after Beth called the kalpoes criminals...
I hope this show makes our own state department question their own actions/or lack there of, on behalf of a US citizen denied justice while out of the US.....

I'm just catching up here - so this may have already been addressed.

Also the same woman who was seen at Joran's welcome home party when he was released from jail in September.

Jean Akers is her name, IIRC.

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  The island authorities originally planned to release the three suspects at two o-clock in the morning on Saturday, September 3.  The Strategic Communications Task Force undoubtedly helped them make a less conspicuous move and release them in the afternoon instead.  Curious to see the setup at the van der Sloot house for Joran's parade of victory, I drive by there, never in a million years expecting to see who is there.  It's the U.S. vice-consul.  At the van der Sloots' house.  Why is she here?   She spots me.  Jumps in her car and follows me to a resturant parking lot, waving, honking, calling on the cell phone.  I don't want to talk to her.  Who can we trust?
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« Reply #521 on: April 20, 2009, 11:40:28 AM »

I find it interesting that they show a boat parked at the vd Sloot home in this part of the show:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mypCXuybVQ&feature=channel_page


I find it interesting that they show a boat parked at the vd Sloot home in this part of the show:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mypCXuybVQ&feature=channel_page


Thank you so much jen.

A Lifetime move "Murder in the Hamptons" has been shown on several of our channels so ... maybe in time I will be privy to Beth's production

My heart goes out to Jug Twitty in this clip.

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  Jug has supported me through this entire nightmare.  And we have done everything we can.


'Scarborough Country' for July 14
updated 8:45 a.m. PT, Fri., July. 15, 2005


JUG TWITTY, NATALEE HOLLOWAY'S STEPFATHER: Beth and I have been through this emotional roller coaster. And all we want is Natalee, whether she's alive or dead. We want to bring her back to the United States, and we'll leave and they can do whatever they want to do.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8551824/

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« Reply #522 on: April 20, 2009, 11:44:08 AM »

The inaccuracies were hard to watch....but all in all, it makes me even madder at the perps and the cover up aruban and dutch a$$holes...
I'm sure it will bring a lot of attention to the cause for Justice for Natalee!
And THAT is what it is about!
The beige reporter must have been renho and the dark suited woman was introduced as the US State department rep on aruba.......the one who challenged Beth and Jug after Beth called the kalpoes criminals...
I hope this show makes our own state department question their own actions/or lack there of, on behalf of a US citizen denied justice while out of the US.....

I'm just catching up here - so this may have already been addressed.

Also the same woman who was seen at Joran's welcome home party when he was released from jail in September.

Jean Akers is her name, IIRC.

Beth Holloway
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  The island authorities originally planned to release the three suspects at two o-clock in the morning on Saturday, September 3.  The Strategic Communications Task Force undoubtedly helped them make a less conspicuous move and release them in the afternoon instead.  Curious to see the setup at the van der Sloot house for Joran's parade of victory, I drive by there, never in a million years expecting to see who is there.  It's the U.S. vice-consul.  At the van der Sloots' house.  Why is she here?   She spots me.  Jumps in her car and follows me to a resturant parking lot, waving, honking, calling on the cell phone.  I don't want to talk to her.  Who can we trust?


Thanks Janet!
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« Reply #523 on: April 20, 2009, 11:47:19 AM »

Janet

Carpe still has the movie on youtube (8 parts):

http://www.youtube.com/user/bigjuicykungfu
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« Reply #524 on: April 20, 2009, 11:48:59 AM »


Janet,

It looks like Carpe's videos of the movie are still up.  If you can watch You-Tubes, I think these are the links:

Part 1:     http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzsA1K9ROTg&feature=channel_page

Part 2:     http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqBjjKiYSK8&feature=channel_page

Part 3:     http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jh5BupWIgac&feature=channel_page

Part 4:     http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PdMiFNZ-FI&feature=channel_page

Part 5:     http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVoVwdbNsRs&feature=channel_page

Part 6:     http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CtnNIaTru4&feature=channel_page

Part 7:     http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mypCXuybVQ&feature=channel_page

Part 8:     http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qz6FrcRuj8I&feature=channel_page

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« Reply #525 on: April 20, 2009, 12:01:55 PM »

Well....I just watched the movie and I will be quite honest I do not know how or what I think about it yet.....Other than that Julie never in her life looked so good and the guy who played Joran was to good looking.....Tracy did an excellent portrayal of Beth....And I wish that it could have been a mini series so that They could have told more of the facts.  I don't believe that Natalee was all over Joran like was shown....I'm glad that some of Devries taped portion was shown.....I hope that They are gearing up to make a part two because there is much more to the story that needs to be told and shown to the world.....JMO

Good Night All! It has been a long weekend and I'm calling it a night!

Janet, Lifesong and All Monkeys who helped with the new timeline it is excellent and any new Monkeys or Guests will find it Very Helpful in learning just what has been going on in this case for the last 4 years and why We are still here and why it is not over.... 

Justice For Natalee and Her Family! 

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How was the family gathering?  I hope you had a good weekend.

Was there a special on the Breakfast menu this morning.

 

I never saw Beth's production but ... it does appear that the darkside cannot claim that Beth presented a slanted portrayal of her daughter.

Maybe Beth went with Joran's account of events to make a point ... Natalee Holloway's actions did not provide a pass for any wronging to be committed against her person.

Following graduation when eldest son and friend travelled to Huntington Beach in California for a surfing holiday and stayed for the summer against his father and my wishes ... I can just bet his lifestyle did not reflect his upbringing.

So who knows what Beth may have learned about her daughter from other MB students ...


 
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Transcript: Dave Holloway Reacts to Joran van der Sloot Interview
Tuesday, February 28, 2006


MACCALLUM: When you listen to some of the details, you know, some pretty graphic details about what was going on in that bar — he claimed that he was doing jelly shots, which I guess you sort of drink off somebody's stomach as they lay on the bar, all sorts of things about your daughter and what was going on there. What I'm curious about is did any of those connect with what her friends told you, who were also there in the bar with her that night?

HOLLOWAY: I think they, all the kids were there for, of course, their high school graduation, and they were all having a good time. And you know, I understand that some of that is true.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,186309,00.html


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« Reply #526 on: April 20, 2009, 12:04:11 PM »


Janet,

It looks like Carpe's videos of the movie are still up.  If you can watch You-Tubes, I think these are the links:

Part 1:     http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzsA1K9ROTg&feature=channel_page

Part 2:     http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqBjjKiYSK8&feature=channel_page

Part 3:     http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jh5BupWIgac&feature=channel_page

Part 4:     http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PdMiFNZ-FI&feature=channel_page

Part 5:     http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVoVwdbNsRs&feature=channel_page

Part 6:     http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CtnNIaTru4&feature=channel_page

Part 7:     http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mypCXuybVQ&feature=channel_page

Part 8:     http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qz6FrcRuj8I&feature=channel_page




 

Thanks!!!

Obviously ... I still have some catching up to do.

 

Janet
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« Reply #527 on: April 20, 2009, 12:08:09 PM »

The inaccuracies were hard to watch....but all in all, it makes me even madder at the perps and the cover up aruban and dutch a$$holes...
I'm sure it will bring a lot of attention to the cause for Justice for Natalee!
And THAT is what it is about!
The beige reporter must have been renho and the dark suited woman was introduced as the US State department rep on aruba.......the one who challenged Beth and Jug after Beth called the kalpoes criminals...
I hope this show makes our own state department question their own actions/or lack there of, on behalf of a US citizen denied justice while out of the US.....

I'm just catching up here - so this may have already been addressed.

Also the same woman who was seen at Joran's welcome home party when he was released from jail in September.

Jean Akers is her name, IIRC.

Beth Holloway
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Page 185:
  The island authorities originally planned to release the three suspects at two o-clock in the morning on Saturday, September 3.  The Strategic Communications Task Force undoubtedly helped them make a less conspicuous move and release them in the afternoon instead.  Curious to see the setup at the van der Sloot house for Joran's parade of victory, I drive by there, never in a million years expecting to see who is there.  It's the U.S. vice-consul.  At the van der Sloots' house.  Why is she here?   She spots me.  Jumps in her car and follows me to a resturant parking lot, waving, honking, calling on the cell phone.  I don't want to talk to her.  Who can we trust?


Thanks Janet!

Justice for Natalee Holloway never stood a chance.  Natalee's family was hitting a brick wall all the way.

 

Janet



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« Reply #528 on: April 20, 2009, 12:11:45 PM »

Back in a couple of hours ... hubby and I are at the movies.

 

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« Reply #529 on: April 20, 2009, 12:35:43 PM »

    

My son recorded the movie on his DVR, and I know it's now playing again (started at Noon here), but THANKS TO CARPE, I was able to see the film, and can watch it in full, later. 
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« Reply #530 on: April 20, 2009, 12:57:36 PM »

Good Day...

I am watching the movie now on youtube.
I am at my desk crying and MAD!! 
My stomach is in knots....
WE WILL NEVER GIVE UP ON FINDING OUT THE TRUTH ARUBA!!!

I WILL ALWAYS STAND WITH THE GIRL, NATALEE HOLLOWAY, BETH, DAVE and her family!

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« Reply #531 on: April 20, 2009, 01:43:56 PM »

4/20/2009 Awe Mainta Page 3

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Papimentu translation:

pelicula of natalee holloway was one fiasco overall

yesterday evening majority of we hendenan was stick at television for see the pelicula on nataee holloway his desaparicion at aruba. everybody wanted owing to look at con they will interpreta the storia of the young mericano cu owing to desaparece on we island 4 year happen.hopi of we will owing to think cu the pelicula here will owing to rebiba the bad imagen cu we island owing to achieve for enough time y cu assure had his efecto negative on we turism, but thing owing to resulta of the pelicula was one fiasco overall, caminda cu owing to pesar of the tragedy of one mother, the was look like more one comedia.na previous to lugar have to tell cu if they wanted owing to imita aruba lifetime have to owing to busca one lugar cu one bit more similaridadnan cu we island, because all the scenarionan was cualkier cos less similar at esunnan of aruba. at of two lugar can menciona cu owing to pesar cu beth twitty at various ocasion, for not tell always, owing to critica we sistema hudicial, thing the pelicula owing to show is one cuerpo policial saca for of one comedia caminda one ‘detective’ is tell cu the not have time for atendenan because the have to bay come his corn flakes y bay shave previous to. come on!!! logicamente not can owing to miss the declaracionnan of we flamante minister of husticia rudy croes cu owing to tell cu jan van der straten owing to sconde informacion in the caso because the ta(bata) amigo of paul van der sloot. in the pelicula they owing to haci is same cu beth y his casa owing to look at jan y paul braza another, y here they will owing to conclui cu is tapando for joran van der sloot. not can stay without menciona the rol of beth, cual can cierto the actriz owing to let much of desea, caminda cu only they owing to pase hour the was sufriendo y at none instant hour the was bebiendo y hungando in casino. logicamente esey not can owing to wordo happen, de will contrario the will owing to less credibilidad at the pelicula. igualmente have to menciona cu they owing to draw natalee as past owing to wordo draw till now, one child muher cu do not kill one musca, siendo cu another declaracionnan is indica cu not was so. comentarionan at merca self after of the pelicula was much negative for cu this y the fright cu we can had on the efecto of this for we island, is practicamente not existente.
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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #532 on: April 20, 2009, 01:57:31 PM »

I read an Antillian news blurb...seems that Dilma Arends said that no one had a sign to say Beth go home, as portrayed in the movie.  Black Tulip, at RU repeated that (?are they related?). The Arubans did protest Beth and tell her to go home.  It was not a support the justice department.  It was a protest Beth.

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« Reply #533 on: April 20, 2009, 02:06:22 PM »

I didn't understand all of the article, but was really not surprised by the reaction in the Aruban newspaper. 

Nice to know they were all glued to the television last night, surely a few of them can think for themselves.  There's no doubt in my mind that some of them know from personal experience how the judicial system works in Aruba; especially when it comes to the seemingly untouchable offspring of some that are part of or are connected to the government.

I'd be willing to bet some of them have seen Jacobs in the local grocery stocking up on Frosted Flakes too!

 
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #534 on: April 20, 2009, 02:07:18 PM »

Back in a couple of hours ... hubby and I are at the movies.

 

Janet

Thank you Carpe.  Other than NATALEE HOLLOWAY 3 we were able to view the entire movie.

Hopefully ... the movie was a reminder to all who viewed ... those who were involved in the events encompassing the morning of May 30, 2005 when Natalee Holloway went missing were guilty as "H---" but were never held accountable.

I do wish the coverup/corruption aspect was covered to at least some degree.

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RITA COSBY: Chief—you said to me even before this interview that you believe the boys are guilty as hell. Do you believe they‘re involved in her disappearance?

GEROLD DOMPIG: Yes.

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/9910586/from/RL.3/

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« Reply #535 on: April 20, 2009, 02:08:20 PM »

I read an Antillian news blurb...seems that Dilma Arends said that no one had a sign to say Beth go home, as portrayed in the movie.  Black Tulip, at RU repeated that (?are they related?). The Arubans did protest Beth and tell her to go home.  It was not a support the justice department.  It was a protest Beth.



That was Merriweather who put that protest together, wasn't it?

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« Reply #536 on: April 20, 2009, 02:09:03 PM »



I read at the Lifetime site that they are going to make it available online in a few days too!

 
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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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« Reply #537 on: April 20, 2009, 02:12:27 PM »

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pelicula of natalee holloway owing to estrena

 sunday, 19 april 2009 - 23:46

 diadomingo night owing to estrena the pelicula "natalee holloway" at lifetime movie network. the pelicula owing to wordo much propaganda y the entusiasmo for look at the here at aruba was much mixto. much is esnan cu owing to dicidi cu they not have interest for look at the pelicula y others owing to disidi cu they if was wanted owing to look at con aruba y the situation owing to wordo ilustra in the pelicula. upstairs the imagen can see beth twitty together cu two of the actornan cu the play beth twitty y his casa. have to menciona cu at none instant the pelicula owing to wordo graba at aruba. 24ora.com wanted know what you is opina after of owing to look at the pelicula come across? come across
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« Reply #538 on: April 20, 2009, 02:12:45 PM »

We had many pictures of the protest.. Later that turned into implied threats.. after that there were actual threats of bodily harm... Beth being followed.
The Arubans claim there HATE is driven by job loss due to the Boycott of Aruba driven by Beth Twitty..
 Dave was not threatened at all while he was in Aruba.. Noting that Robin even keeps some Aruban citizens as close friends.. Nobody protested him.
I do not know about after he wrote his book.
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« Reply #539 on: April 20, 2009, 02:16:44 PM »

I read an Antillian news blurb...seems that Dilma Arends said that no one had a sign to say Beth go home, as portrayed in the movie.  Black Tulip, at RU repeated that (?are they related?). The Arubans did protest Beth and tell her to go home.  It was not a support the justice department.  It was a protest Beth.



That was Merriweather who put that protest together, wasn't it?


I don't know if he actually put it together, but I wouldn't doubt it.  I do remember him being the "spokesperson".

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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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