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« Reply #900 on: April 22, 2009, 05:34:32 PM »

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Read the posts carefully.

On one hand ... the writing style is meant to imply that the poster does not have a complete grasp on the English language by making simply spelling errors while ... on the other hand ... the terminology, spelling of more difficult words and punctuation is right on.

Also ... the implication of the words is that the pond should still be the focus of attention.

I have been there ... done that and ... not about to go back.

I hate deception.

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« Reply #901 on: April 22, 2009, 05:36:25 PM »


Sorry for the strange  post Klaasend.last night i send you to the book.
it is all over here in nl now, radio, internet, magazines television etc...

Well Jaap is not that loving person here in NL. He has taken serveral different names.

Also he is a pathologic lier. In a show that he atemp to join he won. Now in the past a funds called KIKA (a fund for children does have cancer) provided Jaap a cheque of a huge amount. All because of the lies 

the contact that Jaap has would be investigated later on i think




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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #720 2/3 -
« Reply #557 on: February 03, 2008, 09:41:31 PM »


Dave is now the Key to prove this lier wrong.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2567.msg338792;topicseen#msg338792

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« Reply #902 on: April 22, 2009, 05:37:47 PM »


indeed i don't know if it end as it should. but why now?? why after a small year since Thailand, back in NL?
does he need to proof something that we allready know or knew about him????

but dave, Natalee dad's, does he really went even under the mud? Sonar doesn't pick up things under the mud i think.




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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #784 12/8/08 -
« Reply #925 on: December 13, 2008, 06:18:09 AM »


The dutch has spoken allready.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4227.msg580535;topicseen#msg580535


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Re: SHANGO/SIMIAN - who are they and what did they know? #3
« Reply #130 on: April 16, 2008, 03:58:11 AM »


USA allready arrested Miakito Farro who is accused of money laundring in the Labroratory of the government.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2787.msg374282;topicseen#msg374282


CapsLockWizard
Re: SHANGO/SIMIAN - who are they and what did they know? #2
« Reply #1504 on: April 07, 2008, 02:03:47 PM »


Shango point me to it and it is here were I left last night.

under reasech. I got allready the PM

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2733.msg371821#msg371821


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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #737 2/29 -
« Reply #608 on: March 01, 2008, 05:21:49 PM
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There is allready for a long time a working realtion in place between Aruba and Holland it is called the RST group

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2662.msg358491;topicseen#msg358491


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Re: SHANGO/SIMIAN - who are they and what did they know?
« Reply #2377 on: February 20, 2008, 06:48:49 AM »


Are insects conned into entering Venus Flytraps?
I have posted something abouth this allready

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=1952.msg353266;topicseen#msg353266


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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #719 2/02
« Reply #198 on: February 02, 2008, 10:31:46 PM »


Wel if what he is saying is that the current investigation is about this two lunatic than we know allready where this is going.... no where... That is why there is no arrest.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2564.msg337365;topicseen#msg337365


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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #718 2/01 -
« Reply #495 on: February 02, 2008, 04:42:41 AM »


It is allready so, Wait when he open the gates of info...The server overload.. The network bumper to bumper of packets waiting to get a peek of whats going on....

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2561.msg336617;topicseen#msg336617


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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #717 1/31 - 2/01/08
« Reply #912 on: February 01, 2008, 07:27:22 PM »


They play the MASTER KEY Card once allready and it is still valid... The MASTER KEY card can be used Again even if he confess,

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2560.msg335995;topicseen#msg335995


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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #716 1/29 -
« Reply #731 on: January 31, 2008, 06:30:02 PM »


Magi Magic...So you must know everything allready. to setup a long broadcast.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2548.msg334776;topicseen#msg334776

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« Reply #903 on: April 22, 2009, 06:19:13 PM »

Janet, please don't be upset.  I didn't take Nut's comment as against you.

I will tell you when I read that post today I started to log in and reply to it and say "Caps, is that you?".  But I thought better leave it alone.  So you were not alone in thinking that. 
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« Reply #904 on: April 22, 2009, 06:20:49 PM »

Here is a link to a videoclip of the news-item in SBS6 Shownieuws tonight.

http://tinyurl.com/d4e9ah

Rough transcript and translation:

Voice over: This is an exclusive fragment of an already noted program that probably will go around the world. Here we see JvdS at a polygraph-test.
Joran: If I could do it again now and if I could have thought it over I wouldn’t have done it.
Terror Jaap: The ultimate initiator in the whole Joran-demonising-project is simply Joran himself. Isn’t it a good idea then to stop this whole unfunny business?
Joran: That’s what my parents have asked me more then once too.

Voice over: According to Jaap and the producers of the program, the outcomes of this show will be worldnews.
JvdS will answer this one big question that still haunts everybody: Did you murder Natalee Holloway.

The Limburg television-network TVEllef on its website says Jaap coïncidently came in contact with VdSloot who is a big fan of Terror Jaap from the ‘Golden Cage’-program. Together they decided to secretly record a television-show. Jaap doubted if Joran would tell the truth this time and came with the idea of a polygraph test.VdSloot agreed with that.
John vd Heuvel (crime reporter) is critical about the polygraph test: “In the end it doesn’t say that much. It’s an initiative that will generate some publicity... But will it bring the truth to the surface... I don’t realy think that to be honest.
Voice over explains how a polygraphic investigation works: stress measurement.
Annette Heldense is the psychologist-researcher who took the test from Joran: the reliability if you do the test in the right way, is around 90 to 95%.
Voice over: In a polygraph test it is very important to ask the questions in a very precise way. Etc. Example with girl.
Voice over: Joran is still in Holland and is in hiding again. So we have to wait for the answer to that one, very big question untill the program has been sold.

Shownieuws-host later in the studio (not in this clip): SBS6 has not bought the program (yet). They might renegotiate it.

Next monday an interview with Jaap.

Btw: Heldense trained in the U.S. to become a polygraphic researcher. She works at the Van Mesdag clinic in an experiment with the polygraph to evaluate if former sex offenders can go on leave and/or be  released.
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« Reply #905 on: April 22, 2009, 06:22:01 PM »

Not that it means anything, but Caps & DiSetti have the same time zone setting in their profile.   
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« Reply #906 on: April 22, 2009, 06:25:19 PM »

Here is a link to a videoclip of the news-item in SBS6 Shownieuws tonight.

http://tinyurl.com/d4e9ah

Rough transcript and translation:

Voice over: This is an exclusive fragment of an already noted program that probably will go around the world. Here we see JvdS at a polygraph-test.
Joran: If I could do it again now and if I could have thought it over I wouldn’t have done it.
Terror Jaap: The ultimate initiator in the whole Joran-demonising-project is simply Joran himself. Isn’t it a good idea then to stop this whole unfunny business?
Joran: That’s what my parents have asked me more then once too.

Voice over: According to Jaap and the producers of the program, the outcomes of this show will be worldnews.
JvdS will answer this one big question that still haunts everybody: Did you murder Natalee Holloway.

The Limburg television-network TVEllef on its website says Jaap coïncidently came in contact with VdSloot who is a big fan of Terror Jaap from the ‘Golden Cage’-program. Together they decided to secretly record a television-show. Jaap doubted if Joran would tell the truth this time and came with the idea of a polygraph test.VdSloot agreed with that.
John vd Heuvel (crime reporter) is critical about the polygraph test: “In the end it doesn’t say that much. It’s an initiative that will generate some publicity... But will it bring the truth to the surface... I don’t realy think that to be honest.
Voice over explains how a polygraphic investigation works: stress measurement.
Annette Heldense is the psychologist-researcher who took the test from Joran: the reliability if you do the test in the right way, is around 90 to 95%.
Voice over: In a polygraph test it is very important to ask the questions in a very precise way. Etc. Example with girl.
Voice over: Joran is still in Holland and is in hiding again. So we have to wait for the answer to that one, very big question untill the program has been sold.

Shownieuws-host later in the studio (not in this clip): SBS6 has not bought the program (yet). They might renegotiate it.

Next monday an interview with Jaap.

Btw: Heldense trained in the U.S. to become a polygraphic researcher. She works at the Van Mesdag clinic in an experiment with the polygraph to evaluate if former sex offenders can go on leave and/or be  released.


Thanks, EURobert.   Do you think anyone will buy this program?   
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« Reply #907 on: April 22, 2009, 06:30:32 PM »

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Thanks, EURobert.   Do you think anyone will buy this program?   

Well, I hadn't mentioned yet that it is a show of approx. an hour and a half so I think there will be SOME answers and SOME news. And it is a 'hot' topic so... I guess so.
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« Reply #908 on: April 22, 2009, 06:30:50 PM »

Thanks EURobert!  What do you make of this?
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« Reply #909 on: April 22, 2009, 06:35:07 PM »

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Thanks, EURobert.   Do you think anyone will buy this program?   

Well, I hadn't mentioned yet that it is a show of approx. an hour and a half so I think there will be SOME answers and SOME news. And it is a 'hot' topic so... I guess so.

Time will tell, I guess.  Thanks and keep us posted. 
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« Reply #910 on: April 22, 2009, 06:35:15 PM »

Thanks EURobert!  What do you make of this?

When I first heard it I thought it was just a promo for the new talkshow of this Terror Jaap that was promised to him by the RTL-television-network. But then I heard he hadn't gotten his talkshow.
It's his own initiative... Together with VdScum... So... I think it's a money-generator in the first place. But then it has to have SOME interesting stuff in it?
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« Reply #911 on: April 22, 2009, 06:35:45 PM »


indeed i don't know if it end as it should. but why now?? why after a small year since Thailand, back in NL?
does he need to proof something that we allready know or knew about him????

but dave, Natalee dad's, does he really went even under the mud? Sonar doesn't pick up things under the mud i think.




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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #784 12/8/08 -
« Reply #925 on: December 13, 2008, 06:18:09 AM »


The dutch has spoken allready.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4227.msg580535;topicseen#msg580535


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Re: SHANGO/SIMIAN - who are they and what did they know? #3
« Reply #130 on: April 16, 2008, 03:58:11 AM »


USA allready arrested Miakito Farro who is accused of money laundring in the Labroratory of the government.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2787.msg374282;topicseen#msg374282


CapsLockWizard
Re: SHANGO/SIMIAN - who are they and what did they know? #2
« Reply #1504 on: April 07, 2008, 02:03:47 PM »


Shango point me to it and it is here were I left last night.

under reasech. I got allready the PM

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2733.msg371821#msg371821


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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #737 2/29 -
« Reply #608 on: March 01, 2008, 05:21:49 PM
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There is allready for a long time a working realtion in place between Aruba and Holland it is called the RST group

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2662.msg358491;topicseen#msg358491


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Re: SHANGO/SIMIAN - who are they and what did they know?
« Reply #2377 on: February 20, 2008, 06:48:49 AM »


Are insects conned into entering Venus Flytraps?
I have posted something abouth this allready

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=1952.msg353266;topicseen#msg353266


CapsLockWizard
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #719 2/02
« Reply #198 on: February 02, 2008, 10:31:46 PM »


Wel if what he is saying is that the current investigation is about this two lunatic than we know allready where this is going.... no where... That is why there is no arrest.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2564.msg337365;topicseen#msg337365


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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #718 2/01 -
« Reply #495 on: February 02, 2008, 04:42:41 AM »


It is allready so, Wait when he open the gates of info...The server overload.. The network bumper to bumper of packets waiting to get a peek of whats going on....

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2561.msg336617;topicseen#msg336617


CapsLockWizard
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #717 1/31 - 2/01/08
« Reply #912 on: February 01, 2008, 07:27:22 PM »


They play the MASTER KEY Card once allready and it is still valid... The MASTER KEY card can be used Again even if he confess,

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2560.msg335995;topicseen#msg335995


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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #716 1/29 -
« Reply #731 on: January 31, 2008, 06:30:02 PM »


Magi Magic...So you must know everything allready. to setup a long broadcast.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2548.msg334776;topicseen#msg334776

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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #789
<< Reply #115 on: January 02, 2009, 02:17:45 AM »

 

Investigate, but never assume and make thing up or cut and paste and reassamble what people said to proof your own view without knowing the real context in which that particular text was written or no even knowing what was the question to the origin of the text.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4340.msg608323#msg608323


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« Reply #912 on: April 22, 2009, 06:40:56 PM »

Lifesong

Caps paid the forum a visit undercover.  What a coward!!

Janet
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« Reply #913 on: April 22, 2009, 06:46:29 PM »

Good Morning, Janet,

Are you sure you are not   




I LOVE it lmaoooo Anna 

Nut ...  laugh it up at my expense.

I do not appreciated being accused of BSing when I provide backup to my suspicions.  After all I have done for the Natalee Holloway cause ... I deserve better by Monkeys on this forum.

Janet

Janet~  I'm sorry if you felt this post was disrespectful to you, but when I read it, I didn't take it to mean disrespect at all.  jmho 

HUH? is right...I have no idea why I have pissed Janet off. I thought Anna's smiley was funny. Oh well...back to my cave ...
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« Reply #914 on: April 22, 2009, 06:47:37 PM »

Janet, please don't be upset.  I didn't take Nut's comment as against you.

I will tell you when I read that post today I started to log in and reply to it and say "Caps, is that you?".  But I thought better leave it alone.  So you were not alone in thinking that. 

I just felt that my research was being undermine without an explanation  but ... I may have misunderstood the meaning of the cartoon.  I showed my son and ... said the meaning was positive.

I apology Anna and Nut.

I got a hinky feeling right away when I read those posts but ... then thought I was just being too suspicious but ... when Lifesong had the courage to post her Hinky Alert ... I began my digging.

Janet.
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« Reply #915 on: April 22, 2009, 06:52:10 PM »

Janet, please don't be upset.  I didn't take Nut's comment as against you.

I will tell you when I read that post today I started to log in and reply to it and say "Caps, is that you?".  But I thought better leave it alone.  So you were not alone in thinking that. 

I just felt that my research was being undermine without an explanation  but ... I may have misunderstood the meaning of the cartoon.  I showed my son and ... said the meaning was positive.

I apology Anna and Nut.

I got a hinky feeling right away when I read those posts but ... then thought I was just being too suspicious but ... when Lifesong had the courage to post her Hinky Alert ... I began my digging.

Janet.

Janet,

Sometimes you underestimate the comprehension skills of your co-members here.  We got it.        
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« Reply #916 on: April 22, 2009, 06:55:52 PM »

Lifesong

Caps paid the forum a visit undercover.  What a coward!!

Janet

Let see.

DiSetti and Caps both:

1.  Begin sentences in the lowers case.
2.  Misspell "Liar"
3.  Misspell "Already"
4.  Same terminology "To Proof"

The principle applies in all walks of life ...

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« Reply #917 on: April 22, 2009, 06:58:09 PM »

Janet, please don't be upset.  I didn't take Nut's comment as against you.

I will tell you when I read that post today I started to log in and reply to it and say "Caps, is that you?".  But I thought better leave it alone.  So you were not alone in thinking that. 

I just felt that my research was being undermine without an explanation  but ... I may have misunderstood the meaning of the cartoon.  I showed my son and ... said the meaning was positive.

I apology Anna and Nut.

I got a hinky feeling right away when I read those posts but ... then thought I was just being too suspicious but ... when Lifesong had the courage to post her Hinky Alert ... I began my digging.

Janet.

Janet,

Sometimes you underestimate the comprehension skills of your co-members here.  We got it.        

... and I overestimate my comprehension.  It is called self-pride and ... self-pride can sure get you into hot water.

Again ... I apology to Anny and Nut.
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« Reply #918 on: April 22, 2009, 06:58:41 PM »

Lifesong

Caps paid the forum a visit undercover.  What a coward!!

Janet

Exactly!
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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #919 on: April 22, 2009, 07:00:39 PM »



O.K. now somebody tell me what the guy on the horse that Anna posted means.  I didn't get it.

 

(but I didn't think she was being mean...just didn't know what it meant)   
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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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