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Author Topic: 8 Year Old Victoria “Tori” Stafford Missing Since 4/8/09 in Ontario, Canada  (Read 370143 times)
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« Reply #440 on: May 20, 2009, 03:22:55 PM »

Conference over.

News now recapping conference:

Not a whole lot of info.  Talked about at end of conference police talked about McClintic and Tara McDonald may have had a relationship.  Police would not comment if 18 year old knew Tori.  Officers and crews in Guelph area currently searching for Tori's body.  Police confirmed nothing has been found regardless of rumours. 
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« Reply #441 on: May 20, 2009, 03:24:57 PM »

Q  Can you speak if there is a sexual component to this case?

A.  The matter is before the court, I can not speak to that.

Q.  Why was the Amber alert not issued?

A.  Because the criteria of Tori's disappearance to not satisfy the criteria of the Amber Alert.




IMO, this whole system needs to be revamped!
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« Reply #442 on: May 20, 2009, 03:27:23 PM »

18 year old was from Woodstock, had moved away and then came back recently.

28 year old lives at home.  Mom and Dad are not speaking.  Neighbours did not know him at all.

Community are in shock and distress.  Outpouring of condolences at Tara McDonald's home.

Talking about rumours that surfaced about Tara. None of it were substantiated. 

Question now is was there a sexual motive, and police would not comment about it during news conference.
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« Reply #443 on: May 20, 2009, 03:29:58 PM »

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McClintic may have been with the police in the Guelph area and she is co-operating.  Both have been charged with the highest charges possible in the Canadian legal system.  25 years on charges. May have to serve 1/3 of sentence and out on good behaviour. 
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« Reply #444 on: May 20, 2009, 03:30:10 PM »

http://lfpress.ca/newsstand/News/Local/2009/05/20/9510571.html

KateatLFPress LIVE Updates via Twitter
Reporter: Have you found the crime scene? Cop: No. 6 minutes ago
One of the accused was already in custody on another matter: Renton. No other arrests expected. 8 minutes ago
Random act? Can't say, says Renton. Motive? Can't say, says Renton. 9 minutes ago
Now, media questions. Now, cops are looking for Tori. LFPress reporter asks, when did you zero in on these suspects? 10 minutes ago
We all wanted Tori to be found safe and sound. Yesterday was a very hard day: Renton 13 minutes ago
Now OPP Det Insp Bill Renton: we won't stop until we find Tori and return her to her family. 14 minutes ago
We failed to reunite Tori with her mother: Fraser 15 minutes ago
Solace can be taken that now kids will be safer cause of increased awareness: Fraser. 16 minutes ago
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« Reply #445 on: May 20, 2009, 03:30:37 PM »

Conference over.

News now recapping conference:

Not a whole lot of info.  Talked about at end of conference police talked about McClintic and Tara McDonald may have had a relationship.  Police would not comment if 18 year old knew Tori.  Officers and crews in Guelph area currently searching for Tori's body.  Police confirmed nothing has been found regardless of rumours. 

So,  I suppose there is no chance that maybe this girl lied to police about tori being killed?   
This happend couple of days after we found the body of Sandra...
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« Reply #446 on: May 20, 2009, 03:38:34 PM »

Conference over.

News now recapping conference:

Not a whole lot of info.  Talked about at end of conference police talked about McClintic and Tara McDonald may have had a relationship.  Police would not comment if 18 year old knew Tori.  Officers and crews in Guelph area currently searching for Tori's body.  Police confirmed nothing has been found regardless of rumours. 

So,  I suppose there is no chance that maybe this girl lied to police about tori being killed?   
This happend couple of days after we found the body of Sandra...

No Tracygirl.  I don't think there is any hope of that. 
When asked how they determined murder charges they said based on evidence.
It would be outrageous and irresponsible for the Crown to charge based on possibility of a lie. They have evidence, sadly.
Only hope left now I guess, is to find Tori swiftly.
 

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« Reply #447 on: May 20, 2009, 03:40:14 PM »

NorthernRose and scribe extraordinare -  Thank you!!!!!!!!!!
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« Reply #448 on: May 20, 2009, 03:40:58 PM »

Q  Can you speak if there is a sexual component to this case?

A.  The matter is before the court, I can not speak to that.

Q.  Why was the Amber alert not issued?

A.  Because the criteria of Tori's disappearance to not satisfy the criteria of the Amber Alert.




IMO, this whole system needs to be revamped!
You've got that right  Northern Rose thanks for the info from the presser.
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« Reply #449 on: May 20, 2009, 03:45:50 PM »

I am without words....   I am so sorry and so sad  for Tori, her family, her friends... 
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« Reply #450 on: May 20, 2009, 03:49:01 PM »

I think McClintok looks like the person on the composite only a little chunkier than I had imagined.
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« Reply #451 on: May 20, 2009, 03:51:27 PM »

Q  Can you speak if there is a sexual component to this case?

A.  The matter is before the court, I can not speak to that.

Q.  Why was the Amber alert not issued?

A.  Because the criteria of Tori's disappearance to not satisfy the criteria of the Amber Alert.

I will NEVER understand why an Amber Alert wasn't sent out. I don't care what they say. She DID fit the criteria!!!!
A stranger took her!
I'm sure heads will roll over this.



IMO, this whole system needs to be revamped!
You've got that right  Northern Rose thanks for the info from the presser.
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« Reply #452 on: May 20, 2009, 03:53:42 PM »

uh, I don't know what happened with my last post.

Anyways my response was supposed to be:

I will NEVER understand why an Amber Alert wasn't sent out. I don't care what they say. She DID fit the criteria!!!!
A stranger took her!
I'm sure heads will roll over this.
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« Reply #453 on: May 20, 2009, 03:53:44 PM »

I am without words....   I am so sorry and so sad  for Tori, her family, her friends... 

Hugs to you Tracy.  Your caring is needed in this world, though I know it takes a toll.

and to think the family, in their grief, still has to wait to have Tori returned is unimaginable.


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« Reply #454 on: May 20, 2009, 03:56:37 PM »

Next court date May 28th.  They will be there via video from jail not in person in the court.  Bail hearing takes place in Superior court, not lower court.  That will take at least a month from now.  Someone on first degree murder rarely make bail.
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« Reply #455 on: May 20, 2009, 03:56:51 PM »

Maybe the police could re educate themselves too. Waited way too long to go from a missing person to an abduction. I think it was because Tori was with a woman, not a man; she wasn't fighting and went willingly. Who knows what Tori was told by this excuse for a human. It wasn't stellar police work that solved this one. The public was engaged in solving this. Close to home, and she walked with this woman right out in open and in the daylight hours in small town Canada. This is frightening. People are going to demand the police look at their investigation and the way this one was handled.
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« Reply #456 on: May 20, 2009, 03:57:00 PM »

Q  Can you speak if there is a sexual component to this case?

A.  The matter is before the court, I can not speak to that.

Q.  Why was the Amber alert not issued?

A.  Because the criteria of Tori's disappearance to not satisfy the criteria of the Amber Alert.




IMO, this whole system needs to be revamped!
You've got that right  Northern Rose thanks for the info from the presser.
I will NEVER understand why an Amber Alert wasn't sent out. I don't care what they say. She DID fit the criteria!!!!
A stranger took her!
I'm sure heads will roll over this.

I hope you are right Victorian, Justice for Tori! an angelic monkey
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« Reply #457 on: May 20, 2009, 03:57:54 PM »

uh, I don't know what happened with my last post.

Anyways my response was supposed to be:

I will NEVER understand why an Amber Alert wasn't sent out. I don't care what they say. She DID fit the criteria!!!!
A stranger took her!
I'm sure heads will roll over this.
The Police Chiefs explanation was a poor one, claiming he got it out to the press immediately.
Although the Police Chief says it would not have made a difference - we will never know - and that too is tragic.  mo
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« Reply #458 on: May 20, 2009, 04:00:08 PM »

Sorry got a call from work there (they have such bad timing)!  Captured a few images from the live search.
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« Reply #459 on: May 20, 2009, 04:05:48 PM »

News interviewing McClintic's grandmother.
She is very sorry  for this.  She has not seen McClintic for several years.  Terry-Lynn had a very tough life and she blames her upbringing.  She claims that Terry-Lynn beat up her mom and son and she lied to get what she wanted.  When asked if Terry-Lynn was a drug addict grandma said could be.
Grandma never thought that McClintic could be involved in something like this.  Grandma's voice was shaky and you could tell she was crying.


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