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« Reply #20 on: April 17, 2009, 09:23:14 PM »


ARUBAN CHIEF OF POLICE - GEROLD DOMPIG

Gerold Dompig’s official position within the Natalee Holloway investigation dictates that inside information was at the foundation of his words regarding his suspicion encompassing the involvement of Joran, Deepak and Satish.
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Aruban police say new tapes could spur arrests
Police official tells 'Abrams Report' about latest in the Holloway case
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updated 6:14 p.m. PT, Wed., Oct. 12, 2005


GERALD DOMPIG, ARUBAN DEPUTY CHIEF OF POLICE:  DOMPIG: Exactly. And I go by the rule of thumb that, in the first 40 days -- as I said in a different program -- the first 40 days, law enforcement has probably also already spoken to the perpetrators.

So we feel strongly that we have already spoken to them. And there's no one else outside this group that could be involved or responsible.

So sometimes people will ask us that, "Are you not tunnel-visioned? Maybe you should look at other possibilities." Of course. We did that. But we still feel that, every time you go on a path, a different path, that path leads back, comes back to these three boys.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9676188/page/2/


'Rita Cosby Live & Direct' for Nov. 2nd
updated 8:26 a.m. PT, Thurs., Nov. 3, 2005


RITA COSBY, HOST:  Do you believe, Chief—you said to me even before this interview that you believe the boys are guilty as hell. Do you believe they‘re involved in her disappearance?

GEROLD DOMPIG, ARUBA DEPUTY POLICE CHIEF:  Yes.

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/9910586/from/RL.3/


'Rita Cosby Live & Direct' for April 5
updated 9:40 a.m. PT, Thurs., April. 6, 2006


GEROLD DOMPIG, ARUBAN DEPUTY CHIEF OF POLICE: I want to state once more that I still believe that these boys have been lying. They‘re still lying, and everybody knows that by now. So there‘s no doubt in my mind that they know something

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12187266/
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« Reply #21 on: April 17, 2009, 09:51:41 PM »

THE ARUBAN PROSECUTORS - CATCH AND RELEASE

Karin Janssen:

Joran van der Sloot - 06/2005: Suspicion of murder and kidnapping as well as being an accessory to murder.
 
Deepak Kalpoe - 06/2005: Suspicion of murder and kidnapping as well as being an accessory to murder.

Satish Kalpoe - 06/2005: Suspicion of murder and kidnapping as well as being an accessory to murder.

Steve Croes - 06/2005: Suspicion of murder and kidnapping as well as being an accessory to murder.
 
Paulus van der Sloot - 06/2005: Complicity to pre-meditated murder, complicity to kidnapping and murder and kidnapping. 06/2005


Karin Janssen:

Deepak Kalpoe - 09/2005:  Suspected of the primary criminal act of together with other people committing premeditated murder, alternately together with other people murdering somebody, more alternately rob a person of her liberty with fatal consequences and even more alternately, raping somebody and new suspicions.

Satish Kalpoe - 09/2005: Suspected of the primary criminal act of together with other people committing premeditated murder, alternately together with other people murdering somebody, more alternately rob a person of her liberty with fatal consequences and even more alternately, raping somebody and new suspicions.

Freddy Arambatzis - 09/2005: Suspicion of having unspecified "physical contact" with a female minor. (Unrelated to the Natalee Holloway case.)

Geoffrey van Cromvoirt - 04/2006: Criminal offenses that may be related to the disappearance of Natalee Holloway.

Guido Weaver - 05/2006: Assisting in the murder, heavy battery and kidnapping of the teen.


Hans Mos:

Joran Van der Sloot - 11/2007: Suspicion of involvement in voluntary manslaughter and causing serious bodily harm that resulted in the death of Holloway.

Deepak Kalpoe - 11/2007: Suspicion of involvement in voluntary manslaughter and causing serious bodily harm that resulted in the death of Holloway.

Satish Kalpoe - 11/20/07:  Suspicion of involvement in voluntary manslaughter and causing serious bodily harm that resulted in the death of Holloway.
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« Reply #22 on: April 17, 2009, 10:02:22 PM »

ARLENE ELLIS-SCHIPPER - ARUBAN ATTORNEY

NANCY GRACE
Nancy Grace for July 20, 2005, CNNHN
Aired July 20, 2005 - 20:00   ET


There is no grand jury in Aruba. It`s a different system. You are arrested based on suspicion, on strong suspicion.
 
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0507/20/ng.01.html


NORAINA PIETERSZ - ARUBAN ATTORNEY

Suspects in teen’s disappearance
held after hearing
updated 1:42 a.m. PT, Thurs., June 9, 2005


Under Aruban law, only serious suspicion from investigators — not solid evidence — is needed for a judge to rule that suspects can be held, Pietersz said.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8079019/
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« Reply #23 on: April 17, 2009, 11:41:01 PM »

What do you think of beginning with a picture of Natalee with her friends on the beach wearing the clothing she wore to C & C's on her last night.

Followed by the photo of Natalee sitting at the table in the casino with her friends and the man resembling Paulus VDS sitting beside her.   The same table suspect Joran sat.

Then the three last seen with Natalee that night.  Joran and the Kalpoe brothers. 

Followed by excerpts from the suspects statements, including the taped conversations the suspects had in the police car.  example - paraphrase, if they see that s**t you will get 15 years.  "your own father"

Then the meeting held around the pool where Paulus is said to declare "no body, no case.

Then Beth's arrival on the island and Beths and entourage' first visit to the vandersloot home and a summary of what was said by various parties there including Beth's hearing and subsequently entering in her journal that Paulus said he picked Joran up at 4:00 a.m. @ Mcd's etc. etc.

and so on and so on.  Just random early thoughts.
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« Reply #24 on: April 17, 2009, 11:42:09 PM »

THE CONFESSION - JUNE 10, 2005

SPOKESPERSON - ARUBAN MINISTER OF JUSTICE

Reports Conflict in Case of Missing Ala. Teen
Saturday, June 11, 2005


David Cruz, a spokesman for the Aruban Minister of Justice (search) told FOX News Natalee Holloway (search), who was on vacation with friends with a graduation trip when she disappeared, was confirmed dead and that authorities knew the location of her body.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,159252,00.html


POLICE CHIEF - GEROLD DOMPIG

Aruba Case Appears Stalled
June 12, 2005 | by Scott Benjamin


Holloway's family rushed late Friday to an old stone lighthouse beside Arisha beach after Deputy Police Commissioner Gerold Dompig told The Associated Press that one of three young men in custody admitted that "something bad happened" to Holloway and was leading police to the scene of the alleged crime.
 
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/06/10/national/main700829.shtml


DAVE HOLLOWAY

Published: May 28, 2006 07:53 pm
Holloway talks about Natalee’s missing year
By Steve Gillespie / assistant editor


DAVE HOLLOWAY: At some point into this investigation, as time goes on and you don’t find her, you start realizing that things are not looking good. We got that confirmation pretty much from the FBI on June 10. They came to us and said the investigation appears to be heading toward a homicide case.

http://www.meridianstar.com/local/local_story_148205455.html


BETH HOLLOWAY

'Scarborough Country' for Oct. 24th
updated 7:06 a.m. PT, Tues., Oct . 25, 2005


BETH HOLLOWAY TWITTY, MOTHER OF NATALEE HOLLOWAY:  And that was the day that the FBI came in, Doug Shipley (ph) came in and said that the way the interrogations are unfolding, there‘s a strong possibility that Natalee may not be alive. That was huge. That was the day that—I think, Joe, everyone buried Natalee that day, on June 10.

And then it just—from there, the night went on. There were body sightings, countless. They were knocking on my door. They thought they found her. Oh, no, they didn‘t. It went on from 2:00 a.m. to 3:00 a.m. to 4:00 a.m. It was horrific.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9813596/

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« Reply #25 on: April 17, 2009, 11:56:42 PM »

Can ... I do not have a clue how to go about this presentation.  Your suggestions are excellent.

As I will not have time this weekend ... maybe you could be of assistance to Lifeline, Magnolia and the other Monkeys in getting something posted on the forum on Sunday.  We may have an influx of guests following Beth's production who do not have an indepth knowledge of the case.

Thank you.

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No Body...No Tourism aruba! Bring Natalee Home!


« Reply #26 on: April 18, 2009, 12:00:40 AM »

Just thinking out loud again.....
I was browsing the Corruption and Collusion thread at:
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=615.20
I'm sure you all know but to me there is a lot of well thought/laid out info that could be selected and put in specific/concise short posts to bring new monkeys up to date pretty quickly.
By maybe post on the Natalee Holloway thread selected posts from the C&C thread, interests will be peaked and in time many new monkeys would learn to use C&C thread as a good source to catch up.

Titles like already completed such as:
Crimes Against Natalee Holloway
When did the Cover up Begin?
May 30, 2005
BUSY DAY IN ARUBA - MAY 30, 2005

and
THE IMPOSSIBLE TIMELINE
May 31, 2005

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Aruba says the United States Government interfered with their investigation…………What is the Truth?
YOU BE THE JUDGE

are just a few examples of all the hardwork Monkeys/freebirds/other sources have already laid out with sources....and bring them forward in sections to the Natalee Holloway thread that can be easily digested.
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« Reply #27 on: April 18, 2009, 12:14:29 AM »

Bill ... we have so much researched Natalee Holloway case related  info on this site that it is overwhelming if there is not a specific focus.

A topic needs to be decided up ... a simple outline and ... SM's trust search engine can do the rest.

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« Reply #28 on: April 18, 2009, 12:25:27 AM »

Good Night Janet.....
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« Reply #29 on: April 18, 2009, 12:32:02 AM »

Can ... I do not have a clue how to go about this presentation.  Your suggestions are excellent.

As I will not have time this weekend ... maybe you could be of assistance to Lifeline, Magnolia and the other Monkeys in getting something posted on the forum on Sunday.  We may have an influx of guests following Beth's production who do not have an indepth knowledge of the case.

Thank you.

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Janet, I do not have a clue either. 
Just trying to think how it could be laid out point by point simply -  for those guests that may visit that haven't been swamped with information as those of us that have been supporting and following Natalee's case for four years, but whose interest has been sparked by the movie.

I have come to the computer late in life, and I am embarrassed to say my skills are extremely limited.  What little I have managed to learn has been from my children and they live far away.
I guess what I am trying to say is that I am so impressed with the research abilities of yourself and so many other Monkeys, and feel badly that I don't contribute more.

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« Reply #30 on: April 18, 2009, 11:45:28 AM »

I am off until this afternoon.

As I have plans for the entire day tomorrow ... later today is the only time I have to assist in a presentation.

If an outline could be created and posted ... I could work at locating backup sources.

Good Morning All.

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« Reply #31 on: April 18, 2009, 12:16:00 PM »

I am off until this afternoon.

As I have plans for the entire day tomorrow ... later today is the only time I have to assist in a presentation.

If an outline could be created and posted ... I could work at locating backup sources.

Good Morning All.

Janet
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Good Morning!

I like the idea of the outline too, Janet.

I think we should be picking up where the movie leaves off, only we don't know yet where the movie leaves off...

Imo, we should at least cover the November 2007 re-arrests and subsequent releases, the ocean search and crab trap, and the Montserat pond fiasco.

My weekend is filling up now too, I'd expected to have most of it free.  I'll be away most of the afternoon today and most of the day tomorrow as well. 

billb - I was looking at the C&C thread last night too and was thinking along the same lines.  A taste of the information with a link to read more may be just where its at!

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05/30/2007:
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« Reply #33 on: April 18, 2009, 02:24:29 PM »

Fox News Links: 

05/30/2007:      Two Years After Disappearance, Natalee Holloway's Mom Remains 'Hopeful'; Link

10/03/2007:      Attorney for Natalee Holloway's Parents Goes 'On the Record'; Link

11/22/2007:      Three Young Men Re-Arrested in Natalee Holloway Disappearance; Link

11/26/2007:      Defense Lawyers Dispute New Evidence in Natalee Holloway Case; Link

11/30/2007:      Aruba Judge to Order Release of Natalee Holloway Suspects; Link

12/01/2007:      Suspect Released in Natalee Holloway Case; Link

12/07/2007:      Suspect Van Der Sloot Freed in Natalee Holloway Case; Link

12/08/2007:       Prosecutor Mulls Closure in Natalee Holloway Case; Link

12/19/2007:       Natalee Holloway's Family Blames Investigators' Mistakes for Dead End; Link

12/23/2007:      Latest On The Current Underwater Search for Natalee Holloway « GretaWire; Link

01/31/2008:      New Evidence Emerges in Natalee Holloway Case; Link

02/08/2008:      Natalee Holloway's Father Reacts to Joran van der Sloot's Callous 'Confession'; Link

10/08/2008:       Natalee Holloway Case to Become Made-for-TV Movie; Link

11/10/2008:       Report: Natalee Holloway Suspect Involved in Thai Sex Trafficking; Link

11/19/2008:       Natalee Holloway's Mom: Aruba Investigators 'Not Following Up on Any Leads; Link

11/19/2008:       Possible New Witness in Natalee Holloway Case; Link

11/20/2008:       Natalee Holloway's Dad: Aruba Investigators Ignored Another Potential; Link

11/25/2008:      Joran van der Sloot Goes 'On the Record' with New Natalee Holloway Story; Link

03/20/2009:      Natalee Holloway's Father Sends Search Dog to Aruba to Look for Daughter's Body; Link

03/23/2009:      New Search Begins for Natalee Holloway; Link

03/24/2009:      Natalee Holloway Dad: Pond Search May Take 2 Weeks; Link

03/30/2009:      Pond Search for Natalee Holloway Almost Complete; Link

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Fox News Links:  Parents of Natalee Holloway

05/30/2007:      Two Years After Disappearance, Natalee Holloway's Mom Remains 'Hopeful'; Link

10/03/2007:      Attorney for Natalee Holloway's Parents Goes 'On the Record'; Link

12/19/2007:       Natalee Holloway's Family Blames Investigators' Mistakes for Dead End; Link

02/08/2008:      Natalee Holloway's Father Reacts to Joran van der Sloot's Callous 'Confession'; Link

10/08/2008:       Natalee Holloway Case to Become Made-for-TV Movie; Link

11/19/2008:       Natalee Holloway's Mom: Aruba Investigators 'Not Following Up on Any Leads; Link

11/20/2008:       Natalee Holloway's Dad: Aruba Investigators Ignored Another Potential; Link

03/20/2009:      Natalee Holloway's Father Sends Search Dog to Aruba to Look for Daughter's Body; Link

03/24/2009:      Natalee Holloway Dad: Pond Search May Take 2 Weeks; Link

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Fox News Links:  11/2007 Re-Arrests


11/21/2007:     Dutch Police Arrest Joran Van der Sloot in Natalee Holloway Case; Link

11/22/2007:     Three Young Men Re-Arrested in Natalee Holloway Disappearance; Link

11/23/2007:     Aruba Judge Orders Extended Detention for 2 Brothers in Disappearance of Natalee Holloway; Link

11/23/2007:     Report:   Phone Conversations Could Be New Evidence in Natalee Holloway; Link

11/24/2007:     Dutch Suspect Joran Van Der Sloot Back in Aruba After Re-Arrest; Link

11/24/2007:     Aruba's Chief Prosecutor Believes Natalee Holloway Is Dead; Link

11/26/2007:     Defense Lawyers Dispute New Evidence in Natalee Holloway Case; Link

11/30/2007:     Aruba Judge to Order Release of Natalee Holloway Suspects; Link

12/01/2007:     Suspect Released in Natalee Holloway Case; Link

12/07/2007:     Suspect Van Der Sloot Freed in Natalee Holloway Case; Link

12/08/2007:     Prosecutor Mulls Closure in Natalee Holloway Case; Link

12/10/2007:     Joran van der Sloot Released From Jail; Link

12/19/2007:     Natalee Holloway's Family Blames Investigators' Mistakes for Dead End; Link

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Fox News Links - The Hidden-Camera Confessions


01/31/2008:      New Evidence Emerges in Natalee Holloway Case; Link

02/01/2008:      Joran Van Der Sloot Says He Spoke of Involvement in Natalee Holloway; Link

02/03/2008:     Judge denies Prosecutor’s request to hold Joran in pretrial detention. Prosecutor to appeal decision. Link

02/08/2008:      Natalee Holloway's Father Reacts to Joran van der Sloot's Callous 'Confession'; Link

02/08/2008:      Dutch Crime Reporter Peter De Vries Goes Inside Joran van der Sloot's Explosive Tape; Link

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« Reply #37 on: April 18, 2009, 03:51:11 PM »

WOW!!

Lifesong

You have really been working hard behind the scenes.  I like it.

What can I do?

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Fox News Links:  The Witness and The Pond

09/26/2008:     New Witness in Natalee Holloway Disappearance ? « GretaWire

11/19/2008:     Possible New Witness in Natalee Holloway Case

11/20/2008:     Natalee Holloway's Dad: Aruba Investigators Ignored Another Potential

12/05/2008:     Holloway Cover-up By Aruban Law Enforcement?

03/20/2009:     Natalee Holloway's Father Sends Search Dog to Aruba to Look for Daughter's Body

03/23/2009:     New Search Begins for Natalee Holloway

03/24/2009:      Natalee Holloway Dad: Pond Search May Take 2 Weeks

03/30/2009:     Pond Search for Natalee Holloway Almost Complete

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Maybe the most efficient thing is to just coordinate the subject/keyword? 

Your indexed data followed up with mini-timeline links?






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