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« Reply #80 on: April 19, 2009, 11:11:22 AM »

Lifesong

Attempt to stay focused on one aspect of the presentation at a time until completion..

If you are working on the mini timelines with corresponding data posts ... do not divert ... delegate other aspects of the presentation to our Natalee Holloway Monkeys.  Otherwise you will become overwhelmed.

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Loving Natalee - Beth Holloway
Page 219: I have to make difficult choices every day.  I have to make a conscious decision every morning when I wake up not to be bitter, not to live in resentment and let anger control me.  It's not easy.  I ask God to help me.
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« Reply #81 on: April 19, 2009, 11:24:06 AM »

Lifesong

I have transferred all my data posts (2005-2007) to another thread.  This will save you the trouble of looking through this thread for my final drafts when compiling the presentation.

I will be going to bed now but ... will attempt to do the data posts for 2008 and 2009 first thing in the morning.  We will be taking off for the entire day around 9:00 am and will not be back until evening.

Janet
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DATA POSTS - TAMIKOSMOM

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4890.new#new


Lifesong

I apologize.  Time has run out.  I failed to complete data posts for 2008 and ... nothing for 2009.  If time permitted I had plan on doing data posts on the following:
 
2008:
Side scanning by Persistence at Monserat Pond.

2009:
Dave Holloway's search of the Monserat Pond.
Beth's production.

Anyways ... in the compiling of this presentation ... feel free do what you what with my data posts.  Editing or omitting is fine with me.  I will leave it up to the discretion of you and others as to what should be included.

Janet
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« Reply #82 on: April 19, 2009, 03:07:35 PM »


2008

SONAR SCANNING BY PERSISTENCE AT MONTSERAT POND


On February 27, 2008, two members of the RV Persistence ocean search crew performed a sonar-scan survey of Montserrat Pond.  Kyle Kingman, the crew’s geophysical engineer and marine geologist was responsible for the results analysis and target identification.


Photo Credit:  BonDia/Klaasend

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Quote from: oceanexploration on February 28, 2008, 03:34:45 PM
Kyle Kingman:  This is two of our crew out surveying the pond yesterday (27-Feb).  They are using a SonaVision scanning sonar. The sonar scans 360 degrees out to a user select range.  In this case we used between 50-100ft range.  By placing multiple "drops" approximately 75-100 ft apart you can quickly and efficiently scan an entire pond.  I must have a good laught at this one. The boat they are in is TINY and Tony is a big guy.

Kyle Kingman:   “There are 18 targets. Two are definitely tires. The rest, who knows.  It's likely tin cans, mud clumps, and debris. There is one small box-like target but it's only 2ft across and doesn't have much relief, unless it's completely sunk into the mud (likely).  I can find something about the size of a hockey puck with that system in good conditions. The water was very shallow when this survey was done.  Remember, in February 2006 the pond was almost dry.

Kyle Kingman:  “I think it is highly unlikely and completely inconsistent with numerous testimonies and other evidence that the pond (or anything but the ocean) contains Natalee's remains.”


Photo Credit:  Kermit


Click here to view the image results of the sonar scan.


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« Reply #83 on: April 19, 2009, 05:11:38 PM »




THE COVER-UP

Aruban Minister of Justice, Rudy Croes, and then President/CEO of the Aruban Hotel and Tourism Association (AHATA) have both admited that a cover-up took place in the investigation of Natalee Holloway’s disappearance.

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FOX NEWS:  ON THE RECORD

John Q. Kelly, Attorney for Natalee Holloway’s family:  “The minister of justice, Rudy Croes, has now come out and publicly said that the police chief at the time in Aruba when Natalee Holloway disappeared, Jan van der Straaten, was clearly complicit with Paulus van der Sloot in covering up for Joran in the initial days after Natalee's disappearance.”


FOX NEWS:  ON THE RECORD

John Q. Kelly, Attorney for Natalee Holloway’s family:  “None of this is about Natalee and a missing young women, and you know, parents without child. It's a bunch of ego stuff right now. It's Van der Straaten apparently criticized the police investigators, his own investigators, this week. Rudy Croes in turn then came out and said, “What's Van der Straaten talking about?” He's the one that covered up with Paulus van der Sloot. We have a whole trail of phone calls between Van der Straaten and Van der Sloot in terms of what happened in the days after Natalee's disappearance. Van der Straaten, he went on to say, used his second-rate investigation team to -- to check into Natalee's disappearance initially and just, you know, covered the whole thing up, deliberately hindered the prosecution and investigation into Natalee's disappearance.”


BETH HOLLOWAY:  LOVING NATALEE

Page 194:  It's quiet in the room when i add, 'Oh, come on. Everyone knows there was a cover-up.' And to this, Jorge Pesquera, president and CEO of the Aruba Hotel and Tourism Association, shrugs his shoulders, nods in the affirmative, and says softly, 'Yes...yes there was'."

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« Reply #84 on: May 04, 2009, 10:13:06 PM »



 

Hi Janet,

I registered at the LifeTime site and tried to post a timeline to back up your data post's re: Beth and Dave, but the links didn't come through on the preview and the font was enormous!  You are kicking Hinky's rear over there though - very nice!

Anyway, I thought I'd back off and check with you first to see what you think would be the most effective use of time...

So, what's next?  How can I help? 

Still need to re-post the combined messages from the night of the movie, what thread do you think?
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« Reply #85 on: April 06, 2010, 03:56:06 PM »




http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4854.msg774916#msg774916

2005

06/02/2005:     Ala. Teen Vanishes in Aruba

06/03/2005:    Natalee's Mom Issues Plea

06/04/2005:     Three Probed in Missing Teen Case

06/05/2005:     Two Arrested in Disappearance

06/10/2005:     Nobody Stands Above the Law

06/11/2005:     Reports Conflict in Case of Missing Ala. Teen

06/15/2005:     Aruba Cops Search Dutch Suspect's Home

06/15/2005:     Frustration in Aruba

06/17/2005:     Fourth Person Held in Aruba Mystery

06/18/2005:     Three Aruba Suspects Going to Prison

06/20/2005:     Judge Rules to Hold Fourth Suspect in Aruba Case

06/20/2005:     Arubans Worry About Island's Image

06/22/2005:     Natalee's Mom Confronts Suspect's Parents

06/23/2005:     Aruba Suspect Changes Story; Dad Arrested

06/24/2005:     Aruba Authorities Detail Murder Suspicions

06/27/2005:     DJ, Teen's Father Freed in Aruba

06/29/2005:    Holloway's Mom: Dutch Dad Hiding Something

06/30/2005:     Aruba Official: Body Not Needed to Prosecute

07/01/2005:     Aruba Suspects Could Be Charged Monday

07/05/2005:     Aruban Judge Frees Two Holloway Suspects

07/06/2005:     Holloway's Mother: Don't Let Kalpoes Go

07/06/2005:     Arubans:  Natalee's Mom Out of Line

07/07/2005:     Aruban Prosecutors Appeal Brothers' Release

07/07/2005:     Aruban PM Asks Navy to Help Find Holloway

07/12/2005:     Aruba Prosecutors Wants Kalpoes Re-Arrested

07/14/2005:     Aruban Judge: Dutch Teen Stays in Jail

07/16/2005:     Jailed Youth in Aruba Made to Retrace Steps

07/28/2005:     Pond Drained in Aruba Search

07/31/2005:     Natalee's Mom Goes Home

08/26/2005:     Aruba Re-Arrests Kalpoe Brothers in Holloway Case

09/02/2005:     Judge Releases Suspect in Holloway's Disappearance

09/03/2005:     Aruba Suspects Released From Jail

09/05/2005:     Aruba PM Vows Investigation Will Continue

09/02/2005:     Lawyer: Judge Orders Release of Kalpoes

09/06/2005:     Ex-Aruba Suspect Arrives in Netherlands

09/27/2005:     Natalee's Mom:  Van der Sloot Lying About Sex

10/19/2005:     Movement in the Natalee Holloway Case?
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« Reply #86 on: April 06, 2010, 04:15:01 PM »


http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4854.msg775008#msg775008


2006

01/17/2006:     Police Search Sand Dunes for Missing Teen Natalee Holloway

03/22/2006:     New Witness Comes Forward in Natalee Holloway Case

03/30/2006:     Authorities Scour Aruban Sand Dunes for Natalee Holloway's Body

04/12/2006:     Aruban Police Report New Lead in Holloway Case

04/16/2006:    Aruban Officials Make Arrest in Natalee Holloway Case

04/18/2006:     Detention of Suspect in Natalee Holloway Case Extended

04/21/2006:     Holloway Suspects' Conversation Points to Crime

04/21/2006:     Authorities Study Sea Floor Photos in Search for Natalee

04/23/2006:     Ex-Lead Investigator's Son Questioned in Holloway Case

04/24/2006:     Suspect in Natalee Holloway Case Released

04/27/2006:     Aruba Prosecutor: Hundreds Questioned in Natalee Holloway Case

05/23/2006:     Lawyer: Natalee Holloway Suspect "Is Gay"

05/28/2006:     Holloway Talks About Natalee’s Missing Year

05/31/2006:     Natalee Holloway's Parents Mark Anniversary Quietly

06/19/2006:     Natalee Holloway Case: State of Suspension

08/03/2006:     Judge Dismisses Natalee Holloway Suit Saying It Can't Be Filed in U.S

08/08/2006:     Aruban Prosecutors to Appeal Order to Pay Damages to Paulus Van Der Sloot

08/25/2006:     Report: Aruba Officials Want Dutch to Take Over Holloway Case

12/15/2006:     Wrongful Death, Defamation Lawsuits Filed in Natalee Holloway Case; Dr. Phil Named As Defendant
            
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« Reply #87 on: April 08, 2010, 11:44:46 AM »


http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4854.msg775038#msg775038

2007

01/17/2007:     New Developments in Natalee Holloway Case

02/28/2007:     Aruba Brothers Want U.S. Judge to Toss Wrongful Death Lawsuit in Natalee

05/13/2007:     House of 2 Former Suspects Searched in Natalee Holloway Disappearance

05/30/2007:     Two Years After Disappearance, Natalee Holloway's Mom Remains "Hopeful"

06/02/2007:     Judge Tosses Wrongful Death Lawsuit in Holloway Case

09/14/2007:     Holloway Case: New Kalpoe Documents

10/03/2007:     Attorney for Natalee Holloway's Parents Goes "On the Record"

10/04/2007:     Beth Holloway Goes "On the Record"

11/21/2007:     Dutch Police Arrest Joran Van der Sloot in Natalee Holloway Case

11/22/2007:     Three Young Men Re-Arrested in Natalee Holloway Disappearance

11/23/2007:     Aruba Judge Orders Extended Detention for 2 Brothers in Disappearance of Natalee Holloway

11/23/2007:     Natalee Holloway's Dad to Search Aruba Waters for Evidence

11/23/2007:     Report:  Phone Conversations Could Be New Evidence in Natalee Holloway

11/23/2007:     Late Friday Update In Natalee Holloway Story - Wiretapped Calls ???? « GretaWire

11/24/2007:     Dutch Suspect Joran Van Der Sloot Back in Aruba After Re-Arrest

11/24/2007:     Aruba's Chief Prosecutor Believes Natalee Holloway Is Dead

11/26/2007:     Defense Lawyers Dispute New Evidence in Natalee Holloway Case

11/30/2007:     Aruba Judge to Order Release of Natalee Holloway Suspects

12/01/2007:     Suspect Released in Natalee Holloway Case

12/07/2007:     Suspect Van Der Sloot Freed in Natalee Holloway Case

12/08/2007:     Prosecutor Mulls Closure in Natalee Holloway Case

12/10/2007:     Joran van der Sloot Released From Jail

12/19/2007:     Natalee Holloway's Family Blames Investigators' Mistakes for Dead End

12/23/2007:     Latest On The Current Underwater Search for Natalee Holloway « GretaWire

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« Reply #88 on: April 08, 2010, 11:23:48 PM »

GOD BLESS LIFESONG & TAMIKOSMOM..

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