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« Reply #120 on: April 28, 2009, 12:32:57 AM »

Now this is weird!!!!  You have to read the post!!!!!

http://www.landoverbaptist.net/showthread.php?t=21306

RED ALERT! MARY MARIA'S SISTER FACING PERSECUTION!


Sister Mary Maria's (Twin?) Sister, sunday school tacher, and member (by marriage) of Mike Huckabee's family has been arrested for obeying the Bible:


I haven't been on much in the last few days and don't post too much in this thread, but by all that is holy, I cannot believe what I am reading.  I am so sickened. 
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« Reply #121 on: April 28, 2009, 12:41:15 AM »

ANNOUNCEMENT THAT SITE IS A SPOOF. A SICK SPOOF, BUT A SPOOF. NO REAL CHURCH
Oh thank god! I had a feeling but geez after everything that has happened, you just never know! Whew! I can now breath...

Okay, spoof site.  BUT, what the heck is funny about it.  Ugh, sick.
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« Reply #122 on: April 28, 2009, 02:00:35 AM »

Good Evening Monkeys
It's kind of late (long day) but I wanted to check i.  Boy oh boy have you Monkeys been BUSY!  Looking forward to reading more closely ALL of your work!

Still working on Alisal Baptist...

Alisal Baptist

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Missions

MISSIONARY TO PAPUA, NEW GUINEA
Missionary:    Elder Frank James
Sponsoring Church:    Olmstead Baptist Church
Contact Address:    2412 Egret Dr.
Clarksville, TN 37042
Contact Phone:    (931) 542-0544 or (931) 801-8187
Email:    fandcjames@runbox.com
Contact Phone:    011-61-2-46-26-8809
MISSIONARY TO PERU
Missionary:    Elder Rodney Spears
Sponsoring Church:    Baptist Temple
Contact Phone:    (937) 288-2325
Email:    spearsrodney@msn.com
MISSIONARY TO THE PHILIPPINES
Missionary:    Elder Brent Spears
Sponsoring Church:    Bryan Station Baptist Church
Contact Address:    Blk. 29 Lot 12 Area "S"
Maharlika St., Queens Row Subd.,
Molino, Bacoor, Cavite
Email:    misionarybks@pacific.net.ph


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Lawless said he lived in Salinas for about a year while receiving his theological education from the Alisal Baptist Institute Theological Seminary. Lawless said he also lived in Livermore and made the one-and-a-half hour commute to Salinas when he taught and preached at the institute.

Pastor Arthur Harris of the Alisal Baptist Church said the institute is still around but hasn't had any students or staff for a couple of years.

Harris, now the dean of the institute, described the institute as more of a Bible school as opposed to a liberal arts department. Harris confirmed Lawless received a bachelor's degree in religious studies at the institute.

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« Reply #123 on: April 28, 2009, 07:05:18 AM »

I have a stupid question. WTH does the sign say that your dancing banana is holding, lol.

Nut - I'm not the  poster in question, , but the sign says "noob".  As in a new poster.  AKA newb, noobie, newbie.   
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« Reply #124 on: April 28, 2009, 08:59:17 AM »

This was on KRON's website, and may be the source of the speculation regarding the gag order and the venue change.  Note it predated the April 24th arraignment.  Also, note that the DA's office did ask the court to clarify its gag order during that hearing, and the court responded by reading it into the record and inviting motions if anyone had a problem with it:

STOCKTON (KRON) -- Legal experts say there's a good chance Melissa Huckaby will once again put off entering a plea to murder, kidnapping, and rape charges in connection with the death of eight-year old Sandra Cantu.

Huckaby is in court for more legal proceedings in the case.  Analysts say the San Joaquin County public defender could ask for more evidence from prosecutors instead of entering a plea.  The D.A's office reportedly is considering asking Superior Court Judge Linda Lofthus to lift a gag order imposed earlier this week. {EDITORIAL-According to the minute order from the court, that didn't happen at the hearing, and I'm not aware of any such motions having been filed, which I'm sure would have generated media coverage}

There's also widespread speculation defense attorneys could ask for a change of venue in the case saying it will be impossible for Huckaby to get a fair trial in San Joaquin county or the Bay Area.  They may push to move the case to Southern California.  {EDITORIAL- Based on the same order, that didn't happen either, and again, no such motions have been filed AFAIK}

Huckaby remains jailed without bail in connection with Sandra Cantu's death.  The child's body was found inside a suitcase in an irrigation pond about two miles from the mobile home park where both the victim and the alleged killer lived.

KRON 4 has exclusive video from outside the Clover Lane Baptist Church where Tracy Police served a third search warrant Thursday.  Huckaby was a Sunday School teacher at the church where her grandfather is the pastor. 

Stay tuned to KRON 4 and KRON4.com for comprehensive coverage of the Sandra Cantu case.
http://www.kron4.com/News/ArticleView/tabid/298/smid/1126/ArticleID/1178/reftab/36/t/Huckaby-Could-Delay-Plea-at-Today-s-Hearing/Default.aspx

Edit to add the link you provided.  Thanks!
I've added a general link to the KRON website:  http://www.kron.com/
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« Reply #125 on: April 28, 2009, 09:24:39 AM »

That female guest didn't need to say what she did . Sorry I won't repeat it .
Sorry about quoting myself but I figured out a way to describe what she said without offending . She started listing reasons (from her own mind ) what the autopsy might have found . I was too mad about it last night to think of a way to put it . The good news is that the other guests sort of told her to shut up .
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« Reply #126 on: April 28, 2009, 10:47:06 AM »

That female guest didn't need to say what she did . Sorry I won't repeat it .
Sorry about quoting myself but I figured out a way to describe what she said without offending . She started listing reasons (from her own mind ) what the autopsy might have found . I was too mad about it last night to think of a way to put it . The good news is that the other guests sort of told her to shut up .
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« Reply #127 on: April 28, 2009, 10:51:56 AM »

That female guest didn't need to say what she did . Sorry I won't repeat it .
Sorry about quoting myself but I figured out a way to describe what she said without offending . She started listing reasons (from her own mind ) what the autopsy might have found . I was too mad about it last night to think of a way to put it . The good news is that the other guests sort of told her to shut up .

I TRULY HATE IT when people like that make such speculative remarks that have no basis in fact.  They are calculated to inflame and impassion without regard to how hurtful they may be to those viewing the program.  That's why I don't watch shows like that.  They editorialize rather than sticking to the facts as we know them simply to make the story "more interesting."  We can all think up speculative things of "what the autopsy might have found."  But here are the FACTS as we currently know them:

1.  Sandra was found fully clothed
2.  Upon examination, her body showed no visible signs of trauma
3.  Autopsy revealed signs of "genital trauma" (which would not have been visible by examination alone)

That's really it as I can recall. 

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« Reply #128 on: April 28, 2009, 10:55:59 AM »

Klaas and others, here's the link to the KRON article I posted earlier:

http://www.kron4.com/News/ArticleView/tabid/298/smid/1126/ArticleID/1178/reftab/36/t/Huckaby-Could-Delay-Plea-at-Today-s-Hearing/Default.aspx

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« Reply #129 on: April 28, 2009, 12:07:27 PM »

     Connie L. Lawless   2317 votes 11.6%

    * Party: Republican
    * Occupation: Care Giver

 
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« Reply #130 on: April 28, 2009, 12:18:26 PM »

     Connie L. Lawless   2317 votes 11.6%

    * Party: Republican
    * Occupation: Care Giver

 
Someone posted about this a couple days ago, she was running for some kind of office. I'm not sure if the care giver is because they had foster children, which I would like to hear more about.
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« Reply #131 on: April 28, 2009, 12:27:28 PM »

     Connie L. Lawless   2317 votes 11.6%

    * Party: Republican
    * Occupation: Care Giver

 
Someone posted about this a couple days ago, she was running for some kind of office. I'm not sure if the care giver is because they had foster children, which I would like to hear more about.

I haven't been able to find any info on that.  By the way....why is she using Lane as her middle name?
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« Reply #132 on: April 28, 2009, 12:54:59 PM »

Alisal Baptist Church 14th Annual Pacific Coast Fellowship Conference, 2008
W. L. Brown March 22, 2008

Pastor DeWayne Harris and the Alisal Baptist Church of Salinas, California hosted a wonderful and Spirit-filled conference March 19-21. Each evening service was filled, not only with people, but with preaching, singing, and the presence of the Lord. The services during the days were also full and rich with the preaching, singing and fellowship.



http://www.carmichaelbaptist.org/news.htm

Is that not Lane Lawless 3rd from the left?

Mornin' MOnkeys   
Who's ready for coffee?  I know I need it!  Had a LONG day yesterday!


AWESOME EYES NorthernR!!!
I absolutely think that is him.
He has quite the honker....sorry.  But it's true.
It's actually also helpful for distinguishing purposes!

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« Reply #133 on: April 28, 2009, 01:00:06 PM »

     Connie L. Lawless   2317 votes 11.6%

    * Party: Republican
    * Occupation: Care Giver

 
Someone posted about this a couple days ago, she was running for some kind of office. I'm not sure if the care giver is because they had foster children, which I would like to hear more about.

I haven't been able to find any info on that.  By the way....why is she using Lane as her middle name?

Mornin'
Here's a little more on that quote.
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Over the past week, police searched Clover Road Baptist Church, on West Clover Road about a quarter-mile from the park, as well as a shed on the property. Investigators also questioned its pastor, Lane Lawless, who is Huckaby's grandfather, and seized a phone and computer belonging to Lawless and his wife, Connie.

Connie Lawless has said that they welcomed the police scrutiny and that investigators were probably interested in them because Sandra played with their 5-year-old great-granddaughter. Connie Lawless was elected to San Joaquin Valley's Republican Central Committee in 2006 and lost a re-election bid two years later, according to the county registrar of voters.
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« Reply #134 on: April 28, 2009, 01:09:13 PM »

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« Reply #135 on: April 28, 2009, 01:18:15 PM »

I've been giving your recent posts thought and have wondered the same thing.  Almost ALL defendants enter a No Guilty plea at this early stage of the case.

Are there negotiations for a possible plea with NO Trial and sealed evidence?

These continuances and MH's past psychological history make me wonder if MH is *talking* behind bars...Either about herself OR anyone/thing related to this case.  I wonder if she is cooperating with FBI and LE...and I wonder if she has been approached with an idea like:  Either Confess OR Give us the names of others involvement.....
Both in Sandra's death and possible child porn and we will send you to a prison/hospital where you will be relatively safe from what the women in the GP would do to you.

It's just so staggering to see HOW much money can be made in child porn.  And when I see things like a church but few church members, a school with no staff....it makes me very curious!
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« Reply #136 on: April 28, 2009, 01:48:48 PM »

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« Reply #137 on: April 28, 2009, 01:57:17 PM »

Thanks for the article Tracy

Here's something I will throw out to you Monkeys...
Do we have any names of the so called Tracy60???
I would really like to know who is on that list and if ANY of those people have ANY connection the Lawless family.
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« Reply #138 on: April 28, 2009, 02:17:08 PM »

FBI facts about Intenet Child Pornography...

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                   Innocent Images Statistical Accomplishments

Online child pornography/child sexual exploitation investigations, which are worked under the FBI's Innocent Images National Initiative, accounted for 39 percent of all investigations worked under the FBI's Cyber Division in fiscal year 2007.
Innocent Images grew exponentially between fiscal years 1996 and 2007 with a:

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      2062 percent increase in Cases Opened (113 to 2443)
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      1003 percent increase in Informations & Indictments (99 to 1092)
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      2501 percent increase in Arrests, Locates & Summons (68 to 1769)
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      1404 percent increase in Convictions & Pretrial Diversions (68 to 1023)

Between fiscal years 1996-2007, the Innocent Images National Initiative has recorded the following statistical accomplishments:

Number of Cases Opened: 20,134
Number of Informations & Indictments: 6,844
Number of Arrests, Locates & Summons: 9,469
Number of Convictions & Pretrial Diversions: 6,863

Online Child Pornography/Child Sexual Exploitation Investigations

While investigating the disappearance of a juvenile in May 1993, FBI special agents and Prince George’s County, Maryland, police detectives identified two suspects who had sexually exploited numerous juveniles over a 25-year period. Investigation into these activities determined that adults were routinely utilizing computers to transmit sexually explicit images to minors and in some instances to lure minors into engaging in illicit sexual activity. Further investigation and discussions with experts, both within the FBI and in the private sector, revealed that the utilization of computer telecommunications was rapidly becoming one of the most prevalent techniques by which some sex offenders shared pornographic images of minors and identified and recruited children into sexually illicit relationships. In 1995, based on information developed during this investigation, the Innocent Images National Initiative was started to address the illicit activities conducted by users of commercial and private online services and the Internet.

The most common crimes investigated under the IINI are in violation of Title 18 United States Code (USC):

§ 1462. Importation or Transportation of Obscene Matters
§ 1465. Transportation of Obscene Matters for Sale or Distribution
§ 1466. Engaging in the Business of Selling or Transferring Obscene Matter
§ 1467. Criminal Forfeiture
§ 1470. Transfer of Obscene Material to Minors
§ 2241(a)(b)(c). Aggravated Sexual Abuse
§ 2251(a)(b)(c). Sexual Exploitation of Children
§ 2251A(a)(b). Selling or Buying of Children
§ 2252. Certain Activities Relating to Material Involving the Sexual Exploitation of Minors
§ 2252A. Certain Activities Relating to Material Constituting or Containing Child Pornography
§ 2253. Criminal Forfeiture
§ 2254. Civil Forfeiture
§ 2257. Record Keeping Requirements
§ 2260(a)(b). Production of Sexually Explicit Depictions of a Minor for Importation into the US
§ 2421. Transportation Generally
§ 2422. Coercion and Enticement
§ 2423(a). Transportation of Minors with Intent to Engage in Criminal Sexual Activity
§ 2423(b). Interstate or Foreign Travel with Intent to Engage in a Sexual Act with a Juvenile
§ 2425. Use of Interstate Facilities to Transmit Information about a Minor
§ 13032. Reporting of Child Pornography by Electronic Communication Service Providers
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« Reply #139 on: April 28, 2009, 02:17:22 PM »

I've been giving your recent posts thought and have wondered the same thing.  Almost ALL defendants enter a No Guilty plea at this early stage of the case.

Are there negotiations for a possible plea with NO Trial and sealed evidence?

These continuances and MH's past psychological history make me wonder if MH is *talking* behind bars...Either about herself OR anyone/thing related to this case.  I wonder if she is cooperating with FBI and LE...and I wonder if she has been approached with an idea like:  Either Confess OR Give us the names of others involvement.....
Both in Sandra's death and possible child porn and we will send you to a prison/hospital where you will be relatively safe from what the women in the GP would do to you.

It's just so staggering to see HOW much money can be made in child porn.  And when I see things like a church but few church members, a school with no staff....it makes me very curious!
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If I were a betting man, I'd bet my money on answering your question "Yes" but with this caveat:  I don't think for one minute they'd let MH off with a hospital stay.  I'd be more willing to bet that a deal could be made where the prosection would drop the charges that make MH eligible for the death penalty, grant her immunity from prosection on any child porn charges in exchange for her cooperation, and as her sentence?  She'd get to spend the rest of her life in prison where she can contemplate what she's done in a 4x7 cell for 23 hours out the day for the next 60-70 years.

By the way, I believe MH already confessed, and I think her confession is contained in the tapes the prosecution turned over to Behar.  Remember, before the gag order was entered, two facts came to light:  (1) MH admitted Sandra's died "by accident;" and (2) she admitted to authoring the "cantu, suitcase, water" note.  Both are very damning.  I agree that she would have already entered a "Not guilty" plea had she not made some sort of admission. 

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