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« Reply #160 on: September 08, 2010, 12:43:36 PM »

OPRAH WINFREY SHOW - January 27, 2008

BETH HOLLOWAY: We've never really relied on an investigative approach to find an answer to Natalee. I think what we've relied on more heavily is that at any given moment something unexpected could happen and we really feel anyone could talk at any moment.
 
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Page 219: I have to make difficult choices every day.  I have to make a conscious decision every morning when I wake up not to be bitter, not to live in resentment and let anger control me.  It's not easy.  I ask God to help me.
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« Reply #161 on: September 08, 2010, 12:49:57 PM »


Joran spending time in ANY prison ANYWHERE implies that other unsuspecting "Natalees and Stephanys" are not at risk.

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'Scarborough Country' for July 1
updated 7/6/2005 11:11:14 AM ET


GEORGE TWITTY, STEPFATHER OF NATALEE HOLLOWAY:  My worst nightmare, that these individuals will be let—will walk and we will still not have any answers. 

MARTIN SAVIDGE, NBC CORRESPONDENT:  You think that is a possibility? 

TWITTY:  It's a possibility.

And that scares me, too, because these three kids are predators.
 
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8485048/


Van der Sloot: I've 'misused' Holloway case 'for my own advantage'By the CNN Wire Staff
September 7, 2010 9:11 a.m. EDT


But Kelly pointed out Tuesday that if he is released, van der Sloot will be held in Alabama on the charges related to extortion.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/09/07/peru.vandersloot/index.html?eref=mrss_igoogle_cnn


Natalee Holloway's Mom: Aruba Investigators 'Not Following Up on Any Leads'
Wednesday, November 19, 2008


BETH HOLLOWAY, NATALEE HOLLOWAY'S MOTHER: You know, like I said, it's been a long time, but it's never too late for justice. And I'd be good with a "Midnight Express" prison anywhere for Joran.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,454527,00.html

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« Reply #162 on: September 08, 2010, 12:54:06 PM »

If Joran is released from Peruvian detainment ... the implication is that he will not be held accountable for his participation encompassing the deaths of both Natalee and Stephany.  Murphy's Law implies the chances of this happening is very remote unless there is stuff going on behind the scenes by higher ups.

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Van der Sloot: I've 'misused' Holloway case 'for my own advantage'By the CNN Wire Staff
September 7, 2010 9:11 a.m. EDT


Alteza said that van der Sloot's constitutional rights have been violated and he "could be released because of the mistakes made by the police during the investigation."

But Kelly pointed out Tuesday that if he is released, van der Sloot will be held in Alabama on the charges related to extortion.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/09/07/peru.vandersloot/index.html?eref=mrss_igoogle_cnn


Loving Natalee - Beth Holloway

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- Helen is very positive. "It looks good that they will remain in custody." she says.  Then about three hours after she tells me this encouraging news, a devastating call comes from an AP reporter.

"Paulus van der Sloot and his attorney are bragging to everyone that all three suspects are getting out day after tomorrow!

Then all the media start calling.  I call Helen, then FBI agent Bill and the U.S. vice-consul.  None of them have this information.  So we tell the media it must be a rumor.  But the word is out all over the island to the defense side that all three suspects will walk.

Four and a half hours after this announcement is made to international media by Joran's father and his defense team, the FBI calls to tell me it is indeed true.  So the three suspects who were last seen with my daughter, and who offered multiple versions of what happened that night, will go free.  And we are the last ones to find out.
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« Reply #163 on: September 08, 2010, 01:33:35 PM »

Why has Joran van der Sloot not been permanently silenced by those who participated in the cover up agenda ... the cover up agenda that has prevented justice from prevailing for Natalee Holloway?  Joran's inability to keep a low profile implies it is only a matter of time before he brings them all down.

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Police Officers

Joran van der Sloot Goes 'On the Record' with New Natalee Holloway Story
Tuesday, November 25, 2008


GRETA VAN SUSTEREN: And I will. I mean, you told me, one of the things you told me - this is - and what I want to do is use this with leverage is that (NAME DELETED) was paid off, and another police officer was paid off by your father.

JORAN VAN DER SLOOT: You know something, Greta, though, I don't really want to do this, actually. I don't. This is not actually what we agreed on.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,457144,00.html


Higher Powers

Disposed - Patrick Vander Eem


PATRICK: Where the f--- is she Joran?
JORAN: I don’t know precisely.
PATRICK: How is it that you don’t know?
JORAN: Yea—
PATRICK: Higher power?
JORAN: Higher power—powers


Paulus van der Sloot

Joran van der Sloot Goes 'On the Record' with New Natalee Holloway Story
Tuesday, November 25, 2008


GRETA VAN SUSTEREN, HOST: Joran contacted us, claiming he wanted to tell us the truth about what happened that night. He produced as evidence three telephone conversations saved on a digital chip. Joran claims the recordings are conversations between his father and him. If authentic, the recording suggest that Joran told his father what happened to Natalee.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,457144,00.html


Holloway attorney details van der Sloot sting
updated 6/11/2010 12:58:39 PM ET


Van der Sloot and Kelly signed a contract, and van der Sloot took the lawyer on a drive to show where Holloway’s remains were.  He pointed out a house and said his father had helped dispose of the body in the foundation.

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/37635627


Michael Posner

Loving Natalee - Beth Holloway


Page 39:  Following our brief conversation, we all walk immediately to the front desk to ask about someone named Joran who is staying in the hotel and plays in the casino here.  The Holiday Inn night manager, Brenda, knows him by name.  "Oh! yes ... yes ... Joran.  He gambles in the Excelsior Casino here.  He likes to prey on young female tourists.  Especially the blonds.  He is tall.  Good-looking boy.  Like a Dutch marine."   My mouth drops wide open.  "Where is he from?" I ask her.  She replies.  "He lives in Aruba."  I stutter.  "He's ... he's not a tourist just here for the summer?"  "Non, non," she says.

It takes a few moments to absorb this information.  The supposed tourist who befriended some of Natalee's classmates and who told them he was staying at their hotel lied to them.  He isn't a tourist.  He isn't staying here.


Michael Posner Upset over Excelsior casino Security Tapes to ABC
Posted February 25, 2006 by Scared Monkeys


http://scaredmonkeys.com/2006/02/25/michael-posner-upset-over-excelsior-casino-security-tapes-to-abc/


Carlos and Charlies' Owner/s

Joran van der Sloot - Suspect Statement - June 9, 2005


After that we drove straight to Carlos & Charlies. Deepak was the driver but I cannot remember now who was sitting beside him. I do not remember now if it was Satish or me. I estimate that we arrived at Carlos & Charlies between 00.15 and 00.30 hours. Deepak parked his car on the parking lot behind Carlos & Charlies and after that we walked into the building of Carlos & Charlies. I don't have to pay because I have a VIP pass. With my VIP pass Deepak and Satish were also allowed in.

To your question as to who gave me the VIP pass to Carlos & Charlies, I answer you that I got it through the office of Carlos & Charlies. I do not remember with the help of who I got the VIP pass. I go to Carlos & Charlies about one to three times a week.


Above the Law?

Jossy Mansur - DANA PRETZER - July 23, 2007


DANA: One thing that makes my listeners scratch their heads so to speak and wonder, myself included and we'll talk about it again, is the fact of the underage drinking and gambling that had been going on admittedly by young van der Sloot.  Was there ever any discussion or has there ever been any discussion at least of filing some charges as far as that goes?

JOSSY:  No, there hasn't been any of that. The authorities have just (inaudible) it aside, they haven't paid any attention to it then and they're not paying any attention to it now and over the past 26 months.    I haven't seen anything in the direction of trying to make some kind of statement that this is not (inaudiable) at least make some sort of a statement that this is not (inaubible) because it is a known fact that as an underage he wasn't supposed to be in the casino, much less in the company of his father. He was there, there are video tapes to prove that and still the authorities haven't done anything with regard to that specific case.

http://scaredmonkeysradio.com/2007/07/23/the-dana-pretzer-show-monday-july-23rd-2007-special-guests-larry-sinclair-jossy-mansur-ladonna-meredith-attorney-jay-
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« Reply #164 on: September 08, 2010, 01:51:31 PM »

Michael Posner (Continued)

'Rita Cosby Live & Direct' for Sept. 19th
updated 9/20/2005 9:33:56 AM ET


BETH HOLLOWAY TWITTY, NATALEE HOLLOWAY'S MOTHER:  Well, there was a phone call made.  And it was just really having me refer to—you know, I‘d only mentioned the fact I had gotten from prosecuting attorney as far as the open line of credit, and that Joran is in his casino gambling, and I don‘t think there was ever a question that Joran and Paulus Van Der Sloot had been in that Excelsior Casino, and, particularly, on the night of the 29th where he and his father met Natalee.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9407728/
 
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« Reply #165 on: September 09, 2010, 11:44:05 AM »

IT IS NOT EASY!

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Page 219: In each city I have the privilege to speak to several high schools, churches, or law enforcement and civic groups.  This translates to thousands of youths and adults.  Delivering this safety mesage is my triumph over devastation.  If gives me great joy and is tremendously rewarding work.  I think that I can bear the pain of losing Natalee if it means that I can prevent another family from going through our tragic experience.  If even just one young person in tens of thousands is saved, then it's well worth it.

I ask young people to make a conscious decision to stay safe.  They have to make the choice.  And I'm not asking them do anything more than I ask myself.  I have to make difficult choices every day.  I have to make a conscious decision every morning when I wake up not to be bitter, not to live in resentment and let anger control me.  It's not easy.  I ask God to help me.  And I know it's not easy for young people to think about choosing not to get into a situation in which they can't defend themselves.  But we all have to make hard choices.  Every day.
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« Reply #166 on: September 09, 2010, 01:04:01 PM »

Talking To Beth Holloway Five Years After Natalee's Disappearance
05/30/10 1:45 pm   |   reporter: Ebony Hall   posted by: Ebony Hall


Mountain Brook, AL - It was a story that made headlines across the globe. The search for missing Mountain Brook teenager Natalee Holloway. The story that dominated the airwaves- also took over Beth Holloway's life. She is Natalee's mother, and five years later, she is still looking for answers and hoping Aruban prosecutors can close this case.
 
"I'm not sure if there is anything new, but they are processing all the leads and the tips that they have received."
 
Natalee is now presumed dead, but no one knows how she died or why.
 
"We've really tried to be so careful and not to speculate as to what happened an just stick with the known facts."
 
We do know that Natalee was last seen alive with Dutch teen Joran van der Sloot at Carlos n' Charlie's. Over the years, van der Sloot has told many stories of what happened that night. All the while Beth listened to each of these tales hoping to find a thread of truth.
 
"I think there was one where he said he sold her alive.I think there was another where he said she fell of a balcony in a swamp. I think now it's become so muddy for me that no my journey for justice is not ended."
 
It's been five years since Natalee disappeared. Legally, her family could now file for a death certificate in Alabama, but they have not thus far since Natalee disappeared abroad.
 
"We know that Natalee is no longer alive. I know we had talked about that earlier, few years ago,but it is not something that we have done yet."
 
Over the years, Beth and her family have learned how to deal with the pain of losing Natalee, but it is still an open wound. In March, a Pennsylvania couple thought they may have taken a picture of a body- maybe Natalee's body- on the ocean floor. News like that- always makes the family hopeful.
 
"You know I got caught up for a just- you get taken in. But as I said, there is a quicker recovery time where I am able to compartmentalize it and focus on what I can do..."
 
She is now focused on her new life's work which was born out of the death of her daughter.
 
"Tragedy creates an opportunity to make a difference."

Making A Difference
 
Beth Holloway thought she knew exactly who she was more than five years ago.
 
"My life was defined with two children, a marriage, job and home. When a tragedy strikes, you lose everything."
 
During the Memorial Day weekend of 2005, Beth's life changed forever. With Natalee missing, she was now the mother of one- not two. She would later divorce her then husband Jug Twitty. So she was no longer a wife. Her life "definition" changed- and with it so did her life's purpose.
 
"I received the call that all mothers and fathers dread from the moment their children is born- that my daughter was missing."
 
So now her mission is to help others. Beth tells the story of Natalee's disappearance to high school and college students round the nation as part of her work with the Natalee Holloway Resource Center,which launches in D.C. on June 8.
 
"The Natalee Holloway Resource Center is focusing on education and crime prevention, and in the event that a loved one goes missing we have the resources and the contacts to assist the families."
 
Beth says she had no idea who to contact in Aruba when Natalee went missing. She also knew nothing about the Dutch system of Justice or who was in charge. Out of her frustration a new global security and assistance company was born. It's called Mayday 360.
 
"When I present to these high school and college students, I could give them the personal safety and travel safety message, but I really felt like I couldn't equip them with a real tangible resource. And I feel with Mayday 360, I can because that is real time, real security assistance, 24 hours a day, seven days a week."
 
She says her definition of herself continues to evolve, but everything she does now can be traced back five years to Aruba- the place where paradise met tragedy. The place that gave birth to her new life's work and hope that..
 
"No one will ever experience what I did heading home from a family vacation on Memorial Day."


http://www.abc3340.com/news/stories/0510/741129.html
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« Reply #167 on: September 12, 2010, 11:32:30 AM »

THE CLOAK OF COVER

Loving Natalee - Beth Holloway

Page 182
- September 1 Helen calls to say the court is asking for DNA from the Kalpoes and Joran van der Sloot and that their attorneys are fighting this.  She also says the suspects are pointing the finger at one another.

Page 183 - Helen is very positive. "It looks good that they will remain in custody." she says.  Then about three hours after she tells me this encouraging news, a devastating call comes from an AP reporter.

"Paulus van der Sloot and his attorney are bragging to everyone that all three suspects are getting out day after tomorrow!

Then all the media start calling.  I call Helen, then FBI agent Bill and the U.S. vice-consul.  None of them have this information.  So we tell the media it must be a rumor.  But the word is out all over the island to the defense side that all three suspects will walk.

Four and a half hours after this announcement is made to international media by Joran's father and his defense team, the FBI calls to tell me it is indeed true.  So the three suspects who were last seen with my daughter, and who offered multiple versions of what happened that night, will go free.  And we are the last ones to find out.

Natalee's handwriting on her immigration card states that the duration of her stay here would be four nights.  It has been ninety-five.  And I have painstakingly counted every one of them.

When Helen calls, I stand in a corner of the hotel room, phone to my ear, tapping my head against the wall over and over.  Tears fall hard.  "I'm done, Helen.  I'm done.  No justice for Natalee in Aruba.  I'm done."

Pages 184 - And Bill explains how the release of the three suspects happened.  "The information the FBI was given was that the judge gave Joran thirty more days, up to October 1.  And he gave the Kalpoes eight more days.  But then the judge flew back from Curacao and faxed a reverse decision from there."  The reverse decision decreed that all three will go free.

The opportunity to hide behind Hurricane Katrina is too inviting.  The three suspects will be released while all eyes are turned to the devastation in New Orlean.

Page 185 - The last announcement I make on television is never seen.  Hurricane Katrina gives the island the cloak of cover it needs to let the suspects walk free and relieve itself of its media burden.
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Page 219: I have to make difficult choices every day.  I have to make a conscious decision every morning when I wake up not to be bitter, not to live in resentment and let anger control me.  It's not easy.  I ask God to help me.
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« Reply #168 on: September 12, 2010, 11:36:13 AM »

FOUR DAYS PRIOR

Karin Janssen - Second Arrest - August, 2005

Brothers arrested again in Aruba case
Two held on suspicion of acting with others in teen's rape, killing
Saturday, August 27, 2005 Posted: 0319 GMT (1119 HKT)


(CNN) -- After being detained and then released last month in Natalee Holloway's disappearance, two brothers were arrested again Friday in Aruba on suspicion they acted "together with other people" in raping and killing the Alabama teen, the prosecutor's office said.

Without elaborating on the evidence, the office said in a statement that "new facts and circumstances" led them to re-arrest Satish Kalpoe, 18 and brother Deepak, 21.

"They are suspected of the primary criminal act of together with other people committing premeditated murder, alternately together with other people murdering somebody, more alternately rob a person of her liberty with fatal consequences and even more alternately raping somebody," the statement said.

"Aside from these suspicions against the two brothers, there are new suspicions, which at this point the prosecutor is not commenting on."


http://edition.cnn.com/2005/LAW/08/26/aruba.arrests/index.html


ARUBAN ATTORNEYS

Arlene Ellis-Schipper - Aruban Attorney

Nancy Grace - July 20, 2005


ARLENE ELLIS-SCHIPPER, ARUBAN ATTORNEY: There is no grand jury in Aruba. It`s a different system.  You are arrested based on suspicion, on strong suspicion.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0507/14/ng.01.html


On the Record w/Greta - August 30, 2005

ARLENE ELLIS-SCHIPPER, ARUBAN ATTORNEY: You know, the prosecution and the investigation is moving very carefully. They don't want to make more mistakes, and they are very careful. So they must have had some real, real evidence and new facts that they felt confident enough to haul them back in.

It means that the investigation is moving forward and there's hope that we might go towards a trial because, at first, I was doubting whether we were even facing a trial. It shows that the police have done some good work and apparently gathered evidence, new evidence enough for to bring them back in custody.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,167372,00.html


Noraina Pietersz - Aruban Attorney

Associated Press- June 9, 2005

Under Aruban law, only serious suspicion from investigators — not solid evidence — is needed for a judge to rule that suspects can be held, Pietersz said.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8079019/
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« Reply #169 on: September 12, 2010, 12:42:56 PM »

JUNE, 2005



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MAY 30, 2010

Talking To Beth Holloway Five Years After Natalee's Disappearance
05/30/10 1:45 pm


"Tragedy creates an opportunity to make a difference."

Making A Difference
 
Beth tells the story of Natalee's disappearance to high school and college students round the nation as part of her work with the Natalee Holloway Resource Center,which launches in D.C. on June 8

"The Natalee Holloway Resource Center is focusing on education and crime prevention, and in the event that a loved one goes missing we have the resources and the contacts to assist the families."
 
http://www.abc3340.com/news/stories/0510/741129.html

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Natalee Holloway Resource Center (NHRC)

http://www.crimemuseum.org/NHRC
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« Reply #170 on: September 14, 2010, 12:45:48 PM »

Satish marries?

it somehow it feels so wrong that Satish is afforded the special milestones of life when it is considered that he was a participant in denying Natalee her turning points.  It does not seem right that life has moved on for Satish while Natalee parents remain in a perpetual H--- of not knowing ... a perpetual H--- that Satish has the ability of releasing them as well as redeeming himself in the process.

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Isaiah 55:8-9

"My thoughts are not your thoughts, nor are your ways My ways,' says the Lord.
'For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are My ways higher than your ways, And My thoughts than your thoughts."


DADDY'S LITTLE GIRL

Corruption in Paradise - Dave Holloway

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: I watched as she received her high school diploma, and I took pictures of her at her graduation ceremony.  I planned to be there when she graduated from college and then medical school.  My pride would have enveloped us both.  I had long imagined the day when I would see my Natalee in her beautiful white wedding grown.  We would meet in the back of the church for her last moment as "daddy's little girl" and, as she encircled my arm with hers, I would lean down and whisper the words that all fathers must say to their daughters on that very special day, "I love you."  I would walk her down the aisle and proudly offer her hand to her fiance, and I would return to my seat knowing that my girl had accomplished all that a father could desire.  At that moment, it would be clear that the first tier of her life with me had come to an end and that the man she would now look to for approval and love would be her husband.  But she would always be my little Natalee ... always.


IT IS NOT EASY!

Loving Natalee - Beth Holloway

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In each city I have the privilege to speak to several high schools, churches, or law enforcement and civic groups.  This translates to thousands of youths and adults.  Delivering this safety mesage is my triumph over devastation.  If gives me great joy and is tremendously rewarding work.  I think that I can bear the pain of losing Natalee if it means that I can prevent another family from going through our tragic experience.  If even just one young person in tens of thousands is saved, then it's well worth it.

I ask young people to make a conscious decision to stay safe.  They have to make the choice.  And I'm not asking them do anything more than I ask myself.  I have to make difficult choices every day.  I have to make a conscious decision every morning when I wake up not to be bitter, not to live in resentment and let anger control me.  It's not easy.  I ask God to help me.  And I know it's not easy for young people to think about choosing not to get into a situation in which they can't defend themselves.  But we all have to make hard choices.  Every day.
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« Reply #171 on: September 20, 2010, 01:38:14 PM »

Dave Holloway was was one with Beth regarding the perception of "a seedy, dangerous and corrupt Aruba" in regards to a travel boycott of the Island until justice prevailed for their daughter.

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Lexy Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 5:44 pm

Julia Renfro:-
She asked the world to hit Aruba in the pockets, she asked the world not to travel to Aruba... She said Aruba was "seedy", dangerous and corrupt for the world to hear. She tried to steal the food off the Aruban families' tables, the books from the Aruban schools, 40% of the Police budget and millions of dollars were spent looking for her daughter, yet Beth signed a release waiver in Alabama releasing the travel agent from responsibility if something were to happen to her. The truth is, Beth sent her minor child to a foreign country to drink and co-ed party unsupervised. She signed the Release, she let her go, she is responsible. Don't give her a voice unless she is there to apologize to the good people of Aruba for the damage she did to this island.

Renee Gielen:- I do not only agree with Julia, but there is much more.

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  While customers must pass by a bouncer at the door, there was no indication that he was stopping anyone from entering. The bar was packed with teenagers doing Jell-O shots and sleazy-looking island boys preying on the beautiful young female tourist.  ... I did not want to stay inside, so we hung out around the street corners. In less than two hours, we probably experienced at least ten to fifteen offers from various drug dealers who wanted us to buy from them.

Page 16:  During our daylight searches throughout the island, our group came across many abandoned houses where drug addicts had left razors and other drug paraphernalia. Some were filled with foul smelling odors, feces, urine, cardboard boxes they used as blankets or beds, and general trash. One of those houses was located right next to a fine restaurant near the hotel area and a McDonald’s.  ... Several times, people came into the hotel to meet with other locals and an apparent drug deal was taking place. The person would come in to scope out the area prior to doing the deal.

Page 182:  I asked Dompig to do the interview of Koen instead of having Jacobs do it. I became concerned because he said he would have to discuss it with Jacobs first. Several weeks later, I heard that Koen's father had been interviewed, but Koen had not been questioned yet. I wondered if they were prepping the father to prep his son for questioning. That was something that seemed all to familiar.

Page 183:  I commented to Jacobs about how short my statement was. He said that I could add anything I wanted to it. Also, I noticed that Eric Soemers's name was on it, but that detective was not even present during the interview. Now I wondered if Jacobs was making up everyone's statement and getting Eric to sign on to them. If that were the case, he could state anything he wanted, and it would look like an official statement made in front of a witness.

Page 194:  On November 8, 2005, Alabama Governor Bob Rile held a televised press conference with Beth and Jug Twitty at his side during which he called for a travel boycott of Aruba.  He also urged all fifty states to back him in the boycott, stating, "Until their lack of law enforcement practices can be evalutation, and until they offer some resolution in the Natalee's case, tourists are not safe in Aruba or any Dutch Territories."

Page 195:  While I still had mixed feelings about a boycott, I stood strong in supporting my government in any decisions they made.  The people of Aruba have elected their officials, and their officials have spoken.  We elect our officials, and they have decided what is necessary for the people.

Page 196:  I can no longer sit on the fence on this issue.  It has not been an easy decision for me to make.  But I need to know what happened to my daughter, and I do believe that a boycott may be the only way we will get anybody over there to talk to us or to turn in the people who are reponsible for her disappearance.

Considering all that had transpired, I changed my position In early December 2005, I called Mississippi Governor Haley Barbour's office to ask that he join Alabama Governor Bob Riley and Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee in the travel boycott of Aruba.  Since that time, Georgia Governor Sonny Purdue has also come on board in support of the boycott.  However, I had waitied over a month to hear back from Governor Barbour when he made an announcement that he will not join in on the boycott.  I am surprised that he never responded to me, and I am truly disappointed that he does not feel a boycott is warranted.
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« Reply #172 on: September 20, 2010, 01:41:16 PM »

When Natalee Holloway was sharing her personal definition of a hero in her journal ... I believe she was defining the character of her own mother ... the character which proved unfailing when put to the ultimate test.

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:  As I read on in the journal, I discover that one of the most moving entries is her desription of a hero.  Natalee writes:

"A Hero is someone who puts others before himself.  He or she is very selfless and cares about the well-being of others.  Heroes also accept life's challenges and remain strong through tough times.  They also have a strong sense of determination and stick to goals and morals.  I believe that heroes uphold morals and try to encourage others to live life morally correct.  Heroes are not only just people called in times of physical danger, but individuals that can both emotionally and physically help people get through rough times.  A hero should always show respect for other people as well as respect for himself."

Instantly I realize that Natalee is poignantly describing the people who have reached out to help her family get through this "tough time."  It's almost as if she is thanking everyone herself by recognizing the importance of selfless people.  And I am amazed at her profound words here.  I sit and read the entire journal ...
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« Reply #173 on: September 20, 2010, 01:42:45 PM »

I NEED TO KNOW!

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I grasped at straws. I was desperate. I bloodied by hands from ripping up rocks on the beach in the hopes of finding one tiny shred of evidence. I performed the revolting task of tearing through the contents of a garbage dump in search of my daughter’s body. I scoured crack houses looking to see if Natalee was being held captive in one of them. When officials found out that Americans were going into those places and shaking things up, they became infuriated and told me to back off.

I am a father who has no idea what has happened to my child. The questions run through my mind all day long. They keep me awake at night. Is she dead? Is she alive? Is she being held captive somewhere? Are they hurting her? Is she crying out for me? I need to know. I need to find some peace, one way or another.
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Forgiveness vs Justice

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They appreciate the kind words, especially from someone as knowledgeable as you are about the case. It is indeed a gift to be strong enough as a person to forgive someone, as the forgiver is rewarded far greater than the forgiven I believe. I hope that Beth and Dave in particular prove strong enough to one day be able to forgive Joran, even while insisting that justice be accomplished. A heart full of hatred has no room for love,enjoyment, contentment, and happiness. A heart full of hatred is a heavy heart to bear.

The trick is to be able to grant forgiveness, but still be able to focus on pushing for justice. At this point, I feel as if the people allegedly attacking Joran, are actually the people who represent hope and a future for Joran. If he isn't allowed to confess and repent, he will have no chance for a productive rewarding life. It is his parents and their friends, the forces from the dark, who are holding on to Joran steadfastly trying to keep him from the love of God.

Some people will say that it doesn't seem that my behavior for example is reflective of Christian teachings, and I honestly don't know the answer to that. I feel that the court of public opinion is the only viable means to seeing that justice is served and that Joran is driven into the arms of his Father. For me, to a certain degree, it means playing this out in the public arena, and to do that sometimes I make mean spirited remarks about Joran. But I can forgive Joran and still feel compelled to make sure he is not content in his life absent repentance and confession, and that is what I try and do. I don't have to feel he goes unpunished, and I honestly would punish him myself if ever given the opportunity, to be able to forgive him.

I believe as I am spanking his butt I will be saying that this is going to hurt me more than it does you:), but you deserve and need this, and of course I feel obligated to give it to you. Usually that kind of love comes at the hands of your father, at a much earlier age. To that all I can say is Joran, better late than never, and I am truly sorry your father did such a miserable job raising you.

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« Reply #175 on: September 20, 2010, 02:07:48 PM »

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  Rested and refreshed, we leave Memphis late Monday morning with Linda driving and Marilyn up front with her.  I take the backseat.  We sail along, chatting like we alway do, talking about our plans for another road trip one day soon.  Marilyn and I are happily speculating about what our daughters' reactions will be when they open their presents to find a set of extraordinary Wizard of Oz figures.  Natalee will gasp with excitement when she sees these.  Before we know it, we've crossed over into Mississippi.  Somewhere amid our conversation, between the chuckles and the small talk, my cell phone rings. I don't recognize the number, but answer it anyway, which I usually don't do.

It's a young girl.  "Mrs. Twitty?  My mom ... umm ... my mom, she umm ... wants to talk to you."  It's the daughter of Judi, the travel agent.  She developed appendicitis right before the trip, so she and Jodi didn't get to go to Aruba.  They are in Birmingham.  It seems like an eternity before Jodi takes the phone.

"Tell me what's going on," I say in a voice much firmer than the one I usually hear coming from my mouth.

She simply says, "Natalee didn't show up this morning to get on the plane."

And instantly I know.  It's more than a mother's intuition.  It's certainty.  Something terrible has happened.  I have just answered the proverbial dreaded phone call that no mother or father every wants to receive.  The one we fear from the moment our children are born.  The one that changes a parent's life forever.
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« Reply #176 on: September 20, 2010, 02:12:32 PM »

THE FERIOUS PROTECTION

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I have to say that I have never seen such a miracle as is evidenced by the endless dedication to the truth that the existence of this site and the participation of you posters represents. Whenever Beth has been too tired to speak or prohibited by the process to talk, this group has always, without fail, stepped up to the plate and pushed this process forward. Only the hand of God could have created the resources and dedication required to have accomplished this. Every member of this site should pat themselves on their back for a job well done. I am impressed, amazed, and in awe, not to mention forever thankful to each and every one of you as it is and has been a pleasure to watch the ferious protection you have provided Beth as it makes me believe in the existence of a God and the humanity of man.

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« Reply #177 on: September 20, 2010, 02:14:34 PM »

THE VOICE FOR NATALEE

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BETH HOLLOWAY, NATALEE HOLLOWAY'S MOTHER:  I met him (Prime Minister Oduber) in his office. And you know, the main things that we went over in the meeting, Greta — you know, I wanted to make it perfectly clear that — you know, Aruba is a small island. We agreed upon that. And this island, you know, it's well connected. Everyone knows everyone. And I wanted to make sure he knew there's no way that I will accept not having answers as to where Natalee is. And if I have to spend the next 40 years being the voice for her out of Aruba.

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« Reply #178 on: September 24, 2010, 11:36:17 AM »




http://www.amigoe.com/artman/publish/artikel_72923.php

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ARUBA



Van der Straten new drug coordinator

May 24, 2010, 13:23 (GMT -04:00)

ORANGE CITY - Former police commissioner Jan van der Straten is from June 15 to head the National Agency for Drug Affairs. He succeeds Eric Nassy on. Van der Straten has been given the job because he understands much of the functioning of public administration, says the government. His knowledge was very useful, because the field office of the drug business touches various ministries. On paper, Van der Straten responsibility to the Minister of Health and Sports Richard Visser (AVP), but in practice he will also collaborate with many other departments. Van der Straten, who has reached retirement age, worked until recently as Interim Director at Instituto di Cultura.



PG on factual investigation Holloway: ‘No evidence of negative role Van der Straten’
10 Jul, 2010, 08:16 (GMT -04:00)


ORANJESTAD — No evidence was found that the alleged relationship between former corps chief Jan van der Straten and the Van der Sloot-family played a negative role in the investigation into the disappearance of Natalee Holloway. Attorney General (PG), Rob Pietersz announced this yesterday afternoon.

Statements from former Minister of Justice Rudy Croes (MEP) at the end of 2008 were reason for the Public Prosecutor (OM) to start a factual inquiry into the initial phase of the investigation regarding the disappearance of Holloway. According to Croes, Van der Straten had supposedly consciously hindered the investigation during the crucial initial phase. “However, the statements from Croes could not be proven,” says Solicitor General Taco Stein before the Amigoe“, nor did there appear to be a relationship between Van der Straten and Van der Sloot.”

In a reply to this newspaper, former commissioner Jan van der Straten states he is ‘very happy’ with the report’s conclusions. “My family and I are seriously prejudiced by Croes’ statements and the subsequent news coverage in the media. My good name is smirched.” For that matter, he emphasizes the grief, which his family was subjected to, pales into insignificance in comparison with the grief of the Holloway-family. By his own account, as a direct involved party Van der Straten was already informed earlier by the OM on the conclusions of the factual investigation. Whether the former corps chief was also informed on the contents of the entire report, he did not wish to say. “That was agreed upon with the Public Prosecutor. I am not going to elaborate on the contents at all.” Solicitor General Stein states that Van der Straten ‘knows a little more’ about the contents of the final report, but was not given inspection of such.

At the onset of the factual investigation, it was announced the results of such would be made public in main lines after the completion of this investigation. In February of this year it was announced that the final report of the National Criminal Investigation Department was with the OM. Attorney General Pietersz, who opened the factual investigation at the beginning of 2009, had not wanted to respond at that time ‘because the report was to be discussed internally first’. With the recent announcement, this case is finished as far as the OM is concerned. “We see no reason to continue such”.

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The Holloway-case recently received considerable attention again due to the apprehension of Joran van der Sloot in Peru. The 22-year old is in custody there on suspicion of the robbery with murder of Stephany Flores on May 31st. Remarkably enough, the murder of Flores was committed exactly five years after the disappearance of Natalee Holloway. Holloway had disappeared in 2005 after spending an evening in nightclub Carlos and Charlies. Joran was the last person who had seen her. He is still the main suspect in this case.

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