Natalee Case Discussion #817 4/22/09 - 4/30/09

[Anna]

I am SO sorry kerm honey!!!  I cannot believe they would stoop that low.  To think, they were once people that we trusted with everything. 

That they would discard their integrity all in favor of the "pond search hoax", even AFTER we had pointed out the many inconsistencies in the "witness" statement - to the point of giving out your personal info so their cohorts could try and find any little bit of dirt on you for Shooting The Messenger purposes is making me, very VERY angry.

I wish you had told me this sooner, my friend.

Believe me, I was probably more shocked then anyone to see it with my own eyes from people that we trusted.
All because they want to protect Capslockwizard! Well, they don't even know the truth about all of that pond hoax - yet.
Operative word is .....yet. tick...tock....

Mention the Pond search and have your personal information posted and that about your kids.

Tell me what right or why anybody should be posting about another persons kids?  For ANY reason.  And for the record, they lie about what I have said but even so, why discuss them? 

I have NEVER posted the things some of these haters claim but even if I had, why would they be discussing posters kids, etc.? 

As I said, mention that pond hoax and watch them go!

Did we ever have any final report on that, BTW?  I mean other than Aruban news sources saying that Officially nothing found as promised so many, many times?

[Tamikosmom]

Thank you Janet.

I cannot fathom that the people who have been attacking kermit and others have all been doing it based on this Bull Sh*t from Lisa.

Every single little thing he states can be proven to the contrary.  And has been.

I'm still trying to figure out who is the liar here - Kyle (boy, that would be dumb as everything stated as his words to us can be factually proven) or Lisa?

BOTTOM LINE:   Kyle Kingman is feeding Lou and Jug a load of BS in his attempt to deny his own words to the Natalee's Freebirds.

Lou is aware but has chosen to disregard Kyle Kingman's own words to the Natalee's Freebirds but ... if Jug Twitty has not aware ...

 

Jen ... you and Kermit are Godsends to the Natalee Holloway cause.  The John Silvetti participation in furthering the Aruban coverup that has prevented justice from prevailing since the getgo ... MUST BE EXPOSED.

Janet

[Helen Back]

Wow.....Just Wow!

Thanks, Kermit, Jen, Janet, and all for putting this info together and bringing it to light so clearly.

I continue to be shocked.  It seems we are infiltrated here on a regular basis.  I am so grateful for the information that has been compiled here and shared openly.

I agree fully with Janet's statement:

Jen ... you and Kermit are Godsends to the Natalee Holloway cause.

The conflicts of interest of the Persistence Mission are clearly outlined here, and those who have forfeited an opportunity to bring answers or some small measure of justice to Natalee Holloway and her loved ones, will have some hell to pay.  For those who continue to go out of their way to block the truth about what happened to Natalee, well..........hell is not hot enough for you.

 

[Keepthefaith]

                 I PROUDLY STAND WITH THE FROG..

[bastibro]

Hi guys!

Dutch SBS6 Shownews just announced (if I’m correct) they will air the most important parts of the Joran-polygraph-test-tape tonight.

Terror Jaap (winner of the “The Golden Cage” television-show) told SBS6 Hart-van-Nederland he was told that Joran was member of his Hyves (social-network) fan-site. There TJ contacted Joran and learned Joran had a big gambling-debt at a person ‘you don’t want to have a debt with’. So TJ saw his change to have Joran obliged to him by lending him the money to pay off the debt.

Later he proposed to Joran to have him tested at the lie detector. Joran agreed but didn’t show up when TJ had everything ready. Then TJ threatened him to make a documentary about how Joran misled him. That turned Joran into cooperating with the show.
Terror Jaap: Joran sat here as a small boy that lost his mother. Totally drawn back, trembling, sweating...

Some other remarks from the intro to the show:
After the first test-day the atmospere was much less comfortable.
Joran has a new girlfriend.
Joran doesn’t want to be on the run anymore. He totally has had enough of it.
He already has left the Netherlands again.

More later!

[Kermit]

Thank you Janet.

I cannot fathom that the people who have been attacking kermit and others have all been doing it based on this Bull Sh*t from Lisa.

Every single little thing he states can be proven to the contrary.  And has been.

I'm still trying to figure out who is the liar here - Kyle (boy, that would be dumb as everything stated as his words to us can be factually proven) or Lisa?

BOTTOM LINE:   Kyle Kingman is feeding Lou and Jug a load of BS in his attempt to deny his own words to the Natalee's Freebirds.

Lou is aware but has chosen to disregard Kyle Kingman's own words to the Natalee's Freebirds but ... if Jug Twitty has not aware ...

 

Jen ... you and Kermit are Godsends to the Natalee Holloway cause.  The John Silvetti participation in furthering the Aruban coverup that has prevented justice from prevailing since the getgo ... MUST BE EXPOSED.

Janet

Thank you Janet. It's a joint effort.

[Kermit]

                 I PROUDLY STAND WITH THE FROG..

Thank you.
Monkeys are the best.

[Kermit]

Wow.....Just Wow!

Thanks, Kermit, Jen, Janet, and all for putting this info together and bringing it to light so clearly.

I continue to be shocked.  It seems we are infiltrated here on a regular basis.  I am so grateful for the information that has been compiled here and shared openly.

I agree fully with Janet's statement:

Jen ... you and Kermit are Godsends to the Natalee Holloway cause.

The conflicts of interest of the Persistence Mission are clearly outlined here, and those who have forfeited an opportunity to bring answers or some small measure of justice to Natalee Holloway and her loved ones, will have some hell to pay.  For those who continue to go out of their way to block the truth about what happened to Natalee, well..........hell is not hot enough for you.

 

tick.....tock

[Kermit]

Mention the Pond search and have your personal information posted and that about your kids.

Tell me what right or why anybody should be posting about another persons kids?  For ANY reason.  And for the record, they lie about what I have said but even so, why discuss them? 

I have NEVER posted the things some of these haters claim but even if I had, why would they be discussing posters kids, etc.? 

As I said, mention that pond hoax and watch them go!

Did we ever have any final report on that, BTW?  I mean other than Aruban news sources saying that Officially nothing found as promised so many, many times?

It's a criminal offense in the United States

[Tamikosmom]

I have not had a chance to read it.
It having come from someone that I know lies .....well I just figured she was lying to her buddies about what Kyle said.

Kerm - I think that in your posting of it here, it was just a misapplied keystroke with the blue color.  I did put all of my original words from my letter to Klaas back in the black color to clear that up.

Yes - either Lisa lied in her post, or Kyle lied to her.  I wouldn't imagine that Kyle would lie about things he knows can be proven otherwise?

Which then brings up another good question.

TWO former Freebirds are members there, as I understand it?  Yapperz and Hiker?

Why did they let these lies perpetuate on that forum?

They KNOW exactly how (and by whom!) Beth's information was given to Kyle for him to contact her.

Don't make me post copies of THOSE posts (and PM's I was sent)!!

They have copies of Kyle's posts (I watched them make those copies) so they KNOW, and can go back and refer to, all the other lies in this supposed response from him as well.

I guess I'm just thoroughly stunned and disgusted that they would let these things go uncontested at their newly found home.

They KNOW either Lisa was lying, or Kyle was.
 

Those two freebirds are part of the give out personal information. Just so you know. I have screenshots of them doing it, just in case they think they are going to lie their way out of it!  What's that song - It's too late to apologize!

 

[Helen Back]

Hi guys!

Dutch SBS6 Shownews just announced (if I’m correct) they will air the most important parts of the Joran-polygraph-test-tape tonight.

Terror Jaap (winner of the “The Golden Cage” television-show) told SBS6 Hart-van-Nederland he was told that Joran was member of his Hyves (social-network) fan-site. There TJ contacted Joran and learned Joran had a big gambling-debt at a person ‘you don’t want to have a debt with’. So TJ saw his change to have Joran obliged to him by lending him the money to pay off the debt.

Later he proposed to Joran to have him tested at the lie detector. Joran agreed but didn’t show up when TJ had everything ready. Then TJ threatened him to make a documentary about how Joran misled him. That turned Joran into cooperating with the show.
Terror Jaap: Joran sat here as a small boy that lost his mother. Totally drawn back, trembling, sweating...

Some other remarks from the intro to the show:
After the first test-day the atmospere was much less comfortable.
Joran has a new girlfriend.
Joran doesn’t want to be on the run anymore. He totally has had enough of it.
He already has left the Netherlands again.

More later!

Who needs a lie detector?

As we all know, when Joran's lips are moving he's lying.

Does anyone really care what he says anymore?

The authorities in Aruba don't.  If he said he kidnapped and killed and disposed of Natalee Holloway, and his father was involved, and the polygraph confirmed it, the authorities in Aruba and the Netherlands would do nothing.

They would say that polygraphs are not acceptable in court and Joran always lies, therefore there is no evidence that is useful.....blah blah blah blah blah

Kermit......I'm counting on the countdown.

Tick tock

I'm patient

 

[Kermit]

Your own father


Just remember folks the Lincoln Gomez connected to Oil connected to Antonio Carlos connected to Paulus van der Sloot connectioned to Anita van der Sloot connected to Judge Smid connected to Oduber....connected to.....oil connected to....

You better sequel like a pig.............

tick...tock

[Keepthefaith]

Bastibro..How come DiSetti won't answer your question?Any ideas!

[Kermit]

Kermit......I'm counting on the countdown.

Tick tock

I'm patient

It's coming. I will expose the truth of the cover-up.
ALL ASPECTS.

[Kermit]

Not that I want to interrupt anyone's train of thought here but is there any way to get this whole FBI poster on a T-shirt? PLEASE SEE:  http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/seekinfo/holloway.htm

You might ask in the Travel thread. Someone knows over there how to print T-shirts I think.

[bastibro]

Bastibro..How come DiSetti won't answer your question?Any ideas!

I was just looking for his post
If he didn`t answer I guess he doesn`t speak Dutch.

[2NJSons_Mom]

Did someone say tick tock?     

[Tamikosmom]

Who needs a lie detector?

As we all know, when Joran's lips are moving he's lying.

Does anyone really care what he says anymore?

The authorities in Aruba don't.  If he said he kidnapped and killed and disposed of Natalee Holloway, and his father was involved, and the polygraph confirmed it, the authorities in Aruba and the Netherlands would do nothing.

They would say that polygraphs are not acceptable in court and Joran always lies, therefore there is no evidence that is useful.....blah blah blah blah blah

Kermit......I'm counting on the countdown.

Tick tock

I'm patient

 

 

[bastibro]

Bastibro..How come DiSetti won't answer your question?Any ideas!

I was just looking for his post
If he didn`t answer I guess he doesn`t speak Dutch.

He didn`t answer cageman to?

[Helen Back]

Kermit......I'm counting on the countdown.

Tick tock

I'm patient

It's coming. I will expose the truth of the cover-up.
ALL ASPECTS.

I can't wait!  But I'm trying.

I take heart when I think about the fact that it will ALL COME OUT! 


Thanks.