Natalee Case Discussion #818 4/30/09 - 5/17/09

[Tamikosmom]

According to Arlene Ellis-Schipper ... an Aruban attorney ... the investigation spokesperson ... under Dutch Law the family of the main suspect is given a free pass to obstruction the investigation.

Take note.  Paulus van der Sloot claims in his June 18, 2005 witness statement that Joran affirmed that Freddy's statement revealed the truth.

JUSTICE FOR NATALEE HOLLOWAY NEVER STOOD A CHANCE!!

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KARIN JANSSEN - ARUBAN PROSECUTOR

'The Abrams Report' - June 30, 2005

CAREN JANSSEN, CHIEF PROSECUTOR IN ARUBA: The father has spoken with those three suspects and he said he gave them some legal advice, but I think the advices was going further than that. They spoke about the situation that when there is no body, you don‘t have a case and that was already in the first day after the disappearance. And secondly, the father and the mother have asked a friend of Joran, the suspect, the minor suspect, to come to their home to tell them what he has explained to the police. That is, well, I can say, was an obstruction of the investigation.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8416795/

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ARLENE ELLIS-SCHIPPER - ARUBAN ATTORNEY

‘The Abrams Report’ - July 1, 2005.

ARLENE ELLIS-SCHIPPER, ARUBAN ATTORNEY: Well basically obstruction of justice is a criminal offense in our criminal code. However, there is an exoneration for family members in the first degree. So in the case of Mr. Van der Sloot it would not apply.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8430777

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PAULUS VAN DER SLOOT - FATHER OF MAIN SUSPECT

Paulus van der Sloot - Witness Statement - June 18, 2005

I believed the story that Joran, Deepak and Satish told, until Joran changed his statement. After that Freddy came to us and told us a different story. Joran had gone with the girl to the beach. (With Freddy is meant the witness Freddy ZEDAN; comment TROMP).

Freddy had told this story shortly after he was interviewed by the police. He had called my wife and had said that he found it important to tell the truth. After that he came over to us and he first talked to my wife. After that he came back one time and and he spoke with Joran's lawyer, his parents, me and my wife were also present. My wife and myself were very crushed/saddened/injured and angry at Joran for apparently not telling us the truth. My wife and the lawyer then confronted Joran about this.  According to my wife Joran reacted calmly and said that he had always told Freddy the truth.

[texasmom]

http://www.amigoe.com/artman/publish/artikel_56396.php

Google translation:

Complaint excessive violence arrest team

May 11, 2009, 17:09 (GMT -04:00)

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ORANGE CITY - Police Commissioner Dolfi Richardson was heard last Friday after a family had filed a complaint against the Arrest Team. This special unit of the police in November last year would have used excessive force in arresting suspected M.

The wife of M. testified in the courtroom and accused members of the Arrest Team that they had shot dead her dog. Agents also have her husband beaten. The police unit was invaded while they were sleeping. According to the woman were her children to crude way gemaand to keep quiet while they were completely out of sorts. They could not appreciate it that the press was that the whole was filmed and photographs made by her husband on television and the Internet were distributed.

Commissioner Richardson, under whose responsibility the Arrest Team is said that there was no report in which abuses have been reported. Normally this would be done, he said. He also denied that members of the team of the family dog shot. On the question of the judge how it Saturday with the press, said Richardson, in principle, the Arrest Team no contact with journalists. That the press during the invasion still was present, the police unit as a problem. The Commissioner believes that the press car of the Arrest Team follows if uitrukt.

The judge is ruling shortly in the case.

[Blue Moon]

http://www.amigoe.com/artman/publish/artikel_56396.php

Google translation:

Complaint excessive violence arrest team

May 11, 2009, 17:09 (GMT -04:00)

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  Print this article
 
ORANGE CITY - Police Commissioner Dolfi Richardson was heard last Friday after a family had filed a complaint against the Arrest Team. This special unit of the police in November last year would have used excessive force in arresting suspected M.

The wife of M. testified in the courtroom and accused members of the Arrest Team that they had shot dead her dog. Agents also have her husband beaten. The police unit was invaded while they were sleeping. According to the woman were her children to crude way gemaand to keep quiet while they were completely out of sorts. They could not appreciate it that the press was that the whole was filmed and photographs made by her husband on television and the Internet were distributed.

Commissioner Richardson, under whose responsibility the Arrest Team is said that there was no report in which abuses have been reported. Normally this would be done, he said. He also denied that members of the team of the family dog shot. On the question of the judge how it Saturday with the press, said Richardson, in principle, the Arrest Team no contact with journalists. That the press during the invasion still was present, the police unit as a problem. The Commissioner believes that the press car of the Arrest Team follows if uitrukt.

The judge is ruling shortly in the case.

Heaven forbids if this police force is caught in the act beating up a suspect and really, does it have to be reported and on the internet no less.  The wife must have read about it here on the Crime thread.   

[San]

A little update on Val.

 What are your plans after graduation?

I’m still keeping all of my options open, and it’s hard to say what I want to do without knowing what will happen these next three and a half years. I do know it is my hope to find a job in the industry that I love and become successful in all areas of my life.

I feel that many people forget that the main goal of life should be making oneself happy, and the simple answer to my plans after school would be “make myself happy.”

http://www.emerson.edu/egn/community/undergraduate/Valentijn-Van-Der-Sloot.cfm

Valentijn Van Der Sloot is still getting used to the weather in Boston. From Aruba, he used to go to the beach and kite-surf. He is the Commercial Producer for Emerson Independent Video (EIV), a photographer for Emmagazine, and a member of Developed Images, the Center for Diversity, and the Emerson Channel.

Why am I not surprised.  He fits right in with his brother and father. 

[2NJSons_Mom]

A little update on Val.

 What are your plans after graduation?

I’m still keeping all of my options open, and it’s hard to say what I want to do without knowing what will happen these next three and a half years. I do know it is my hope to find a job in the industry that I love and become successful in all areas of my life.

I feel that many people forget that the main goal of life should be making oneself happy, and the simple answer to my plans after school would be “make myself happy.”

http://www.emerson.edu/egn/community/undergraduate/Valentijn-Van-Der-Sloot.cfm

Valentijn Van Der Sloot is still getting used to the weather in Boston. From Aruba, he used to go to the beach and kite-surf. He is the Commercial Producer for Emerson Independent Video (EIV), a photographer for Emmagazine, and a member of Developed Images, the Center for Diversity, and the Emerson Channel.

Why am I not surprised.  He fits right in with his brother and father. 

Don't forget the younger brother, Sebastian, also likes to video himself.       

[klaasend]

Aruba
Adventure Golf close
May 11, 2009, 17:10 (GMT -04:00)




 
Adventure Golf is closed. Affecting workers in the dark rumors about a possible go-around.

 
ORANGE CITY - The mini golf course Adventure Golf has its doors closed. Last Sunday noted that all locks employees of the company were changed.
Also there was a letter on the front with the message that the company is dismantled and that the contracts with about twenty employees will be dissolved.

From the proceeds of the execution sale, the last salary paid. This morning, employees of Department of Labor to Adventure Golf & Research stepped on to discuss next steps. There is great uncertainty among the employees of the fun park along the Sasakiweg. Despite the statement that the company is liquidated, there are rumors that the company still would have been sold.
Manager Roland Adames is on the island, but has been absent for some time the situation around the golf course cum pub / restaurant.
Department of Labor could no comment on the case as long as they still have no explanation from management, through Adames. For Suzanne Flanegin, administrative assistant at the company, since the aftermath the original owner Joe Mendes, sat the collapse of the company for a while to arrive. "The number of visitors declined, the economy is bad. We had by that time it would run off. But not this way. On my free evening they have all locks changed and then could no one inside. "

According Flanegin was Penny Low, co-owner of Adventure Golf, Alfredo's Restaurant and Black Hog Saloon in March of the island left. "From one day to the other and without a word said against someone." Flanegin and the remaining employees remained behind. "We have worked hard to keep the thing running. Even the foreign workers whose permits after the departure of Low no longer in force, continued to work. "Penny Low on February 27 would still have tried to sell the company quickly on the Web site eBay, but it remained without result. According Flanegin was the policy of low (10 percent owner of the company, the remaining 90 percent is owned by businessman Dan Dill of Oklahoma) is also not conducive to being able to continue running the company in times of crisis. "It was purely aimed at the tourist market and had nothing of the premises. Prices were not adjusted to you after your work here, for a beer. "

Work
In particular, the foreign employees of Adventure Golf now see an uncertain future. According to Suzanne Flanegin, none of these workers coming from Colombia and Jamaica, among other things, authorization for an indefinite time. "I have a couple from Colombia, in order that board. They have their license and now lost their jobs. I voted against them said that they are but in my house can stay. "The workers have strong doubts about whether they ever will get their last salary. "We were told that an execution sale first government, then the bank, the sellers, Setar, and then we turn will come," said Flanegin.

[klaasend]

http://www.clarionledger.com/article/20090511/MULTIMEDIA/90511035/1263/RSS

Beth Holloway, mother of Natalee Holloway, and America's Most Wanted Host John Walsh unveiled the Natalee Holloway Cold Case exhibit at the National Museum of Crime and Punishment in Washington

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/idGZl62jf-0&amp;hl=en&amp;fs=1" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/idGZl62jf-0&amp;hl=en&amp;fs=1</a>

[Lifesong]

 


Thanks, Klaas!

[texasmom]

Thanks Klaas!   

[klaasend]

More on the above:

http://www.myfoxdc.com:80/dpp/news/local/051109_spotlight_back_on_holloway_disappearance

Spotlight Back on
Holloway Disappearance
Updated: Monday, 11 May 2009, 10:36 PM EDT
Published : Monday, 11 May 2009, 10:36 PM EDT

Will Thomas 
by Will Thomas/myfoxdc

WASHINGTON, D.C. - It is a case that sparked a media sensation around the world. High school student Natalee Holloway vanished May 30, 2005 in Aruba during a graduation trip. Four years later there are no new leads in the case.

The National Museum of Crime and Punishment is helping to put the case back in the spotlight. Natalee's case is the newest addition to the Unsolved Crimes exhibit, replacing the now solved Anthrax Murders.
Beth Holloway attended the unveiling Monday afternoon in Northwest Washington to honor her daughter.

"In some way I hope Natalee's case can represent a lot of these young adults that are missing and are most likely murdered," Holloway told Fox 5.

John Walsh, the host of Fox's America's Most Wanted, stood by her side at the museum. Police determined a deceased drifter decapitated Walsh's 6-year-old son. The announcement last December, brought to close a case that has haunted the Walsh family for more than two decades.

"Finding him murdered so horribly was unbearable but at least that ended that chapter of our lives. Beth Holloway doesn't have that closure," Walsh said.

Natalee's mother and John Walsh are also working to bring attention to a missing component in the search for victims.

The Center for Missing and Exploited Children works to find children under the age of 18-years-old. There is no specialized center for missing adults like Natalee, who was 18-years-old at the time of her disappearance.

[texasmom]

5/11/2009 Awe Mainta Page 2

http://awemainta.com/home/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=537:awe-tardi-lo-presenta-evelyn-wever-croes-como-sucesor-di-rudy-croes-riba-lista-di-mep&catid=11:local&Itemid=56



Papiamentu translation:

as awemainta owing to anuncia for of enough time end today tardi will present evelyn wever-croes because; sucesor of rudy croes on list of mep

for of instant cu rudy croes owing to anuncia cu the not will come more on list of mep, awemainta owing to indica cu the person more capacita for remplace is his niece evelyn wever-croes. much was the nombernan of family croes cu was wordo menciona for take over the lugar of the dinastia croes in mep, but not had nothing oficial. at ultimo owing to indica cu will is dr. rafael- croes esun cu will lever list, but finalmente owing to stay dicidi cu is evelyn wever- croes, child of the practicamente owner of mep, hendrik croes is lever the list yellow. evelyn assure is a muher much capacita, study y cu cierto aprecio in comunidad thanks at his trabounan voluntario by one club social. but at self instant have to tell cu the is one specialista on tax y not finansa, dus p’e near ey if is aspirando for her cartera ey, past will have much dificultad. not have to forget also cu the exigencia cu past owing to place for her lever list is cu nilo swaen have to retira, will cual is place the peticion of nel oduber, for her ministernan actual bay one eleccion more, at danger. still can corda the discusion y situation tenso cu owing to being crea hour nilo swaen owing to dicidi of less evelyn for of tax y place ritsma hernandez at his lugar. ey also have to menciona cu evelyn do not mucho love at the departamento ey y in caso cu the can arrive at become minister will have one situation much tenso eyden. but lagando all the puntonan ey one near, can tell cu if evelyn wever- croes mantene his caracter, identidad y profesionalismo as past owing to haci till now, in some year past will can is one politico good capacita for asumi cualkier reto ministeriabel, as wait for cu esey will is the caso y not cu the bay over at the consehonan politico of his father, because ey past will continua cu the politica of venganza y of privilegia friends & family cu is take lugar in the faction mep. if evelyn take the direction ey, past will is his dead politico, as owing to come is happen cu several of the candidatonan on the list yellow, incluyendo his own uncle. awemainta is desea evelyn wever- croes much exito, forza, perseverancia, patience, curashi, boluntad y love own y for prohimo in his carera new because; politico.

[Anna]

FREDDY KNOWS!!

Freddy Armbatzis declares in his June 12, 2005 witness statement that Joran shared with him on May 31, 2005 that the last time he was with Natalee Holloway she "did not regain consciousness" ... she "did not regain consciousness" while in the presence of Joran, Deepak and Satish.

It should be noted that in none of Joran van der Sloot's statement did he declare what Freddy claims.  It should be noted that in none of Deepak and Satish's statements did they declare what Freddy claims.

Inquiring minds would like to know if Freddy Armbatzis could be depose to testify under oath in regards to the defamation lawsuit filed by the Kalpoe brother against Phil McGraw.
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Deepak Kalpoe - Suspect Statement - June 11, 2005

To your question whether Joran told me what he had told Freddy, I can say the following. Joran told me that he had told Freddy the truth and the story that was made up. I know that he trusts Freddy more because they have known each other for a long time. If you go and talk to Freddy, he will tell you the made up story and maybe also the truth.

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Kalpoe v. McGraw, et al.
Case Number: BC3 63401
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Name: Freddy Alexander Arambatzis
Date: 12 June 2005 / 11:05
Pages: 5
Writer/Initiator: Dennis Jacobs & Juan Boezem
Description: witness statement of Joran van der Sloot's neighbor/friend

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Van der Sloot, Joran; Zvezdana Vukojevic (2007) (in Dutch). De zaak Natalee Holloway: mijn eigen verhaal over haar verdwijning op Aruba. Amsterdam: Sijthoff. ISBN 9789021800141. OCLC 150235828.

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Freddy Arambatzis - Witness Statement - June 12, 2005
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I am the best friend and neighbor of Joran. We got to know each other about two years ago. Joran and myself are both really into sports and that is how we became good friends.

(THE LIE?)

Monday afternoon on the 30th, Joran came to my house. He told me that the previous day, Sunday, he had befriended a girl in the Holiday Inn casino and that she had invited him to come to Carlos and Charlies that evening. He went and they danced and drank together. After that he, Deepak Satish and the girl drove off. Her friends saw that. The drove in the direction of the Lighthouse; a white car was behind them and most likely wanted to race Deepak. But that is something Deepak would never do. Joran told me that he fingered and had french kissed the girl while they were driving. He did not say that he had had sex with her. They drove to the Lighthouse, she wanted to see sharks. But Deepak only drove up to the Lighthouse because his car is very low to the ground and cannot drive up to the North side of Aruba. The girl had said to Joran that if Deepak and Satish would have lived in her town, they would be slaves. After that they drove to the hotel. When the girl had pushed open the door of the car, she fell to the ground. Joran wanted to help her but she shoved him away. (....)


(THE TRUTH?)

The next day, Tuesday May 31st 2005 in the afternoon, I was with Joran at the raquetclub. Joran looked worried. He asked me if I could remember what he had said the previous day about the girl. I told him yes. The girl had gone missing. The FBI had been to his house during the night but he had not been home. His father had called him to find out where he was, Joran said that he was in the Raddison Casino. He told he that after that phone call he was called on the phone by Deepak and that Deepak picked him up a few minutes later. They drove to Joran's house. The FBI and the girls family were at his house. After that Joran told me that Deepak, Satish and himself did not drop off the girl at the Holiday Inn Hotel, but that the four of them drove to the beach at the north side of the Marriot Hotel. The girl had fallen several times on the way to the beach. Joran told me that at some point she "no longer came around/no longer regained consciousness" and that they had left her on the beach. He also told me that he had left his gym/sporting shoes on the beach. After Joran had told me this, I asked him why he had left her there. He answered me that at that moment he had not known what to do. Joran told me that after this he was dropped off at home by Deepak and Satish. On the evening of June the third, I met Joran at his house. (....) He told met that during this period, he could not remember if they had bought something to eat or did anything else.

Translation Credit: Rammstein

One of the more interesting things about Freddie and his statement is that he says Joran came to him on MONDAY afternoon.  This is before Beth arrived Monday night.  Joran told Freddie all about what happened the night before.

Yet when Beth arrived, they pretended they didn't even know who Natalee was and everybody pretended they didn't even yet know that she was missing.

It was earlier that day that Joran was at school, I have always thought possibly still intoxicated, saying Natalee hit her head on a rock swimming with him, etc.

But it does indicate, opinion aside, that Joran knew full well on Monday before Beth arrived that there was a problem and Natalee missing.  Freddie said so.  Twice.

Joran tries to say in his book that Freddie was confused but it i

[Anna]

Well, that just posted before I finished but guess it is trying to tell me to stop being  so long winded!

[Anna]

More on the above:

http://www.myfoxdc.com:80/dpp/news/local/051109_spotlight_back_on_holloway_disappearance

Spotlight Back on
Holloway Disappearance
Updated: Monday, 11 May 2009, 10:36 PM EDT
Published : Monday, 11 May 2009, 10:36 PM EDT

Will Thomas 
by Will Thomas/myfoxdc

WASHINGTON, D.C. - It is a case that sparked a media sensation around the world. High school student Natalee Holloway vanished May 30, 2005 in Aruba during a graduation trip. Four years later there are no new leads in the case.

The National Museum of Crime and Punishment is helping to put the case back in the spotlight. Natalee's case is the newest addition to the Unsolved Crimes exhibit, replacing the now solved Anthrax Murders.
Beth Holloway attended the unveiling Monday afternoon in Northwest Washington to honor her daughter.

"In some way I hope Natalee's case can represent a lot of these young adults that are missing and are most likely murdered," Holloway told Fox 5.

John Walsh, the host of Fox's America's Most Wanted, stood by her side at the museum. Police determined a deceased drifter decapitated Walsh's 6-year-old son. The announcement last December, brought to close a case that has haunted the Walsh family for more than two decades.

"Finding him murdered so horribly was unbearable but at least that ended that chapter of our lives. Beth Holloway doesn't have that closure," Walsh said.

Natalee's mother and John Walsh are also working to bring attention to a missing component in the search for victims.

The Center for Missing and Exploited Children works to find children under the age of 18-years-old. There is no specialized center for missing adults like Natalee, who was 18-years-old at the time of her disappearance.

This is just huge as Beth would say!  I wonder how many visitors a year will now see and remember this.

And to replace the Axmurders will also let Aruba know how seriously we take this crime.  Unlike their attitude that it is just some kind of accident.  There is never any excuse for drugging people, ever.  That act alone should carry capital punishment IMO because think about it.  No one has that right to drug another even if it does not result in death as this did.

[Anna]

TxMom,

Do you think that article is saying the daugher of Hendrick Croes will succeed Rudy Croes?  But as Minister of Justice or just as MEP Party head?

My Papiamento is not working today.  It's Monday.  Come acoss.   

Perhaps Cageman will log on and give us the short version of what it says?

I think he is the only one who speaks  Dutch and Papiamento and Papiamentu. 

[Anna]

I mean Cageman is the only one here on this forum that speaks all three, not in the whole world.

 

Sorry, I took a nap and it's always worse than getting up in the morning.

 


And where is that Bastibro and my delft bracelet, too.

 

[billb's daughter]

FREDDY KNOWS!!

Freddy Armbatzis declares in his June 12, 2005 witness statement that Joran shared with him on May 31, 2005 that the last time he was with Natalee Holloway she "did not regain consciousness" ... she "did not regain consciousness" while in the presence of Joran, Deepak and Satish.

It should be noted that in none of Joran van der Sloot's statement did he declare what Freddy claims.  It should be noted that in none of Deepak and Satish's statements did they declare what Freddy claims.

Inquiring minds would like to know if Freddy Armbatzis could be depose to testify under oath in regards to the defamation lawsuit filed by the Kalpoe brother against Phil McGraw.
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Deepak Kalpoe - Suspect Statement - June 11, 2005

To your question whether Joran told me what he had told Freddy, I can say the following. Joran told me that he had told Freddy the truth and the story that was made up. I know that he trusts Freddy more because they have known each other for a long time. If you go and talk to Freddy, he will tell you the made up story and maybe also the truth.

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Kalpoe v. McGraw, et al.
Case Number: BC3 63401
.
Name: Freddy Alexander Arambatzis
Date: 12 June 2005 / 11:05
Pages: 5
Writer/Initiator: Dennis Jacobs & Juan Boezem
Description: witness statement of Joran van der Sloot's neighbor/friend

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Van der Sloot, Joran; Zvezdana Vukojevic (2007) (in Dutch). De zaak Natalee Holloway: mijn eigen verhaal over haar verdwijning op Aruba. Amsterdam: Sijthoff. ISBN 9789021800141. OCLC 150235828.

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Freddy Arambatzis - Witness Statement - June 12, 2005
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I am the best friend and neighbor of Joran. We got to know each other about two years ago. Joran and myself are both really into sports and that is how we became good friends.

(THE LIE?)

Monday afternoon on the 30th, Joran came to my house. He told me that the previous day, Sunday, he had befriended a girl in the Holiday Inn casino and that she had invited him to come to Carlos and Charlies that evening. He went and they danced and drank together. After that he, Deepak Satish and the girl drove off. Her friends saw that. The drove in the direction of the Lighthouse; a white car was behind them and most likely wanted to race Deepak. But that is something Deepak would never do. Joran told me that he fingered and had french kissed the girl while they were driving. He did not say that he had had sex with her. They drove to the Lighthouse, she wanted to see sharks. But Deepak only drove up to the Lighthouse because his car is very low to the ground and cannot drive up to the North side of Aruba. The girl had said to Joran that if Deepak and Satish would have lived in her town, they would be slaves. After that they drove to the hotel. When the girl had pushed open the door of the car, she fell to the ground. Joran wanted to help her but she shoved him away. (....)


(THE TRUTH?)

The next day, Tuesday May 31st 2005 in the afternoon, I was with Joran at the raquetclub. Joran looked worried. He asked me if I could remember what he had said the previous day about the girl. I told him yes. The girl had gone missing. The FBI had been to his house during the night but he had not been home. His father had called him to find out where he was, Joran said that he was in the Raddison Casino. He told he that after that phone call he was called on the phone by Deepak and that Deepak picked him up a few minutes later. They drove to Joran's house. The FBI and the girls family were at his house. After that Joran told me that Deepak, Satish and himself did not drop off the girl at the Holiday Inn Hotel, but that the four of them drove to the beach at the north side of the Marriot Hotel. The girl had fallen several times on the way to the beach. Joran told me that at some point she "no longer came around/no longer regained consciousness" and that they had left her on the beach. He also told me that he had left his gym/sporting shoes on the beach. After Joran had told me this, I asked him why he had left her there. He answered me that at that moment he had not known what to do. Joran told me that after this he was dropped off at home by Deepak and Satish. On the evening of June the third, I met Joran at his house. (....) He told met that during this period, he could not remember if they had bought something to eat or did anything else.

Translation Credit: Rammstein

One of the more interesting things about Freddie and his statement is that he says Joran came to him on MONDAY afternoon.  This is before Beth arrived Monday night.  Joran told Freddie all about what happened the night before.

Yet when Beth arrived, they pretended they didn't even know who Natalee was and everybody pretended they didn't even yet know that she was missing.

It was earlier that day that Joran was at school, I have always thought possibly still intoxicated, saying Natalee hit her head on a rock swimming with him, etc.

But it does indicate, opinion aside, that Joran knew full well on Monday before Beth arrived that there was a problem and Natalee missing.  Freddie said so.  Twice.

Joran tries to say in his book that Freddie was confused but it i

Anna.....This is so on point! This is evidence of ACTIONABLE testimony (PV) that any moral and competent prosecutor   (OM) would not only run to ground, but use every available resource, including media, to force the issue......IF THEY WANTED TO SOLVE THE CRIME!
It is so obvious that aruba has no intention of finding the truth...
So sad......no prosecution....no tourism......suck on THAT...aruba!!

[Keepthefaith]

Me personally.I have no sympathy,nor empathy,for anybody,and or anything on that cesspool of a rock they call Aruba....Sick,Twisted,Dirty little people inhabit that island and i'm sure the few that start to understand what exists either go to0 the darkside or they GET THE HELL OFF THE EVIL ISLAND.....

[billb's daughter]

Me personally.I have no sympathy,nor empathy,for anybody,and or anything on that cesspool of a rock they call Aruba....Sick,Twisted,Dirty little people inhabit that island and i'm sure the few that start to understand what exists either go to0 the darkside or they GET THE HELL OFF THE EVIL ISLAND.....

Completely agree ktf......
I HATE THEM ALL (powers that be) on one sick little island....No redeeming value whatsoever.....

[wreck]

Me personally.I have no sympathy,nor empathy,for anybody,and or anything on that cesspool of a rock they call Aruba....Sick,Twisted,Dirty little people inhabit that island and i'm sure the few that start to understand what exists either go to0 the darkside or they GET THE HELL OFF THE EVIL ISLAND.....

Completely agree ktf......
I HATE THEM ALL (powers that be) on one sick little island....No redeeming value whatsoever.....

I hate them all too.