Natalee Case Discussion #818 4/30/09 - 5/17/09

[texasmom]

 

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[texasmom]

http://www.amigoe.com/artman/publish/artikel_56444.php

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Aruba retains its own radar

May 12, 2009, 15:52 (GMT -04:00)

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The famous blue helicopter of IASA is now managed by the police. The radar is now under the police.

ORANGE CITY - Border Guard Instituto i Alarma Seguridad Aruba (IASA) will only monitor illegal immigrants, they lock up and off. The detection of undesirable aliens, is now only to the judiciary. Aruba and the Netherlands jointly to this solution, also decided that Aruba is walradar reserves.

After the Coast Guard for the Netherlands Antilles and Aruba with its own radar came, there was significant between the two countries gesteggeld on the radar of Aruba. Rudy Croes Minister of Justice wanted to do, no, although the original agreement was that the Aruban radar would be only temporary. When the radar of the Coast Guard - which in itself was a long time to wait - it finally came, the government decided to still keep its own radar. The instrument was used by IASA in detecting illegal immigrants. This dissatisfaction is not only the Netherlands, but also the police here. Also because the entities since the creation of IASA in 2006 became unclear who was at the detection of undesirable aliens.

During the tripartite agreement between the Justice Ministers of the Kingdom has decided to establish an Aruban-Dutch group to be headed by the Aruban Attorney General (PG). This one had a solution to the government to eliminate the confusion about responsibilities. This committee came up with different scenarios and the government opted for a solution that satisfied the Netherlands voted.

IASA Supervisor

This means that IASA is only concerned with monitoring and may not criminal tasks more and no criminal powers. That means that the body no more foreigners should detect, because the latter justice (still) are. The administration is now driven by the Minister of Immigration, Booshi Wever, and not by the Minister of Justice. For example, admission organization Dimas now IASA order that a check to a construction project if there are suspicions of illegal workers.

IASA, the illegals do pick up and fastening. There is now diligently for a new detention area searched, because the government no longer wants them in ordinary police or prison cells KIA locked. After the strong criticism by the European Committee CPT (to prevent torture and inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment) on the detention of illegal immigrants in Aruba. According to the CPT, the storage of illegal immigrants place a different regime than in an ordinary prison. This is because illegal immigrants have broken the law while, but often exploited by others, for example, at low wages to work in often poor conditions.

The government is now plans to a derelict building to KIA in San Nicolas to restore and the arrested illegal immigrants to exit.

According to PG Rob Pietersz is a kind of 'closed asylum center. This is happened in the new government for a more humane approach of 'undesirable aliens'. Indeed, the aliens used to quickly be dragged to court and get a criminal record. "The LTU-law is now changed and the focus has shifted to an administrative approach rather than a criminal. People who illegally are saying just put in brackets, and the approach focuses on people who abuse these illegals. "The new approach, which so IASA only a supervisory role, according to the PG that the illegals be protected. "But they are still out."

Radar

IASA now only observe, it seems no problem for the Netherlands that Aruba his radar reserves. This is assigned to the police as well as the helicopter that was used by IASA. The radar will be used in addition to the Coast Guard, which also has radars on the ABC islands. The Aruban government would like to keep its radar because, according to PG Pietersz, but the question is whether there always from Curacao on time can be alerted if suspicious movements are observed. "It is interpretation of images and the people who should give the interpretation of Aruban descent, know the waters here much better. You will see only dots and then but you have to judge whether something is suspicious. "

[texasmom]

http://www.amigoe.com/artman/publish/artikel_56443.php

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'CDA must Euro campaign ASF support'

May 12, 2009, 15:50 (GMT -04:00)

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ORANGE CITY / DEN HAAG - State Secretary of the Interior and Kingdom Relations Ank Bijleveld-Schouten (CDA) today gave answers to the questions of MP Hero Brinkman (PVV) in response to the article Amigoe 'Voice Recording enraged by EU' of 20 April jl . In that article gave AVP-Mike Eman the list to a contribution to expect from the CDA after the election of CDA-euro candidate Mito Croes.

Brinkman was the secretary to know more or rules in the Netherlands on buying votes in elections. Field ax answer to this question was within the Kingdom of the Netherlands each country has its own penal code. "In the Netherlands, bribery in elections criminalized in Article 126 of the Penal Code. A similar offense is included in Article 132 of the Aruban Criminal Code. The penal laws of the countries of the Kingdom can apply each other's territory under their general rules on extraterritorial applicability. "On the question of Brinkman on how they would assess as a Dutch political party to vote from abroad would financially reward was the Secretary of State short: "It is not allowed voters to be financially rewarded for giving their voice, nor in the Netherlands or abroad. I am not aware that this happens or that this plan exists. "

Law grants political parties

Brink Mans last question, namely whether the State can ensure "that no Aruban even a cent of Dutch political parties to get the election therefore influence 'was the reply as follows:" The inhabitants of the Netherlands Antilles and Aruba can once for the first time participate in the election of the Dutch members of the European Parliament. This means that political parties and their candidates to the elections, including campaign conduct in the Dutch Antilles and Aruba. "The Secretary pointed out that financing of election campaigns is the responsibility of political parties. "The law grants political parties, the political parties the possibility of the grant to be used for expenses associated with activities in the context of election campaigns." There must be parties, but afterwards, accountable to the Minister of Internal Affairs and Kingdom.

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[Tamikosmom]

Spotlight Back on Holloway Disappearance
Monday, 11 May 2009, 10:36 PM EDT
by Will Thomas/myfoxdc

WASHINGTON, D.C. - It is a case that sparked a media sensation around the world. High school student Natalee Holloway vanished May 30, 2005 in Aruba during a graduation trip. Four years later there are no new leads in the case.

The National Museum of Crime and Punishment is helping to put the case back in the spotlight. Natalee's case is the newest addition to the Unsolved Crimes exhibit, replacing the now solved Anthrax Murders.
 
Beth Holloway attended the unveiling Monday afternoon in Northwest Washington to honor her daughter.

"In some way I hope Natalee's case can represent a lot of these young adults that are missing and are most likely murdered," Holloway told Fox 5.

John Walsh, the host of Fox's America's Most Wanted, stood by her side at the museum. Police determined a deceased drifter decapitated Walsh's 6-year-old son. The announcement last December, brought to close a case that has haunted the Walsh family for more than two decades.

"Finding him murdered so horribly was unbearable but at least that ended that chapter of our lives. Beth Holloway doesn't have that closure," Walsh said.

Natalee's mother and John Walsh are also working to bring attention to a missing component in the search for victims.

The Center for Missing and Exploited Children works to find children under the age of 18-years-old. There is no specialized center for missing adults like Natalee, who was 18-years-old at the time of her disappearance.
 
http://www.myfoxdc.com/dpp/news/local/051109_spotlight_back_on_holloway_disappearance

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Is it too much to ask?
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NATALEE'S STEPFATHER

'Scarborough Country' for July 14
updated 8:45 a.m. PT, Fri., July. 15, 2005

JUG TWITTY, NATALEE HOLLOWAY'S STEPFATHER: Beth and I have been through this emotional roller coaster. And all we want is Natalee, whether she's alive or dead. We want to bring her back to the United States, and we'll leave and they can do whatever they want to do.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8551824/

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NATALEE'S MOTHER

'The Abrams Report' for July 1
updated 7:47 a.m. PT, Wed., July. 6, 2005

BETH HOLLOWAY TWITTY, NATALEE HOLLOWAY'S MOTHER:  We cannot forget to demand and expect to have Natalee.  Natalee deserves to return to her country.  She deserves it, and everyone knows it, Martin, every single person.  Every single person knows that.  They know it.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8485029/

[texasmom]

Two missing girls in Aruba:




autoridad is in buskeda of two child muher, one of 13 y the another of 15 anja they owing to huy for of cas.

if do you have one of they scondi are you castigable for ley saturday night two child muher of 13 y 15 anja respectivamente owing to huy for of cas in district of north y still they not owing to aparece. is deduci cu the children here owing to huy debi cu they owing to bay cu panja also. diadomingo morning parents owing to present at keep of police for haci the denuncia. informacionnan adicional is indica cu the children here will is form part of one gang, the children here is younger of edad y have to is bao supervision of his parents. if encaso police achieve they scondi in one or another caminda the personanan ey can bay close y is castigable for ley. if encaso do you know the paradero of one or they two as responsable for calling police at once at 100 or keep of police at shaba 107. come across

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fecha: 12/05/2009 | horario: 08:09

ultimo informe of the 2 children cu owing to huy, they owing to return cas tuesday morning 5or y mey cu marcanan of some sla at curpa but sano y salvo after cu the brother parent owing to go back huy in oranan of night, tuesday morning 5or y mey both younger owing to return cas. we can owing to compronde cu they owing to come cu marcanan of sla y golpi but they're sano y salvo bek at home. at name of the family they're gradici one y all cu owing to know of give one hand for so the children here is where they have to is esta at they cas together cu they family.

[texasmom]

5/12/2009 Bondia Page 17

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[texasmom]

Good to see you Cageman!   

We need your help with an article I posted last night if you have the time.

I'll bring it forward, if you haven't already seen it.

Thanks in advance! 



 

[Anna]

http://www.amigoe.com/artman/publish/artikel_56439.php

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Aha, so at last they cover the story.  This article sounds totally flat.  They are happy about this coverage for Natalee, aren't they?  They do want justice for her, right?

 

[Blue Moon]

http://www.amigoe.com/artman/publish/artikel_56439.php

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Aha, so at last they cover the story.  This article sounds totally flat.  They are happy about this coverage for Natalee, aren't they?  They do want justice for her, right?

 

I am really surprised they wrote this up and put it out for their people to read. 

[texasmom]

5/11/2009 Awe Mainta Page 2

http://awemainta.com/home/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=537:awe-tardi-lo-presenta-evelyn-wever-croes-como-sucesor-di-rudy-croes-riba-lista-di-mep&catid=11:local&Itemid=56



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as awemainta owing to anuncia for of enough time end today tardi will present evelyn wever-croes because; sucesor of rudy croes on list of mep

for of instant cu rudy croes owing to anuncia cu the not will come more on list of mep, awemainta owing to indica cu the person more capacita for remplace is his niece evelyn wever-croes. much was the nombernan of family croes cu was wordo menciona for take over the lugar of the dinastia croes in mep, but not had nothing oficial. at ultimo owing to indica cu will is dr. rafael- croes esun cu will lever list, but finalmente owing to stay dicidi cu is evelyn wever- croes, child of the practicamente owner of mep, hendrik croes is lever the list yellow. evelyn assure is a muher much capacita, study y cu cierto aprecio in comunidad thanks at his trabounan voluntario by one club social. but at self instant have to tell cu the is one specialista on tax y not finansa, dus p’e near ey if is aspirando for her cartera ey, past will have much dificultad. not have to forget also cu the exigencia cu past owing to place for her lever list is cu nilo swaen have to retira, will cual is place the peticion of nel oduber, for her ministernan actual bay one eleccion more, at danger. still can corda the discusion y situation tenso cu owing to being crea hour nilo swaen owing to dicidi of less evelyn for of tax y place ritsma hernandez at his lugar. ey also have to menciona cu evelyn do not mucho love at the departamento ey y in caso cu the can arrive at become minister will have one situation much tenso eyden. but lagando all the puntonan ey one near, can tell cu if evelyn wever- croes mantene his caracter, identidad y profesionalismo as past owing to haci till now, in some year past will can is one politico good capacita for asumi cualkier reto ministeriabel, as wait for cu esey will is the caso y not cu the bay over at the consehonan politico of his father, because ey past will continua cu the politica of venganza y of privilegia friends & family cu is take lugar in the faction mep. if evelyn take the direction ey, past will is his dead politico, as owing to come is happen cu several of the candidatonan on the list yellow, incluyendo his own uncle. awemainta is desea evelyn wever- croes much exito, forza, perseverancia, patience, curashi, boluntad y love own y for prohimo in his carera new because; politico.

This is the article we don't quite understand Cageman.  If the original text would be better for you than the Papiamentu translation, I can post that too.  Just let me know.  Thanks!   

[texasmom]

http://www.amigoe.com/artman/publish/artikel_56439.php

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Aha, so at last they cover the story.  This article sounds totally flat.  They are happy about this coverage for Natalee, aren't they?  They do want justice for her, right?

 

I am really surprised they wrote this up and put it out for their people to read. 

I was surprised to see it too! 

[Keepthefaith]

Keepthefaith, ohcanada, Edward, SuzieQ, klaasend, wreck, texasmom

 

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Keepthefaith, ohcanada, Edward, SuzieQ, klaasend, wreck, texasmom

 

 

[Keepthefaith]

Keepthefaith, ohcanada, Edward, SuzieQ, klaasend, wreck, texasmom

 

 

HotPing.. I thought you were rowing down to Venezuela in a Lil' dingy boat to find out more info on the Oil companies.....

[nonesuche]

Texasmom, thank you for continuing to gather the news stories on the case for us, I do try to read at night and try to keep up somewhat. So good to see that John Walsh was at the museum with Beth, I know he must be a comfort for her. The anthrax murders were no small event so hopefully Aruba sees that Natalee's case carries great significance as well!

[nonesuche]

Keepthefaith, ohcanada, Edward, SuzieQ, klaasend, wreck, texasmom

 

 

HotPing.. I thought you were rowing down to Venezuela in a Lil' dingy boat to find out more info on the Oil companies.....

hotping  isn't rowing, she's gliding

[texasmom]

Keepthefaith, ohcanada, Edward, SuzieQ, klaasend, wreck, texasmom

 

 

HotPing.. I thought you were rowing down to Venezuela in a Lil' dingy boat to find out more info on the Oil companies.....

hotping  isn't rowing, she's gliding

 

[Keepthefaith]

Keepthefaith, ohcanada, Edward, SuzieQ, klaasend, wreck, texasmom

 

 

HotPing.. I thought you were rowing down to Venezuela in a Lil' dingy boat to find out more info on the Oil companies.....

hotping  isn't rowing, she's gliding