Natalee Case Discussion #818 4/30/09 - 5/17/09

[texasmom]

Truth & Justice for Natalee!

Good Night KTF!  Don't go crazy alone in the cage now....

[Keepthefaith]

Truth & Justice for Natalee!

                               ARUBA..SO SIMPLE TO LET HER COME HOME..

                              YOUR ARROGANCE IS OF EPIC PROPORTIONS..

                           NO NATALEE HOLLOWAY....NO TOURISM=NO MONEY

               REMEMBER NELSON ODUBER,RUDY CROES..HISTORY WILL JUDGE YOU...

             THE ONLY THING HISTORY WILL REMEMBER IS,THAT NONE OF YOU P.O.S
       GAVE NATALEE HOLLOWAY JUSTICE,AS WELL AS MANY OTHERS ON YOUR ISLAND..

     FOR WHAT?A FATHER,SON,AND COUPLE OF FRIENDS THAT RAPED AND MURDERED AN 

          INNOCENT TOURIST...AND THAT FOLKS...IS ARUBA'S LEGACY FROM 2005 ON....               

[Keepthefaith]

                            JUSTICE FOR NATALEE HOLLOWAY

                                GOODNIGHT & GOD BLESS

                                        KEEPTHEFAITH

 

[hotping]

Have a Nice Week Monkeys....I'm headed to the Texas Hill Country ....My Mother in Law is having surgery on Thursday...She is 85 Yrs Old....So Please Say a Prayer for Her...TIA
 
 

[finngirl]

He knows more too:






Morning Folks.. My daughter just sent me something that came from the other forum NATS PLACE.. it was posted there...someone on there emailed it to the family and it has been sent to the police..she wasnt allowed to post it yet...the police said it was ok to do so and they feel its a significant peice of evidence.. I had to call my daughter after getting this..to ask her where she read it at..LOL I knew someone would ask.. but anyhow.. here it is....**************************************

A friend of mine from the forum got a chance to talk to one of Jorans friends over instant messanger. The conversation she posted was sent directly to Robin and Dave Holloway and then to the Natalee Holloway tip line. Officials are saying its for real.

aruba one happy eiland: why you want tu know
susie: cuz i need to talk to him
susie: and if ur not ganna give it to me im out
aruba one happy eiland: tel my wat company are you
working for
susie: i dont work rich girls dont need to work
aruba one happy eiland: why you want tu talk tu him
than
susie: cuz i jus do
aruba one happy eiland: you have msn messenger
susie: no
aruba one happy eiland: only on that ay talk tu him
susie: well ur no help
aruba one happy eiland: if you dont have it ay cant
help you
susie: apparently not
aruba one happy eiland: download it than
susie: doesnt it cost money
aruba one happy eiland: yep 30 dollars u week
susie: haha right i pay for aol 21 dollars a month im
not payin 120 a month for msn
aruba one happy eiland: you have tu pay it if you
want tu talk tu him
susie: o well i guess ill live without talkin to him
aruba one happy eiland: wat you want tu noow about
him
susie: nothing personally i think hes a f**kin loser
aruba one happy eiland: not loser but bitch
susie: everyones on to him about natalee
aruba one happy eiland: am not talking tu him never
agian
susie: ok
aruba one happy eiland: am soo angry with him
destroy aruba ay want tu kil him
susie: do u kno any thing about what he did with
natalee did he tell u any thing
aruba one happy eiland: one thing he told my he hit
him and hide boddy
susie: who hit who
aruba one happy eiland: yoran
susie: joran hit who
aruba one happy eiland: dont tel nobody
susie: wheres her body?
aruba one happy eiland: natalee
susie: where is she
aruba one happy eiland: he did not tel my
susie: ok
aruba one happy eiland: nobody damage mijn
aruba get away with it
susie: but only after i find out where nat is cuz her
mom needs to kno
aruba one happy eiland: you noow his mother
susie: natalees mom
aruba one happy eiland: yes
susie: yeah i talk to her
*** aruba one happy eiland's IC window is closed
susie: why u close
*** Waiting for aruba one happy eiland to connect
susie: yeah ur jus as guilty
*** Waiting for aruba one happy eiland to connect
_________________

this transcript and a few others that I know of
came from Ringo's site

hotshot was susie IIRC

in one convo, susie asked Eldwean about LvR,
if he knew him/if he'd take her to one of LvR's parties,
since she'd heard they were the best

Eldwean said yes, he knew him
and no, he wouldn't take her there
and that she shouldn't go w/ anyone else either

why? she asked ...
because of los colombianos, he said

then one day I noticed
that the colombianos convo had been deleted,
and this was after hotshot was banned,
so obviously she didn't delete it herself

I asked Ringo why, via email/PM
but he never answered ...
I was an admin/he responded to other questions
but stonewalled re Eldwean/los colombianos

this was late 2005/early 2006

blonde might remember this (?)

[DiSetti]

just for the record

im not American   im Canadian

remember those guys and girls over there in afganistan with
you guys dying and getting maimed everyday


but....but .....but
we're still on your side

OT but there are more Australians than Canadians over there.

I'm from overseas, all the way from the Netherlands.

[DiSetti]

Hello monkey's !

I think that I am the first here, because it is here now 09:45am in NL, 01:45am Denver and 03:45am in NY.

Well I just wanted to let you all know that I get my yearly refund of tax money back, in one of these days
So finally I can buy myself a nice computer then 

[DiSetti]

See this one...

A picture that I found.

I don't know if this was taken before or after that Natalee was been missing

[jen3560]

this girl knows more than she's  letting on

So really - how IS life with McKinsey?



Oh - and the other monkeys are far more polite than I am.

The only other thing I have to say to you is - sod off!

[wreck]

What happened?the posting stopped..Everyone OK..

I'm good!   

Were there any meteor's flying over Wrecks area that you know about TM..

Not that I know of.... 

   It's bedtime! Night all!

Good night Wreck!   

I think he fell asleep in the computer chair..

His loud snoring must've awoke him and he quietly exited the forum...

Sorry Wreck.I call it like i see it!

Could well be true......... but I simply leave my computer on so I can easily return to the same place in the mornibg!!! 

[jen3560]

Have a Nice Week Monkeys....I'm headed to the Texas Hill Country ....My Mother in Law is having surgery on Thursday...She is 85 Yrs Old....So Please Say a Prayer for Her...TIA
 
 

My thoughts are with your mother in law and your family hotping!

[DiSetti]

During the 1st show of Peter R de Vries about Joran & Patrick in the Landrover

While the Netherlands the horrifying confession about Natalee Holloway on TV follows is Joran van der Sloot to msn and (alias: Joran Force Barcs @ @! Chess Master always 1 step ahead). He has no idea about the outrage it has released. He chat with a DAG-journalist who wrote a book with him.

Joran Force Barcs @ @! Chess Master, always 1 step: Hi, how is he

Z: What is the truth now?

J: Ha ha, you know it no more. Come on Zvezdana. I have also opposed the criminal bullshit. This is just a lulverhaal because it is not, but that makes it in my eyes maybe worse.

Z: If you're in New Jersey?

J: I'm somewhere where nobody knows, perhaps I should have left the Netherlands.

Z: Because of threats?

J: Do not think that I can go to school.

Z: Uh ... no.

J: No, but a lot of people are angry.

Z: I know I do. You have very clear and cold that you told a girl to have died at sea and have gepleurd. What did your parents?

J: They also know that it is a lulverhaal. From what I've got my scar to everything. I was pretty stoned. I am 8 months he handled right, so you hear only what they want.
"I do not cry '

Z: Do you see how bad it is? Does your lawyer that you will be arrested?

J: No, he does not, but you never know, and yes, I know how bad it is. Yes, sorry do not feel so good.

Z: Where do you feel not good about? The whole world sees this and never believe what you say about Natalee?

J: Both.

Z: Did you cry when you saw it?

J: No, I do not cry. I am with Leon (attorney, Ed) views. Look, I knew what was coming. Was exactly what I thought. Too bad they all road cut what Patrick said.

Z: What were your parents think?

J: Yes, I had already told everything. They meegeluisterd over the phone.

I have not chosen to comply with the outside world. I thought, just a conversation between me and my dealer. I tell him what he wants.
Bleeding nose

Z: Wiet? He gave you coke?

J: No I do not think he snuift himself so much that his nose bleeds.

Z: And have you girls done at room together?

J: Yes, everyone. Very right.
Half-Aruban

Z: How do you still have to show more of what is broadcast is bullshit?

J: Yes, nothing goes right, so then it is bullshit anyway. The OM will certainly investigate it if they find anything? Then can it not be true?

Z: You talked about a fellow officer half Aruban, half-English, lives here, a little older. I thought ...

J: Haha, you re very Zvezdana. Do you really think someone that 3 years for itself? Can not, what reason would it have?
Much money

Z: I just do not understand why you now for the first time a very detailed story together 'lie' and say that you have something to do with it. What do you say to yourself now?

J: He promised me a lot of money. He did himself as a real gangster.

http://www.dag.nl/binnenland/ergens-niemand-weet-99494

[DiSetti]

During the 1st show of Peter R de Vries about Joran & Patrick in the Landrover

While the Netherlands the horrifying confession about Natalee Holloway on TV follows is Joran van der Sloot to msn and (alias: Joran Force Barcs @ @! Chess Master always 1 step ahead). He has no idea about the outrage it has released. He chat with a DAG-journalist who wrote a book with him.

Joran Force Barcs @ @! Chess Master, always 1 step: Hi, how is he

Z: What is the truth now?

J: Ha ha, you know it no more. Come on Zvezdana. I have also opposed the criminal bullshit. This is just a lulverhaal because it is not, but that makes it in my eyes maybe worse.

Z: If you're in New Jersey?

J: I'm somewhere where nobody knows, perhaps I should have left the Netherlands.

Z: Because of threats?

J: Do not think that I can go to school.

Z: Uh ... no.

J: No, but a lot of people are angry.

Z: I know I do. You have very clear and cold that you told a girl to have died at sea and have gepleurd. What did your parents?

J: They also know that it is a lulverhaal. From what I've got my scar to everything. I was pretty stoned. I am 8 months he handled right, so you hear only what they want.
"I do not cry '

Z: Do you see how bad it is? Does your lawyer that you will be arrested?

J: No, he does not, but you never know, and yes, I know how bad it is. Yes, sorry do not feel so good.

Z: Where do you feel not good about? The whole world sees this and never believe what you say about Natalee?

J: Both.

Z: Did you cry when you saw it?

J: No, I do not cry. I am with Leon (attorney, Ed) views. Look, I knew what was coming. Was exactly what I thought. Too bad they all road cut what Patrick said.

Z: What were your parents think?

J: Yes, I had already told everything. They meegeluisterd over the phone.

I have not chosen to comply with the outside world. I thought, just a conversation between me and my dealer. I tell him what he wants.
Bleeding nose

Z: Wiet? He gave you coke?

J: No I do not think he snuift himself so much that his nose bleeds.

Z: And have you girls done at room together?

J: Yes, everyone. Very right.
Half-Aruban

Z: How do you still have to show more of what is broadcast is bullshit?

J: Yes, nothing goes right, so then it is bullshit anyway. The OM will certainly investigate it if they find anything? Then can it not be true?

Z: You talked about a fellow officer half Aruban, half-English, lives here, a little older. I thought ...

J: Haha, you re very Zvezdana. Do you really think someone that 3 years for itself? Can not, what reason would it have?
Much money

Z: I just do not understand why you now for the first time a very detailed story together 'lie' and say that you have something to do with it. What do you say to yourself now?

J: He promised me a lot of money. He did himself as a real gangster.

http://www.dag.nl/binnenland/ergens-niemand-weet-99494

My translator didn't recognized ; Z: If you're in New Jersey?

New Jersey mus be Friesland (North Holland).

[klaasend]

He knows more too:






Morning Folks.. My daughter just sent me something that came from the other forum NATS PLACE.. it was posted there...someone on there emailed it to the family and it has been sent to the police..she wasnt allowed to post it yet...the police said it was ok to do so and they feel its a significant peice of evidence.. I had to call my daughter after getting this..to ask her where she read it at..LOL I knew someone would ask.. but anyhow.. here it is....**************************************

A friend of mine from the forum got a chance to talk to one of Jorans friends over instant messanger. The conversation she posted was sent directly to Robin and Dave Holloway and then to the Natalee Holloway tip line. Officials are saying its for real.

aruba one happy eiland: why you want tu know
susie: cuz i need to talk to him
susie: and if ur not ganna give it to me im out
aruba one happy eiland: tel my wat company are you
working for
susie: i dont work rich girls dont need to work
aruba one happy eiland: why you want tu talk tu him
than
susie: cuz i jus do
aruba one happy eiland: you have msn messenger
susie: no
aruba one happy eiland: only on that ay talk tu him
susie: well ur no help
aruba one happy eiland: if you dont have it ay cant
help you
susie: apparently not
aruba one happy eiland: download it than
susie: doesnt it cost money
aruba one happy eiland: yep 30 dollars u week
susie: haha right i pay for aol 21 dollars a month im
not payin 120 a month for msn
aruba one happy eiland: you have tu pay it if you
want tu talk tu him
susie: o well i guess ill live without talkin to him
aruba one happy eiland: wat you want tu noow about
him
susie: nothing personally i think hes a f**kin loser
aruba one happy eiland: not loser but bitch
susie: everyones on to him about natalee
aruba one happy eiland: am not talking tu him never
agian
susie: ok
aruba one happy eiland: am soo angry with him
destroy aruba ay want tu kil him
susie: do u kno any thing about what he did with
natalee did he tell u any thing
aruba one happy eiland: one thing he told my he hit
him and hide boddy
susie: who hit who
aruba one happy eiland: yoran
susie: joran hit who
aruba one happy eiland: dont tel nobody
susie: wheres her body?
aruba one happy eiland: natalee
susie: where is she
aruba one happy eiland: he did not tel my
susie: ok
aruba one happy eiland: nobody damage mijn
aruba get away with it
susie: but only after i find out where nat is cuz her
mom needs to kno
aruba one happy eiland: you noow his mother
susie: natalees mom
aruba one happy eiland: yes
susie: yeah i talk to her
*** aruba one happy eiland's IC window is closed
susie: why u close
*** Waiting for aruba one happy eiland to connect
susie: yeah ur jus as guilty
*** Waiting for aruba one happy eiland to connect
_________________

this transcript and a few others that I know of
came from Ringo's site

hotshot was susie IIRC

in one convo, susie asked Eldwean about LvR,
if he knew him/if he'd take her to one of LvR's parties,
since she'd heard they were the best

Eldwean said yes, he knew him
and no, he wouldn't take her there
and that she shouldn't go w/ anyone else either

why? she asked ...
because of los colombianos, he said

then one day I noticed
that the colombianos convo had been deleted,
and this was after hotshot was banned,
so obviously she didn't delete it herself

I asked Ringo why, via email/PM
but he never answered ...
I was an admin/he responded to other questions
but stonewalled re Eldwean/los colombianos

this was late 2005/early 2006

blonde might remember this (?)

No Fingirl - Hotshot was not Suzie, Suzie was Angiex911's daughter. 

Hotshot did meet with Eldwean while in Aruba though and I did crop her out of that photo above and did get that comment above from Hotshot's myspace site.

It came from the original Nataleeholloway.net site which was NOT a Ringo site (I don't believe)  It was posted on SM by Angiex911 before September 2005.

http://web.archive.org/web/20050625014733/http://www.nataleeholloway.net/

[klaasend]

By the way DiSetti - Johan seems to have a "thing" for you

http://goldmonkey.org/index.php?topic=887.360

[DiSetti]

By the way DiSetti - Johan seems to have a "thing" for you

http://goldmonkey.org/index.php?topic=887.360

Thank you to let me know that he gives me the thumbs up.
should/can I take that as a compliment 

[klaasend]

By the way DiSetti - Johan seems to have a "thing" for you

http://goldmonkey.org/index.php?topic=887.360

Thank you to let me know that he gives me the thumbs up.
should/can I take that as a compliment 

   Seems Johan is trying to stalk you around the internet too. 

[DiSetti]

By the way DiSetti - Johan seems to have a "thing" for you

http://goldmonkey.org/index.php?topic=887.360

Thank you to let me know that he gives me the thumbs up.
should/can I take that as a compliment 

   Seems Johan is trying to stalk you around the internet too. 

well it was a statement back then.... well there is not that much from me then Johan55 him self on the internet

Is there a pic of Joran when he was on a party with his friends (Gottenbos etc)?

[klaasend]

DiSetti - what picture are you looking for?  Yes there are old photos of Joran and the Gottenbos.

If you haven't already seen it, there are alot of good photos on this flickr.  The Joranvandersloot Blog was not created by Joran but by someone that didn't like Joran.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/joranvandersloot/

[DiSetti]

A pic with Jorans and his best friends. Why don't we hear anything about them anymore?

Havanas Fullmoon