Natalee Case Discussion #818 4/30/09 - 5/17/09

[Artcolley]

Did he dupe Robin?

[Tamikosmom]

Well, I have to wonder what the heck would possess Mark Purcell (a double agent) to stab Dave in the back.
What would motivate him to steer everyone away from the pond?

You don't suppose Mark Purcell is Daury? or his typhus infected kid?

Mark has a boat. I know because I emailed Dave the lats and longs for Andicora and Dave gave that info to Mark to check out and Mark couldn't find the gosh darn place.

I've have not thought those two ridiculously incompetent Gottenbos kids could have pulled this off since like the one year mark.

Rob

Mark Purcell was NEVER Dave and Robin Holloway's friend and ... Dave and Robin were aware from the getgo of their relationship with him.  Natalee's stepmother and father were informed of Purcell dispicable internet posts discrediting Natalee, Dave, Beth, Jug and the MB Students.

Private Eye said it be.  The principle in regards to working with the enemy to acquire a positive outcome in a mission for answers ...

 

It does not work.  It only puts the enemy at the advantage.

Janet

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PRIVATE EYE - NATALEE HOLLOWAY'S UNCLE

private eye
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #737 2/29 -
« Reply #559 on: March 01, 2008, 04:08:07 PM »

I hope that the Persistence has not done all of this work and gone to all of this expense only to have gotten itself into an arrangement whereby Aruban divers are the ones who actually verify the targets and are the first ones to physically retrieve evidence, with no American divers physically with them. If so, all I can say is I just can't believe this has happened. But surely I am wrong.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2662.msg358435#msg358435


private eye
Discussion #742 3/10 -
« Reply #686 on: March 13, 2008, 06:38:07 PM »

... But sharing information with people who work for people who are directly orchestrating the cover up, Rudy, or the Dutch, is the most irresponsible investigating I can imagine. What kills this investigation is people having to come into it, wanting to apply basic investigatory protocols into place, and then having those channels sabotage the new evidence that the new players discover. Of course, as is happened everytime in this case, the new people eventually come to a point where the manipulation of the evidence is undeniable, but by then the fruits of their work are gone, and there is simply another member of the believers of the cover up group. What I pray that Kyle and the crew of the Persistence will determine, is that regardless of how hard working the man that they are working with appears to work, his work belongs to Rudy, and Rudy belongs to the local dutch.

We are not hysterical, ignorant, paranoid people. We have seen the cover up in action, in broad daylight, with impunity, and if you disregard our warnings, you will become the next chump in a series of chumps, no matter how sophisticated your equipment, the level of your educational achievement, or the extent of your job skills and work history.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2689.msg364750#msg364750


private eye (Beth Holloway's Brother)
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #742 3/10 -
« Reply #690 on: March 13, 2008, 06:56:18 PM »

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2689.msg364756#msg364756

i don't believe that Kyle or anyone else is allowed to review the case documents, according to the policy of the prosecutors office. I thought the beauty of the Persistence is that they were to do a true grid seach mission which depends not on psychics or even tips from the authorities, and as such their work would be independent of the investigation. They were there simply to attempt to search a predefined area for Natalee's remains. So I am not sure why they have been lured into defending the work of the Aruban authorities or a discussion of the validity of the investigation as they are not knowledgeable as to the investigation, other than what they have been told by these Arubans. There are an awful lot of highly educated people who have been chumped by people of far less formal education. A well trained police force is not thwarted by a grieving mother and the media.

And Kyle, I by no means am being disrespectful, I think you are brilliant, sincerely. But I don't think your education or work experience has prepared you for a cover up by these types of people. And I think you may be severely underestimating the education, experience, and wisdom of the monkeys and other coverup believers. Don't let them make a fool of you. We need you.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2689.msg364756#msg364756


private eye
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #746 4/4
« Reply #499 on: April 09, 2008, 12:39:50 AM »

If I understood Kyle correctly, and that would be that the Arubans retrieved and possessed all finds, not sharing anything with the crew, then that effort was a waste of time and effort. The only thing it could have accomplished was to locate additional evidence for the Arubans to destroy. I am not sure if that was the protocol out of Aruba's waters though. The effort was superb, but the game was fixed.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2769.msg372245;topicseen#msg372245

private eye
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #708 12/28
« Reply #897 on: December 30, 2007, 06:30:32 PM » 

They will have dateline onboard and I understand that they were involved in the Titantic so I assume they have the expertise to preserve any remains or artifacts and have a protocol. They can always find and locate it, call for assistance and then retrieve it. But that is my fear that they imediately turn it over to Aruba where her remains can become that of a large crab:)

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2481.880


 

[Rob]

Well, I have to wonder what the heck would possess Mark Purcell (a double agent) to stab Dave in the back.

What would motivate him to steer everyone away from the pond?

You don't suppose Mark Purcell is Daury? or his typhus infected kid?

Mark has a boat. I know because I emailed Dave the lats and longs for Andicora and Dave gave that info to Mark to check out and Mark couldn't find the gosh darn place.

I've have not thought those two ridiculously incompetent Gottenbos kids could have pulled this off since like the one year mark.

$$$$$

mmhmm 

[Artcolley]

I guess what I am asking is who knew about him (if anyone) and when did they know it?
Who was complicit and why?
How deep does this go?

[Keepthefaith]

I guess what I am asking is who knew about him (if anyone) and when did they know it?
Who was complicit and why?
How deep does this go?

You got some hip-waders Art???The Sh_t is getting deep....

[Artcolley]

I guess what I am asking is who knew about him (if anyone) and when did they know it?
Who was complicit and why?
How deep does this go?

You got some hip-waders Art???The Sh_t is getting deep....

Yep, it certainly is. I have a lot of questions spinning around right now about the "players" in this fiasco.
I have been following the posts about Silvetti, Kyle , etc, but I am now In a KISS mode .
Didn't Robin and others feel this Purcell guy was oh, so helpful?
Not like they were not warned.
Why continue on with him? Did he have the ability to dupe all these people?
We saw through him from the get-go.
Why didn't the others involved with him?

[Rob]

Rob

Mark Purcell was NEVER Dave and Robin Holloway's friend and ... Dave and Robin were aware from the getgo of their relationship with him.  Natalee's stepmother and father were informed of Purcell dispicable internet posts discrediting Natalee, Dave, Beth, Jug and the MB Students.

Private Eye said it be.  The principle in regards to working with the enemy to acquire a positive outcome in a mission for answers ...

 

It does not work.  It only puts the enemy at the advantage.

Janet

yes ma'am.. I do realize that - thank you 

[Anna]

HOTSHOT HAS A FRIEND THAT WORKS AT THE MARRIOTT!

HOTSHOT IS A VOCAL SUPPORTER OF WLC

HOTSHOT EMAILED DAVE

HOTSHOT GOT CAPS TO SILVETTI

HOTSHOT IS AN INSTRUMENTAL DIABOLICAL CONVEYING DIRTBAG

Is there anyone involved in this case she is not in contact with? It's logical to think her friend is Purcell, and she knew this was a scam from day one. Whatta POS
 

Yes. She inserted herself with the Aruban's  rather then give the information to the FBI.

And never forget who her BFF is that kept sending her here to attack me when I had hardly even spoken to this person.

Also their big concern about who might be writing a book and her trying to team up with the Stephanie Goode/Larry Garrison dynamic duo.

[Tamikosmom]

ROBIN HOLLOWAY

Robin Holloway
BFN

I have made a lot of good friends here at BFN and other sites. I appreciate the efforts everyone has gone to in trying to help us out. Thank you to everyone. I have had the pleasure of talking and communicating with several on this board and would like to thank them and everyone, including especially Debbie, and thanks to Rammstein, Reality, MIP6 and gagirl for their help also.  I know everyone won't agree on everything, but we need to keep focus on the real issue, Natalee.
 
August 21, 2006, 03:07:49 PM »


Robin Holloway
BFN

MIP6 is someone who is trying to help us find Natalee! And we are grateful to him for all that he has done for us! I am sorry for all the bashing he and his farmily have had to endure and I am so glad he is still helping us after all they have been through.
 
« Reply #17 on: Today at 01:06:00 PM »


Robin Holloway
BFN

MIP6 is doing everything he can to help us find her and hope his initial post here will resolve some of the rumors. We appreciate him so much and we want to thank Reality for putting Dave and I personally in contact with him. They both, like we all do, want so much for Natalee to be found!
 
November 17, 2006, 09:34:35 PM »

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MARK PURCELL

MIP6
New Member
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 16

I figure with my next post I should get the boot, haven’t decided which one to use yet the Beth lies or denouncing the Sainthood of Natalee. I have way too much fun watching them all freak out.

http://www.rjames.com/forums/showthread.php?p=24191#post24191


Mark Purcell
Refugees Unlimited

Doc Holladay PostPosted: Sat Jun 24, 2006 7:43 am
Are the pages from Dave’s work of fiction soft when you wipe with them?

Doc Holladay PostPosted: Sat Jun 24, 2006 7:43 am
Girls disappearing in Aruba would be on every front page newspaper in the free world “IF” it had ever occurred prior to or after Natalee split to get away from her dysfunctional, cold & heartless, bar rag (thanks Wang) banshee of a mother.

Doc Holladay PostPosted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 2:09 pm
We will be partying tonight at Kokoa Bar at the De Palm pier it will be there last night at that location so we are going to be giving them a big send off for there last night.  If Natalee shows up for the party I'll be sure to find the closest internet connection and let everyone know.

Doc Holladay PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2006 2:06 pm
For me one of the main things I would like to see other than Natalee coming out of hiding is for Jug & Beth to make a public apology to the following during primetime, hell lets make it during the Super Bowl and they pay for the air time: Julia Renfro for the assault that Jug performed against her. Joran for all the lies that have been told by B&J against / about him. The K brothers for the same as Joran. The families of J2K for all the hate that the B&J lies have brought to there door steps. To all the great citizens of Aruba and all Dutch territories for Beth’s crap of asking for a travel boycott. To the American people for them being such lying pieces of crap almost nightly for 10 months. And at the end of the world wide broadcast of the apologies I would like to see the FBI than slap the cuffs on both of them and lead them away as the FBI spokesperson comes on the air and state that the public at large has been bilked for XXX number of millions of dollars by this pair.

Doc Holladay PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2006 2:06 pm
For me one of the main things I would like to see other than Natalee coming out of hiding is for Jug & Beth to make a public apology to the following during primetime, hell lets make it during the Super Bowl and they pay for the air time: Julia Renfro for the assault that Jug performed against her. Joran for all the lies that have been told by B&J against / about him. The K brothers for the same as Joran. The families of J2K for all the hate that the B&J lies have brought to there door steps. To all the great citizens of Aruba and all Dutch territories for Beth’s crap of asking for a travel boycott. To the American people for them being such lying pieces of crap almost nightly for 10 months. And at the end of the world wide broadcast of the apologies I would like to see the FBI than slap the cuffs on both of them and lead them away as the FBI spokesperson comes on the air and state that the public at large has been bilked for XXX number of millions of dollars by this pair.

Doc Holladay PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 3:08 pm
Doesn’t surprise me any that Debbie would do that. The title of this thread is “Debbie’s Integrity” should read “Debbie’s total lack of Morals & Integrity”. She is the head cheerleader for all things Twitty / Holloway. Someone mentioned to me that Debbie was just being “used” by the family to move the family agenda forward, I called Bullshit, Debbie knows exactly what she is doing. This is a blatant attempt to smear Julia because the Twitholes fear her knowledge of what they did here in Aruba. Just like all others who where close to the family in the beginning, they now have put in play a planned focused effort to discredit Julia. This family of the runaway Natalee are the lowest forms of life I have ever had the displeasure of experiencing in my life time. I can’t wait for the day when the house of cards that the Twitholes have built on there ongoing lies and deception comes falling down around there shoulders. I also can not wait until the day that Julia tells all, even though she is a class act, I think she will someday put it all out there.


Lots more quotes at:

Topic: MIP6 and REALITY - are they part of the disinformation team?
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=1896.0

[Anna]

I think AHATA/ATA is the organization with the funding to do these misdirections because they allocate five million here, ten million there for TOURISM.

Who knows how that is actually spent!

[Artcolley]

Thank You, Janet.

This is my point.

I cannot believe some of these people were that stupid to not see what he was doing when it was right in front of them.  Hard to say , but I am leaning toward "They Knew"  and were complicit to whatever degree and for whatever reason.

Its hard to swallow, but unless these people are all simpletons, I can't see any other explanation. And I do NOT think for a minute that they are simpletons.

IMO only

[klaasend]

NEW FRONT PAGE POST:

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2009/05/01/aruba-tourism-down-again-due-to-global-economy-and-why-does-aruba-check-tourists-and-not-underage-teens/

Aruba Tourism Down Again Due to Global Economy and Why Does Aruba Check Tourists and Not Underage Teens?

[Anna]

Art,

You are asking one of the big mysteries in all of this.  I don't think anyone knows or understands why they would prefer the company and to deal with those particular individuals.

 

[Artcolley]

Art,

You are asking one of the big mysteries in all of this.  I don't think anyone knows or understands why they would prefer the company and to deal with those particular individuals.

 

It sure is puzzling, isn't it?
Those of you that have been researching all this and posting about it here at ScaredMonkeys deserve a lot of credit.  ScaredMonkeys NEVER took their eye off the ball and NEVER got sucked in by the diversions.
Kudos to all of you.
I so admire all of you, job well done!

[Artcolley]

And to Kermit..what can I say about Kermit!
Wonderful job, Kermit!

Yes, I stand with the Frog. 

[Keepthefaith]

Bastibro...Cat got your tongue?

BUMP....................................

[Rob]

Art,

You are asking one of the big mysteries in all of this.  I don't think anyone knows or understands why they would prefer the company and to deal with those particular individuals.

 

it was the catalyst that ended up creating the Freebirds so there was a benefit.

[Artcolley]

Art,

You are asking one of the big mysteries in all of this.  I don't think anyone knows or understands why they would prefer the company and to deal with those particular individuals.

 

it was the catalyst that ended up creating the Freebirds so there was a benefit.

True, that.   

[Anna]

WLC posted much the same thing claiming that Beth lied.

And yet his minions even here did not skip a beat in following him.
I suppose it could be that same kind of mentality?

[Anna]

And when some of us protested, "Shut Up!" they explained.