Natalee Case Discussion #818 4/30/09 - 5/17/09

[Blue Moon]

Posted by Bastibro at BFN. 

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Did the scumbag make enough money off of Natalee again and then high-tailed it back to Thailand?  When will they stop making money off this child?  Makes me sick to my stomach.

[Nut44x4]

thanks for the reply antunym -

I have never been comfortable with that cretins role in any of this and have wondered exactly why he's been involved but I guess today's developments clarify what is really taking place.

I've been wondering whether Mark Purcell or his son disposed of Natalee for years and I'm sure others have too.

I certainly could fathom that

[oldiebutgoodie]

With the way this is going Kermit we may have to get a couple of canoes for the trip down the Cahulawassee River...Remake of Deliverance...Kermit reprising the starring role played by Burt Reynolds!BillB,Wreck,Rob,and myself will have to fight over the other roles

Wasn't it Ned Baetty that had to squel like a pig.

I know this is totally unfair to the fine actor, Mr. Ned Beatty, but every time I see him in any role or in any other venue, "that" scene is in my mind. I can't help it. It's like every time I see Bill Clinton, I get the whole cigar-blue dress thing going in my mind. Can't help that, either.

[Anna]

Just out of curiosity, I counted back the last 24 hours but stopped when I got to 27 posters.

So I guess rumors that there are only 4 or 5 of us left have been greatly exaggerated.

[klaasend]

Just out of curiosity, I counted back the last 24 hours but stopped when I got to 27 posters.

So I guess rumors that there are only 4 or 5 of us left have been greatly exaggerated.

Oh Anna, don't be silly.  It's really only 4 or 5 of us with different nicknames.   

[Buckeye]

Lifesong

I'm not sure when Rene van Nie received the letter from Theresa Croes, whatever.  He has a very difficult to read, site.  I would read little by little.  Few things/pages were dated.  I found the letter in Dec. of 2007...I think, but at the time, I didn't regularly read there.  Sorry.

[Anna]

Just out of curiosity, I counted back the last 24 hours but stopped when I got to 27 posters.

So I guess rumors that there are only 4 or 5 of us left have been greatly exaggerated.

Oh Anna, don't be silly.  It's really only 4 or 5 of us with different nicknames.  

 

[Rob]

Just out of curiosity, I counted back the last 24 hours but stopped when I got to 27 posters.

So I guess rumors that there are only 4 or 5 of us left have been greatly exaggerated.

Oh Anna, don't be silly.  It's really only 4 or 5 of us with different nicknames.   

you know I am posting from 6 different locations

[Buckeye]

Just out of curiosity, I counted back the last 24 hours but stopped when I got to 27 posters.

So I guess rumors that there are only 4 or 5 of us left have been greatly exaggerated.

Let something newsy happen.  There is still a silent, but deadly dedicated group, that arrives.  There is no replacement for history.

[MuffyBee]

Just out of curiosity, I counted back the last 24 hours but stopped when I got to 27 posters.

So I guess rumors that there are only 4 or 5 of us left have been greatly exaggerated.

I just looked at an email from Tom at Scared Monkeys, dated 7/11/05 approving my membership here.  I had been reading here before that date.  It's hard to believe Natalee still hasn't been brought home.

[oldiebutgoodie]

Just out of curiosity, I counted back the last 24 hours but stopped when I got to 27 posters.

So I guess rumors that there are only 4 or 5 of us left have been greatly exaggerated.

On the chance that a bunch of internet stalking psychos happen by here, do we count them just once or do ALL of their personalities count as separate visits?

[Keepthefaith]

All the banned Monkey's and CapsLock followers believe that there is one poster Kermit with 14 personalities.....

Keepthefaith, Rooscrew, Blue Moon, Magnolia, Rob, 2NJSons_Mom, Edward, Tamikosmom, oldiebutgoodie, Helen Back, MuffyBee, Lifesong, Buckeye, Anna


Ya gotta love it.......

[Lifesong]

Lifesong

I'm not sure when Rene van Nie received the letter from Theresa Croes, whatever.  He has a very difficult to read, site.  I would read little by little.  Few things/pages were dated.  I found the letter in Dec. of 2007...I think, but at the time, I didn't regularly read there.  Sorry.

Thank you, Buckeye!

[Keepthefaith]

All the banned Monkey's and CapsLock followers believe that there is one poster Kermit with 14 personalities.....

Keepthefaith, Rooscrew, Blue Moon, Magnolia, Rob, 2NJSons_Mom, Edward, Tamikosmom, oldiebutgoodie, Helen Back, MuffyBee, Lifesong, Buckeye, Anna


Ya gotta love it.......

OK..Will the REAL KERMIT stand up.....Hi i'm keepthefaith..I'm the real Kermit the frog!

[Buckeye]

Lifesong

I'm not sure when Rene van Nie received the letter from Theresa Croes, whatever.  He has a very difficult to read, site.  I would read little by little.  Few things/pages were dated.  I found the letter in Dec. of 2007...I think, but at the time, I didn't regularly read there.  Sorry.

Thank you, Buckeye!

 

[Buckeye]

I don't think Joran/Jaap means anything...but I do want to point out that Carpe (and Mrs. Red) always thought Natalee was shot.  Wasn't there a post about her being on a boat and holding up her hands trying to block a shot??....maybe Joran has been reading old theories so he has more material...

[Tamikosmom]

MumInOhio did not required the exposure in Kyle Kingman's own word of the John Silvetti deception to come to the conclusion that CAPS was placed on the forum as a distaction from the truth.

At the getgo ... Mum made a sincere attempt to figure out what CAPS was all about but ... his (their) changing theories and ... his (their) lack of response to questions she presented to him on the forum ... his (their) flawed research ...  made her a doubter.

In May, 2008 ...  Mum made the decision to get off the CAPS bandwagon and ... then at some period of time throughout the summer ... hopped right back on.

Why?  I asked Mum.  I sincerely wanted to comprehend what she learned that changed her mind but ... she refused to reveal to me why she backtracked.

 

Janet

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MUMINOHIO - MAY, 2008


MumInOhio
Re: SHANGO/SIMIAN - who are they and what did they know? #3
« Reply #1412 on: May 06, 2008, 01:59:31 PM »

SS...I have read that as well...I have also read where he said it was other apartments, Dutch owned and not the Matty apartments. I am not going to go back to the first thread and find Cap's posts as I questioned him more than a couple of times as to why he changed his mind and he never answered!

He also didn't respond as to why he told me no to the Ind/Lion's Den in the first thread.

All that being said...he hasn't backed up his posts...just because Caps said it, doesn't make it so!

 I am sorry I don't mean to upset you, but you can post Caps posts forever and I will just keep telling you what he said previously.

I still want to know why he changed from the other apartments to the Matty and he will not answer!!!!!

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2787.msg379364#msg379364


MumInOhio
Re: SHANGO/SIMIAN - who are they and what did they know? #3
« Reply #1424 on: May 06, 2008, 02:41:59 PM »

SS…let me ask you one question…

If I post the Freddy Zedan owns the Indo/Lion’s Den are you going to just take my word for it?

 Caps posts that the Kalpoes - the father or the stepfather, he never did answer which one, according to a girl there, now own it!

You can certainly take what Caps says without questions, but I will not. So please do not repost Caps post to me....Show me the proof!

 I have read everyone of Cap’s post at least three times…each day I type out an index…you would be very surprised what you see on the third read.

All I am trying to say is what you are posting from Caps is not what he said in January!

I am 99% sure as to why he switched to the Indo apartments…the answer is in one of your last few posts…and I will leave it at that!

And yes Lala’s…I am extremely frustrated…seems we have involved just about everyone on Aruba…new names are dropped every week.…I never see Joran’s name in this thread anymore!!!!!

And everytime Caps appears we have more questions!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

COLUMBO has a word for that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2787.msg379383#msg379383


MumInOhio
Re: SHANGO/SIMIAN - who are they and what did they know? #3
« Reply #1440 on: May 06, 2008, 06:42:17 PM »

Guess we will have to agree to disagree. I don't have to give him the benefit of the doubt just because he's Caps

All I see is a whole lot of new names and misinformation and very few facts...Giovanni, Deutekom, Bulo, Freddy that doesn't exist, odd-bods living at the kalpoes address, list of names that don't match the phone book...
 
Yes, something is going on at that pond, and we are still dealing with Aruba. I'm in total agreement with Lala's on this one, nothing will come of the pond.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2787.msg379502#msg379502


MumInOhio
Re: SHANGO/SIMIAN - who are they and what did they know? #3
« Reply #1450 on: May 06, 2008, 07:32:02 PM »

SS...A simple question as to if Deutekom was a Judge should have been answered 150 pages ago....so should the reason for him going back to the Indo/Lion's Den after he told me no to there. these are simple questions and both merit an answer!

I can't buy Cap's Dirty Hand Deutekom, because how he got to him was flawed. If he is not a Judge he wouldn't have been on that list. It is as simple as that!

There are more questions now than when Caps first started posting!

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2787.msg379518#msg379518


MumInOhio
Re: SHANGO/SIMIAN - who are they and what did they know? #3
« Reply #1456 on: May 06, 2008, 11:11:21 PM »

Well I guess we are all frustrated today!

I attempted to explain to Caps at least 3 times the Judges list, and as one who tries to answer other poster’s questions, and acknowledge their posts I expected an answer on at least one of those occasions! If you have read my posts you would know that I have acknowledged that Deutekom may be a ‘Dirty Hand’ , just questioning the way he got there.

You can check my posts for this morning and see that I try to ‘share’ what I know! Have a look and see if my answer to another poster was even acknowledged!

I guess in your opinion it is OK for Caps to fire of all these questions at us, but he is not obligated to answer ours. Most of my questions to him have been about posts he has made and names like Bulo’s that we have never heard of. I have asked very few about things I am researching.

I have not asked any more from Caps than I would have asked from any other poster…back up your posts! BS on putting him in any sort of position! Not to the questions I have asked anyways.

Yes there are other theories on this thread, and I for one am sick and tired of having only one jammed down my throat.

I have read Caps posts many times and it is up to me if I go along with everything or anything he says.  Maybe it might help some if you let Caps know that it is creating problems by him dropping names with no other info….it would help a lot and certainly save some of us a lot of time….

JMHO

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2787.msg379582#msg379582


MumInOhio
Re: SHANGO/SIMIAN - who are they and what did they know? #3
« Reply #1459 on: May 06, 2008, 11:33:41 PM »

... as you said this is a discussion forum and I have reason to question things in Caps posts! Most times when I have done so I do not receive an answer or if I do it is the post of Caps I am referring to posted back to me. Sorry … to me that is not discussion.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2787.msg379591#msg379591


MumInOhio
Re: SHANGO/SIMIAN - who are they and what did they know? #3
« Reply #1467 on: May 07, 2008, 08:06:50 AM »

SS...Caps started posting in the NAH thread around mid-January. Klaas explained at the time that he had been posting on the front page previously. After 4 or 5 days Caps started posting in the Shango thread. This would have been way back in the first thread.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2787.msg379694#msg379694


MumInOhio
Re: SHANGO/SIMIAN - who are they and what did they know? #3
« Reply #1468 on: May 07, 2008, 09:28:28 AM »

SS… You are right. I think Caps has information that has nothing to do with Shango as well. Caps does know the corruption and the ‘dark’ side of Aruba. He knows some of the players, probably a lot.

When Caps first started posting in the forum he knew very little about the case, or so it appears from his early posts. He asked us about the family, the friends, the private plane and the pimps. He asked about the suspects and about the people such as Julia and others that continually misinformed us. He needed our help and knowledge with these pieces of the puzzle. There is nothing wrong with that, I personally have spent a lot of time and posts sharing any information I had or could find.

A lot of time it seems to me that Caps has a piece that he feels fits into a Shango/Simian/Merian post, and just makes it fit. He has the player, the corrupt official, so that is the answer to that part of the riddle.

An example of this would be ‘the yellowhammer’. We started with a yellow hummer way back in the first thread, and most disagreed back then. When it was revisited recently and many posted that they thought it was the bird, Caps said OK, we’ll go with the bird, we’ll refine and correct any errors in his interpretations. The next day, Caps posts that he doesn’t think it is the bird. Our interpretation of ‘the yellowhammer’ doesn’t fit into Cap’s deciphering of the riddle.

I find this very frustrating. To me it is not that difficult.

Thanks everyone for the input on Bulo yesterday. Pita sorry for the confusion I may have caused on the Benz site. Somehow I confused myself…Vms…sounds like a good idea…maybe clear up some loose ends like Giovanni and Bulo…

 I think I need to go and sit in the grandstand with Lala’s and the other grannies for a day or two and go back to my own research.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2787.msg379700#msg379700


MumInOhio
Re: SHANGO/SIMIAN - who are they and what did they know? #3
« Reply #1493 on: May 08, 2008, 09:33:46 AM »

This is a previous discussion about Ben VocKing. Below are 2 of Caps older posts regarding VocKing. So in February and March Caps knew who VocKing was, but not on April 25th.

Somewhere back around page 40 Caps posted a key in which he includes a pic of VocKing. You will notice that Caps refers to a picture of Voking in his response above.

Around pages 45 and 46 there is much discussion about the photo of VocKing and which is the correct one. The photo of VocKing that Caps included in his key and showed to the man who knew him very well is not of the person we determined to be VocKing.

This is why I ask questions…

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http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2787.msg379920#msg379920


MumInOhio
Re: SHANGO/SIMIAN - who are they and what did they know? #3
« Reply #1494 on: May 08, 2008, 09:41:12 AM »

These posts of Caps have been etched in mind since March. Another reason I ask questions.

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http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2787.msg379922#msg379922


MumInOhio
Re: SHANGO/SIMIAN - who are they and what did they know? #3
« Reply #1495 on: May 08, 2008, 10:12:11 AM »

Here is Cap's picture of Vocking.

Hotping...Thanks for the prayer. After the posts from last night, for the sake of harmony I have decided to refrain from posting in this thread any more.

Enjoy the Tango!

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2787.msg379926#msg379926


MumInOhio
Re: SHANGO/SIMIAN - who are they and what did they know? #3
« Reply #1500 on: May 08, 2008, 11:55:52 AM »

Vms…I have suspected from very early on from Cap’s posts who Caps really is. I did not come to this conclusion from any mailing list from ‘our friend in Aruba’. Posts over the last 24 hours have confirmed my suspicions. Not everyone is whom they appear to be…I need to walk away!

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2787.msg379938#msg379938


MumInOhio
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #750 5/2 -
« Reply #936 on: May 08, 2008, 08:30:49 PM »

SS…since you bought this over from the Shango thread….there is no group attack on Caps. I have asked him to answer questions about his posts. He has not done so, on most occasions IMO. I said this morning that I would walk away. I have.

Many of my questions regarding Caps surround Ben Vocking. I posted on that this morning. Please go back and read from page 39 to page 46 of the thread. Open the links. Read Caps response very carefully and then read what I posted this morning.

I am not going to respond any further on the subject.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2819.msg380072#msg380072


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Dialogue - MumInOhio and Tamikosmom:

MumInOhio
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #789 1/1/09 -
« Reply #450 on: January 02, 2009, 10:35:03 PM »

Mum ... in May, 2008 you had come to a conclusion and ... were not going to uphold CAPS.  You backed up ;your reasoning perfectly and ... I agreed.  Your reasoning was what I had claimed from the getgo ... two months prior.  However ... you eventually  backtracked.

Mum ... it is so important to me.  I want to know why?

Sincerely, Janet

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4340.msg609481#msg609481



MumInOhio
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #789 1/1/09 -
« Reply #454 on: January 02, 2009, 11:06:23 PM »

Janet...You are like a pitbull...LOL

Nobody knows my position on this at this time...I am not ready to elaborate any more...I am Sorry.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4340.msg609545;topicseen#msg609545

[Keepthefaith]

Heyyy Rob!....Don't lump me together with HotShot.....

[Tamikosmom]

All the banned Monkey's and CapsLock followers believe that there is one poster Kermit with 14 personalities.....

Keepthefaith, Rooscrew, Blue Moon, Magnolia, Rob, 2NJSons_Mom, Edward, Tamikosmom, oldiebutgoodie, Helen Back, MuffyBee, Lifesong, Buckeye, Anna


Ya gotta love it.......

OK..Will the REAL KERMIT stand up.....Hi i'm keepthefaith..I'm the real Kermit the frog!

I am the mother of Joran van der Sloot.

From that May 31, 2005  call from my husband Paul to me while visiting family in the Netherlands ... I have been privy to the truth regarding ALL the happenings encompassing the Natalee Holloway case ... ALL the happenings encompassing the coverup in the investigation.  I am my husband's confident.

My whole life it is crumbling around me.  It is sooo overwhelming.  That is the reason for the past four years ... I have made it my mission to anonymously reveal all for the sake of Natalee Holloway's family and ... for the sake of my relationships with my son and my husband ... relationships that cannot survive in the long run built with lies as a foundation.  Also ... the truth must be revealed for the sake of my son's future well being.  He has failed to learn ... he was not taught ... that the established legal and moral boundaries apply to him and ... that lessons unlearned will put future "Natalees" at risk.

Please pray that God will give me the strength to do what is right.

Anita van der Sloot.

[Keepthefaith]

All the banned Monkey's and CapsLock followers believe that there is one poster Kermit with 14 personalities.....

Keepthefaith, Rooscrew, Blue Moon, Magnolia, Rob, 2NJSons_Mom, Edward, Tamikosmom, oldiebutgoodie, Helen Back, MuffyBee, Lifesong, Buckeye, Anna


Ya gotta love it.......

OK..Will the REAL KERMIT stand up.....Hi i'm keepthefaith..I'm the real Kermit the frog!

I am the mother of Joran van der Sloot.

From that May 31, 2005  call from my husband Paul to me while visiting family in the Netherlands ... I have been privy to the truth regarding ALL the happenings encompassing the Natalee Holloway case ... ALL the happenings encompassing the coverup in the investigation.  I am my husband's confident.

My whole life it is crumbling around me.  It is sooo overwhelming.  That is the reason for the past four years ... I have made it my mission to anonymously reveal all for the sake of Natalee Holloway's family and ... for the sake of my relationships with my son and my husband ... relationships that cannot survive in the long run built with lies as a foundation.  Also ... the truth must be revealed for the sake of my son's future well being.  He has failed to learn ... he was not taught ... that the established legal and moral boundaries apply to him and ... that lessons unlearned will put future "Natalees" at risk.

Please pray that God will give me the strength to do what is right.

Anita van der Sloot.

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