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« Reply #1800 on: May 16, 2009, 03:49:24 PM »

So if Ronald S Lawless who was married to Elain  C who shared a phone number with Gary D Lawless brother of timothy was the same person as Gary D Lawless father to Timothy and Gary, then that could be an explanation as to why elain and gary shared a number.

Whew! was that even right? Yikes!

So it would make Gary the son a step son to Elain. Now Gary the son's mother was married to Gary the father for a short time, right? then he disappeared...would it fit into the time line that he left, changed his name, met Elain, and married her?

well we know that ronald sutton lawless is ronald sutton lawless because of his birth certificate.  what we don't know is if gary d lawless the father is actually gary d lawless, he got married under that name but I personally know a person who married under another name and for 10 years his wife never knew his real name and all his kids had the fake name on their birth certificates, so back then you could get married under a made up name. 

we can't find a birth record or death record for the right gary d lawless.  we can find a birth record for ronald sutton lawless.  perhaps ronald sutton lawless is the uncle to gary duane lawless?  he could be gary's (the father) brother? right age to be brothers.  I have been trying to figure this out for awhile now.  LOL.  it's a mind-boggling mess

Ugg i forgot to type my thoughts,lol. Sorry about that!
So I think they are one in the same, lets prove or disprove that.

hmmm I answered but my post did not show up ugh, ok writing it again

ronald sutton lawless has a birth record under that name, he married under that name 2 times and he divorced under that name.  now did he happen to be in napa in the 1950's and get married under the name of gary d lawless?  it's always possible. 
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« Reply #1801 on: May 16, 2009, 03:49:47 PM »

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Robert Alan Lawless is in the Sunnyvale/Mountain View area...
Santa Clara county I believe.
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« Reply #1802 on: May 16, 2009, 04:01:01 PM »

Maybe we just call one of the people and ask. The worse they can do is hang up right? Well they can also curse you, but who cares, lol.

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« Reply #1803 on: May 16, 2009, 04:02:06 PM »

Maybe we just call one of the people and ask. The worse they can do is hang up right? Well they can also curse you, but who cares, lol.



well more power to anyone who calls LOL, but I call no one LOL. 
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« Reply #1804 on: May 16, 2009, 04:03:32 PM »

3110 Ewing Avenue, Altadena CDP, CA 91001
Neighborhood: North Central Altadena

Owner: Ronald Lawless and Dolores Lawless (Trustees) and Lawless (Family Trust)
 

 List your home For Sale
sales history (1992-present)
 
No sales history available.

about the property
 
Year built: 1910
Square footage (land): N/A
Square footage (living): 932 sq. ft.
Beds: 2
Baths: 1
Stories: N/A
 
2007 property taxes: $692.65
school information
 High School: Pasadena
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« Reply #1805 on: May 16, 2009, 04:04:38 PM »

right down the street

3121 Ewing Avenue, Altadena CDP, CA 91001
Neighborhood: North Central Altadena

Owner: Brian Hughes and Pamela Hughes
 

 List your home For Sale
sales history (1992-present)
 
$257,000 on June 16, 2000
B: Brian Hughes and Pamela Hughes
S: Neola Caveny


about the property
 
Year built: 1961
Square footage (land): N/A
Square footage (living): 1,348 sq. ft.
Beds: 3
Baths: 2
Stories: N/A
 
2007 property taxes: $3,462.62
school information
 High School: Pasadena
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« Reply #1806 on: May 16, 2009, 04:12:06 PM »

Ok My Monkey Buds!!!
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I'll be BAaaack! ( i live n Cali...I can't help the arnold accent...LOL)
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« Reply #1807 on: May 16, 2009, 04:12:50 PM »

Maybe we just call one of the people and ask. The worse they can do is hang up right? Well they can also curse you, but who cares, lol.



well more power to anyone who calls LOL, but I call no one LOL. 

LOL, when I called Billy's mom I was a bit uncomfortable. I like the computer better. So if there are any brave monkeys out there in the jungle that is not shy to call maybe trying to get ahold of Elain C she can clue us in?
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« Reply #1808 on: May 16, 2009, 04:15:46 PM »

Name: Ronald S Lawless
Birth Date: Oct 1900
Address: 3110 N Ewing Av, Altadena, California 91001-0901 (1993)
[6951 N Vista, San Gabriel, California 91775-1201 (1971)]


all below at this address
6951 VISTA SAN GABRIEL, CA
 ALTADENA, CA
SAN DIMAS, CA
SAN GABRIEL, CA
MONROVIA, CA

Possible Relatives:

LAWLESS, DEE
LAWLESS, DOLORES M (Age 56)
LAWLESS, ELAINE C (Age 68)
LAWLESS, TODD ALFRED (Age 37)
LAWLESS, ERICA M (Age 22)



 SAN GABRIEL, CA
WEST COVINA, CA
MISSION VIEJO, CA
SAN JUAN CAPISTRANO, CA

Possible Relatives:

LEONARD, BETTY JEAN (Age 62)
LEONARD, DENISE M (Age 34)
LEONARD, BJ


SAN GABRIEL, CA
NEW ORLEANS, LA
NORTH HOLLYWOOD, CA
CLEVELAND, OH   

Possible Roommates / Associates:

MICHAEL, RODNEY JINES (Age 59)
we have a michael last name with someone, who is it?
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« Reply #1809 on: May 16, 2009, 04:15:49 PM »

Good afternoon All you persistant monkeys -

This is driving me crazy to.  I went to bed thinking about it 

Anyway I know you have probably noticed but just in case

Gary D Lawless (b.1933) married Marylin E Tiekin on June 6, 1968
Ronald S Lawless (b1939) married Elaine C Bevilaqua on Aug. 17, 1968

Gary D Lawless (b.1933) divorced Marylin E. Tiekin in July 1968
Ronald S Lawless (b. 1939) divorced Elaine C. Beviliqua in Jan 1973

Marylin E Teikin then marries Manuel Gomes Oct. 30, 1973 and the Lawless boys then take the last name of Gomes.  According to the birth and marriage records we see that the three Lawless boys Timothy, Gary and Jeffery were born before their mother married Gary yet they all have Lawless name on birth record. I'm trying to figure out what was going on back then, which also brings up the name Short.  Maybe they were all trying to change their names and then just left Marylin's name without a change so there would be some record for at least one of them. ??????????????????  Who knows?? 
I did a search on the Short in Ca.
I found this
  SHORT, JOLINE J (Age 53)
Associated names:
 SHORT, JODIE S
 SHORT, JOLINE S
 Available(2) Available GILBERT, AZ
SPARKS, NV
MESA, AZ
SNOWFLAKE, AZ
RENO, NV
BULLHEAD CITY, AZ
SANTA CLARITA, CA
AGUA DULCE, CA
SIMI VALLEY, CA Possible Relatives:

SHORT, TIM S
SHORT, GEORGE SCOTT (Age 92)
SHORT, FLORENCE M
SHORT, TIMOTHY S
SHORT, CHARLES A (Age 76)
SHORT, JODIE (Age 51)
SHORT, TIMOTHY S (Age 50)
SHORT, MARILYN E (Age 72)SHORT, CAROL A

Possible Roommates / Associates:

EPSTEIN, CORY LYNN (Age 54)
EPSTEIN, KERRY P (Age 55)
SHORT, DEVON RAE (Age 31)
SHORT, SCOTT T (Age 55)
EPSTEIN, CORY L (Age 54)
EPSTEIN, BRYAN R (Age 28)
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SHORT, TIMOTHY S (Age 54)
 Available(4) Available GILBERT, AZ
SPARKS, NV
BULLHEAD CITY, AZ
MESA, AZ
SIMI VALLEY, CA
SANTA CLARITA, CA
AGUA DULCE, CA
RENO, NV Possible Relatives:

SHORT, JOLINE J (Age 53)
SHORT, GEORGE SCOTT (Age 92)
SHORT, FLORENCE M
SHORT, CHARLES A (Age 76)
SHORT, JODIE (Age 51)
SHORT, TIMOTHY S (Age 50)
SHORT, MARILYN E (Age 72)
SHORT, COPELAND GERALD
SHORT, CAROL A

Possible Roommates / Associates:
SHORT, SCOTT T (Age 55)

Marilyn's Short's age is the same as Marylin Tiekin. As you can see Timothy Short's  age changes before your eyes in the above search. Also does not match Timothy Lawless or Gomes age but could be changing names and info.  I don't know.  I am extremely curious as to what is going on.  Joline Short is listed on both of these as well and her name doesn't change.

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« Reply #1810 on: May 16, 2009, 04:24:26 PM »

Also Charles A Short is the right age to be Gary D Lawless born about 1933.
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« Reply #1811 on: May 16, 2009, 04:27:33 PM »

Name: Ronald Lawless
Phone Number: 351-5331
Address: 1370 Coronet Av, Pasadena, California 91107-1101 (1990)
[2703 Mountain Pine Dr, LA Crescenta, California 91214]

 all below at this number, here is ronald alan lawless/ aka duggan and sandi jo lawless aka duggan

(626) 351-5331

 PASADENA, CA

Possible Relatives:

LAWLESS DUGGAN, SANDI JO (Age 72)
LAWLESS, RONALD ALAN
 


 LAS VEGAS, NV
PASADENA, CA

Possible Relatives:

DUGGAN, RONALD ALAN (Age 79)
LAWLESS, RONALD ALAN
LAWLESS, SJ (this is sandi jo)



 ARCADIA, CA
PASADENA, CA
LOS ANGELES, CA

Possible Relatives:

MARTIN, BARBARA A (Age 63)
LYNCH, MAXINE T (Age 51)
LYNCH, DANIEL G (Age 51)
CONNERJR, KRISTEN S (Age 43)
LYNCH, JOHN TIMOTHY (Age 54)
LYNCH, TRUST
LYNCH, BARBARA A (Age 63)




TULSA, OK

SIERRA MADRE, CA
MONROVIA, CA
PASADENA, CA
AURORA, CO

Possible Relatives:

THORPE, VICTORIA ANNE (Age 50)
THORPE, MELANIE MARA (Age 53)
THORPE, TORY
THORPE, TORI
THORPE, WILLIAM J (Age 86)



 ARCADIA, CA
PASADENA, CA
LOS ANGELES, CA

Possible Relatives:

LYNCH, JOSEPH MICHAEL (Age 56)
LYNCH, DANIEL G (Age 51)
LYNCH, MAXINE T (Age 51)
CONNER JR, KRISTEN S (Age 43)
LYNCH, JOHN TIMOTHY (Age 54)
LYNCH, TRUST
LYNCH, JOS
LYNCH, BARBARA A (Age 63) 

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« Reply #1812 on: May 16, 2009, 04:37:02 PM »

Good afternoon All you persistant monkeys -

This is driving me crazy to.  I went to bed thinking about it 

Anyway I know you have probably noticed but just in case

Gary D Lawless (b.1933) married Marylin E Tiekin on June 6, 1968
Ronald S Lawless (b1939) married Elaine C Bevilaqua on Aug. 17, 1968

Gary D Lawless (b.1933) divorced Marylin E. Tiekin in July 1968
Ronald S Lawless (b. 1939) divorced Elaine C. Beviliqua in Jan 1973

Marylin E Teikin then marries Manuel Gomes Oct. 30, 1973 and the Lawless boys then take the last name of Gomes.  According to the birth and marriage records we see that the three Lawless boys Timothy, Gary and Jeffery were born before their mother married Gary yet they all have Lawless name on birth record. I'm trying to figure out what was going on back then, which also brings up the name Short.  Maybe they were all trying to change their names and then just left Marylin's name without a change so there would be some record for at least one of them. ??????????????????  Who knows?? 
I did a search on the Short in Ca.
I found this
  SHORT, JOLINE J (Age 53)
Associated names:
 SHORT, JODIE S
 SHORT, JOLINE S
 Available(2) Available GILBERT, AZ
SPARKS, NV
MESA, AZ
SNOWFLAKE, AZ
RENO, NV
BULLHEAD CITY, AZ
SANTA CLARITA, CA
AGUA DULCE, CA
SIMI VALLEY, CA Possible Relatives:

SHORT, TIM S
SHORT, GEORGE SCOTT (Age 92)
SHORT, FLORENCE M
SHORT, TIMOTHY S
SHORT, CHARLES A (Age 76)
SHORT, JODIE (Age 51)
SHORT, TIMOTHY S (Age 50)
SHORT, MARILYN E (Age 72)SHORT, CAROL A

Possible Roommates / Associates:

EPSTEIN, CORY LYNN (Age 54)
EPSTEIN, KERRY P (Age 55)
SHORT, DEVON RAE (Age 31)
SHORT, SCOTT T (Age 55)
EPSTEIN, CORY L (Age 54)
EPSTEIN, BRYAN R (Age 28)
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SHORT, TIMOTHY S (Age 54)
 Available(4) Available GILBERT, AZ
SPARKS, NV
BULLHEAD CITY, AZ
MESA, AZ
SIMI VALLEY, CA
SANTA CLARITA, CA
AGUA DULCE, CA
RENO, NV Possible Relatives:

SHORT, JOLINE J (Age 53)
SHORT, GEORGE SCOTT (Age 92)
SHORT, FLORENCE M
SHORT, CHARLES A (Age 76)
SHORT, JODIE (Age 51)
SHORT, TIMOTHY S (Age 50)
SHORT, MARILYN E (Age 72)
SHORT, COPELAND GERALD
SHORT, CAROL A

Possible Roommates / Associates:
SHORT, SCOTT T (Age 55)

Marilyn's Short's age is the same as Marylin Tiekin. As you can see Timothy Short's  age changes before your eyes in the above search. Also does not match Timothy Lawless or Gomes age but could be changing names and info.  I don't know.  I am extremely curious as to what is going on.  Joline Short is listed on both of these as well and her name doesn't change.



Why are these two mens so intertwinned? Gary marries 2 months befor Ronald, then divorces one month before Ronald marries Elain. In 1973 Divorces Ronald 10 before Maylin marries Gomes.

In California in 1968 could you be divorced after one month of marriage? I thought back then it was more difficult to get divorced. The no fault divorce didn't start until the 70's right? Plus, isn't there some kind of waiting period for a divorce to be final? Isn't that were the "mexican divorce" came from? You could divorce in a day?

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« Reply #1813 on: May 16, 2009, 04:40:27 PM »

Can you falsify these records we are pulling up? is there a way to file a false birth, death, divorce record so it shows up on these lists?
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« Reply #1814 on: May 16, 2009, 04:54:44 PM »

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No-fault_divorce

Ronald regan signed into law a no fault divorce in 1969 it was enacted in 1970. Most states still required a 1-2 year waiting period before a divorce could be granted. So wouldn't the happy couple getting married then divorced in one month not be legal?
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« Reply #1815 on: May 16, 2009, 06:20:49 PM »

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No-fault_divorce

Ronald regan signed into law a no fault divorce in 1969 it was enacted in 1970. Most states still required a 1-2 year waiting period before a divorce could be granted. So wouldn't the happy couple getting married then divorced in one month not be legal?

Wow!!! I don't know what happened but my computer froze up and then I couldn't get back onto the blog without shutting down my computer and bringing it back up again.  Anyway, Tracygirl I think something hinky's going on but I don't know how we are supposed to get to the bottom of it.  I can't figure for the life of me what was going on back then and why we can't find our link now.
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« Reply #1816 on: May 16, 2009, 06:49:06 PM »

Well what do we have here Monkeys???
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http://www.sos.state.ok.us/business/Cancelled2005.htm
3500673354, GARY D. LAWLESS MINISTRIES, L.L.C., 4245050001, Cancelled, 7/1/2005.

You know Lone, I think you may have the right state there. Its where I found the only other Lane Lawless. Somone will be hard pressed to tell me they are not related in some way. Apparently they have a farming interest as well.
 
  1900656825  LAWLESS SPORTS & ORTHOPEDIC REHAB, INC.  Domestic For Profit Business Corporation  Legal 

 (RA) Registered Agent: LANE LAWLESS
1157 S ASPEN AVE
BROKEN ARROW, OK 74012 

Other Lawless entities in Ok:

 
3512135383  LAWLESS POWER SOLUTIONS LLC  Domestic Limited Liability Company  Legal 

 (RA) Registered Agent: Lawless Michael W
8668 N. 380 Road
Locust Grove, OK 74352 

 (RA) Effective Date: 3/30/2007


LAWLES AG CONSULTING, LLC  Domestic Limited Liability Company  Legal  (AG is Agricultural)

 (RA) Registered Agent: LAWLES CHRIS
RT 1 BOX 13
HYDRO, OK 73048 

 (RA) Effective Date: 10/21/2006

LAWLES CROP SOLUTIONS LLC  Domestic Limited Liability Company  Legal 

 (RA) Registered Agent: LAWLES JASON
RT 2 BOX 11
HYDRO, OK 73048 

 (RA) Effective Date: 3/22/2008




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« Reply #1817 on: May 16, 2009, 07:05:46 PM »

A Quick note about databases, in case there is anyone not familiar- "DATA" is only as good as records kept. The old adage, garbage in = garbage out.

Pre 9-11 it was not difficult, without a criminal record to falsify an identity, or "tweak" one. We are working against the fact that people are using multiple names from multiple family lines. The way to get where we need to go, is to combine verifiable data such as known birth records, deeds, criminal charges and incarceration, and honestly, those that are shown with changing multiple initials. Lastly, a bulk of info is from the CASS certifications mailing lists. Just because mail goes to an address, does not mean it is where someone lived. It could be they filled out a raffle at a circus, lol.

That said, I see every key poster on here seeing that we are beginning to establish a pattern. No matter what, even if in a sense we are working backward, we will be able to establish a very tight tree, cross section of sex offenders and criminals and solidify the "church" portions of this family. Great work you guys, truly.
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« Reply #1818 on: May 16, 2009, 07:29:44 PM »

Ok My Monkey Buds!!!
I'm off to see Angels & Demons...
I'll be BAaaack! ( i live n Cali...I can't help the arnold accent...LOL)

What a Movie for You to See after being so engulfed in your research here..
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« Reply #1819 on: May 16, 2009, 08:37:41 PM »

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I was checking out some of the names in your post #1808 - the name Kristen S ConnerJr-
CONNER, KRISTEN S (Age 43)
Associated names:
 COOLEY, KRISTEN S < name Cooley??
LYNCH, KRIS
 LYNCH, KRISTEN
 Available(5) Available
 MONROVIA, CA
OCEANSIDE, CA
SAN DIEGO, CA
SAN JOSE, CA Possible Relatives:

LYNCH, TIMOTHY J
CONNER, PEGASUS
CONNERJR, KRISTEN S (Age 43)
CONNER, JEAN C (Age 46)
CONNER, BARBARA Y (Age 74)
CONNER, JERALD P (Age 78)
COOLEY, SCOTT M (Age 39) < name Cooley ??
CONNER, YVONNE

Possible Roommates / Associates:
CONNOLLYJR, THOMAS E (Age 68)
CONNOLLY, SANDRA L (Age 68)
BROWN, JANICE LYNNE (Age 47)

This came up in criminal searches for a Scott Cooley.  There are others with different birthdates but this one will be 39 in June -

Full Name:  Scott Edmund Cooley Date of Birth:  06/04/1970
AKAs:  Height:  6'0"
Weight:  204 LBS
Hair Color:  BROWN
Eye Color:  BROWN
Race:  WHITE
Gender:  Male

ADDRESSES 
     
Possible Previous Address 1:  DAYAN ST, LOWVILLE, NY 13367 

S CRIMINAL OFFENSE 1  Offense Date:   
Legend
Bv Behavioral
Bu Business
D Drug & Alcohol
S Sex Related
T Theft/Robbery
V Violent
O Traffic/Other
 
Case Number: 16161
Offense Type: Rape
Offense Code: PL130.30
Offense Description: RAPE-2ND DEGREE OTHER VICTIM AGE: 4
Conviction Date: 2001/06/25

Date Reported:   
 
O CRIMINAL OFFENSE 2 
Offense Date:   
Case Number: 16161
Offense Type: Traffic/Other
Offense Code: PL130.45
Offense Description: SODOMY-2ND DEGREE OTHER VICTIM AGE: 4
Conviction Date: 2001/06/25
 Date Reported:   
 
O CRIMINAL OFFENSE 3  
Offense Date:   
Case Number: 16161
Offense Type: Traffic/Other
Offense Code: PL130.6503
Offense Description: SEXUAL ABUSE 1ST:SEXUAL CONTACT WITH INDIVIDUAL LESS THAN 11YEARS OLD OTHER VICTIM AGE: 4
Conviction Date: 2001/06/25
 Date Reported:   
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