The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection

[Sister]

Quad City Herald July 17,1986
30th grandchild
A baby boy, their fourth boy, was born Monday July 14 to Gerry and Luanne Lawless, East

Wenatchee.
Kai Aaron Richard Lawless was born in Northcentral Washington Hospital.
3 brothers of the home Ian, Brynne, and Colt.  Grandparents - Mr and Mrs Don Johnson,

Brewster and Mr. and Mrs. Dean Warner, Orondo. He is the 30th grandchild for the
Johnsons.

Here is info regarding names of some of Gerald siblings and birthdate of one.


Ian is the grandchild of Mrs. Betty Lawless Johnson

[Sister]

Scratch my last statement -- still working

[Sister]

Here is the Maine Connection

http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=EJoMAAAAIBAJ&sjid=5WUDAAAAIBAJ&pg=2658,976981&dq=brewster+lawless+seattle+john-lawless

Quad City Herald Dec 25, 1986

It was an early Christmas celebration last weekend at the home of Don and Bette Johnson.  Visiting were her daughter Nancy and Nick Pizzatola and daughter Monique of Seattle, and son Jerry and Louanne Lawless and their four sons of East Wenatchee.  Joining them for a feast were Bill Lawless and children of Brewster.  John Lawless called unexpectedly from Bangor, Maine, with Christmas greetings.

hmmm, let me see what I can find on that.   

[Sister]

Bette June Grimes & Donald Lafayette Johnson

Date:6 Jun 1965
Location:Brewster, WA

she is the x-wife of richard Birdette Lawless, the brother of george w lawless. 

so she is the aunt of clifford land lawless.

her son John lawless would be the cousin of clifford lane lawless. 

hmm wonder if she has other kids, let me go see.

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ok beatrice ganzman is beatrice sanderson, she is the sister of sarah sanderson(the mother of jessie dicus, mother of CLL)

beatrice ganzman/nee sanderson went to the reunion with grandson GARY. 

so one of her kids has a son GARY.  it is NOT her son carl everett ganzman who has the son GAry, as carl has 3 daughters. 

so in finding out all of this, here is carl's line

Descendants of Carl Ludwig Edward Ganzman
                              
   1     Carl Ludwig Edward Ganzman   1886 - 1930   b: July 13, 1886 in Constance, Konstanz, baden-wuerttemberg, Germany   d: 1930 in Washington, USA   Age at birth of first child: 29 est.   Age at death: 44 est.         
.      +Beatrice Violet Sanderson   1895 - 1965   b: November 09, 1895 in Mansfield, Douglas, Washington, USA   d: July 29, 1965 in Walla Walla, Walla Walla, Washington, USA   Age at birth of first child: 20 est.   Age at death: 69         
........   2     Hellen G Cladys(?) Ganzman   1915 -   b: Abt. 1915 in Pateros, Okanogan, Washington, United States                  
........   2     Frances Elizabeth Ganzman   1917 -   b: September 19, 1917 in Pateros, Okanogan, Washington, United States                  
........   2     Carl Everett Ganzman   1919 - 1998   b: January 18, 1919 in Pateros, Okanogan, Washington, United States   d: August 31, 1998 in Yakima, Yakima, Washington, USA      Age at death: 79   Age at first Marriage: 25      
...........      +Rachael Perilee Curry   1920 - 2002   b: May 10, 1920 in Seattle, King, Washington, USA   d: December 31, 2002 in Yakima, Yakima, Washington, USA      Age at death: 82   Age at first Marriage: 24      
..................   3     Sharen Ganzman                        
.....................      +Jim Wisemore                        
..................      *2nd Husband of Sharen Ganzman:                        
.....................      +unknown Ellenberger                        
............................   4     Jay E Ellenberger                        
...............................      +Jay E. Ellenberger                        
............................   4     Kym Ellenberger                        
...............................      +Darrell Burrow                        
..................   3     Kaytie "Georgia" Ganzman                        
.....................      +Delano Arner                        
............................   4     Chandelle Arner                        
..................   3     Carel Ganzman                        
.....................      +Larry Cates                        
............................   4     Jacci Cates                        
...............................      +Jason Sowder                        

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so since it is not Carl ganzman(the son of beatrice ganzman/nee sanderson), then gary must be the son of one of these other two children

 2     Hellen G Cladys(?) Ganzman   1915 -   b: Abt. 1915 in Pateros, Okanogan, Washington, United States                 
........   2     Frances Elizabeth Ganzman   1917 -   b: September 19, 1917 in Pateros, Okanogan, Washington, United States
_________________

so now I have to find out who they married and who their kids are in order to find GARY, and to figure out if he could be a lawless.  did one of these two daughters marry a lawless is the question? and which one has a son GARY

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here we can see which generations are at the same time as the generations of CLL lawless family. 


Descendants of Eva Eliza Godfrey


Generation No. 1

1.  EVA ELIZA1 GODFREY was born September 15, 1858 in Hinchinbrooke Twp, Frontenac, Ontario, Canada, and died December 11, 1941 in Pateros, Okanogan, Washington, United States.  She married DANIEL WILSON SANDERSON.  He was born February 08, 1853 in Sheffield Twp, Lenox and Addington, Ontario, Canada, and died June 22, 1939 in Pateros, Okanogan, Washington, United States.
   
Children of EVA GODFREY and DANIEL SANDERSON are:
2.   i.   SARAH EDNA LOUSIA SADIE2 SANDERSON, b. February 28, 1882, Olden Twp, Frontenac, Ontario, Canada; d. April 09, 1966, Pateros, Okanogan, Washington, United States.
   ii.   ROBERT EVERETT SANDERSON, b. November 07, 1880, Olden Twp, Frontenac, Ontario, Canada; d. May 15, 1899, Mansfield, Douglas, Washington, USA.
   iii.   FLORENCE EVALENA SANDERSON, b. March 07, 1884, Olden Twp, Frontenac, Ontario, Canada; d. January 20, 1965, Pateros, Okanogan, Washington, United States; m. UNKNOWN MANSFIELD.
3.   iv.   EVA "GRACE" SANDERSON, b. April 09, 1886, Mountain Grove, Frotenac, Ontario, Canada; d. August 15, 1966, Spokane, Washington, USA.
   v.   CLARA MYRTLE SANDERSON, b. February 14, 1888, Mountain Grove, Frotenac, Ontario, Canada; d. February 12, 1975; m. UNKNOWN MCKENZIE.
   vi.   ANNIE LAURA SANDERSON, b. December 30, 1890; d. 1891.
   vii.   GLADYS TRESSA SANDERSON, b. September 09, 1893, Waterville, Douglas, Washington, USA; d. November 25, 1970, Seattle, King, Washington, USA; m. GEORGE SNYDER.
4.   viii.   BEATRICE VIOLET SANDERSON, b. November 09, 1895, Mansfield, Douglas, Washington, USA; d. July 29, 1965, Walla Walla, Walla Walla, Washington, USA.
   ix.   KENNETH SANDERSON.


Generation No. 2

2.  SARAH EDNA LOUSIA SADIE2 SANDERSON (EVA ELIZA1 GODFREY) was born February 28, 1882 in Olden Twp, Frontenac, Ontario, Canada, and died April 09, 1966 in Pateros, Okanogan, Washington, United States.  She married ALFRED DICUS.  He was born March 12, 1876 in Woodbury, Iowa, United States, and died February 06, 1972 in Brewster, Okanogan, Washington, United States.
   
Children of SARAH SANDERSON and ALFRED DICUS are:
   i.   INFANT3 DICUS, b. 1901.
   ii.   EVA LOETTA DICUS, b. 1902.
   iii.   DOROTHY ELVA DICUS, b. 1904.
5.   iv.   JESSIE GRACE DICUS, b. 1906, Douglas, Washington, United States.
   v.   EVEREST ALFRED DICUS, b. February 22, 1910; d. January 1993, Tonasket, Okanogan, Washington, USA; m. NORMA MAY GREENWAY.
   vi.   DAVID WILSON DICUS, b. 1912; d. January 31, 1970, Omak, Okanogan, Washington, USA.
   vii.   NORBERT FRANK DICUS, b. 1921.


3.  EVA "GRACE"2 SANDERSON (EVA ELIZA1 GODFREY) was born April 09, 1886 in Mountain Grove, Frotenac, Ontario, Canada, and died August 15, 1966 in Spokane, Washington, USA.  She married HAROLD HAIGHT. 
   
Child of EVA SANDERSON and HAROLD HAIGHT is:
   i.   DAUGHTER3 HAIGHT, m. UNKNOWN MUTCH.


4.  BEATRICE VIOLET2 SANDERSON (EVA ELIZA1 GODFREY) was born November 09, 1895 in Mansfield, Douglas, Washington, USA, and died July 29, 1965 in Walla Walla, Walla Walla, Washington, USA.  She married CARL LUDWIG EDWARD GANZMAN.  He was born July 13, 1886 in Constance, Konstanz, baden-wuerttemberg, Germany, and died 1930 in Washington, USA.
   
Children of BEATRICE SANDERSON and CARL GANZMAN are:
   i.   HELLEN G CLADYS(?)3 GANZMAN, b. Abt. 1915, Pateros, Okanogan, Washington, United States.
   ii.   FRANCES ELIZABETH GANZMAN, b. September 19, 1917, Pateros, Okanogan, Washington, United States.
6.   iii.   CARL EVERETT GANZMAN, b. January 18, 1919, Pateros, Okanogan, Washington, United States; d. August 31, 1998, Yakima, Yakima, Washington, USA.


Generation No. 3

5.  JESSIE GRACE3 DICUS (SARAH EDNA LOUSIA SADIE2 SANDERSON, EVA ELIZA1 GODFREY) was born 1906 in Douglas, Washington, United States.  She married (1) GEORGE WEBSTER LAWLESS, son of JAMES LAWLESS and NANCY ROWLAND.  He was born April 28, 1892 in Fremont, Dodge, Nebraska, United States, and died November 11, 1969 in Washington, United States.  She married (2) "LUCKY LOUIE". 
   
Children of JESSIE DICUS and GEORGE LAWLESS are:
7.   i.   CLIFFORD "LANE"4 LAWLESS, b. August 1931.
   ii.   PAUL GEORGE LAWLESS, b. January 24, 1927; d. March 26, 1997, Hyattsville, Prince Georges, Maryland, United States of America.


6.  CARL EVERETT3 GANZMAN (BEATRICE VIOLET2 SANDERSON, EVA ELIZA1 GODFREY) was born January 18, 1919 in Pateros, Okanogan, Washington, United States, and died August 31, 1998 in Yakima, Yakima, Washington, USA.  He married RACHAEL PERILEE CURRY July 11, 1944 in Seattle, King, Washington, USA, daughter of LARS CURRY and AGNES.  She was born May 10, 1920 in Seattle, King, Washington, USA, and died December 31, 2002 in Yakima, Yakima, Washington, USA.
   
Children of CARL GANZMAN and RACHAEL CURRY are:
8.   i.   SHAREN4 GANZMAN.
9.   ii.   KAYTIE "GEORGIA" GANZMAN.
10.   iii.   CAREL GANZMAN.


Generation No. 4

7.  CLIFFORD "LANE"4 LAWLESS (JESSIE GRACE3 DICUS, SARAH EDNA LOUSIA SADIE2 SANDERSON, EVA ELIZA1 GODFREY) was born August 1931.  He married CONSTANCE LORENE HARRIS, daughter of ARTHUR HARRIS and IRENE COOPER.  She was born August 06, 1941 in Monterey County, California, USA.
   
Children of CLIFFORD LAWLESS and CONSTANCE HARRIS are:
   i.   BRETT5 LAWLESS.
11.   ii.   BRIAN L LAWLESS, b. 1961.
   iii.   JONI LAWLESS, m. HUGHES.


8.   SHAREN4 GANZMAN (CARL EVERETT3, BEATRICE VIOLET2 SANDERSON, EVA ELIZA1 GODFREY)  She married (1) JIM WISEMORE, son of EARL CATES and CALLIE JUSTICE.    She married (2) UNKNOWN ELLENBERGER. 
   
Children of SHAREN GANZMAN and UNKNOWN ELLENBERGER are:
12.   i.   JAY E5 ELLENBERGER.
13.   ii.   KYM ELLENBERGER.


9.  KAYTIE "GEORGIA"4 GANZMAN (CARL EVERETT3, BEATRICE VIOLET2 SANDERSON, EVA ELIZA1 GODFREY)  She married DELANO ARNER. 
   
Child of KAYTIE GANZMAN and DELANO ARNER is:
   i.   CHANDELLE5 ARNER.


10.  CAREL4 GANZMAN (CARL EVERETT3, BEATRICE VIOLET2 SANDERSON, EVA ELIZA1 GODFREY)  She married LARRY CATES. 
   
Child of CAREL GANZMAN and LARRY CATES is:
14.   i.   JACCI5 CATES.


Generation No. 5

11.  BRIAN L5 LAWLESS (CLIFFORD "LANE"4, JESSIE GRACE3 DICUS, SARAH EDNA LOUSIA SADIE2 SANDERSON, EVA ELIZA1 GODFREY) was born 1961.  He married JUDY A. PURKS. 
   
Children of BRIAN LAWLESS and JUDY PURKS are:
15.   i.   MELISSA CHANTEL6 LAWLESS, b. February 23, 1981, Orange County, California, USA.
   ii.   ADAM LAWLESS.
   iii.   CELEB JOSHUA LAWLESS.
   iv.   JULIANNE LAWLESS.


12.  JAY E5 ELLENBERGER (SHAREN4 GANZMAN, CARL EVERETT3, BEATRICE VIOLET2 SANDERSON, EVA ELIZA1 GODFREY)  He married JAY E. ELLENBERGER. 
   
Children of JAY ELLENBERGER and JAY ELLENBERGER are:
   i.   MATHEW6 ELLENBERGER.
   ii.   BENJAMIN ELLENBERGER.


13.  KYM5 ELLENBERGER (SHAREN4 GANZMAN, CARL EVERETT3, BEATRICE VIOLET2 SANDERSON, EVA ELIZA1 GODFREY)  She married DARRELL BURROW. 
   
Children of KYM ELLENBERGER and DARRELL BURROW are:
   i.   SHELBY6 BURROW.
   ii.   CARLY BURROW.


14.  JACCI5 CATES (CAREL4 GANZMAN, CARL EVERETT3, BEATRICE VIOLET2 SANDERSON, EVA ELIZA1 GODFREY)  She married JASON SOWDER. 
   
Children of JACCI CATES and JASON SOWDER are:
   i.   ALAYNA6 CATES.
   ii.   MIKAYLA CATES.
   iii.   LANCE CATES.
   iv.   CURRY CATES.
   v.   REBECCA J CATES.


Generation No. 6

15.  MELISSA CHANTEL6 LAWLESS (BRIAN L5, CLIFFORD "LANE"4, JESSIE GRACE3 DICUS, SARAH EDNA LOUSIA SADIE2 SANDERSON, EVA ELIZA1 GODFREY) was born February 23, 1981 in Orange County, California, USA.  She married JOHNNY JASON HUCKABY. 
   
Child of MELISSA LAWLESS and JOHNNY HUCKABY is:
   i.   DAUGHTER7 LAWLESS.

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so since it is not Carl ganzman(the son of beatrice ganzman/nee sanderson), then gary must be the son of one of these other two children

 2     Hellen G Cladys(?) Ganzman   1915 -   b: Abt. 1915 in Pateros, Okanogan, Washington, United States                 
........   2     Frances Elizabeth Ganzman   1917 -   b: September 19, 1917 in Pateros, Okanogan, Washington, United States
_________________

so now I have to find out who they married and who their kids are in order to find GARY, and to figure out if he could be a lawless.  did one of these two daughters marry a lawless is the question? and which one has a son GARY

gary lawless missing father is born abt 1933. 
hellen would be 18 in 1933.
frances would be 16 in 1933

it is possible either of these girls could have a baby in 1933. 
now to see who they marry.

[Sister]

I swear, I had it clear as a bell -- duh!
ok lawless folks used gomes back and forth with Marilyn aka short and lawless and gomes i.e. timothy lawless/gomes/gary duane lawless/gomes, jeffrey carl lawless/gomes.
Ian Gomes is the grandson of Betty Lawless Johnson x-wife of Birdette Lawless, who is brother of George W. Lawless (ekekeke) who ______ to John Lawless who is the cousin of Clifford Lane Lawless.  Katherine Gomes is the mother of Ian Gomes.
Does that make sense?  If not, please delete my post.

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one thing I want to mention in case people don't realize this.  when you get back into the 1800's genealogy, then had orphan trains, and some people would go get the orphans because the more kids you had the more land you were given in some states.  ugh.. sad but true, and sometimes kids were stolen for this reason also.  so sometimes you end up with kids in the home who do not belong to the parents. but for our purposes it probably does not matter if the people actually are the parents or not, because all we are trying to do if fiugre out what is going on within the families moreso than really finding the bloodlines.

[Sister]

DD, your is so logical
mine is so . . . confusing might be a nice word.
I can't find all the info yet.  Maybe Blink will just delete my post and I will learn to keep my typing keys to myself.
Nite.

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I swear, I had it clear as a bell -- duh!
ok lawless folks used gomes back and forth with Marilyn aka short and lawless and gomes i.e. timothy lawless/gomes/gary duane lawless/gomes, jeffrey carl lawless/gomes.
Ian Gomes is the grandson of Betty Lawless Johnson x-wife of Birdette Lawless, who is brother of George W. Lawless (ekekeke) who ______ to John Lawless who is the cousin of Clifford Lane Lawless.  Katherine Gomes is the mother of Ian Gomes.
Does that make sense?  If not, please delete my post.

ok I follow most of this.  I get lost at john? which john is this? george and richard birdette are brothers yes, they have a brother john mack lawless who dies in cali.  he is the one who calls from bangor maine on xmas of 1986.  he is the uncle of CLL.  who is the john who is the COUSIN of CLL?  I better go refresh my brain haha. 

Ian is the son of gerald lawless and luanneA baby boy, their fourth boy, was born Monday July 14 to Gerry and Luanne Lawless, Gerald is the son of bette june grimes and richard birdette lawless.
Kai Aaron Richard Lawless was born in North central Washington Hospital.
3 brothers of the home Ian, Brynne, and Colt.  Grandparents - Mr and Mrs Don Johnson(this would be better june grimes/lawless/johnson)

so I am lost at which john you are talking about, and which Ian you are talking about? 

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DD, your is so logical
mine is so . . . confusing might be a nice word.
I can't find all the info yet.  Maybe Blink will just delete my post and I will learn to keep my typing keys to myself.
Nite.

no, you keep brainstorming and tossing stuff out here, this is what makes us think and start finding things to look for.  I can follow you fine.  when we get lost with trying to understand what the other persons are doing or saying, then we just need to ask and sort through it til we get it LOL.  I am quite sure no one is understanding 90% of what I am saying    but i get on a line and just start working it out on the board til I get it straightened out, then I put the report out.  It still is just a rambling bunch of names but it is out there so everyone has the names.  then if someone finds a match, they know what line and familiy it goes with. 

[Blink34]

I swear, I had it clear as a bell -- duh!
ok lawless folks used gomes back and forth with Marilyn aka short and lawless and gomes i.e. timothy lawless/gomes/gary duane lawless/gomes, jeffrey carl lawless/gomes.
Ian Gomes is the grandson of Betty Lawless Johnson x-wife of Birdette Lawless, who is brother of George W. Lawless (ekekeke) who ______ to John Lawless who is the cousin of Clifford Lane Lawless.  Katherine Gomes is the mother of Ian Gomes.
Does that make sense?  If not, please delete my post.

Ok, that finally stuck withe me, but I am still missing how we know the Katherine Gomes in the article murdered by her son Gary Gomes, is this same woman.

Lol, I am reading back wards before I dare ask a question as you guys are working so hard, I dont want to bust the groove. I am still working on TX, but if I cant get there Im gonna just throw it out and either we can confirm it or discount it.
B

[Sister]

Blink, the article said Katherine was the mother and I went from Katherine to Gary Lawless/Gomes/Lawless/Gomes to Ian Gomes/Lawless, etc.

DD, tomorrow I will look again -- I'm pretty sure there in a John that is a cousin to CLL because John "Mack" would have been his uncle, right?

I gotta go to bed -- happy hunting!!!! I'll probably dream about my long long cousin or something 

[Blink34]

DD, your is so logical
mine is so . . . confusing might be a nice word.
I can't find all the info yet.  Maybe Blink will just delete my post and I will learn to keep my typing keys to myself.
Nite.

no, you keep brainstorming and tossing stuff out here, this is what makes us think and start finding things to look for.  I can follow you fine.  when we get lost with trying to understand what the other persons are doing or saying, then we just need to ask and sort through it til we get it LOL.  I am quite sure no one is understanding 90% of what I am saying    but i get on a line and just start working it out on the board til I get it straightened out, then I put the report out.  It still is just a rambling bunch of names but it is out there so everyone has the names.  then if someone finds a match, they know what line and familiy it goes with. 

Sister-
DD is exactly right, its the only way. please dont be hard on yourself you guys are doing amazing research. I have a feeling and if I understand where you monkeys are, are answers are in the Ronald Sutton Lawless/Gary D Lawless/Elaine B. Lawless line
B

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I swear, I had it clear as a bell -- duh!
ok lawless folks used gomes back and forth with Marilyn aka short and lawless and gomes i.e. timothy lawless/gomes/gary duane lawless/gomes, jeffrey carl lawless/gomes.
Ian Gomes is the grandson of Betty Lawless Johnson x-wife of Birdette Lawless, who is brother of George W. Lawless (ekekeke) who ______ to John Lawless who is the cousin of Clifford Lane Lawless.  Katherine Gomes is the mother of Ian Gomes.
Does that make sense?  If not, please delete my post.

Ok, that finally stuck withe me, but I am still missing how we know the Katherine Gomes in the article murdered by her son Gary Gomes, is this same woman.

Lol, I am reading back wards before I dare ask a question as you guys are working so hard, I dont want to bust the groove. I am still working on TX, but if I cant get there Im gonna just throw it out and either we can confirm it or discount it.
B

throw the texas stuff out here blink, I can help.  I don't mind.  no one is bothering what I am doing.  I have files with tons of info I can search through to see if there are any matches for you. 

[Sister]

oh, cow pucks -- it's the Luanne connection too.  I remember she has more names than blades of grass in my backyard.  Tomorrow, tomorrow (I'm singing here).  Now, I'll be cutting grass in my dreams

[doubledecker]

DD, your is so logical
mine is so . . . confusing might be a nice word.
I can't find all the info yet.  Maybe Blink will just delete my post and I will learn to keep my typing keys to myself.
Nite.

no, you keep brainstorming and tossing stuff out here, this is what makes us think and start finding things to look for.  I can follow you fine.  when we get lost with trying to understand what the other persons are doing or saying, then we just need to ask and sort through it til we get it LOL.  I am quite sure no one is understanding 90% of what I am saying    but i get on a line and just start working it out on the board til I get it straightened out, then I put the report out.  It still is just a rambling bunch of names but it is out there so everyone has the names.  then if someone finds a match, they know what line and familiy it goes with. 

Sister-
DD is exactly right, its the only way. please dont be hard on yourself you guys are doing amazing research. I have a feeling and if I understand where you monkeys are, are answers are in the Ronald Sutton Lawless/Gary D Lawless/Elaine B. Lawless line
B

yes I believe 100000000% that gary d lawless the missing father is in the ronald sutton lawless line.  and I will get back to that line again.  somehow I got off on the gary grandson at the reunion and it took all day to figure out that GARY is not the son of carl everett ganzan, but I have his two sisters to go through still ugh...

but will take a break from that right now, as I have carl everett ganzan famliy done. 

do you need me to look up something on your texas line? 

[Sister]

Gary D. Lawless
http://preview.ussearch.com/preview/ala/newsearch?
Gary D Lawless
Gary Gomes
Gary Lawless
Garye Lawless
Garye D Lawless
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Manton, CA
Corning , CA
Gerber , CA
Borden , IN
Relative: Timothy J Lawless