The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection

[Tracygirl]

I need guidence on what to say and what not to say. 

[doubledecker]

I need guidence on what to say and what not to say. 

oh, hmm, well I am not the one to ask for that? 

[doubledecker]

hmmm in the article they say Lawless has a ranch in oregon, then johnny huckaby says the AUNT.  so joni is melissa's aunt, but she is now a hughes.  supposedly CLL has one brother and no sisters, so who is the lawless aunt? do they mean his daughter's aunt? that would be the sister of melissa, who is she married to? she would not be a lawless if married so then it would not be a lawless ranch.  who are they talking about?  does cll have a sister we don't know about? but she would not be a lawless either, she would have a married name. 

hmmm weird

[Sister]

a little humor here:  I'm searching way back in the records and it finally sunk in what I was reading on those old census,
Blind:

Deaf and dumb:

Otherwise disabled:

Idiotic or insane: View Image
Idiotic or insane -- that's about the way I feel right now and viewing the image wouldn't be pretty -- my eyes are crossed -- still looking for that darn article about Luanne/Gerald/Ian.

[doubledecker]

gee I am falling asleep, have to go sleep, ugh. tomorrow I will finish trying to find the ronald lawless line with these doyle names I got today.  I have been looking all over for them but not finding them ugh.  And tomorrow I will also try to find more about luanne and gerald "gerry" D lawless.  they also lived in whittier where melissa had lived. 

[Sister]

hmmm in the article they say Lawless has a ranch in oregon, then johnny huckaby says the AUNT.  so joni is melissa's aunt, but she is now a hughes.  supposedly CLL has one brother and no sisters, so who is the lawless aunt? do they mean his daughter's aunt? that would be the sister of melissa, who is she married to? she would not be a lawless if married so then it would not be a lawless ranch.  who are they talking about?  does cll have a sister we don't know about? but she would not be a lawless either, she would have a married name. 

hmmm weird

Did Melissa's brother Brent get married? Then the child would call them uncle/aunt.  I guees.  Good night to you too DD.

[Tracygirl]

I forgot the link....This is the story I was referring to. it is mentioned MH mother took the dd to a relatives ranch in Grants Pass oregon and MH once threatend to take the girl to Oregon and  disapear. What is the Oregon connection? MH mother is the inlaw, right? I wonder if it is her relative or MH fathers relative. TL has an aunt that lives in Grants pass, they own the roofing company. Is that  the connection? Who is she?

http://www.tracypress.com/pages/full_story?article-Huckaby%20swallowed%20razor%20blades%20in%20suicide%20try-%20ex-husband%20says%20=&page_label=home&id=2594324-Huckaby+swallowed+razor+blades+in+suicide+try-+ex-husband+says&widget=push&instance=home_news_lead_story&open=&


Huckaby swallowed razor blades in suicide try, ex-husband says
by Jennifer WadsworthMay 20, 2009 | 452 views | 3  | 7  |  |  The ex-husband of the woman accused of the rape and murder of an 8-year-old Tracy girl said in court filings that the suspect swallowed three razor blades in an attempt to kill herself before her April 10 arrest.

Anonymous sources have mentioned the suicide attempt of Melissa Chantel Huckaby before, but the statement filed in the Orange County Superior Court last month marks the first time someone publicly connected the 28-year-old to that allegation.

Huckaby even told the Tracy Press hours before her arrest that she was hospitalized for “internal bleeding,” but refused to elaborate.

Johnny Huckaby — who married Melissa Huckaby in 2005 before their divorce a year later — told a judge that she also forged her mother’s signature on divorce papers. And he said she lied when she accused him in divorce papers of physically abusing her and using drugs.

The allegations came up during an April 20 hearing over whether Johnny Huckaby or his former mother-in-law Judy Lawless should get custody of Melissa’s 5-year-old daughter, Madison Taylor Huckaby.

Johnny Huckaby argued that the horrific charges that sent his ex-wife to jail should entitle him to win custody of Madison. Orange County Commissioner Walter Posey granted his request last month, but reversed that decision after Lawless begged him to let her keep the sickly child at her home in Cypress.

A custody hearing earlier this week was postponed until July 6.

Lawless accused Johnny Huckaby of being a deadbeat dad. She said he lives 1,700 miles away in just outside Little Rock, Ark., and never tried to contact his daughter.

“There were also issues of drugs, alcohol and possibly domestic violence in this case,” she said in an April 22 court declaration. From the time Madison was 1-year-old up to now, she has had virtually no contact with her father, Lawless said.

“I do not believe it is in our granddaughter’s best interests to be placed with somebody she does not know.”

She said that after the media frenzy that followed her daughter Melissa Huckaby’s arrest on charges that she raped and killed 8-year-old Sandra Cantu, Lawless took Madison to a relative’s house in Grants Pass, Ore., to protect her from the chaos in Tracy.

Johnny Huckaby called Lawless on her cell phone to find out where she had taken his daughter. He asked if Madison had seen horses that day, and Lawless said that she had, “indicating that Madison and she were still in Oregon,” Johnny Huckaby said in court filings. Sources have said the Lawless family has a ranch in Oregon.

He didn’t tell Lawless at the time that a judge had already signed papers granting him legal custody of his daughter. But when he flew to Oregon and showed up at the aunt’s house on April 19, Lawless and Madison had already flown back to Cypress.

“What the hell are you doing?” he said he asked Lawless once he got her on the phone again.

“I can’t believe that you are doing this to your daughter,” she responded, according to Johnny Huckaby.

He said he accused Lawless of lying to him about Madison’s whereabouts and that she replied, “I didn’t want anyone to know where she was.”

Over the past couple of years, Johnny Huckaby said he has tried several times to get in touch with his daughter. But Lawless told him that if he tried to see Madison, she would whisk her away to Oregon and “disappear,” he added.

Further, she would tell Madison that she was conceived through artificial insemination, Johnny Huckaby said, “indicating to me that she didn’t want Madison to know that I existed.”

But, he continued, he’s a very stable father, is married, has a 5-year-old stepson, a 1-year-old daughter and a steady job back home in Arkansas.

Johnny Huckaby married Melissa Huckaby just a week after she filed for bankruptcy, records show. At the time, she was five months pregnant with Madison.

Lawless and Johnny Huckaby could not be reached for comment. Their attorneys declined to say anything about the case.

Melissa Huckaby, who has yet to enter a plea, is due back in court at 1 p.m. Friday for further arraignment.

Police arrested her four days after they found Sandra’s body stuffed in a suitcase submerged in a dairy lagoon north of Tracy. She had been missing for 10 days. Sandra used to play with Madison at the Tracy Orchard Estates Mobile Home Park on Clover Road, where the two of them lived.

Madison’s father told ABC’s Good Morning America last month that the little girl was unaware of her mom’s situation.

Melissa Huckaby faces charges of murder with special circumstances for rape with a foreign object, committing lewd and lascivious acts on a child and kidnapping. If convicted, she could face the death penalty.

•Contact Tracy Press reporter Jennifer Wadsworth at 830-4225 or jwadsworth@tracypress.com.

[4getUnot]

Hi Tracy!!! Are you still hereeee???

[Tracygirl]

Yep I'm here

[4getUnot]

Good to see you.  I was reading the article you just posted several times. LOL  Trying to figure out who the relative is.???

[Tracygirl]

I'm bouncing around the forum tonight. Trying to get caught up on all the threads I follow. today I spent time in Victoria Staffords thread. Poor little girl. She was taken 2 days after we found Sandra's body, now they are looking for hers..Sad, sad day.

[Tracygirl]

Good to see you.  I was reading the article you just posted several times. LOL  Trying to figure out who the relative is.???

I can't find the post about Grants pass, that is what I am looking for. There was photos of the cemetary  and the roofing company, what is it, national roof corp? No that is the tracy roofing company. What is the name of the roofing company in Oregon that TL's family owns, they have one in Redding.

[4getUnot]

I think I'll search back and see who we have in Grants Pass, Or.  You know it kinda sickens me to think that Melissa may have been using her own child to lure other children.  The way they hid her out so fast - I believe even before Melissa was arrested.  Makes you wonder what is going on.  I believe the authorities should at least check on the child to make sure she is safe and nothing has been done to her. Know what I mean????

[4getUnot]

Good to see you.  I was reading the article you just posted several times. LOL  Trying to figure out who the relative is.???

I can't find the post about Grants pass, that is what I am looking for. There was photos of the cemetary  and the roofing company, what is it, national roof corp? No that is the tracy roofing company. What is the name of the roofing company in Oregon that TL's family owns, they have one in Redding.

One of them I think is Lawless Roofing and the other is National Roofing.

[Tracygirl]

Good to see you.  I was reading the article you just posted several times. LOL  Trying to figure out who the relative is.???

I can't find the post about Grants pass, that is what I am looking for. There was photos of the cemetary  and the roofing company, what is it, national roof corp? No that is the tracy roofing company. What is the name of the roofing company in Oregon that TL's family owns, they have one in Redding.

One of them I think is Lawless Roofing and the other is National Roofing.

LOL Dah, lawless roofing, nothing gets by me! I know I read that TL has an aunt that lives in Grants pass, I believe this is who owns the roofing company. Here is the website.....

http://www.heatingequipmentcleaningrepair.info/lawless-heating-air-sheet-metal/1753/

Funny because it is not roofing it is heating and air, that is what CLL son line of work is.

[4getUnot]

Good to see you.  I was reading the article you just posted several times. LOL  Trying to figure out who the relative is.???

I can't find the post about Grants pass, that is what I am looking for. There was photos of the cemetary  and the roofing company, what is it, national roof corp? No that is the tracy roofing company. What is the name of the roofing company in Oregon that TL's family owns, they have one in Redding.

One of them I think is Lawless Roofing and the other is National Roofing.

LOL Dah, lawless roofing, nothing gets by me! I know I read that TL has an aunt that lives in Grants pass, I believe this is who owns the roofing company. Here is the website.....

http://www.heatingequipmentcleaningrepair.info/lawless-heating-air-sheet-metal/1753/

Funny because it is not roofing it is heating and air, that is what CLL son line of work is.

Well remember one of them was across the street from that place that looked like a cemetery!!  I remember you talking about it Right???!!!

[4getUnot]

Good to see you.  I was reading the article you just posted several times. LOL  Trying to figure out who the relative is.???

I can't find the post about Grants pass, that is what I am looking for. There was photos of the cemetary  and the roofing company, what is it, national roof corp? No that is the tracy roofing company. What is the name of the roofing company in Oregon that TL's family owns, they have one in Redding.

One of them I think is Lawless Roofing and the other is National Roofing.

LOL Dah, lawless roofing, nothing gets by me! I know I read that TL has an aunt that lives in Grants pass, I believe this is who owns the roofing company. Here is the website.....

http://www.heatingequipmentcleaningrepair.info/lawless-heating-air-sheet-metal/1753/

Funny because it is not roofing it is heating and air, that is what CLL son line of work is.

And CLLs son is married to Judy who took the little one to Oregon.

[Tracygirl]

http://www.agc-oregon.org/cgi-bin/AGC/MEMBERSHIPDIR/MEMBER.cgi/default.htm?view_records=1&sb=4&so=ascend&Code=07000&nh=1

Lawless Roofing, Inc
Work Type Listing: Roofing Contractors - 07000
 
 
 PO Box 1778
Grants Pass, OR 97528
(541) 479-1839
FAX: (541) 479-9547
Contact:
Lewis Lawless
Donald T Lawless 

Didn't someone marry someone called Lucky louie or whatever?

Link for contractors license.
https://ccbed.ccb.state.or.us/ccb_frames/consumer_info/business_detail.asp?license_number=39174
Associated people listed
PRESENT
- Corporate Officer LAWLESS, DONALD
- Corporate Officer LAWLESS, LEWIS
PAST   
- Previous Name BURNS, ROBERT
- Previous Name LAWLESS, LLOYD
   

[Tracygirl]

Good to see you.  I was reading the article you just posted several times. LOL  Trying to figure out who the relative is.???

I can't find the post about Grants pass, that is what I am looking for. There was photos of the cemetary  and the roofing company, what is it, national roof corp? No that is the tracy roofing company. What is the name of the roofing company in Oregon that TL's family owns, they have one in Redding.

One of them I think is Lawless Roofing and the other is National Roofing.

LOL Dah, lawless roofing, nothing gets by me! I know I read that TL has an aunt that lives in Grants pass, I believe this is who owns the roofing company. Here is the website.....

http://www.heatingequipmentcleaningrepair.info/lawless-heating-air-sheet-metal/1753/

Funny because it is not roofing it is heating and air, that is what CLL son line of work is.

Well remember one of them was across the street from that place that looked like a cemetery!!  I remember you talking about it Right???!!!

It is a cemetary, Tokay heights cemetary.

[Tracygirl]

I am not the one to keep this stuff straight. I get my chldren's names mixed up! do you remember seeing any of the names listed on the lawless roofing contractors license on the CLL line?

Uggg this is confusing to me.