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« Reply #300 on: April 29, 2009, 05:50:08 PM »

I am wondering if gary d lawless, father of record for timothy john lawless, changed his name? LOL

I'm tracking down john son of richard birdette now, he is another weird one.  he is the brother of gerry/jerry/gerald married to luanne. 

why would the paper say he married luanne campbell, when she is nowhere under that name? 

I'll try to help figure that out too.  gee

quoting myself but just had a thought...what if, gerry is gary? let me try to match dates.  maybe these two brothers have reason to leave? change names, their stepfather was donald lafayette johnson.  were they living over by clarkston/lewiston at any time? 

let me try to compare dates
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« Reply #301 on: April 29, 2009, 06:04:36 PM »

I am wondering if gary d lawless, father of record for timothy john lawless, changed his name? LOL

I'm tracking down john son of richard birdette now, he is another weird one.  he is the brother of gerry/jerry/gerald married to luanne. 

why would the paper say he married luanne campbell, when she is nowhere under that name? 

I'll try to help figure that out too.  gee

quoting myself but just had a thought...what if, gerry is gary? let me try to match dates.  maybe these two brothers have reason to leave? change names, their stepfather was donald lafayette johnson.  were they living over by clarkston/lewiston at any time? 

let me try to compare dates

Good thought - D for Donald?.  John really puzzled me as he was such an athlete in High School.  I would assume he would be on some team at BYU.  Nada.  And he vanishes. 
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« Reply #302 on: April 29, 2009, 06:23:37 PM »

Does anyone have a DOB for our Gary D Lawless?
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« Reply #303 on: April 29, 2009, 06:32:32 PM »

I think it is 07/1932
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« Reply #304 on: April 29, 2009, 06:41:36 PM »

I think it is 07/1932
Thanks.  Wrong one.  I found a Gary David Lawless B:8 Jun 1965.
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« Reply #305 on: April 29, 2009, 07:14:15 PM »

I wonder  if there is a father and son Gary D. Lawless.  If so the dates you have would work.
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« Reply #306 on: April 29, 2009, 07:15:25 PM »

I am wondering if gary d lawless, father of record for timothy john lawless, changed his name? LOL

I'm tracking down john son of richard birdette now, he is another weird one.  he is the brother of gerry/jerry/gerald married to luanne. 

why would the paper say he married luanne campbell, when she is nowhere under that name? 

I'll try to help figure that out too.  gee

quoting myself but just had a thought...what if, gerry is gary? let me try to match dates.  maybe these two brothers have reason to leave? change names, their stepfather was donald lafayette johnson.  were they living over by clarkston/lewiston at any time? 

let me try to compare dates

Good thought - D for Donald?.  John really puzzled me as he was such an athlete in High School.  I would assume he would be on some team at BYU.  Nada.  And he vanishes. 

well the older john mack lawless is almost as weird also... he does die in los angeles.

because he goes to cali, I am wondering if he could be related to the gary d lawless?

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« Reply #307 on: April 29, 2009, 07:22:21 PM »

I wonder  if there is a father and son Gary D. Lawless.  If so the dates you have would work.

yes there is a father and son Gary D lawless.  this is the main person I am looking for. Timothy John Lawless has a brother Gary Duane Lawless.  The father of record is Gary D Lawless.  He married their mother in Napa Ca.  I cannot for the life of me figure out where he comes from, nor where he goes.  He is listed as the father of the 3 boys.  he marries their mother after they are born, but they are named lawless.  they divorce one month after they marry.  I can then find the boys and the mother moving all over california and in and out of jail.  The mother also is arrested in Butte county for battery with one of her boys against Gary D Lawless, but I can't tell if it is the son or the father.  Also Gary D lawless is arrested there as well for failure to register as a sex offender, again no birthdate on the records.  However, in the court records it states they think he might be in the Alameda county jail in cali.  There is a gary lawless in the alameda jail around that time for a drug deal gone bad/murder.  He then beats the murder charge and should have been released this year.  but the age is off.  he is not the father.  but he might be the son with the date off the age at the time in the news.

So I have been trying to find this father Gary D lawless.  I am wondering if he is from the Lawless famlies up in Washington.  If so, he could be related to Clifford Lane Lawless.  This is my whole reason for looking into all the famliy genealogy in the first place LOL
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« Reply #308 on: April 29, 2009, 07:27:09 PM »

Does anyone have a DOB for our Gary D Lawless?

everything should be in the first posts I posted on here let me get them
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« Reply #309 on: April 29, 2009, 07:29:41 PM »

pages 1 & 2 of this thread has most all of the info on it for the father gary d lawless, his wife, and the 3 boys.
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« Reply #310 on: April 29, 2009, 07:30:39 PM »

Iím just pulling this one out by itself(from above) so it is easy to reference

failing to register as a sex offender charge for gary d lawless

the PC 290 is failer to register as a sex offender.

butte county ca
PEOPLE vs. LAWLESS, GARY
CRIMINAL
06/13/02
12/17/02

01 COM Misdemeanor (A)290(g)(1) PC FAILURE TO REGISTER

Plea: NC
Plea Date: 12/17/02
Disposition: 12/17/02
CONVICTED ON PLEA OF NOLO
Sentence: 12/17/02
FORMAL PROBN 36 MTHS; JAIL 30 DAYS;
11590 H&S; SRCH

I'm just pulling this one out by itself(from above) so it is easy to reference

failing to register as a sex offender charge for gary d lawless

the PC 290 is failer to register as a sex offender.


butte county ca
PEOPLE vs. LAWLESS, GARY
CRIMINAL
06/13/02
12/17/02

01   COM   Misdemeanor (A)290(g)(1)    PC   FAILURE TO REGISTER
      
   Plea:   NC
   Plea Date:   12/17/02
   Disposition:   12/17/02
      CONVICTED ON PLEA OF NOLO
   Sentence:   12/17/02
      FORMAL PROBN 36 MTHS; JAIL 30 DAYS;
      11590 H&S; SRCH

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« Reply #311 on: April 29, 2009, 07:30:57 PM »

Brother of Timothy Lawless

Case Information Case Number: NCR79526 butte county, ca
Case Title: PEOPLE vs. LAWLESS, JEFFREY CARL
Case Type: D.U.I.
Filing Date: 06/29/98
Disposition Date: 12/03/98
CONVICTED ON PLEA OF NOLO & SENTENCED

Parties Name Type Attorney
LAWLESS, JEFFREY CARL DEFENDANT VANDERVOORT, J JOSEPH
Charges Count Filing Document Degree Charge
00 CIT ASF ADMIN SCREENING FEE

Plea:
Plea Date:
Disposition:

Sentence:

00 CIT Misdemeanor (A) 1202.4 PC RESTITUTION FINE

Plea:
Plea Date:
Disposition:

Sentence:

00 Misdemeanor (A) 1214.1(a) PC CIVIL ASSESSMENTS

Plea:
Plea Date:
Disposition:

Sentence:

01 CIT Misdemeanor (C) 23152(a) CVC DRIVING UNDER INFLUENCE OF ALCOHOL/DRUGS

Plea: NG
Plea Date: 08/04/98
Disposition: 12/03/98
CONVICTED ON PLEA OF NOLO
Sentence: 12/03/98
SUMMARY PROBN 36 MO;48 HRS BCJ-REPORT
1-8-99 8PM;$1248+$100+$24+$35 IN MONTHLY
PMTS OF $75;LEVEL I DUI SCHOOL
02 CIT Infraction (T) 16028)(a) CVC NO INSURANCE

Plea: NG
Plea Date: 08/04/98
Disposition: 12/03/98
DISMISSED
Sentence:

03 CIT Infraction (T) 21657 CVC ONE-WAY TRAFFIC AND OFF-CENTER LANES

Plea: NG
Plea Date: 08/04/98
Disposition: 12/03/98
DISMISSED
Sentence:

04 CIT Infraction (T) 14601.1(a) CVC DRIVING WHILE SUSPENDED OR REVOKED

Plea: NG
Plea Date: 08/04/98
Disposition: 12/03/98
DISMISSED
Sentence:

Actions Date Action Description
03/07/00 ABST TO DMV - FTP (DE3) LICENSE SUSPENDED
02/14/00 NTC: CIVIL ASSESSMENT ADDED-NO ADDRESS
$1433
01/13/00 NTC: TICKLER: 10-DAY NOTICE
$750 APRIL-JANí00 PMTS
01/06/00 NTC: TICKLER: 10-DAY NOTICE
$750 APRIL-JANí00 PMTS
01/26/99 ABST TO DMV - CONVICTION (DE1)
09/08/98 MOTION TO WITHDRAW AS ATTORNEY OF RECORD
08/04/98 WAIVER OF DEFTíS PERSONAL PRESENCE 977 PC
08/04/98 STIPULATION FOR COMMISSIONER TO SIT AS
JUDGE PRO TEM
06/29/98 CITATION FILED BY CPD 98-4576 OFFICER 1295
06/29/98 O/R AGREEMENT SIGNED BY DEFT

Events Date Time Event Description Dept Code Department/Judge
12/03/98 13:30 DISPOSITION SETTING

Disposition Date: 12/03/98
PLED NOLO; WAIVED TIME, SENTENCED CSM HON. STEVEN R MCNELIS, ASSIGNED JUDGE
10/22/98 13:00 DISPOSITION/SETTING
DEFT ORDERED PERSONALLY PRESENT

Disposition Date: 10/22/98
CONT FOR DISPO SET CSM HON. STEVEN R MCNELIS, ASSIGNED JUDGE
09/28/98 08:00 JURY TRIAL - MUNI CT CRIM/TRAFFIC

Disposition Date: 09/24/98
VACATED C11 HON WILLIAM O SCOTT; COMMISSIONER
09/24/98 13:00 TRIAL READINESS
AND MOTION TO W/DRAW AS ATTY OF RECORD
JT SET FOR 9-28-98

Disposition Date: 09/24/98
TRIAL DATE VACATED; CONT FOR SETTING CSM HON. STEVEN R MCNELIS, ASSIGNED JUDGE
09/24/98 00:00 MTN: TO WITHDRAW AS ATTORNEY OF RECORD

Disposition Date: 09/24/98
WITHDRAWN CSM HON. STEVEN R MCNELIS, ASSIGNED JUDGE
08/27/98 10:00 PRETRIAL CONFERENCE

Disposition Date: 08/27/98
TRIAL DATE SET C06 HON DARRELL STEVENS; JUDGE
08/04/98 08:30 ARRAIGNMENT

Disposition Date: 08/04/98
PLED NOT GLTY BY ATTY;T/W;SET FOR P/T

Case Information Case Number:   NCR79526 butte county, ca
Case Title:   PEOPLE vs. LAWLESS, JEFFREY CARL
Case Type:   D.U.I.
Filing Date:   06/29/98
Disposition Date:   12/03/98
   CONVICTED ON PLEA OF NOLO & SENTENCED
 
Parties Name   Type   Attorney
LAWLESS, JEFFREY CARL    DEFENDANT    VANDERVOORT, J JOSEPH
   Charges    Count   Filing Document   Degree   Charge   
   00   CIT      ASF       ADMIN SCREENING FEE   
                  
      Plea:            
      Plea Date:            
      Disposition:            
                  
      Sentence:            
                  
                  
                  
   00   CIT   Misdemeanor (A)   1202.4    PC   RESTITUTION FINE   
                  
      Plea:            
      Plea Date:            
      Disposition:            
                  
      Sentence:            
                  
                  
                  
   00      Misdemeanor (A)   1214.1(a)    PC   CIVIL ASSESSMENTS   
                  
      Plea:            
      Plea Date:            
      Disposition:            
                  
      Sentence:            
                  
                  
                  
   01   CIT   Misdemeanor (C)   23152(a)    CVC   DRIVING UNDER INFLUENCE OF ALCOHOL/DRUGS   
                  
      Plea:   NG         
      Plea Date:   08/04/98         
      Disposition:   12/03/98         
         CONVICTED ON PLEA OF NOLO          
      Sentence:   12/03/98         
         SUMMARY PROBN 36 MO;48 HRS BCJ-REPORT         
         1-8-99 8PM;$1248+$100+$24+$35 IN MONTHLY         
         PMTS OF $75;LEVEL I DUI SCHOOL         
   02   CIT   Infraction (T)   16028)(a)    CVC   NO INSURANCE   
                  
      Plea:   NG         
      Plea Date:   08/04/98         
      Disposition:   12/03/98         
         DISMISSED          
      Sentence:            
                  
                  
                  
   03   CIT   Infraction (T)   21657    CVC   ONE-WAY TRAFFIC AND OFF-CENTER LANES   
                  
      Plea:   NG         
      Plea Date:   08/04/98         
      Disposition:   12/03/98         
         DISMISSED          
      Sentence:            
                  
                  
                  
   04   CIT   Infraction (T)   14601.1(a)    CVC   DRIVING WHILE SUSPENDED OR REVOKED   
                  
      Plea:   NG         
      Plea Date:   08/04/98         
      Disposition:   12/03/98         
         DISMISSED          
      Sentence:            
                  
                  
                  
 
Actions Date   Action Description
03/07/00   ABST TO DMV - FTP (DE3) LICENSE SUSPENDED
02/14/00   NTC: CIVIL ASSESSMENT ADDED-NO ADDRESS
  $1433
01/13/00   NTC: TICKLER: 10-DAY NOTICE
  $750 APRIL-JAN'00 PMTS
01/06/00   NTC: TICKLER: 10-DAY NOTICE
  $750 APRIL-JAN'00 PMTS
01/26/99   ABST TO DMV - CONVICTION (DE1)
09/08/98   MOTION TO WITHDRAW AS ATTORNEY OF RECORD
08/04/98   WAIVER OF DEFT'S PERSONAL PRESENCE 977 PC
08/04/98   STIPULATION FOR COMMISSIONER TO SIT AS
  JUDGE PRO TEM
06/29/98   CITATION FILED BY CPD 98-4576 OFFICER 1295
06/29/98   O/R AGREEMENT SIGNED BY DEFT
 
Events Date   Time   Event Description   Dept Code   Department/Judge
12/03/98   13:30   DISPOSITION SETTING

Disposition Date: 12/03/98
PLED NOLO; WAIVED TIME, SENTENCED   CSM   HON. STEVEN R MCNELIS, ASSIGNED JUDGE
10/22/98   13:00   DISPOSITION/SETTING
  DEFT ORDERED PERSONALLY PRESENT

Disposition Date: 10/22/98
CONT FOR DISPO SET   CSM   HON. STEVEN R MCNELIS, ASSIGNED JUDGE
09/28/98   08:00   JURY TRIAL - MUNI CT CRIM/TRAFFIC

Disposition Date: 09/24/98
VACATED   C11   HON WILLIAM O SCOTT; COMMISSIONER
09/24/98   13:00   TRIAL READINESS
  AND MOTION TO W/DRAW AS ATTY OF RECORD
  JT SET FOR 9-28-98

Disposition Date: 09/24/98
TRIAL DATE VACATED; CONT FOR SETTING   CSM   HON. STEVEN R MCNELIS, ASSIGNED JUDGE
09/24/98   00:00   MTN: TO WITHDRAW AS ATTORNEY OF RECORD

Disposition Date: 09/24/98
WITHDRAWN   CSM   HON. STEVEN R MCNELIS, ASSIGNED JUDGE
08/27/98   10:00   PRETRIAL CONFERENCE

Disposition Date: 08/27/98
TRIAL DATE SET   C06   HON DARRELL STEVENS; JUDGE
08/04/98   08:30   ARRAIGNMENT

Disposition Date: 08/04/98
PLED NOT GLTY BY ATTY;T/W;SET FOR P/T


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Submitted on 2009/04/27 at 4:12pm
Case Information Case Number: NT016910 butte county, ca
Case Title: PEOPLE vs. LAWLESS, JEFFREY
Case Type: REGISTRATION
Filing Date: 09/30/97
Disposition Date: 07/24/98
BAIL PAID/FORFEIT AFTER FTA - CONV

Parties Name Type Attorney
LAWLESS, JEFFREY DEFENDANT
Charges Count Filing Document Degree Charge
01 CIT Infraction (T) 4000(a) CVC REGISTRATION REQUIRED

Plea:
Plea Date:
Disposition: 07/24/98
BAIL PAID/FORFEITED (CONVICTION)
Sentence:

02 CIT Infraction (T) 26708(a) CVC RESTRICTED VIEW - SIGN, STICKERS, ETC.

Plea:
Plea Date:
Disposition: 07/24/98
BAIL PAID/FORFEITED (CONVICTION)
Sentence:

Actions Date Action Description
06/29/98 RELEASE TO DMV - FTA (DE2)
PIF GCSV/ALHAMBRA 5-28-98 CK
04/01/98 ABST TO DMV - FTA (DE5) LICENSE HOLD

Events Date Time Event Description Dept Code Department/Judge
10/29/97 08:00 TRAFFIC ARRAIGNMENT - APPEAR/POST BAIL
BAIL + FTA AMT = $389 AS OF 11/26/97

Disposition Date: 03/26/98
REFERRED TO GC SERVICES

Case Information Case Number:   NT016910  butte county, ca
Case Title:   PEOPLE vs. LAWLESS, JEFFREY
Case Type:   REGISTRATION
Filing Date:   09/30/97
Disposition Date:   07/24/98
   BAIL PAID/FORFEIT AFTER FTA - CONV
 
Parties Name   Type   Attorney
LAWLESS, JEFFREY    DEFENDANT    
   Charges    Count   Filing Document   Degree   Charge   
   01   CIT   Infraction (T)   4000(a)    CVC   REGISTRATION REQUIRED   
                  
      Plea:            
      Plea Date:            
      Disposition:   07/24/98         
         BAIL PAID/FORFEITED (CONVICTION)          
      Sentence:            
                  
                  
                  
   02   CIT   Infraction (T)   26708(a)    CVC   RESTRICTED VIEW - SIGN, STICKERS, ETC.   
                  
      Plea:            
      Plea Date:            
      Disposition:   07/24/98         
         BAIL PAID/FORFEITED (CONVICTION)          
      Sentence:            
                  
                  
                  
 
Actions Date   Action Description
06/29/98   RELEASE TO DMV - FTA (DE2)
  PIF GCSV/ALHAMBRA 5-28-98 CK
04/01/98   ABST TO DMV - FTA (DE5) LICENSE HOLD
 
Events Date   Time   Event Description   Dept Code   Department/Judge
10/29/97   08:00   TRAFFIC ARRAIGNMENT - APPEAR/POST BAIL
  BAIL + FTA AMT = $389 AS OF 11/26/97

Disposition Date: 03/26/98
REFERRED TO GC SERVICES
 

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« Reply #312 on: April 29, 2009, 07:31:21 PM »

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this is the mother and the two brothers, or the mother, one brother jeffrey Carl Lawless/ Gomes and the father.

father and one brother are both named gary d lawless.

mother is marylin, she would be over 70 yrs old now. seems must be some kind of family dispute. I know they are on a lot of land deeds back and forth, not sure what they were doing, but also a lot of tax liens.

I have many court docs for deeds, liens, child support, and arrests for traffic, duiís, drugs, warrants and top of warrants etc. and of course the one for gary d lawless(brother or father) for failing to register as a sex offender in 2002.

CASE NUMBER:
FL35509
CASE TITLE:
LAWLESS VS. GOMES
CASE DESCRIPTION:
***DOMESTIC VIOLENCE
FILING DATE:
03/17/1993
DISPOSITION DESCRIPTION:
DISMISSED
DISPOSITION DATE:
04/12/1993

PARTIES
PARTY NAME RELATIONSHIP ATTORNEY NAME

LAWLESS, GARY D.
PLAINTIFF PRO PER

GOMES, JEFF C.
DEFENDANT N/A

GOMES, MARILYN E.
DEFENDANT N/A

EVENTS
DATE TIME DESCRIPTION DISPOSITION

04/05/1993 1:45PM OSC RE: DOMESTIC VIOLENCE TRO CONT TO 04/12/93 BY COURT

04/12/1993 1:45PM OSC RE: DOMESTIC VIOLENCE TRO GRANTED

ACTIONS
DATE DESCRIPTION

03/17/1993 OSC & TRO RE: DOMESTIC VIOLENCE

03/29/1993 PROOF OF SERVICE

03/29/1993 PROOF OF SERVICE TO JEFF C. GOMES

this is the mother and the two brothers, or the mother, one brother jeffrey Carl Lawless/ Gomes and the father.

father and one brother are both named gary d lawless. 

mother is marylin, she would be over 70 yrs old now.  seems must be some kind of family dispute.  I know they are on a lot of land deeds back and forth, not sure what they were doing, but also a lot of tax liens. 

I have many court docs for deeds, liens, child support, and arrests for traffic, dui's, drugs, warrants and top of warrants etc.  and of course the one for gary d lawless(brother or father) for failing to register as a sex offender in 2002. 

CASE NUMBER:   
FL35509
CASE TITLE:   
LAWLESS  VS.  GOMES
CASE DESCRIPTION:   
***DOMESTIC VIOLENCE
FILING DATE:   
03/17/1993
DISPOSITION DESCRIPTION:   
DISMISSED
DISPOSITION DATE:   
04/12/1993

PARTIES
PARTY NAME   RELATIONSHIP   ATTORNEY NAME
 

LAWLESS, GARY D.
PLAINTIFF    PRO PER
 

GOMES, JEFF C.
DEFENDANT    N/A
 

GOMES, MARILYN E.
DEFENDANT    N/A
 


EVENTS
DATE   TIME   DESCRIPTION   DISPOSITION
 

04/05/1993    1:45PM    OSC RE: DOMESTIC VIOLENCE TRO    CONT TO 04/12/93 BY COURT
 

04/12/1993    1:45PM    OSC RE: DOMESTIC VIOLENCE TRO    GRANTED
 


ACTIONS
DATE   DESCRIPTION
 

03/17/1993    OSC & TRO RE: DOMESTIC VIOLENCE
 

03/29/1993    PROOF OF SERVICE
 

03/29/1993    PROOF OF SERVICE TO JEFF C. GOMES

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« Reply #313 on: April 29, 2009, 07:31:31 PM »

I do have more court docs & deeds for the family but nothing that is really going to tie anything to finding the FATHER gary d lawless.


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« Reply #314 on: April 29, 2009, 07:31:41 PM »

I am wondering if gary d lawless, father of record for timothy john lawless, changed his name? LOL

I'm tracking down john son of richard birdette now, he is another weird one.  he is the brother of gerry/jerry/gerald married to luanne. 

why would the paper say he married luanne campbell, when she is nowhere under that name? 

I'll try to help figure that out too.  gee

quoting myself but just had a thought...what if, gerry is gary? let me try to match dates.  maybe these two brothers have reason to leave? change names, their stepfather was donald lafayette johnson.  were they living over by clarkston/lewiston at any time? 

let me try to compare dates

Good thought - D for Donald?.  John really puzzled me as he was such an athlete in High School.  I would assume he would be on some team at BYU.  Nada.  And he vanishes. 

well the older john mack lawless is almost as weird also... he does die in los angeles.

because he goes to cali, I am wondering if he could be related to the gary d lawless?



Ancestry has a 1940 census subsitute up.  When you type in John Lawless and Location California, on about the third page is a John M Lawless living with a Helen A Lawless.  I can not see what city or the fiull details as I am not a member

http://www.ancestry.com/search/rectype/grouplist.aspx?group=1940census&cj=1&o_xid=0000865524&o_lid=0000865524
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« Reply #315 on: April 29, 2009, 07:32:19 PM »

Doubledecker - I bumped a few of those up.  What I did is "quoted" them and posted and it simply moved/copied them to this page.
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« Reply #316 on: April 29, 2009, 07:37:34 PM »

I wonder  if there is a father and son Gary D. Lawless.  If so the dates you have would work.

yes there is a father and son Gary D lawless.  this is the main person I am looking for. Timothy John Lawless has a brother Gary Duane Lawless.  The father of record is Gary D Lawless.  He married their mother in Napa Ca.  I cannot for the life of me figure out where he comes from, nor where he goes.  He is listed as the father of the 3 boys.  he marries their mother after they are born, but they are named lawless.  they divorce one month after they marry.  I can then find the boys and the mother moving all over california and in and out of jail.  The mother also is arrested in Butte county for battery with one of her boys against Gary D Lawless, but I can't tell if it is the son or the father.  Also Gary D lawless is arrested there as well for failure to register as a sex offender, again no birthdate on the records.  However, in the court records it states they think he might be in the Alameda county jail in cali.  There is a gary lawless in the alameda jail around that time for a drug deal gone bad/murder.  He then beats the murder charge and should have been released this year.  but the age is off.  he is not the father.  but he might be the son with the date off the age at the time in the news.

So I have been trying to find this father Gary D lawless.  I am wondering if he is from the Lawless famlies up in Washington.  If so, he could be related to Clifford Lane Lawless.  This is my whole reason for looking into all the famliy genealogy in the first place LOL

There is no death record for the son Gary D lawless? Is there a birth cert? Are their 2 ssi numbers on for each GDL? I am wondering if they made him up or he died as an infant? Do you think that is possible? 
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« Reply #317 on: April 29, 2009, 07:40:14 PM »

Although I haven't posted much in this case, I read and am so impressed with the research that has been done.  There are so many crazies in this case.....I cringe to even think how many others have been abused and possibly murdered by this group.....when the autopsy report was sealed my mind went crazy with wonder what this child might have gone through.  Thank goodness for all of you that can stick here...
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« Reply #318 on: April 29, 2009, 07:43:07 PM »

Doubledecker - I bumped a few of those up.  What I did is "quoted" them and posted and it simply moved/copied them to this page.

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here are the boys
Name: Timothy J Lawless
Birth Date: 11 Dec 1964
Gender: Male
Mother's Maiden Name: Tieken
Birth County: Glenn




brotherName: Gary D Lawless
Birth Date: 7 Apr 1966
Gender: Male
Mother's Maiden Name: Tieken
Birth County: Napa


brotherName: Jeffrey C Lawless
Birth Date: 21 Nov 1967
Gender: Male
Mother's Maiden Name: Tieken
Birth County: Napa

mother and father of timothy john lawless

Name: Marylin E Tieken
Age: 30
Est. Birth: abt 1938
Spouse Name: Gary D Lawless
Spouse Age: 35
Est. Spouse Birth: abt 1933
Date: 6 Jun 1968
Location: Napa

Name: Marylin E Tieken
Age: 36
Est. Birth: abt 1937
Spouse Name: Manuel Gomes
Spouse Age: 44
Est. Spouse Birth: abt 1929
Date: 30 Oct 1973
Location: Solano



mothers birth and mother's maiden name

Name: Marylin Elizabeth Tieken
Birth Date: 20 Mar 1937
Gender: Female
Mother's Maiden Name: Forman
Birth County: Napa

caifornia divorce
Name: Marylin E Ticken
Spouse Name: Gary D Lawless
Location: Napa
Date: Jul 1968



Mother is also married to Gary D Lawless using the last name of SHORT, on the very same day she married him under the last name if Tieken
I can't find a divorce with her under the name of short

Name: Gary D Lawless
Age: 35
Est. Birth: abt 1933
Spouse Name: Marylin E Short
Spouse Age: 30
Est. Spouse Birth: abt 1938
Date: 6 Jun 1968
Location: Napa


Mother then marries Manuel Gomes
Name: Marylin E Tieken
Age: 36
Est. Birth: abt 1937
Spouse Name: Manuel Gomes
Spouse Age: 44
Est. Spouse Birth: abt 1929
Date: 30 Oct 1973
Location: Solano

I found no divorce for mother and manuel gomes
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« Reply #319 on: April 29, 2009, 07:46:21 PM »

Who has this many people in their family? Sheesh! I don't know how you are all keeping track. I am lost but know I will be found soon. I can't wait to see the report!

Oh BTW, you should send these people a bill! Yikes you have worked hard on this! 
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