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« Reply #980 on: May 04, 2009, 04:47:08 PM »

Land deeds are in the county assessor-recorders office in Stockton. Sort of hard for me to get there. they have a link

 http://www.co.san-joaquin.ca.us/Recorder/grantorgrantee/searchindex.asp
Does this help?

I looked up all deeds online for san J county, but they give you nothing but the name of the grantor/grantee, you can't really tell what they are for.
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« Reply #981 on: May 04, 2009, 04:49:18 PM »

Cynthina Browning:

ECHEAGARAY, CYNTHIA G
BROWNING, CYNTHIA I
BROWNING, CYNTHIA L
BROWNING, C
(DOB: 08/1948)
(Age: 60) 

12819 193RD LN SE
RENTON, WA 98059-8756

(05/2004-Current) 425-228-1990

MUTSCHLER DAVID
(Current Listing Name)
 
812 TRINITY ST
MANTECA, CA 95336-5825
SAN JOAQUIN COUNTY
(11/2003-04/2009)
 

hmmm wasn't one of my tieken names from renton washington? 

trinity street haha, why does that not supprise me. 
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« Reply #982 on: May 04, 2009, 04:50:17 PM »

Cynthina Browning:

ECHEAGARAY, CYNTHIA G
BROWNING, CYNTHIA I
BROWNING, CYNTHIA L
BROWNING, C
(DOB: 08/1948)
(Age: 60) 

12819 193RD LN SE
RENTON, WA 98059-8756

(05/2004-Current) 425-228-1990

MUTSCHLER DAVID
(Current Listing Name)
 
812 TRINITY ST
MANTECA, CA 95336-5825
SAN JOAQUIN COUNTY
(11/2003-04/2009)
 

Why would a church be a corporation? Does that take away a non profit status? 

Not necessarily.  I can be registered as a 501(c)(3), but I haven't seen anything to suggest that's the case.  Plus, it's odd to have a for profit entity (the roofing business) as an "Associate" to the "church." IMHO
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« Reply #983 on: May 04, 2009, 04:50:26 PM »

Cynthina Browning:

ECHEAGARAY, CYNTHIA G
BROWNING, CYNTHIA I
BROWNING, CYNTHIA L
BROWNING, C
(DOB: 08/1948)
(Age: 60) 

12819 193RD LN SE
RENTON, WA 98059-8756

(05/2004-Current) 425-228-1990

MUTSCHLER DAVID
(Current Listing Name)
 
812 TRINITY ST
MANTECA, CA 95336-5825
SAN JOAQUIN COUNTY
(11/2003-04/2009)
 

Don't know if this means anything but I looked her up too in peoplefinders
http://www.peoplefinders.com/search/searchpreview.aspx?
13.  BROWNING, CYNTHIA  SHARP
Age: 56

Associated names:
BROWNING, CYNTHIA GAY
SHARP, CYNTHIA GAY

 PINOLE, CA
LOVELAND, CO
MARTINEZ, CA
FORT COLLINS, CO
BERKELEY, CA

  BROWNING, SHIRLEY  L (Age 60)
BROWNING, ROGER  WAYNE (Age 61)
BROWNING, MARK  ANTHONY (Age 39)
SHARP, DAVID (Age 80)
SHARP, SALLY  BETH (Age 50)
BROWNING, ROGER  W (Age 42)
BROWNING, SHERLY  L (Age 61)
SHARP, MARILYN  D94 (Age 70) <may be a long shot but could this be the marilyn we are looking for???

 
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« Reply #984 on: May 04, 2009, 04:52:00 PM »

CLOVER ROAD BAPTIST CHURCH
Manteca, CA
Tracy, CA   

BROWNING, CYNTHIA
(REGISTERED AGENT)

LAWLESS, LANE
(PRESIDENT)

associated businesses:
NATIONAL ROOF CORP

let me see if I can find out who owns the actual building and the land

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Monkeys, check out this information on National Roof Corp. (an associated business of the "church")--notice the address for the registered agent, and recall the search of the roof:

Corporation

NATIONAL ROOF CORP. 
Number: C1610328 
Date Filed: 4/1/1988 
Status: suspended 
Jurisdiction: California

Address 
812 CLOVER RD. #27
TRACY,, CA 95376 

Agent for Service of Process
JEFFREY L. OLSON 
812 CLOVER RD. #27 
TRACY,, CA 95376
 




And Clover Road Baptist Church is a California CORPORATION!  Who is Cynthia Browning?

Corporation

CLOVER ROAD BAPTIST CHURCH 
Number: C0365588
Date Filed: 12/22/1958
Status: active 
Jurisdiction: California

Address 
11000 W CLOVER RD
TRACY, CA 95376 

Agent for Service of Process

CYNTHIA BROWNING 
812 TRINITY ST 
MANTECA, CA 95336


http://kepler.sos.ca.gov/corpdata/ShowAllList?QueryCorpNumber=C0365588



she is the sister in law to CLL...
date filed 1958?  gee, now that is something?  who filed it way back then?
yes filing as a corp is not unusual, even for a church. 
they should have a board of about 5 members.  she will be one, so there should be about 4 more.  usually is about that many at least.
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« Reply #985 on: May 04, 2009, 04:53:22 PM »

CLOVER ROAD BAPTIST CHURCH
Manteca, CA
Tracy, CA   

BROWNING, CYNTHIA
(REGISTERED AGENT)

LAWLESS, LANE
(PRESIDENT)

associated businesses:
NATIONAL ROOF CORP

let me see if I can find out who owns the actual building and the land

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Monkeys, check out this information on National Roof Corp. (an associated business of the "church")--notice the address for the registered agent, and recall the search of the roof:

Corporation

NATIONAL ROOF CORP. 
Number: C1610328 
Date Filed: 4/1/1988 
Status: suspended 
Jurisdiction: California

Address 
812 CLOVER RD. #27
TRACY,, CA 95376 

Agent for Service of Process
JEFFREY L. OLSON 
812 CLOVER RD. #27 
TRACY,, CA 95376
 




okay also I remember CLL was a pastor in redding ca. (up where timothy and gary d lawless live) and also up there is a lawless roofing company,  I never had time to see if there are any connections, but maybe there is.  if someone wants to look.  I just don't have time

OMG, DD,  you are right.  This just gets weirder and weirder:

Corporation

LAWLESS ROOFING INC. 

Number: C1624031
Date Filed: 9/15/1988 
Status: forfeited 
Jurisdiction: OREGON

Address 
501 NE LAWLESS LN
GRANTS PASS, OR 97526 

Agent for Service of Process
MAUDIE GILMORE 
13926 LAKE BLVD 
REDDING, CA 96003 
 
http://kepler.sos.ca.gov/corpdata/ShowAllList?QueryCorpNumber=C1624031
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« Reply #986 on: May 04, 2009, 04:55:57 PM »

CLL married connie the daughter of AA in 1960 wasn't it, so this corp for the clover road baptist church was filed 2 years before that?  and browning is his sister in law.  wonder if that is his brother's wife or his wife's sister.  it must be his wife's sister, as the only brother he has is paul george lawless.  so this must be cynthia browning/nee harris?

what are they doing back there in 1958.  aren't they from washington? when did they move to the central valley, bay area, salinas? cll got married in modesto but it says on the same day he also was baptized in washington, so one of those is wrong, unless they drove all the way from washington to modesto the day of the marriage LOL

this is all just nuts !!!

I think some is a
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« Reply #987 on: May 04, 2009, 05:02:17 PM »

CLL married connie the daughter of AA in 1960 wasn't it, so this corp for the clover road baptist church was filed 2 years before that?  and browning is his sister in law.  wonder if that is his brother's wife or his wife's sister.  it must be his wife's sister, as the only brother he has is paul george lawless.  so this must be cynthia browning/nee harris?

what are they doing back there in 1958.  aren't they from washington? when did they move to the central valley, bay area, salinas? cll got married in modesto but it says on the same day he also was baptized in washington, so one of those is wrong, unless they drove all the way from washington to modesto the day of the marriage LOL

this is all just nuts !!!

I think some is a
Monkey Devil!

This church was the result of a merger, correct? So the date (1958) is probably the date one of the "merged" churches incorporated.  What *probably* happened is the two churches merged into one and the "survivor" of the merger changed its name to Clover Road Baptist Church.  If that's the case, then the incorporated date would reflect the date of initial incorporation.  There should be a Certificate of Merger in the corporate records.  Those types of documents aren't available online--you'd have to visit the Corporate Records Department of the Secretary of State to get them.

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« Reply #988 on: May 04, 2009, 05:06:54 PM »

BROWNING, CYNTHIA L
BROWNING,VERNON D

FAULKNER, MICHAEL J
FAULKNER,SUZANNE C  N/A  812 TRINITY ST
map  MANTECA, CA  95336  N/A 
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« Reply #989 on: May 04, 2009, 05:12:49 PM »

Cynthina Browning:

ECHEAGARAY, CYNTHIA G
BROWNING, CYNTHIA I
BROWNING, CYNTHIA L
BROWNING, C
(DOB: 08/1948)
(Age: 60) 

12819 193RD LN SE
RENTON, WA 98059-8756

(05/2004-Current) 425-228-1990

MUTSCHLER DAVID
(Current Listing Name)
 
812 TRINITY ST
MANTECA, CA 95336-5825
SAN JOAQUIN COUNTY
(11/2003-04/2009)
 

Don't know if this means anything but I looked her up too in peoplefinders
http://www.peoplefinders.com/search/searchpreview.aspx?
13.  BROWNING, CYNTHIA  SHARP
Age: 56

Associated names:
BROWNING, CYNTHIA GAY
SHARP, CYNTHIA GAY

 PINOLE, CA
LOVELAND, CO
MARTINEZ, CA
FORT COLLINS, CO
BERKELEY, CA

  BROWNING, SHIRLEY  L (Age 60)
BROWNING, ROGER  WAYNE (Age 61)
BROWNING, MARK  ANTHONY (Age 39)
SHARP, DAVID (Age 80)
SHARP, SALLY  BETH (Age 50)
BROWNING, ROGER  W (Age 42)
BROWNING, SHERLY  L (Age 61)
SHARP, MARILYN  D94 (Age 70) <may be a long shot but could this be the marilyn we are looking for???

 

I would supprise me if this is marylin, spelling with the y and i backwards, and also I have her and family all the way back now.  but in the 60's who knows who married who or just used the name. but personally I do not think this is her.  what is that d 94? is that a death date? she is still alive as far as I know.  the marylin tieken mother to timothy. 
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« Reply #990 on: May 04, 2009, 05:13:40 PM »

CLL married connie the daughter of AA in 1960 wasn't it, so this corp for the clover road baptist church was filed 2 years before that?  and browning is his sister in law.  wonder if that is his brother's wife or his wife's sister.  it must be his wife's sister, as the only brother he has is paul george lawless.  so this must be cynthia browning/nee harris?

what are they doing back there in 1958.  aren't they from washington? when did they move to the central valley, bay area, salinas? cll got married in modesto but it says on the same day he also was baptized in washington, so one of those is wrong, unless they drove all the way from washington to modesto the day of the marriage LOL

this is all just nuts !!!

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AA Harris said he knew CLL since the mid fifties.. That would have made CLL 20 and CLL (yes they have matching initials) 10..
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« Reply #991 on: May 04, 2009, 05:14:48 PM »

CLOVER ROAD BAPTIST CHURCH
Manteca, CA
Tracy, CA   

BROWNING, CYNTHIA
(REGISTERED AGENT)

LAWLESS, LANE
(PRESIDENT)

associated businesses:
NATIONAL ROOF CORP

let me see if I can find out who owns the actual building and the land

______________________________



Monkeys, check out this information on National Roof Corp. (an associated business of the "church")--notice the address for the registered agent, and recall the search of the roof:

Corporation

NATIONAL ROOF CORP. 
Number: C1610328 
Date Filed: 4/1/1988 
Status: suspended 
Jurisdiction: California

Address 
812 CLOVER RD. #27
TRACY,, CA 95376 

Agent for Service of Process
JEFFREY L. OLSON 
812 CLOVER RD. #27 
TRACY,, CA 95376
 




okay also I remember CLL was a pastor in redding ca. (up where timothy and gary d lawless live) and also up there is a lawless roofing company,  I never had time to see if there are any connections, but maybe there is.  if someone wants to look.  I just don't have time

OMG, DD,  you are right.  This just gets weirder and weirder:

Corporation

LAWLESS ROOFING INC. 

Number: C1624031
Date Filed: 9/15/1988 
Status: forfeited 
Jurisdiction: OREGON

Address 
501 NE LAWLESS LN
GRANTS PASS, OR 97526 

Agent for Service of Process
MAUDIE GILMORE 
13926 LAKE BLVD 
REDDING, CA 96003 
 
http://kepler.sos.ca.gov/corpdata/ShowAllList?QueryCorpNumber=C1624031

okay keep on with what you are doing.  I know that maudie gilmore name.  I was waiting for a gilmore to show up in this mess.  there it is.  keep looking.  I don't have time to jump into this yet, but I will just as soon as I get this other mess cleaned up in my data base with thomas lawless back there.
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« Reply #992 on: May 04, 2009, 05:17:11 PM »

oh heck I can't stand it, I will fix thomas lawless in a bit, I need to jump in here in redding roofing maudie gilmore.
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« Reply #993 on: May 04, 2009, 05:19:09 PM »

CLL married connie the daughter of AA in 1960 wasn't it, so this corp for the clover road baptist church was filed 2 years before that?  and browning is his sister in law.  wonder if that is his brother's wife or his wife's sister.  it must be his wife's sister, as the only brother he has is paul george lawless.  so this must be cynthia browning/nee harris?

what are they doing back there in 1958.  aren't they from washington? when did they move to the central valley, bay area, salinas? cll got married in modesto but it says on the same day he also was baptized in washington, so one of those is wrong, unless they drove all the way from washington to modesto the day of the marriage LOL



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AA Harris said he knew CLL since the mid fifties.. That would have made CLL 20 and CLL (yes they have matching initials) 10..

lol, would that AA LL be a DOUBLE decker 

well pay attention now for sure, we are in redding with maudie gilmore. 
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« Reply #994 on: May 04, 2009, 05:23:47 PM »

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« Reply #995 on: May 04, 2009, 05:44:00 PM »

I have no idea yet where this is going, as I have not had time to get into the redding area lawless other than I know timothy, gary, jeffrey and the mother and grandmother show up there, and I know that the lawless roofing is up there and I know that CLL was up there at the beacon church.  I knew that the clover road baptist church was connected to the national roofing so I thought well maybe there is some connection up there with the redding roofing and the lawless'. 

so here we are.  so lets dig this up for a bit.
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« Reply #996 on: May 04, 2009, 05:46:05 PM »

GILMORE, MAUDIE C
Possible Employment / Business Associations:

 LAWLESS ROOFING INC
 REDDING, CA
GRANTS PASS, OR

Possible Relatives:

GILMORE, HARRY L 
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« Reply #997 on: May 04, 2009, 05:47:55 PM »

GILMORE, HARRY LEROY (Age 95)
ANDERSON, CA by redding
JAMESTOWN, CA 50 miles east of central valley out of stockton/modesto area
SHASTA LAKE, CA by redding
REDDING, CA

Possible Relatives:

GILMORE, LASSEN
GILMORE, JANE C (Age 14)

Possible Roommates / Associates:

HANSEN, PATRICIA J (Age 51)
RUDD, JOHN DARRELL (Age 72)
BROWN, SANDRA L (Age 55)

  GILMORE, HARRY L
 REDDING, CA

Possible Relatives:

GILMORE, MAUDIE C 
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« Reply #998 on: May 04, 2009, 06:05:48 PM »

I reverse searched the Oregan address and clicked to find neighbors and here is what came up -

Lawless Roofing Inc
501 Lawless Ln
Grants Pass, OR 97526-7101
(541) 479-1839
Listing Details
Job title: unavailable


Cheryl Bacon
501 Lawless Ln
Grants Pass, OR 97526-7101
(541) 479-1839
Listing Details
Job title: Owner

 
Robert Burns
501 Lawless Ln
Grants Pass, OR 97526-7101
(541) 479-1839
Listing Details
Job title: Vice President

Donald Lawless
501 Lawless Ln
Grants Pass, OR 97526-7101
(541) 479-1839
Listing Details
Job title: Treasurer
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« Reply #999 on: May 04, 2009, 06:14:32 PM »

I reverse searched the Oregan address and clicked to find neighbors and here is what came up -

Lawless Roofing Inc
501 Lawless Ln
Grants Pass, OR 97526-7101
(541) 479-1839
Listing Details
Job title: unavailable


Cheryl Bacon
501 Lawless Ln
Grants Pass, OR 97526-7101
(541) 479-1839
Listing Details
Job title: Owner

 
Robert Burns
501 Lawless Ln
Grants Pass, OR 97526-7101
(541) 479-1839
Listing Details
Job title: Vice President

Donald Lawless
501 Lawless Ln
Grants Pass, OR 97526-7101
(541) 479-1839
Listing Details
Job title: Treasurer


LAWLESS, DONALD THOMAS (Age 54)

Possible Employment / Business Associations:

LAWLESS ROOFING, INC
 SADDLE MOUNTAIN CATTLE COMPANY

 MONMOUTH, OR
KLAMATH FALLS, OR
GRANTS PASS, OR
DALLAS, OR
CHEMULT, OR
AGNESS, OR

Possible Relatives:

LAWLESS, LEWIS EDWIN (Age 77)  here is an older name to run
LAWLESS, MARLENE L (Age 52)
LAWLESS, BARBARA MAE (Age 73)
LAWLESS, JESSICA LOUISE (Age 32)
LAWLESS, JOSEPH LEWIS (Age 30)
LAWLESS, JOE L (Age 30)
LAWLESS, LENE
LAWLESS, IS E
LAWLESS, JOSEPH L

Possible Roommates / Associates:

LAWLESS, DON T
BACON, CHERYL




.  LAWLESS, DONALD

 GRANTS PASS, OR

Possible Relatives:

LAWLESS, GRACE M (Age 105)
LAWLESS, HAROLD MICHAEL (Age 68)
LAWLESS, MARLENE 
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