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« Reply #560 on: May 01, 2009, 08:03:13 AM »


Anyone know about how old this Deirdre would be?  And do we have a Kansas Lawless? 

LAWLESS, DEIDRE   M
Age: 46

Associated names:
BIEN, DEIDRE M
BIEN, DIEDRE M

OVERLAND PARK, KS
SHAWNEE MISSION, KS
LENEXA, KS

      
    * BIEN, DOUGLAS  C (Age 52)
    * LAWLESS, JOHN  J
    * BIEN, J  A



Wyks, from my earlier post:

Deidre Lawless Bien

BIEN, DEIDRE M
BIEN, DIEDRE M
LAWLESS, DEIDRE M
LAWLESS, DEIDRE
LAWLESS, DIEDRE M(DOB: 12/1962) (Age: 46)   

10433 W 125TH TER
OVERLAND PARK, KS 66213-2171
JOHNSON COUNTY
(07/2006-Current)    Most Recent Telephone Listing 913-Edit-No phone numbers pleaseBIEN DOUG (07/2006-Current)

Most Recent Telephone Listing 913-Edit-No phone numbers pleaseBIEN DOUG (07/2006-Current)
12135 FARLEY ST
OVERLAND PARK, KS 66213-1672
JOHNSON COUNTY
(07/1994-07/2006)    913-Edit-No phone numbers pleaseBIEN DOUG(Current Listing Name)

12705 S MUR LEN RD STE A7
OLATHE, KS 66062-1200
JOHNSON COUNTY
(11/1983-09/2005)   Edit-No phone numbers please

101 UITE C CHILES AND CO
OVERLAND PARK, KS 66212
JOHNSON COUNTY
(10/1997-10/1997)   

11580 CAENEN ST
OVERLAND PARK, KS 66210-2728
JOHNSON COUNTY
(06/1992-01/1997)   

180 UITE C CHILES AND CO
OVERLAND PARK, KS 66210
JOHNSON COUNTY
(12/1994-01/1996)   

9200 INDIAN CREEK PKWY APT
OVERLAND PARK, KS 66210-2002
JOHNSON COUNTY
(08/1994-08/1994)
   
11580 CARMEN
OVERLAND PARK, KS 66210
JOHNSON COUNTY
(06/1992-12/1992)   

9320 DEARBORN ST
OVERLAND PARK, KS 66207-2422
JOHNSON COUNTY
(01/1988-12/1992)   

15406 W 80TH PL
LENEXA, KS 66219-1533
JOHNSON COUNTY
(11/1983-12/1991)    Edit-No phone numbers please
9227 LICHTENAUER DR APT 31
LENEXA, KS 66219-2105
JOHNSON COUNTY
(01/1990-12/1990)    Edit-No phone numbers please

15402 W 88TH TER
LENEXA, KS 66219-1411
JOHNSON COUNTY
(10/1990-10/1990)   

10116 W 80TH ST APT
OVERLAND PARK, KS 66204-4724
JOHNSON COUNTY
(03/1987-01/1988)   

7939 W 115TH PL
OVERLAND PARK, KS 66210-2511
JOHNSON COUNTY
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« Reply #561 on: May 01, 2009, 08:57:48 AM »

Yeesh. You guys are amazing.

So we have connected Diedre and Her Mom and Tim Lawless through the business info, correct?

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« Reply #562 on: May 01, 2009, 09:57:12 AM »

Yeesh. You guys are amazing.

So we have connected Diedre and Her Mom and Tim Lawless through the business info, correct?

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We have connected Diedre through association to Tim Lawless through the business info.  There is still work to be done to ensure this is the Deidre that Bette Johnson and her daughter Carleen Lawless keep visiting in Wenatchee in 1982.  There is also work to be done to connect Deirdre to Betty and Don Johnson through bloodline.  As of 1984 Bette had 30 grandkids!

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« Reply #563 on: May 01, 2009, 10:04:15 AM »

I need help getting the census information on this lovely union.

Franklin C Lawless
B  1878 Indiana
D 26 Sep 1938/39

Married 12 Jan 1901

Margaret A Blue
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« Reply #564 on: May 01, 2009, 10:13:59 AM »

nancy daughter of bette and richard lawless is born 1946
she is 63, so if she had a daughter at age 16, she could have a daughter who is 47 now, so this might be the right deidre, and be the daughter of one of bette and richards kids. now being this deidre is back in kansas with a john j lawless. is that our missing john lawless?


Nancy married Nick Pizzitola and they had their daughter Monique Pizzitola bef 1986

It is always Carleen that goes with Betty to visit Deidre. 
Carleen Lawless married Tom  Shepard (parents are George Leo Shepard b. 26 Oct 1910 Old Everts, South Dakota
Mother Violet Louise Olmsted B 20 Mar 1916 Pollock, South Dakota

I personally think that either

a) Carleen had a child out of wedlock before she married Tom Shepard
b) Deidre is the daughter of one of the three marriages of the son born to Richard and first wife Wilma Toots and Bette being the maternal type goes to visit this child.
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« Reply #565 on: May 01, 2009, 10:22:56 AM »

I need help getting the census information on this lovely union.

Franklin C Lawless
B  1878 Indiana
D 26 Sep 1938/39

Married 12 Jan 1901

Margaret A Blue


Is this him?

1 FILE LAWLESS-1878
1 NAME Franklin C. /LAWLESS/
1 SEX Male
1 BIRT
2 DATE <1878>
2 PLAC IN
3 PAGE FHL Film 1254268; National Archives Film T9-0268; Page 453D
1 CENS
2 DATE 1880
2 PLAC Jackson, Cass, Indiana
3 PAGE FHL Film 1254268; National Archives Film T9-0268; Page 453D
4 TEXT Extract: 1880 United States Census
5 CONT Census Place: Jackson, Cass, Indiana
5 CONT Source: FHL Film 1254268; National Archives Film T9-0268; Page 453D
5 CONT Household:
5 CONT             Rel      Sex    Marr Race Age Birthplace
5 CONT Mc. A. LAWLESS
5 CONT             Self     Male   M    W    34  VA
5 CONT       Occ: Farmer                                        Fa: VA Mo: VA
5 CONT Sarah A. LAWLESS
5 CONT             Wife     Female M    W    39  IN
5 CONT       Occ: Keeping House                                 Fa: OH Mo: VA
5 CONT James H. LAWLESS
5 CONT             Son      Male   S    W    14  IL
5 CONT       Occ: At Home                                       Fa: VA Mo: IN
5 CONT Minnie M. LAWLESS
5 CONT             Dau      Female S    W    10  IN
5 CONT       Occ: At Home                                       Fa: VA Mo: IN
5 CONT Walter R. LAWLESS
5 CONT             Son      Male   S    W    7   IN
5 CONT       Occ: At Home                                       Fa: VA Mo: IN
5 CONT Franklin C. LAWLESS
5 CONT             Son      Male   S    W    2   IN
5 CONT       Occ: At Home                                       Fa: VA Mo: IN


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« Reply #566 on: May 01, 2009, 10:38:03 AM »

1930 Census Data on Margaret & Frank Lawless

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« Reply #567 on: May 01, 2009, 10:39:40 AM »

I need help getting the census information on this lovely union.

Franklin C Lawless
B  1878 Indiana
D 26 Sep 1938/39

Married 12 Jan 1901

Margaret A Blue


Is this him?

1 FILE LAWLESS-1878
1 NAME Franklin C. /LAWLESS/
1 SEX Male
1 BIRT
2 DATE <1878>
2 PLAC IN
3 PAGE FHL Film 1254268; National Archives Film T9-0268; Page 453D
1 CENS
2 DATE 1880
2 PLAC Jackson, Cass, Indiana
3 PAGE FHL Film 1254268; National Archives Film T9-0268; Page 453D
4 TEXT Extract: 1880 United States Census
5 CONT Census Place: Jackson, Cass, Indiana
5 CONT Source: FHL Film 1254268; National Archives Film T9-0268; Page 453D
5 CONT Household:
5 CONT             Rel      Sex    Marr Race Age Birthplace
5 CONT Mc. A. LAWLESS
5 CONT             Self     Male   M    W    34  VA
5 CONT       Occ: Farmer                                        Fa: VA Mo: VA
5 CONT Sarah A. LAWLESS
5 CONT             Wife     Female M    W    39  IN
5 CONT       Occ: Keeping House                                 Fa: OH Mo: VA
5 CONT James H. LAWLESS
5 CONT             Son      Male   S    W    14  IL
5 CONT       Occ: At Home                                       Fa: VA Mo: IN
5 CONT Minnie M. LAWLESS
5 CONT             Dau      Female S    W    10  IN
5 CONT       Occ: At Home                                       Fa: VA Mo: IN
5 CONT Walter R. LAWLESS
5 CONT             Son      Male   S    W    7   IN
5 CONT       Occ: At Home                                       Fa: VA Mo: IN
5 CONT Franklin C. LAWLESS
5 CONT             Son      Male   S    W    2   IN
5 CONT       Occ: At Home                                       Fa: VA Mo: IN




Yes it is!!!  Can we keep tracking him on the next few census?
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« Reply #568 on: May 01, 2009, 10:43:13 AM »

The 1930 Census Data I posted shows only Margaret & Frank as occupants. 

Census - US Federal 1930

… Indiana » MIAMI » PERU CITY, WARD 2 » 52-16 » Sheet 4A

State:
    Indiana

   1. Lawless, Margaret (b: 1873*)

      Household:
          Lawless, Frank (b: 1878*)


I'm still trying to find earlier  census data to confirm whether or not they had children.
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« Reply #569 on: May 01, 2009, 10:46:00 AM »

The 1930 Census Data I posted shows only Margaret & Frank as occupants. 

Census - US Federal 1930

… Indiana » MIAMI » PERU CITY, WARD 2 » 52-16 » Sheet 4A

State:
    Indiana

   1. Lawless, Margaret (b: 1873*)

      Household:
          Lawless, Frank (b: 1878*)


I'm still trying to find earlier  census data to confirm whether or not they had children.


Thanks that would be great!  He seems to stick around so his and Margaret's deaths may be in Peru as well.
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« Reply #570 on: May 01, 2009, 11:18:56 AM »

The 1930 Census Data I posted shows only Margaret & Frank as occupants. 

Census - US Federal 1930

… Indiana » MIAMI » PERU CITY, WARD 2 » 52-16 » Sheet 4A

State:
    Indiana

   1. Lawless, Margaret (b: 1873*)

      Household:
          Lawless, Frank (b: 1878*)


I'm still trying to find earlier  census data to confirm whether or not they had children.


Thanks that would be great!  He seems to stick around so his and Margaret's deaths may be in Peru as well.

1920 Census information shows the following members of the household:

Frank C Lawless     40
Margarete Lawless    46
George A Burgher    32
Jennette M Burgher    30

George A. Burgher is listed as his step son, and Jennette his daughter in law.
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« Reply #571 on: May 01, 2009, 11:31:58 AM »

1900 Census Data for Frank Lawless is attached.  It's a little confusing though, as it has him as a resident of the William J. and Minnie Ellis household, and his relationship is listed as "br in law."  Look at lines 39-41.



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« Reply #572 on: May 01, 2009, 11:35:04 AM »

Marriage Record for Frank Lawless

Name:     Franklin C Lawless
Spouse Name:    Margaret A Blue
Marriage Date:    12 Jan 1901
Marriage County:    Miami
Estimated Birth Year:    1878
Age:    23
Source Title 1:    Miami County, Indiana
Source Title 2:    Index to Marriage Record 1850-1920 Inclusive Volum
Source Title 3:    Original Record Located County Clerks Office, Peru
Book:    C 10
OS Page:    558
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« Reply #573 on: May 01, 2009, 11:51:32 AM »

The 1930 Census Data I posted shows only Margaret & Frank as occupants. 

Census - US Federal 1930

… Indiana » MIAMI » PERU CITY, WARD 2 » 52-16 » Sheet 4A

State:
    Indiana

   1. Lawless, Margaret (b: 1873*)

      Household:
          Lawless, Frank (b: 1878*)


I'm still trying to find earlier  census data to confirm whether or not they had children.


Thanks that would be great!  He seems to stick around so his and Margaret's deaths may be in Peru as well.

1920 Census information shows the following members of the household:

Frank C Lawless     40
Margarete Lawless    46
George A Burgher    32
Jennette M Burgher    30

George A. Burgher is listed as his step son, and Jennette his daughter in law.


Step son?  There is only an 8 year difference between Frank and George.  Margaret would have been 14 if George is her child.  Guess that is possible. and Jennette marrying George would make her a daughter in law.
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« Reply #574 on: May 01, 2009, 11:55:12 AM »

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« Reply #575 on: May 01, 2009, 11:56:22 AM »

Yeesh. You guys are amazing.

So we have connected Diedre and Her Mom and Tim Lawless through the business info, correct?



no, haha, we have connected no one for certain yet.
 
my personal opinion is this:  (from what it is looking like to me)

richard ray lawless - 3 counts of child rape, living in  buclarkston/lewiston areas will most likely connect to one of the CCL's uncles families, of which there is the Johnson line also

Timothy John Lawless, 10 sex crimes in jail in sacramento, whose father is gary d lawless, is still a total brick wall as no one can find Gary D lawless the father. But we believe the gary d lawless sex offender is his brother.  this is the gary d lawless who also was arrested and in prison on a drug deal gone bad/murder, he beat the murder and was to be released this year, he could be out, or just about getting out.
we are still working to find out which line his father is from. 

The Rhode Island sex offend Gordon Lester Lawless MIGHT connect back to the Washington Lawless family of CCL.  He is in bangor maine, which there is an amanda lawless in bangor maine. An Amanda Lawless marries the above child rapist Richard Ray Lawless.  Also there is a John Lawless in the CLL uncles list who leaves Washington and goes to Bangor Maine, so we are trying to figure out if all these connect.

CLL's uncle Richard Birdette Lawless' first wife bette then married Donald Johnson, whose first wife was Garner, her father is Dale Garner.  They have 5 childern(unknown names at this time).  If they named one of their sons after her father Dale, we then have a Dale Johnson(I just found that last night so will work on that). 

There are a few more sex offenders we are working on, but off the top of my head I can't remember them but they are somewhere in these threads LOL
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« Reply #576 on: May 01, 2009, 11:58:38 AM »

The 1930 Census Data I posted shows only Margaret & Frank as occupants. 

Census - US Federal 1930

… Indiana » MIAMI » PERU CITY, WARD 2 » 52-16 » Sheet 4A

State:
    Indiana

   1. Lawless, Margaret (b: 1873*)

      Household:
          Lawless, Frank (b: 1878*)


I'm still trying to find earlier  census data to confirm whether or not they had children.


Thanks that would be great!  He seems to stick around so his and Margaret's deaths may be in Peru as well.

1920 Census information shows the following members of the household:

Frank C Lawless     40
Margarete Lawless    46
George A Burgher    32
Jennette M Burgher    30

George A. Burgher is listed as his step son, and Jennette his daughter in law.


Step son?  There is only an 8 year difference between Frank and George.  Margaret would have been 14 if George is her child.  Guess that is possible. and Jennette marrying George would make her a daughter in law.


1920 Census Data is attached.

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« Reply #577 on: May 01, 2009, 11:59:13 AM »

1900 Census Data for Frank Lawless is attached.  It's a little confusing though, as it has him as a resident of the William J. and Minnie Ellis household, and his relationship is listed as "br in law."  Look at lines 39-41.

This actually makes sense. Minnie is his sister, second oldest of the children.
Minnie Lawless
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« Reply #578 on: May 01, 2009, 12:00:15 PM »

The 1930 Census Data I posted shows only Margaret & Frank as occupants. 

Census - US Federal 1930

… Indiana » MIAMI » PERU CITY, WARD 2 » 52-16 » Sheet 4A

State:
    Indiana

   1. Lawless, Margaret (b: 1873*)

      Household:
          Lawless, Frank (b: 1878*)


I'm still trying to find earlier  census data to confirm whether or not they had children.


Thanks that would be great!  He seems to stick around so his and Margaret's deaths may be in Peru as well.

1920 Census information shows the following members of the household:

Frank C Lawless     40
Margarete Lawless    46
George A Burgher    32
Jennette M Burgher    30

George A. Burgher is listed as his step son, and Jennette his daughter in law.


Step son?  There is only an 8 year difference between Frank and George.  Margaret would have been 14 if George is her child.  Guess that is possible. and Jennette marrying George would make her a daughter in law.


1920 Census Data is attached.



Look at lines 62-65.  That may say Step daughter in law by Jeannette's name.
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« Reply #579 on: May 01, 2009, 12:01:16 PM »

1900 Census Data for Frank Lawless is attached.  It's a little confusing though, as it has him as a resident of the William J. and Minnie Ellis household, and his relationship is listed as "br in law."  Look at lines 39-41.

This actually makes sense. Minnie is his sister, second oldest of the children.
Minnie Lawless
B 1870 Indiana

Married

William J  Ellis
 

WOW!  You are on the ball NROSE!
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