The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection

[Northern Rose]

When you are posting news articles or snippets of articles PLEASE put the date or at the very least the year that it was published.  This is sometimes the only way to connect them to figure out estimated date of birth, death etc.  Thanks!

[doubledecker]

ugh, I am still over here sorting and adding the collected info in where it fits, and trying to get this stuff organized.  And also trying to still research to help connect these people together.  Yesterday all I did was sort stuff and put it in categories so it all fits and makes sense.  If we can every find these Missing ones, I think they might hook up.  It seems the missing ones in all the different lines, are at the same time frame.  if we can ever find one of them, there might be someone else in the household or mentioned with them that will prove they tie to the others.

still looking.

[Northern Rose]

Fresno 3 Mar 1940 Vera Lawless husband Horace B Oftedal - son Donald Oftedal

[Northern Rose]

Oakland 10 May 1967 - Ethel Lawless husband Earl E Lawless

[Northern Rose]

Eureka CA 15 June 1977 - Elizabeth J Lawless - husband Morgan (Jack) Lawless

[Northern Rose]

Long Beach 25 Nov 1948 - Minnie G Lawless admx for estate of George W Lawless

[doubledecker]

First Bird Lawless:


Bird Lawless
b aft 1759
d 7 jun 1845

married 24 Nov 1789 Pittsylvanian, VA

Susannah Thomas daughter of William Thomas


Children:


Sarah/Sallie Lawless b. 01 Oct 1790 married Elisha Isaacs

Mastin Lawless b. Abt. 1795 married  Mary "Polly" Crowdus/Crowder

Elizabeth Lawless b. 11 Apr 1796 married Charles Hughes

Thomas S. Lawless

Nancy Lawless

Terrill Lawless

Mercy Lawless married Anthony Drane

Bird Lawless JR married Elizabeth G. Scott

Leah Lawless married Reuben Alexander

Celah/Celia Lawless married William Alexander

Dicey Lawless married David Isaacs

Then we have the other "Byrd" Lawless:

Thomas Byrd Lawless
b 1795 in Halifax Con, VA
D 2 May 1887 Patrick Co, VA

Marriage 1 26 Dec 1814 Partrick, VA Mary Polly Spencer D 1830 daughter of William Spencer

Marriage 2  10 Oct 1826 Patrick, VA Zelphe Zina (Zentha) Keaton parents William Keaton and Anna Haile (Hale)
B abt 1807
D 1855

Children

Child 1 Francis Marion Lawless
Born, 16 April, 1830, in Patrick County, Va
Died 8 August, 1862

Married 11 February, 1857, in Patrick County, Virginia

Cinthia  (Zenia)  J. Keaton
B 1836
   Child 1 Joseph H Lawless
   B 1860

Child 4 Louisa (Lucy) A Lawless
b.1833 Patrick, VA
D 1900 Patrick, Va

Married 9 Dec 1860

James Sheldon Pedigo
B 9 Nov 1828
D 4 Feb 1900 
   Children :
   James Pedigo
   Pheobe Agnes Pedigo
   Pocahontas Pedigo (twin to Pheobe)
   Daniel Thomas Pedigo

Child 2 Andrew Jackson Lawless
Born, 16 April, 1830, in Patrick County, Va
Died May 16, 1864

Married 2 January, 1862, in Patrick County, Va.

Harriet E. McGhee

Child 3 George Washington Lawless
b May 1833 Patrick County Virginia
d Apr 1905., Patrick , Virginia

married 13 Aug 1863

Rosanna Washburn, B 1847 died in 1902 daughter of Thompson C. Washburn and Louisianna Stegall

They lived and farmed in Patrick County, and raised nine children
MORE

Child 5 Thomas Jefferson Lawless
Born 15 August, 1840

Married 2 March, 1862 in Patrick County, Va.

Sally Ashby, daughter of James Ashby and Mary Carter

   Children:
   George Washington Lawless
   Alicia Lawless
   William Lawless

Child 6 McNealy (Mack) A Lawless
b. 16 Feb. 1846
died 12 oct. 1908

married in 1864

Sarah Ann Nicholas

   Children:
   James Lawless
   Minnie Lawless
   Walter Lawless
   Frank Lawless
   Violet Lawless

Child 7 Susannah H. Lawless
b: Abt. 1847
d abt 1931

Married 15 Jan 1871
J Samuel Rodger

okay still trying to straighten this out
below this johenry and george F.  who are their parents?
are these the kids of thoman byrd and zina?  or what?
gee LOL
1870 United States Federal Census
about Zina Lawless
Name: Zina Lawless
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1828
Age in 1870: 42 
Birthplace: Virginia 
Home in 1870: Mayo, Patrick, Virginia
Race: White 
Gender: Female 
Value of real estate: View Image
Post Office: Rock Spring 
Household Members: Name Age
Zina Lawless 42 
Susan H Lawless 22 
Johenry Lawless 11 
Geo F Lawless 9 
 
 

[Northern Rose]

Fresno 31 Oct 1941 J H Lawless

[Northern Rose]

Fresno 16 July 1963 - Deputy Gerald D Lawless

[Northern Rose]

okay, have to get my thoughts going here.

I'm stuck on ronald sutton lawless line in los angeles.  he married elaine c bevilacqua. he then marries Delores M abang

I believe his mother is a doyle, she would have married his father a Lawless.  his middle name is sutton, which most likely is hit mothers maiden name.  there is a dorothy doyle who marries a lawless, whose mother was a sutton, but I have not determined if that is her of not. 

this ronald sutton is born oct 22, 1939.  Missing gary the father of timothy is born abt 1933.  his son gary duane lawless shares a phone number with Ronald's first wife elaine c bevilacqua.  why would gary the son share a phone number with her.  He must be related to ronald sutton lawless.  being that ronald is born 6 years later than missing gary the father, perhaps they are brothers? somehow missing gary must fit in this family. 

Here is another Ronald S. Lawless in the Los Angeles area born in 1900:

yes, that is the one I believe is the father to the roland sutton lawless.  roland suttone was born oct 22, 1939, so could be the father and they are listed in the same households.  it is my guess this older roland S lawless m. the doyle mother.  who is most likely this dorothy doyle with the sutton mother. but I don't have anything to prove that and still looking.  there could be some sister with the same last name with sutton mother he married also, but I have not found one yet.  I don't want to stick these people in the tree until I have the docs to prove they connect ugh... so I am still looking for something that proves it, the marriage or in the same household or something

You meant Ronald? (you typed Roland)

[Northern Rose]

I posted the military records yesterday. This fits with it.  Pasadena 18 June 1959 - Ronald S Lawless

[Monkey with Class]

Deenie
http://www.tracypress.com/pages/full_story?page_label=results_content&id=2298054-Exclusive-+Woman+in+mobile+home+park+reported+missing+suitcase&article-Exclusive-%20Woman%20in%20mobile%20home%20park%20reported%20missing%20suitcase%20=&widget=push&open=&

(snipped)

When she got to the church, Huckaby’s grandmother called and said she found her keys and cell phone. Huckaby said that’s when she realized she had left the $200 suitcase outside. When her family went out to get it, they said it was gone.

“So I talked to the assistant manager at the mobile home park and asked him to keep an eye out for this suitcase; someone took it,” Huckaby said. “I also told some older kids to look out for it. I didn’t think much then, because, you know, kids were getting out of school, and I thought that maybe someone, maybe someone walking by, just took it.”

She called Tracy police intending to file a report but decided to do it online. She never got around to it.


This is Melissa Huckaby talking about the assistant manger of the mobile home park.  I do not think that Connie Lawless was a manager of the park.  I do believe she (Connie Lawless) was a foster parent though.

This confusion may have come from some of the Historical Person Locator information I posted some time ago.  I noticed that flag appears on many of the searches I do for people who live in the MHP.  I think the flag "Mobile home park operator" is triggered by the fact that everyone has the same 812 West Clover Road address, which is the address for the "office" so to speak.  Each resident is then assigned a "SPC" or lot number.  But the Historical Person Locator ignores the "SPC" number for "Flagging" purposes and hits on the 812 West Clover Road as the address of the MHP itself. 

I hope that was clear.  I'm not feeling very well today, so my brain is a little jumbed this morning.

I do find it a little odd though that while the streets have separate names within the MHP, the residents' addresses use West Clover Road.  Odd in the sense that it's odd to do it that way.  Not that it should signal something of any particular importance to us.

This is done for postal reasons.   When the post office delievers the mail.  They sort all MHP in one tub in the mornings.  When taking it out for delivery, the MHP will have a lock box or a mail room within.  The postal guys will then sort the remaining mail on location to each individual lot number.

Hope this helps

[Northern Rose]

Albuquerque New Mexico 13 May 1965 - Elaine Bevilacqua

[Blink34]

Carroll Lawless gets hit by train (her brother is Father Tubman) - Reno 15 June 1906

Carroll is a "he", if this is his bro, where does the "Tubman" come in?

Great job as usual everyone
B

[Blink34]

Albuquerque New Mexico 13 May 1965 - Elaine Bevilacqua

Elaine of HI...

[lonemonkey]

Good Morning to ALL of you !!!
Bananas for everyone!
May i just say... this has been such a positive experience joining this forum.  You Monkeys are really a special *BUNCH*

Back to the case...
I have a question for you clever Monkeys...
Remember the compound-like area on Lawless Lane where there was an apparent odd little cemetery???  Can we find out any info on that cemetery...like who is buried there?  Does the state take care of the up keep?
This may be meaning less...but it sure would be a good place to bury someone and maybe go un-noticed.
Brainstorming a little out loud.
  LM

[4getUnot]

Afternoon Monkeys!  Don't know if this might help, you may already have some of this I'm sure

Ronald S Lawless home
3110 Ewing Ave
Altadena, CA 91001-4810
(626) 797-8635
Listing Details
Household: Dolores M Lawless, Erica Lawless
----------------------------------
16.  LAWLESS, ERICA M (Age 22)
 Available(2) Available ALTADENA, CA Possible Relatives:
LAWLESS, RONALD TR (Age 108)
LAWLESS, DOLORES M (Age 55)
LAWLESS, DEE
LAWLESS, TODD ALFRED (Age 37)

 GATES, PATRICIA  (Age 84)
 Available(2) Available MAYFIELD HEIGHTS, OH
CLEVELAND, OH
FORT LEE, NJ
BOGOTA, NJ
LYNDHURST, OH   Possible Roommates / Associates:

HURWITZ, JOEL AARON (Age 41)
THEIS, DONNA M (Age 52)
DEATON, KRISTEN MARIA (Age 30)
HARGREQUES, JENNIFER R (Age 33)
HURWITZ, AMY MAGARET (Age 40)
BERLIN, MORRIS (Age 92)
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white pages search for Patricia Gates in Tracy
Patricia Gates work
1116 Lourence Dr
Tracy, CA 95376-8769
phone number unavailable
Listing Details
Job title: unavailable
Company: Gates Love Circle
...........
Patricia A Gates home
1116 Lourence Dr
Tracy, CA 95376-8769
phone number unavailable
Listing Details
Household: Kenneth L Gates
...............
Patricia Gates work
815 Applegate Ct
Tracy, CA 95376-2470
phone number unavailable
Listing Details
Job title: Owner
Company: Heartfelt Caregiving
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[4getUnot]

Here is another article I found very interesting -
  OA Online Obituaries. Click here for OA Online Yellow Pages.
                                     
                               April 16, 2000
                                     
                          Permian Basin Obituaries
                                     
                              Obituaries Index
                                     
                                    Home
     _________________________________________________________________
                                     
                          Robert R.L. "Bob" Baker
                                     
      ODESSA — Robert R.L. "Bob" Baker, 65, of Odessa passed away
    Friday, April 14, 2000, at Medical Center Hospital in Odessa. He was
                 born May 26, 1934, in Mont Pelier, Idaho.
                                     
    Funeral services will be 10 a.m. Tuesday at Frank W. Wilson Funeral
                             Directors Chapel.
                                     
      Mr. Baker moved to Odessa in 1953 from Oregon. He married Sherry
    Hughes Aug. 31, 1956, in Odessa. He worked for Stewart and Stephens
   Services for 22 years, and owned Bob Baker’s Welding Service. He
     was an avid race fan and loved to build race cars. Mr. Baker was a
                     good cook and made great barbecue.
                                     
     He is survived by his wife, Sherry Baker of Odessa; son, Robert L.
    Baker of Odessa; daughters, Janice E. Bullock and Jennifer G. Cobos,
    both of Odessa; sisters, Barbara Lawless of Oregon, Joy Williams and
     Maudie Gilmore, both of Portland, Ore.; six grandchildren; and two
                            great-grandchildren.
                                     
         Funeral arrangements by Frank W. Wilson Funeral Directors.
http://files.usgwarchives.net/tx/ector/obits/odessa/2000/obit/041600.txt

[doubledecker]

okay, have to get my thoughts going here.

I'm stuck on ronald sutton lawless line in los angeles.  he married elaine c bevilacqua. he then marries Delores M abang

I believe his mother is a doyle, she would have married his father a Lawless.  his middle name is sutton, which most likely is hit mothers maiden name.  there is a dorothy doyle who marries a lawless, whose mother was a sutton, but I have not determined if that is her of not. 

this ronald sutton is born oct 22, 1939.  Missing gary the father of timothy is born abt 1933.  his son gary duane lawless shares a phone number with Ronald's first wife elaine c bevilacqua.  why would gary the son share a phone number with her.  He must be related to ronald sutton lawless.  being that ronald is born 6 years later than missing gary the father, perhaps they are brothers? somehow missing gary must fit in this family. 

Here is another Ronald S. Lawless in the Los Angeles area born in 1900:

yes, that is the one I believe is the father to the roland sutton lawless.  roland suttone was born oct 22, 1939, so could be the father and they are listed in the same households.  it is my guess this older roland S lawless m. the doyle mother.  who is most likely this dorothy doyle with the sutton mother. but I don't have anything to prove that and still looking.  there could be some sister with the same last name with sutton mother he married also, but I have not found one yet.  I don't want to stick these people in the tree until I have the docs to prove they connect ugh... so I am still looking for something that proves it, the marriage or in the same household or something

You meant Ronald? (you typed Roland)

yes I meant ronald ugh

[doubledecker]

Afternoon Monkeys!  Don't know if this might help, you may already have some of this I'm sure

Ronald S Lawless home
3110 Ewing Ave
Altadena, CA 91001-4810
(626) 797-8635
Listing Details
Household: Dolores M Lawless, Erica Lawless
----------------------------------
16.  LAWLESS, ERICA M (Age 22)
 Available(2) Available ALTADENA, CA Possible Relatives:
LAWLESS, RONALD TR (Age 108)
LAWLESS, DOLORES M (Age 55)
LAWLESS, DEE
LAWLESS, TODD ALFRED (Age 37)

 GATES, PATRICIA  (Age 84)
 Available(2) Available MAYFIELD HEIGHTS, OH
CLEVELAND, OH
FORT LEE, NJ
BOGOTA, NJ
LYNDHURST, OH   Possible Roommates / Associates:

HURWITZ, JOEL AARON (Age 41)
THEIS, DONNA M (Age 52)
DEATON, KRISTEN MARIA (Age 30)
HARGREQUES, JENNIFER R (Age 33)
HURWITZ, AMY MAGARET (Age 40)
BERLIN, MORRIS (Age 92)
--------------
white pages search for Patricia Gates in Tracy
Patricia Gates work
1116 Lourence Dr
Tracy, CA 95376-8769
phone number unavailable
Listing Details
Job title: unavailable
Company: Gates Love Circle
...........
Patricia A Gates home
1116 Lourence Dr
Tracy, CA 95376-8769
phone number unavailable
Listing Details
Household: Kenneth L Gates
...............
Patricia Gates work
815 Applegate Ct
Tracy, CA 95376-2470
phone number unavailable
Listing Details
Job title: Owner
Company: Heartfelt Caregiving
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this is ronald the right one, that is the right address. let me find out who all I found at that address.  I remember the address