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« Reply #1400 on: May 07, 2009, 05:34:14 PM »


You guys are the geano wizzards, but I could certainly try, watcha got?


Hope I snipped ok....

Here is the one that is driving me nuts:

Richard Birdette Lawless
B 22 Mar 1910 Washington
D 26 May 1962 Brewster, WA

Married

Wilma (Toots) Holt 1936 Seattle,King, WA

Possibly – John or William “Bill”  Lawless – April 1982 Was on Brewster team in the Ridge River Run in Wenatchee as bicyclist leg came in 42 place out of 133 teams.
June 1982 Chairman for Country Fun Run 
Sept 1982 – went to Bonneville Salt Flat in Utah to try for the World Land Speed Record with Stepdad Rich Thomason and Ed Tradup


First marriage to a Virginia Hammond m 1957 Brewster
   
   Child one female Lawless
Child one Male Lawless

Marriage 2 to a Nellie Phyllis (Phillys).lawless (Pickett)??? B 1 aug 1942, D 9 Nov 1975 Lincoln, Montana
   Child one Female Lawless


third marriage to unknown
   Child one Male Lawless
   Child two Female




Lol, O no you cant throw that at me, I am like one degree of seperation on 3 hits and it is driving me nuts!!!!

ok.
Can someone remind my medicated azz about the Bevilaqua/New Mexico/HI connection before I heave my laptop into the rain Smile
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« Reply #1401 on: May 07, 2009, 05:36:26 PM »


unreal, see this crap is generational with these people.  what the heck are they growing up believing? !!!

this old one is the one I was wondering if the shot one was related too.  gee.  whoever shot the auto parts delivery should have went and shot the other two  Monkey Devil!

Yes it is!  That's what I said early on.  When we find this kind of abuse done by someone, may as well look to the older family members to see if it's possible they also are abusers.  Of course it doesn't happen 100% of the time, yet a good majority of time, where there's one, we'll find more. 

It's also why I don't believe Melissa acted alone.  What she supposedly has done to Sandra, she learned somewhere.  And very likely she learned that by something similiar, (to some degree) having happened to her.  By someone.  So we begin looking at others, who very likely learned that by it having happened to them, and we look further etc.  It's a vicious cycle. 

And also is the reason I don't want Melissa (if there were others who are responsible) to go down for this alone.  I'm betting my next month's income there are many 'in the shadows', that hope to gosh Melissa keeps her mouth shut.  They ought to be going down right along with her.  IMO. 


I will make yet another observation to your very educated posts, there is also alot of female SO's associated with these individuals that we know are related; I have never seen that before.

back to searching..lol
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« Reply #1402 on: May 07, 2009, 05:55:11 PM »

Good Morning to ALL of you !!!
Bananas for everyone!
May i just say... this has been such a positive experience joining this forum.  You Monkeys are really a special *BUNCH*

Back to the case...
I have a question for you clever Monkeys...
Remember the compound-like area on Lawless Lane where there was an apparent odd little cemetery???  Can we find out any info on that cemetery...like who is buried there?  Does the state take care of the up keep?
This may be meaning less...but it sure would be a good place to bury someone and maybe go un-noticed.
Brainstorming a little out loud.
  LM

The "compound-like" area freaks me out, first of all.  That reminds me of the polygamist Mormon compound in Texas that was raided.  Sooooooo much sexual abuse was going on!  One of the former wives who managed to leave that group, was interviewed and told of an area where babies/children who died were buried in mass graves on the property.  Many detailed records were kept.  And in many/most families there supposedly were babies born deformed whose births and deaths were never officially recorded with the state.  But they were in private records, which were locked in vaults etc on the compound and seized by LE.  She also said that children who lived were typically given to another family within the compound to raise, mainly so that there would be less chance of a father-daughter offspring.  (Seems that uncle/niece, cousin/cousin, etc. was just fine with them tho.  sigh). 

Just wondering if this 'compound-like' area on Lawless Ln, along with its lil cemetery, could have been something like that?   
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« Reply #1403 on: May 07, 2009, 05:57:24 PM »

DOROTHY A. BIDWELL
36788 RTE 12E
CLAYTON
NY ZIP 13624
Race
White Ethnicity
Not Hispanic Height
5'04 Weight
140
Date of Birth
Dec 4, 1974 Hair Color
Brown Eye Color
Hazel Sex
Female
Risk Level
2 Corrective Lenses
 Offender ID
7989



Conviction Date
Apr 20, 1998 Arrest Agency
Watertown City Police Department Supervising Agency
Jefferson County Probation Victim Sex Age
Male, 5 Years



Conviction Charges



Statute Title
PL Statute Section
130.65 Statute Subsection
 Offense Class
D
Offense Category
F Offense Degree
1 Offense Description
Sexual Abuse-1st Degree



Sentence



Probation Sentence
Probation Sente Incarceration Sentence
Probation Sentence: 5 Year(s). Max. Expiration Of Sentence
APR 20, 1998



Scars/Marks/Tattoos



none found

Aliases



Last
BIDWELL First
DOROTHY Middle
 



Last
DOYLE First
DOROTHY Middle
A



Last
NEE First
FULLER Middle
 



Vehicles



Vehicle License Plate
BMY8510 Vehicle State
NY Vehicle Year
1991 Vehicle Make/Model
Dodge Caravan
Vehicle Color
Blue



Vehicle License Plate
BMY8510 Vehicle State
NY Vehicle Year
1992 Vehicle Make/Model
Chevrolet Unknown
Vehicle Color
Red



Vehicle License Plate
DEZ3360 Vehicle State
NY Vehicle Year
1991 Vehicle Make/Model
Dodge Caravan
Vehicle Color
Blue



Vehicle License Plate
DLC7338 Vehicle State
NY Vehicle Year
1991 Vehicle Make/Model
Isuzu Rodeo
Vehicle Color
Blue



Vehicle License Plate
DXN1323 Vehicle State
NY Vehicle Year
1987 Vehicle Make/Model
Ford Bronco/BroncoII
Vehicle Color
 



Vehicle License Plate
DXN1323 Vehicle State
NY Vehicle Year
2001 Vehicle Make/Model
Ford Taurus
Vehicle Color
Tan



Vehicle License Plate
DXW1323 Vehicle State
NY Vehicle Year
1987 Vehicle Make/Model
Ford Bronco/BroncoII
Vehicle Color
Blue



Special Conditions



Special Conditions
Special Conditions: ORDER OF PROTECTION, 4 MONTHS HOME DETENTION.


You seeing all the names with this one *cough* gal?


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« Reply #1404 on: May 07, 2009, 06:24:39 PM »

Blink this is what I have:

Sarah Jane Doyle
Born:  26 Jan 1902
Died:  Oct 1980 Kailua Kona, Hawaii, Hawaii, USA 

Marriage 1 Dan Sayre Beach
B 7 Dec 1897, Missouri
D 11 Jun 1955 Los Angeles

Children :

Child 1 Robert Beach
B 7 Jul 1922 Los Angeles
D 19 Jun 2001 LA, CA

Child 2 Florence Virginia Beach
B 22 Feb 1925 Los Angeles
D 18 Dec 1994 Covina, CA

married

Jas E Ware - father Ernest Alfred Ware mother Esther Elva Phillips
b abt 1923

Child 3 Dan Sayre Beach
B 17 Dec 1926 Los Angeles
D Feb 1986 La Mirada, LA, CA


Marriage 2 Ralph Owens

Marriage 3 Joe Piershmont
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« Reply #1405 on: May 07, 2009, 06:25:36 PM »

There are two Elaine Camille Bevilacqua in Broward county Florida

One married 15 Nov 1974
one married 12 Jul 1996

There is also one showing as living in Monrovia, Ca

Christine Lawless

married

Mr Doyle

Children:

Sarah Jane Doyle
B 26 jan 1902
D oct 1980 Kailua Kona, Hawaii



Sarah Jane DOyle

married

Dan Sayre Beach
B 7 dec 1897, Missouri
D 11 June 1955 Los angeles


Children:

Florence Virginia Beach
B 22 Feb 1925
D 18 Dec 1994 Azusa California

married

James Ernest Ware
B 19 Dec 1923

Children:

Male Ware
Robert Ware
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« Reply #1406 on: May 07, 2009, 06:25:37 PM »

just for info

if anyone runs into anyone in SAN DIMAS, check it for this address
Address: 213 W 3RD ST
SAN DIMAS, CA 91773
Reported Date: 12/1999

this is another address of Ronald S lawless married to elaine bevilacqua or delores M abang.  where elaine shares phone # with gary duane lawless the son, brother to timothy john lawless. 


I don't know if this helps or not:


PATIK, NANCY  LYNN
Age: 48

Associated names:
LAWLESS, NANCY L

SAN DIMAS, CA
WEST LINN, OR
BETHLEHEM, PA
SAUGERTIES, NY

    * LEIGHTON, KATHLEEN  A (Age 52)
    * TROINCALE, KAREN  L (Age 55)
    * PATIK, THOMAS  GEORGE (Age 56)
    * PATICK, GEORGE  J
    * PATIK, LORRAINE  M (Age 86)
    * PATIK, BENJAMIN  THOMAS (Age 31)
    * PATIK, JENNIFER  ANNE (Age 36)
    * PATIK, TOM
    * PATIK, TOM  G

2.    LAWLESS, RONALD  TR
Age: 108

Associated names:
LAWLESS, RON S
LAWLESS, RONALD S

ALTADENA, CA
SAN DIMAS, CA
SAN GABRIEL, CA
MONROVIA, CA

    * LAWLESS, DEE
    * LAWLESS, DOLORES  M (Age 55)
    * LAWLESS, ELAINE  C (Age 68)
    * LAWLESS, TODD  ALFRED (Age 37)
    * LAWLESS, ERICA  M (Age 22)


3.    GARDENER, SHEILA  F
Age: 37

Associated names:
GARDNER, SHEILA F
LAWLESS, SHEILA A
LAWLESS, SHEILA F
SHANK, SHEILA F

ELSMERE, KY
FONTANA, CA
RANCHO CUCAMONGA, CA
REDLANDS, CA
SAN DIMAS, CA
UPLAND, CA
FLORENCE, KY
FOSTER, KY

    * PAYNE, JENNIFER  MARIE (Age 36)
    * SHANK, NATHAN  P (Age 38)
    * RUNYEN, SHERRI  MARIE (Age 45)
    * LAWLESS, SHIELA (Age 37)
    * LAWLESS, MARK  LEROY (Age 40)
    * GARDNER, COLIN  M (Age 45)
    * GARDNER, WALTER  MALCOLM (Age 43)
    * GARDNER, SYLVIA  MARGARET (Age 75)
    * GARDNER, GEORGE  M (Age 81)


4.    LAWLESS, TODD  ALFRED
Age: 37

SAN DIMAS, CA
MONROVIA, CA
ALTADENA, CA

    * LAWLESS, DEE
    * LAWLESS, RONALD  TR (Age 108)
    * LAWLESS, DOLORES  M (Age 55)
    * LAWLESS, ELAINE  C (Age 68)
    * LAWLESS, ERICA  M (Age 22)
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« Reply #1407 on: May 07, 2009, 06:27:18 PM »

DOROTHY A. BIDWELL
36788 RTE 12E
CLAYTON
NY ZIP 13624
Race
White Ethnicity
Not Hispanic Height
5'04 Weight
140
Date of Birth
Dec 4, 1974 Hair Color
Brown Eye Color
Hazel Sex
Female
Risk Level
2 Corrective Lenses
 Offender ID
7989



Conviction Date
Apr 20, 1998 Arrest Agency
Watertown City Police Department Supervising Agency
Jefferson County Probation Victim Sex Age
Male, 5 Years



Conviction Charges



Statute Title
PL Statute Section
130.65 Statute Subsection
 Offense Class
D
Offense Category
F Offense Degree
1 Offense Description
Sexual Abuse-1st Degree



Sentence



Probation Sentence
Probation Sente Incarceration Sentence
Probation Sentence: 5 Year(s). Max. Expiration Of Sentence
APR 20, 1998



Scars/Marks/Tattoos



none found

Aliases



Last
BIDWELL First
DOROTHY Middle
 



Last
DOYLE First
DOROTHY Middle
A



Last
NEE First
FULLER Middle
 



Vehicles



Vehicle License Plate
BMY8510 Vehicle State
NY Vehicle Year
1991 Vehicle Make/Model
Dodge Caravan
Vehicle Color
Blue



Vehicle License Plate
BMY8510 Vehicle State
NY Vehicle Year
1992 Vehicle Make/Model
Chevrolet Unknown
Vehicle Color
Red



Vehicle License Plate
DEZ3360 Vehicle State
NY Vehicle Year
1991 Vehicle Make/Model
Dodge Caravan
Vehicle Color
Blue



Vehicle License Plate
DLC7338 Vehicle State
NY Vehicle Year
1991 Vehicle Make/Model
Isuzu Rodeo
Vehicle Color
Blue



Vehicle License Plate
DXN1323 Vehicle State
NY Vehicle Year
1987 Vehicle Make/Model
Ford Bronco/BroncoII
Vehicle Color
 



Vehicle License Plate
DXN1323 Vehicle State
NY Vehicle Year
2001 Vehicle Make/Model
Ford Taurus
Vehicle Color
Tan



Vehicle License Plate
DXW1323 Vehicle State
NY Vehicle Year
1987 Vehicle Make/Model
Ford Bronco/BroncoII
Vehicle Color
Blue



Special Conditions



Special Conditions
Special Conditions: ORDER OF PROTECTION, 4 MONTHS HOME DETENTION.


You seeing all the names with this one *cough* gal?




BIDWELL is new to me...where did that come from?
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« Reply #1408 on: May 07, 2009, 06:31:02 PM »

Is this the same one?

Dorothy's Friends & Family (2 of 2)
Name City, State
David Bidwell Watertown, Ny
Carl Bidwell Watertown, Ny

Where Dorothy's Lived (3 of 3)
City, State
Watertown, NY
Calcium, NY
Felts Mills, NY
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« Reply #1409 on: May 07, 2009, 06:31:37 PM »


unreal, see this crap is generational with these people.  what the heck are they growing up believing? !!!

this old one is the one I was wondering if the shot one was related too.  gee.  whoever shot the auto parts delivery should have went and shot the other two  Monkey Devil!

Yes it is!  That's what I said early on.  When we find this kind of abuse done by someone, may as well look to the older family members to see if it's possible they also are abusers.  Of course it doesn't happen 100% of the time, yet a good majority of time, where there's one, we'll find more. 

It's also why I don't believe Melissa acted alone.  What she supposedly has done to Sandra, she learned somewhere.  And very likely she learned that by something similiar, (to some degree) having happened to her.  By someone.  So we begin looking at others, who very likely learned that by it having happened to them, and we look further etc.  It's a vicious cycle. 

And also is the reason I don't want Melissa (if there were others who are responsible) to go down for this alone.  I'm betting my next month's income there are many 'in the shadows', that hope to gosh Melissa keeps her mouth shut.  They ought to be going down right along with her.  IMO. 


I will make yet another observation to your very educated posts, there is also alot of female SO's associated with these individuals that we know are related; I have never seen that before.

back to searching..lol

 


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« Reply #1410 on: May 07, 2009, 07:40:06 PM »

((edit - old roommate not involved))
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« Reply #1411 on: May 07, 2009, 08:44:08 PM »

Blink this is what I have:

Sarah Jane Doyle
Born:  26 Jan 1902
Died:  Oct 1980 Kailua Kona, Hawaii, Hawaii, USA 

Marriage 1 Dan Sayre Beach
B 7 Dec 1897, Missouri
D 11 Jun 1955 Los Angeles

Children :

Child 1 Robert Beach
B 7 Jul 1922 Los Angeles
D 19 Jun 2001 LA, CA

Child 2 Florence Virginia Beach
B 22 Feb 1925 Los Angeles
D 18 Dec 1994 Covina, CA

married

Jas E Ware - father Ernest Alfred Ware mother Esther Elva Phillips
b abt 1923

Child 3 Dan Sayre Beach
B 17 Dec 1926 Los Angeles
D Feb 1986 La Mirada, LA, CA


Marriage 2 Ralph Owens

Marriage 3 Joe Piershmont


do you by chance have the sisters of sarah Jane doyle?  she is born the right age for unknown doyle who married ronald S lawless b 1900(father of ronald Sutton Lawless, who married elaine bevilacqua, who shared phone with gary daune lawless, son of missing gary lawless)

or could her mother be a "sutton"?

I'm still sorting over here.
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« Reply #1412 on: May 08, 2009, 12:10:51 AM »

Good evening Monkeys!!!!!!!!!!!

Wow when I saw the new thread was posted I thought you all had finished linking everything up while I was gone.  We are really making progress though aren't we.  Anyway I have a quick question. What does the little red "BUSTED" icon with a camera beside of it mean when you are looking up stuff on the white pages?  I've been seeing quite a few of them. Anybody know?
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« Reply #1413 on: May 08, 2009, 12:57:22 AM »

Good evening Monkeys!!!!!!!!!!!

Wow when I saw the new thread was posted I thought you all had finished linking everything up while I was gone.  We are really making progress though aren't we.  Anyway I have a quick question. What does the little red "BUSTED" icon with a camera beside of it mean when you are looking up stuff on the white pages?  I've been seeing quite a few of them. Anybody know?

I figured it out.. It means alternate ad goes here, like an ad to put an ad there. duh.. Sorry for the o/t.
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« Reply #1414 on: May 08, 2009, 01:01:21 AM »

just for info

if anyone runs into anyone in SAN DIMAS, check it for this address
Address: 213 W 3RD ST
SAN DIMAS, CA 91773
Reported Date: 12/1999

this is another address of Ronald S lawless married to elaine bevilacqua or delores M abang.  where elaine shares phone # with gary duane lawless the son, brother to timothy john lawless. 


I don't know if this helps or not:


PATIK, NANCY  LYNN
Age: 48

Associated names:
LAWLESS, NANCY L

SAN DIMAS, CA
WEST LINN, OR
BETHLEHEM, PA
SAUGERTIES, NY

    * LEIGHTON, KATHLEEN  A (Age 52)
    * TROINCALE, KAREN  L (Age 55)
    * PATIK, THOMAS  GEORGE (Age 56)
    * PATICK, GEORGE  J
    * PATIK, LORRAINE  M (Age 86)
    * PATIK, BENJAMIN  THOMAS (Age 31)
    * PATIK, JENNIFER  ANNE (Age 36)
    * PATIK, TOM
    * PATIK, TOM  G

2.    LAWLESS, RONALD  TR
Age: 108

Associated names:
LAWLESS, RON S
LAWLESS, RONALD S

ALTADENA, CA
SAN DIMAS, CA
SAN GABRIEL, CA
MONROVIA, CA

    * LAWLESS, DEE
    * LAWLESS, DOLORES  M (Age 55)
    * LAWLESS, ELAINE  C (Age 68)
    * LAWLESS, TODD  ALFRED (Age 37)
    * LAWLESS, ERICA  M (Age 22)


3.    GARDENER, SHEILA  F
Age: 37

Associated names:
GARDNER, SHEILA F
LAWLESS, SHEILA A
LAWLESS, SHEILA F
SHANK, SHEILA F

ELSMERE, KY
FONTANA, CA
RANCHO CUCAMONGA, CA
REDLANDS, CA
SAN DIMAS, CA
UPLAND, CA
FLORENCE, KY
FOSTER, KY

    * PAYNE, JENNIFER  MARIE (Age 36)
    * SHANK, NATHAN  P (Age 38)
    * RUNYEN, SHERRI  MARIE (Age 45)
    * LAWLESS, SHIELA (Age 37)
    * LAWLESS, MARK  LEROY (Age 40)
    * GARDNER, COLIN  M (Age 45)
    * GARDNER, WALTER  MALCOLM (Age 43)
    * GARDNER, SYLVIA  MARGARET (Age 75)
    * GARDNER, GEORGE  M (Age 81)


4.    LAWLESS, TODD  ALFRED
Age: 37

SAN DIMAS, CA
MONROVIA, CA
ALTADENA, CA

    * LAWLESS, DEE
    * LAWLESS, RONALD  TR (Age 108)
    * LAWLESS, DOLORES  M (Age 55)
    * LAWLESS, ELAINE  C (Age 68)
    * LAWLESS, ERICA  M (Age 22)


yes, sheila lawless is a new name I did not have.  I had the others, but not her.  so I will try to figure out who she is

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« Reply #1415 on: May 08, 2009, 01:04:41 AM »

There are two Elaine Camille Bevilacqua in Broward county Florida

One married 15 Nov 1974
one married 12 Jul 1996

There is also one showing as living in Monrovia, Ca

Christine Lawless

married

Mr Doyle

Children:

Sarah Jane Doyle
B 26 jan 1902
D oct 1980 Kailua Kona, Hawaii



Sarah Jane DOyle

married

Dan Sayre Beach
B 7 dec 1897, Missouri
D 11 June 1955 Los angeles


Children:

Florence Virginia Beach
B 22 Feb 1925
D 18 Dec 1994 Azusa California

married

James Ernest Ware
B 19 Dec 1923

Children:

Male Ware
Robert Ware


the EC bevilacqua in monrovia CA is the one who married ronald sutton Lawless.
she has a sister who Linda who married Andrews, and a sister Darlene who married DEAN(surname) I have not had time to go through the sisters yet.  I am still trying to figure out how missing gary d. lawless fits into this family, but I know 100000% he does.
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« Reply #1416 on: May 08, 2009, 01:06:28 AM »

DOROTHY A. BIDWELL
36788 RTE 12E
CLAYTON
NY ZIP 13624
Race
White Ethnicity
Not Hispanic Height
5'04 Weight
140
Date of Birth
Dec 4, 1974 Hair Color
Brown Eye Color
Hazel Sex
Female
Risk Level
2 Corrective Lenses
 Offender ID
7989



Conviction Date
Apr 20, 1998 Arrest Agency
Watertown City Police Department Supervising Agency
Jefferson County Probation Victim Sex Age
Male, 5 Years



Conviction Charges



Statute Title
PL Statute Section
130.65 Statute Subsection
 Offense Class
D
Offense Category
F Offense Degree
1 Offense Description
Sexual Abuse-1st Degree



Sentence



Probation Sentence
Probation Sente Incarceration Sentence
Probation Sentence: 5 Year(s). Max. Expiration Of Sentence
APR 20, 1998



Scars/Marks/Tattoos



none found

Aliases



Last
BIDWELL First
DOROTHY Middle
 



Last
DOYLE First
DOROTHY Middle
A



Last
NEE First
FULLER Middle
 



Vehicles



Vehicle License Plate
BMY8510 Vehicle State
NY Vehicle Year
1991 Vehicle Make/Model
Dodge Caravan
Vehicle Color
Blue



Vehicle License Plate
BMY8510 Vehicle State
NY Vehicle Year
1992 Vehicle Make/Model
Chevrolet Unknown
Vehicle Color
Red



Vehicle License Plate
DEZ3360 Vehicle State
NY Vehicle Year
1991 Vehicle Make/Model
Dodge Caravan
Vehicle Color
Blue



Vehicle License Plate
DLC7338 Vehicle State
NY Vehicle Year
1991 Vehicle Make/Model
Isuzu Rodeo
Vehicle Color
Blue



Vehicle License Plate
DXN1323 Vehicle State
NY Vehicle Year
1987 Vehicle Make/Model
Ford Bronco/BroncoII
Vehicle Color
 



Vehicle License Plate
DXN1323 Vehicle State
NY Vehicle Year
2001 Vehicle Make/Model
Ford Taurus
Vehicle Color
Tan



Vehicle License Plate
DXW1323 Vehicle State
NY Vehicle Year
1987 Vehicle Make/Model
Ford Bronco/BroncoII
Vehicle Color
Blue



Special Conditions



Special Conditions
Special Conditions: ORDER OF PROTECTION, 4 MONTHS HOME DETENTION.


You seeing all the names with this one *cough* gal?




I certainly am seeing all those names.  I also see all of those vehicle descriptions which should be checked against any seen in doenetwork.  If I ever have time I will look.
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« Reply #1417 on: May 08, 2009, 01:19:26 AM »

I'm making the lawless family pedigree right now.
I'll have it done tonight
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« Reply #1418 on: May 08, 2009, 01:23:11 AM »

DD, I wonder if under alias Nee Fuller the nee would be maiden name, so maybe Dorothy Fuller?  Just a thought.
A truly horrid individual.
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« Reply #1419 on: May 08, 2009, 01:25:17 AM »

Good job DD -- I'm on the east coast of US -- it is wayyyy past my bedtime.  Again,
great job!!
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