The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection

[doubledecker]

ok I recognize a lot of these names from something I have in my notes somewhere. 
this is timothy JAMES lawless, but some of the other names on this list I recognize with something I have.  So I will have to find that.

all below are listed at this address.  this is the address of the mountain view roofing company in aurora Colorado.  The blue names I recognize from something I have somewhere in my notes.  This is timothy JAMES lawless, but I have him somewhere in my notes also.

16270 WAGONTRAIL AURORA, CO
PORT BYRON, IL
DAVENPORT, IA
AURORA, CO
DENVER, CO

Possible Relatives:

CROWE, JEANIE MARIE (Age 41)
CROWELL, APRIL JILL (Age 32)




 AURORA, CO

Possible Relatives:

WALLACE, ROBERT W (Age 58)
WALLACE, KRISTINA
WALLACE, ROBERT JAMES (Age 26)
WALLACE, STEVEN MICHAEL (Age 24)
WALLACE, MICHAEL WILLIAM (Age 22)
WALLACE, TERRY (Age 34)
WALLACE, ROBERT J

Possible Roommates / Associates:

LAWLESS, TIMOTHY JAMES (Age 47)


 AURORA, CO
ROSAMOND, CA

Possible Relatives:

FISHER, MADELEINE M (Age 78)
FISHER, ADELINE M (Age 91)
FISHER, YOEMAN C (Age 95)
FISHER, JAMES MATTHEW (Age 43)
FISHER, JIM
FISHER, SAMUEL

Possible Roommates / Associates:

HILBER, STEPHANIE ADENE (Age 41)
ORTULL, BARBARA A (Age 59)
FELLER, MATTHEW JAMES (Age 29)
RAMIREZ, ANDREA M (Age 33)



 AURORA, CO
GARLAND, TX
 Possible Relatives:

LAWLESS, WILLIAM MICHAEL (Age 49)
LAWLESS, PATRICK A
LAWLESS, WILLIAM M (Age 79)
LAWLESS, VERA E
LAWLESS, JOHN JEROME (Age 45)
LAWLESS, NORA E (Age 77)
LAWLESS, RICHARD F (Age 44)
LAWLESS, SUSANNE LYNETTE (Age 47)
LAWLESS, JOHN J

Possible Roommates / Associates:

WALLACE, SUSAN M (Age 54)




AURORA, CO

Possible Relatives:

CROWN, BRETT A
CROWN, REBECCA VORHAUER (Age 63)
 



AURORA, CO
CENTENNIAL, CO
ENGLEWOOD, CO

Possible Relatives:

VORHAUER, TODD ERIC (Age 39)
VORHAUER, THOMAS A (Age 62)
VORAUHER, MELVA J (Age 59)
VORHAUER, SHANA LEIGH (Age 32)



 PORT BYRON, IL
AURORA, CO
DENVER, CO

Possible Relatives:

CROWE, RANDALL HOWARD (Age 48)
HUTCHINS, BOBBI R
HUTCHINS, BOBBI A
CROWELL, MARK ANDREW (Age 45)
WATTERS, MICHELLE RENE (Age 40)



 AURORA, CO
PORT BYRON, IL
DAYTON, VA
RANCHO CUCAMONGA, CA

Possible Relatives:

CROWN, DENNIS
CROWN, BRETT A



MONUMENT, CO
REDONDO BEACH, CA
WOODLAND PARK, CO
DENVER, CO
COLORADO SPRINGS, CO
COMMERCE TOWNSHIP, MI
GOODRICH, MI
BLOOMFIELD HILLS, MI
ENGLEWOOD, CO
SPOKANE, WA
AURORA, CO

Possible Relatives:

HOUSER, DANIEL EARL (Age 51)
NELSON, FRANK O (Age 59)
NELSON, GREGORY L (Age 48)
COLEGROVE, SARA A (Age 40)
MCCONNELL, ADRIENNE EILEEN (Age 41)
NELSON, KATHY L (Age 58)
ONELSON, FRANK
NELSON, ALAN VINCENT (Age 38)
HAYDEN, KATHRYN LOUISE (Age 59)

Possible Roommates / Associates:

SHELDON, SHIRLEY J (Age 75)
BLUMER, FRED E (Age 50)
HASH, DAVID B (Age 25)




 W BLOOMFIELD, MI
WEST BLOOMFIELD, MI
SPOKANE, WA
COMMERCE TOWNSHIP, MI
AURORA, CO
WHITE LAKE, MI
WOODLAND PARK, CO
COLORADO SPRINGS, CO
DENVER, CO
ENGLEWOOD, CO
LAKE ORION, MI
WURTSMITH A F B, MI

 Possible Relatives:

HOUSER, DAWN MARIE (Age 49)
FUNKHOUSER, AN
FUNKHOUSER, ANTHONY S
COLEGROVE, SARA A (Age 40)
LAWRENCE, JACQUELINE HEATHER (Age 29)
HOUSER, BRAD W
HOUSER, SARA A (Age 40)
HOUSER, JACQUELINE H (Age 29)

Possible Roommates / Associates:

COLEGROVE, DONALD D (Age 75)
SHELDON, SHIRLEY J (Age 75)
BLUMER, FRED E (Age 50)
MATUSHIN, NEIL A (Age 42)
LAWRENCE, MATTHEW STEVEN (Age 32)




LAS VEGAS, NV
KENOSHA, WI
VAN NUYS, CA
AURORA, CO
ENGLEWOOD, CO
LANCASTER, CA

Possible Relatives:

ELLIS, MICHAEL FLORENCE (Age 80)
ELLIS, FLORENCE P (Age 80)

Possible Roommates / Associates:

HOUSER, DANIEL EARL (Age 52)
HOUSER, DAWN MARIE (Age 50)
KORHONEN, JEFFERY DAVID (Age 39)
FUTTY, STEPHEN EDWARD (Age 53)
KORHONEN, DEBORAH JANE (Age 37)




 AURORA, CO

Possible Relatives:

CROWN, DENNIS
CROWN, REBECCA VORHAUER (Age 63)




 AURORA, CO
DENVER, CO
LOVELAND, CO
FORT COLLINS, CO

Possible Relatives:

LYON, LESLIE J (Age 53)
BLUMER, JOHN FANDJEANH (Age 84)

Possible Roommates / Associates:

HOUSER, DANIEL EARL (Age 52)
HOUSER, DAWN MARIE (Age 50)




AURORA, CO
DENVER, CO
FORT COLLINS, CO

Possible Relatives:

BLUMER, FRED E (Age 49)




 AURORA, CO

Possible Relatives:

LAWLESS, TIMOTHY JAMES (Age 46)
LAWLESS, WILLIAM E



AURORA, CO

Possible Relatives:

WALLACE, SUSAN M (Age 54)



AURORA, CO

Possible Relatives:

LAWLESS, TIMOTHY JAMES (Age 46)
LAWLESS, JOANNA MARIE (Age 23) 

[doubledecker]

Hi, I am new here, but have been reading this thread for days ha!.
 It consumes a lot of my time and I have been researching a little
myself. I should say alot! And I don't want to post anything because
I don't know if its am correct. But if I find something that is relevant
and true I will ask first to make sure its ok.

Anyways, I will be gone for the day.

I hope all the Mothers have a very Beautiful mothers Day!!

Love

Hi, WELCOME !!!
please post whatever you THINK, this is the thread to HASH THROUGH it all.  We brainstorm here.  Whatever you find, just toss it out here, and we can all look at it and see if it matches up with something we run into.  We don't know where all this stuff fits, we just stick it out here, and then later someone runs into matches, and we start hooking it up.  there is no way ONLY ONE of us can remember all these names so we just stick the info out here and hopefully someone else sees the match. 

[Dolce]

Love,
Dolce + 2

[love4ever]

Thank You DD!

When I return later I will go through what I have saved, if i think it
is relevant I will post. also i might have a few questions or some
brief theories I have thought of.
I find this to be very interesting, and intuition also tells me there is
something missing. I am in my last week semester of college so i have finals.
This thread has consumed me. lol, but I have still been getting my studies done.
I always have to come and check things out here. You guys are awesome!!

Love~

[Brenda in KY]

Dang, I just messed this quote up....I was trying to keep from quoting the entire post.  Anyway....about the Mountain View Roofing Co....

I seem to remember that on a post a while back that the Harris church had a reference to Mount View.....I'll look for it if nobody can remember it.  Right now I am following the 'money trail' so to speak......

[doubledecker]

names connected to timothy James Lawless & the Mountain View Roofing Company in Aurora Colorado

LAWLESS, WILLIAM MICHAEL (Age 49)
LAWLESS, PATRICK A
LAWLESS, WILLIAM M (Age 79)
LAWLESS, VERA E
LAWLESS, JOHN JEROME (Age 45)
LAWLESS, NORA E (Age 77)
LAWLESS, RICHARD F (Age 44)
LAWLESS, SUSANNE LYNETTE (Age 47)
LAWLESS, JOHN J


__________________________________
LAWLESS, NORA E (Age 77)husband must be william below
  GARLAND, TX must have relatives in Texas
AURORA, CO
COMMERCE CITY, CO

Possible Relatives:

LAWLESS, PATRICK A
LAWLESS, WILLIAM M (Age 79) this must be the husband of Nora E aboveLAWLESS, TIMOTHY JAMES (Age 46)
LAWLESS, VERA E
LAWLESS, JOHN JEROME (Age 45)
LAWLESS, RICHARD F (Age 44)
LAWLESS, SUSANNE LYNETTE (Age 47)
LAWLESS, TERESA A (Age 51)
LAWLESS, JOE LAWRENCE (Age 45)

_______________________

LAWLESS, SUSANNE LYNETTE (Age 47)

Associated names:

HAAKINSON, SUSANNE L
 LAUDICK, SUSANNE L
 GARLAND, TX
AURORA, CO
WICHITA, KS
PEORIA, AZ
LITTLETON, CO
PHOENIX, AZ

Possible Relatives:

LAWLESS, JOHN JEROME (Age 45)
LAWLESS, NORA E (Age 77) most likely the mother ?
LAWLESS, RICHARD F (Age 44)
LAWLESS, TIMOTHY JAMES (Age 46)
LAUDICK, DAVID A (Age 50) must be a husband ?
LAUDICK, TONY
LAWLESS, JOE LAWRENCE (Age 45)
LAWLESS, JOHN J (Age 45)
LAWLESS, NORA E 
_____________________________

LAWLESS, JOHN JEROME (Age 45)

Associated names:

 SULLIVAN JR, JOHN    who is this? him under another name? or someone else?
 AURORA, CO
DENVER, CO

Possible Relatives:

LAWLESS, PATRICK A
LAWLESS, WILLIAM M (Age 79) must be the father
LAWLESS, TIMOTHY JAMES (Age 46)
LAWLESS, NORA E (Age 77) must be the mother
LAWLESS, VERA E
LAWLESS, RICHARD F (Age 44)
LAWLESS, ANDREA
LAWLESS, SUSANNE LYNETTE (Age 47)
MCCARTNEY, EILEEN M (Age 55)  have a mccartney with timothy john lawless, and with another line also, have to look

  LAWLESS, NORA E
 AURORA, CO

Possible Relatives:

LAWLESS, SUSANNE LYNETTE (Age 47)
LAWLESS, RICHARD F (Age 44)
LAWLESS, JOHN JEROME (Age 45)
LAWLESS, JOE LAWRENCE (Age 45)
______________________________
 
LAWLESS, RICHARD F (Age 44)
  GARLAND, TX
AURORA, CO

Possible Relatives:

LAWLESS, WILLIAM M (Age 79)
LAWLESS, PATRICK A
LAWLESS, VERA E
LAWLESS, NORA E (Age 77)
LAWLESS, JOHN JEROME (Age 45)
LAWLESS, TIMOTHY JAMES (Age 46)
LAWLESS, SUSANNE LYNETTE (Age 47)
LAWLESS, JOE LAWRENCE (Age 45)
LAWLESS, MARGARET M (Age 47) new nameb]
____________________________

LAWLESS, VERA E
 DENVER, CO
COMMERCE CITY, CO
AURORA, CO

Possible Relatives:

LAWLESS, WILLIAM M (Age 79)
LAWLESS, PATRICK A
LAWLESS, TIMOTHY JAMES (Age 46)
LAWLESS, NORA E (Age 77)
LAWLESS, JOHN JEROME (Age 45)
LAWLESS, RICHARD F (Age 44)
LAWLESS, TERESA A (Age 51)
LAWLESS, JOE LAWRENCE (Age 45)
LAWLESS, MARGARET M (Age 47) 
_______________________________________

LAWLESS, TERESA A (Age 51)

Associated names:

 MORALES, TERESA A
  ENGLEWOOD, CO
SUPERIOR, CO
NORTHGLENN, CO
COLORADO SPRINGS, CO
AURORA, CO
DENVER, CO
HOLLOMAN AIR FORCE BASE, NM someone in military, so new mexico must be a military addressALAMOGORDO, NM

Possible Relatives:

LAWLESS, WILLIAM M (Age 79)
LAWLESS, VERA E
LAWLESS, NORA E (Age 77)
LAWLESS, JOHN JEROME (Age 45)
MORALES GURULE, MICHELLE M (Age 47)
MORALES, KATHARINA (Age 54)
MORALES, JAMES FRANK (Age 79) her father-in-law?
LAW, DAWN ELLEN (Age 43)
MORALES, JAMES F (Age 51) must be her husband

Possible Roommates / Associates:

TRAVIS, SEAN MICHAEL (Age 39)
BROSET, AMY S (Age 36)
HUTSON, DAVID TRUMAN (Age 69)
LYONS,
LEYNA ANDRAYA (Age 28)
______________________________________________
 

LAWLESS, PATRICK A (Age 42)
  AURORA, CO
DENVER, CO
COMMERCE CITY, CO

Possible Relatives:

LAWLESS, WILLIAM M (Age 79)
LAWLESS, TIMOTHY JAMES (Age 46)
LAWLESS, NORA E (Age 77)
LAWLESS, JOHN JEROME (Age 45)
LAWLESS, VERA E
LAWLESS, RICHARD F (Age 44)
LAWLESS, JOE LAWRENCE (Age 45)
LAWLESS, MARGARET M (Age 47) 

___________________________________

LAWLESS, JOE LAWRENCE (Age 45)

Associated names:

 LAWLESS, JOSEPH L
 LAWLESS, JOE LAWLESS

Possible Employment / Business Associations:

 SEAFOOD PALACE, INC
  WICHITA, KS
GARLAND, TX
AURORA, CO
SAINT PAUL, MN
RAPID CITY, SD
DENVER, CO

Possible Relatives:

LAWLESS, CHAPANETA R (Age 54)new name
LAWLESS, PATRICK A
LAWLESS, WILLIAM M (Age 79)
LAWLESS, RICHARD F (Age 44)
LAWLESS, VERA E
LAWLESS, NORA E (Age 77)
LAWLESS, JOHN JEROME (Age 45)
LAWLESS, TIMOTHY JAMES (Age 46)
LAWLESS, ANDREA 

SEAFOOD PALACE, INC
 Derby, KS
Wichita, KS    
LAWLESS, JOE LAWLESS
(DIRECTOR)
NICHOLS, MERRELL NICHOLS nichols with CLL line
(DIRECTOR)
WARREN, RAY WARREN warren with CLL line
(PRESIDENT)
WARREN, RAY WARREN
(AGENT)

associated businessesHILLTOP PLAZA ADDITION PROPERTY OWNERS ASSOCIATION
WFA, INC
LANDEL, INC
__________________________

[doubledecker]

Dang, I just messed this quote up....I was trying to keep from quoting the entire post.  Anyway....about the Mountain View Roofing Co....

I seem to remember that on a post a while back that the Harris church had a reference to Mount View.....I'll look for it if nobody can remember it.  Right now I am following the 'money trail' so to speak......

yes the mountain view connection

CLL pastored the church in Mountain View California which Harris started.  Then they merged the mountain view church with the clover road baptist church which was called something else at the time, trying to remembe this without looking it up.  the mountain view church turned over all its assets and property to the other church.  the sister-in-law and CLL were listed with the National roofing company.  The other roofing company is the LAWLESS roofing company up in redding and oregon with Maudie Gilmore and the other lawless line who also has the cattle company, the one in oregon across the street from the cemetery also. 

[Brenda in KY]

Dang, I just messed this quote up....I was trying to keep from quoting the entire post.  Anyway....about the Mountain View Roofing Co....

I seem to remember that on a post a while back that the Harris church had a reference to Mount View.....I'll look for it if nobody can remember it.  Right now I am following the 'money trail' so to speak......

yes the mountain view connection

CLL pastored the church in Mountain View California which Harris started.  Then they merged the mountain view church with the clover road baptist church which was called something else at the time, trying to remembe this without looking it up.  the mountain view church turned over all its assets and property to the other church.  the sister-in-law and CLL were listed with the National roofing company.  The other roofing company is the LAWLESS roofing company up in redding and oregon with Maudie Gilmore and the other lawless line who also has the cattle company, the one in oregon across the street from the cemetery also. 

Doc #       95031884
Book    
Page    
Recording Date    4/6/1995
Recording Time    08:00A
Document Description    FICTITIOUS BUSINESS NAME
Number of Pages    1
Documentary Fee    
Grantor Name(s)    Grantee Name(s)
MOUNTAIN VIEW CHRISTIAN ACADEMY    
SILVA CARLOS M    
SILVA DOROTHY A    

http://www.co.san-joaquin.ca.us/Recorder/grantorgrantee/displayresultsindex.asp?page=2&DocumentStartDate=01/01/1975&DocumentEndDate=05/10/2009&NameSearch=All&Name=mountain+view&DocumentNumber=&BookNumber=&RecordingDate=&DocumentCode=*&BkSeries=0

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Doc #       95031884
Book    
Page    
Recording Date    4/6/1995
Recording Time    08:00A
Document Description    FICTITIOUS BUSINESS NAME
Number of Pages    1
Documentary Fee    
Grantor Name(s)    Grantee Name(s)
MOUNTAIN VIEW CHRISTIAN ACADEMY    
SILVA CARLOS M    
SILVA DOROTHY A    
_______________________________
this post was all messed up LOL so I snipped all the top because it was stringing out all over the page, see previous post for previous info

yes the mountain view connection

CLL pastored the church in Mountain View California which Harris started.  Then they merged the mountain view church with the clover road baptist church which was called something else at the time, trying to remembe this without looking it up.  the mountain view church turned over all its assets and property to the other church.  the sister-in-law and CLL were listed with the National roofing company.  The other roofing company is the LAWLESS roofing company up in redding and oregon with Maudie Gilmore and the other lawless line who also has the cattle company, the one in oregon across the street from the cemetery also. 
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SILVA, CARLOS M (Age 57)

Associated names:

 SILVACARLOS, M 
MANTECA, CA
Possible Relatives:

SILVA, DOROTHY A (Age 56)
SILVA, KIMBERLY A (Age 26)
SILVA, TIFFANY M (Age 24) 

[doubledecker]

speaking of Silva names
one of the owners of the bacchetti (spelling) dairy who owned the holding pond where sandra was deposited, is named SILVA.  bacchetti is only part owner of that dairy.  Melissa stated she had been out there before.  there is other housing on that property down at the dead end of the road on the dairy land.  probably houses workers ? I have the address somewhere of one of the mobiles on that property.  I've done a lot of research on that whole area, and have done a lot of research all around the tracy area for years, so I am always interested in any connections to melissa who are in and around the outskirts of tracy or the area south of tracy/west of modesto, and going up the hill to the bay area out of livermore.

If I ever get time I will jump over on the regular cantu case threads and post, but right now I want to keep figuring out what that church and the lawless/harris famlies have been up to for generations.

[Blink34]

This appeared on my site from a poster awaiting approval here, so I thought I might help her out until she gets a vine.
Fron Lynbit:

The prayer and supplication that must surround MH and all involved is astounding. I noted DD mentioned curiosity about Connie’s family line at Scared Monkeys and followed up. I’m posting a bit here as I await Admin. Approval at SM. What an auspicious heritage of ministry on grandma’s side! Gpa’s pastorship is just the tip of a missionary ancestry. Gpa’s apparent estrangement and Connie’s seeming denial now make perfect sense to me; the horror of all this is magnified beyond belief in the context of this family’s dedication to promoting the doctrine of God’s will for how we are live our lives.

Here is a bit of Gma Connie’s family line:

Name: Constance Lorene Harris
Birth Date: 6 Aug 1941
Mother’s Maiden Name: Cooper
Birth County: Monterey

Daughter of A.A. Harris
Name: Arthur Alanzo Harris
Social Security #: 54XXXXXXXXX
Birth Date: 19 Jun 1914
Birthplace: Curtis, Arkansas
Death Date: 16 Nov 1989
Death Place: Salinas, Monterey, CA
His father: William Earl Harris
His Mother: Minnie Lucille Sloan
Spouse: Irene Cooper (Born: 1921)

Daughter of Irene Harris nee Cooper
Name: Irene Cooper
Birth: 7 Aug 1921 in Wynona, Oklahoma, USA
Her Father: John Bailey (Willis) Cooper born 30 Nov 1880 in Jasper,Newton, AR, and died 1956 in , , California. He was the son of 2. Henary Thomas COOPER (2/12/1850) and 3. Sarah Jane CURRY (2/12/149 Tenn.)
Her Mother: Effie Joetta Smithson (married 6/23/1901 in Webbers Falls, Haskell,Ok.)
Spouse: Arthur Alonzo Harris (Born: 1914)

Connie’s maternal Gpa was “Elder John Cooper (who)…came from a long line of Missionary Baptists. His father and grandfather before him were Missionary Baptist Ministers and he was reared in the nurture and admonition of the Lord.” They are bio’d (along with uncles, cousins) in the following link, with ministry all over SW Indian Territory: Twentieth Century California Pastors
http://jrhenness4.home.comcast.net/~jrhenness4/calhac/book/pastors/pastors_03.htm
Her uncle (Irene’s bro-in-law) is Harless, with 3 generations of pastors, found at same website.

Connie’s paternal connection through A.A. Harris (”Art was saved May 10, 1938 in a bean field out side Salinas. “) is at http://jrhenness4.home.comcast.net/~jrhenness4/calhac/book/pastors/pastors_06.htm

I have been suspicious of the church in Tracy. I was ignorant of that denomination’s practice and operation –very foreign to my liturgical faith. I now believe this is no fly-by-night, storefront decoy operation. Could there still have been those who used it for their own evil doings? Of course! I’m a trained journalist, nothing surprises me. But I now do not believe that “the church” as an organization is involved in any enterprise that lead to precious Sandra’s torment. and that the evil, loathsome deed/s was the work of individuals “gone rogue.” Just my opinion.

The prayer and supplication that must surround MH and all involved is astounding.  I noted DD mentioned curiosity about Connie's family line at Scared Monkeys and followed up.  I'm posting a bit here as I await Admin. Approval at SM.  What an auspicious heritage of ministry on grandma's side!  Gpa's pastorship is just the tip of a missionary ancestry.  Gpa's apparent estrangement and Connie's seeming denial now make perfect sense to me;  the horror of all this is magnified beyond belief in the context of this family's dedication to promoting the doctrine of God's will for how we are live our lives.

Here is a bit of Gma Connie's family line:

Name:    Constance Lorene Harris
Birth Date:    6 Aug 1941
Mother's Maiden Name:    Cooper
Birth County:    Monterey

Daughter of A.A. Harris
Name:    Arthur Alanzo Harris
Social Security #:    54XXXXXXXXX
Birth Date:    19 Jun 1914
Birthplace:    Curtis, Arkansas
Death Date:    16 Nov 1989
Death Place:    Salinas, Monterey, CA
His father:  William Earl Harris    
His Mother: Minnie Lucille Sloan
Spouse:  Irene Cooper (Born: 1921)    

Daughter of Irene Harris nee Cooper
Name:   Irene Cooper
Birth:    7 Aug 1921 in Wynona, Oklahoma, USA
Her Father:   John Bailey (Willis) Cooper born 30 Nov 1880 in Jasper,Newton, AR, and died 1956 in , , California. He was the son of 2. Henary Thomas COOPER (2/12/1850) and 3. Sarah Jane CURRY (2/12/149 Tenn.)
Her Mother:     Effie Joetta Smithson (married 6/23/1901 in Webbers Falls, Haskell,Ok.)
Spouse:   Arthur Alonzo Harris (Born: 1914)

Connie's maternal Gpa was "Elder John Cooper (who)...came from a long line of Missionary Baptists. His father and grandfather before him were Missionary Baptist Ministers and he was reared in the nurture and admonition of the Lord."  They are bio'd (along with uncles, cousins) in the following link, with ministry all over SW Indian Territory:   Twentieth Century California Pastors   
 http://jrhenness4.home.comcast.net/~jrhenness4/calhac/book/pastors/pastors_03.htm
Her uncle (Irene's bro-in-law) is Harless, with 3 generations of pastors, found at same website.

 
Connie's paternal connection through A.A. Harris ("Art was saved May 10, 1938 in a bean field out side Salinas. ") is at   http://jrhenness4.home.comcast.net/~jrhenness4/calhac/book/pastors/pastors_06.htm

I have been suspicious of the church in Tracy.  I was ignorant of that denomination's practice and operation --very foreign to my liturgical faith.  I now believe this is no fly-by-night, storefront decoy operation.  Could there still have been those who used it for their own evil doings?  Of course!  I'm a trained journalist, nothing surprises me.  But I now do not believe that "the church" as an organization is involved in any enterprise that lead to precious Sandra's torment. and that the evil, loathsome deed/s was the work of individuals "gone rogue."   Just my opinion.

[Deenie]

Blink
Did you ever get a response from the Gal on the stop the predators baptist site???

[Blink34]

Blink
Did you ever get a response from the Gal on the stop the predators baptist site???

not yet Deenie

[Deenie]

Blink
Did you ever get a response from the Gal on the stop the predators baptist site???

not yet Deenie

Dang it ..that was quite a few days ago ... Hmm Darn it all ..

[Deenie]

Blink

Has this person " who is awaiting approval" on SM - actually joined SM ?
I am confused

[Blink34]

Blink

Has this person " who is awaiting approval" on SM - actually joined SM ?
I am confused

yes, she's awaiting approval, I think Klaas does those personally.
B

[little lulu]

Just passing through...reading about the person waiting approval.  I never got the approval email, just came back in after a week and typed in my user name and password and it worked...I had applied 2 months earlier and never heard back either,  maybe some of the mods should check into this...as it was by chance I figured out I was in.
I also read where Art Harris said he tried to join here and never got approved  as well and am wondering if the same thing happened to him.
Just saying.....
Keep up the good work in here, it's amazing what you monkey's have been doing.
God Bless Sandra's Mother today....

[doubledecker]

I have posted some of the reports so far over on the genealogy thread.  I have more to add, but thought I should get some of it on there so everyone can familiarize themself with the names of the first couple of generations.  I will be adding to that in the next few days and will repost the updated ones when I get a lot more added. 

[Blink34]

I have posted some of the reports so far over on the genealogy thread.  I have more to add, but thought I should get some of it on there so everyone can familiarize themself with the names of the first couple of generations.  I will be adding to that in the next few days and will repost the updated ones when I get a lot more added. 

DD
You have done an outstanding job. I was reviewing them earlier.
One thing I could not follow, was the Texas connection, who is Tx?
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hmm let me see what I put on there about tx... on the genealogy page?  or was that on this thread? 
on this thread I will highlight things that I have other info on that I have not put out here yet(just because I have not had time; try to put out the most important first).  I have been seeing a LOT of texas connections, so in my files I highlight the things that I see as I am going through info.  It will all make sense when I get it all out here.  sometimes I don't even remember why it is highlighted LOL...but when I get to that subject it makes it easy to scan and see it.. or when I get familiar with that subject, I'll already have them marked who to look at. 

right now, I can't say much about the texas line, other than it keeps popping up in the other lines, so I wonder who is down there.  I'll get it all out here eventually.  but as for texas, I have not really researched it other than I keep noticing people live in tx. 

if there is anything in the genealogy thread that is confusing, let me know and I can fix it or explain it more.  Right now just trying to get the reports on there with the names and locations and how people are related.  maybe I need to explain things I put on there?  any suggestions?