Lively Case Discussion #540 11/1 - 11/5/2006

[klaasend]

Anyone have a recent picture of Kawish by chance?

The photo in the who's who in Aruba can't be very old.  Maybe a year or so.

[SunFreak2]

Good evening all you beautiful & wonderful monkeys.  It's so good to be here.  I just spent the last 10 hours in the Emergency Room. What a nightmare day I've had.

[Kat_Gram]

I just went to ISA and Werner is still listed as the headmaster.
There was a teacher who went to Africa for the summer. Summer of 2005 after the school year was over. Never heard any more about it.
Pictures taken near end of school by this teacher. Must have come back by now. !  !  
This would have to put rest one way or another any injuries (internet  rumors ) that Joran had that day.

Well Dr. Baden said one night on TV that Joran had scratches on him.  He didn't just pull that off the internet.  I think he knew something.

Well, I hope so too. If Joran had injuries ie scratches, why didn't anyone see them that Monday night ? There was quite a group there. It was dark outside at the Sloots, but they all trundled off to the HI where they were in the lobby. Also, I don't know why the black eye question was asked and I don't understand the answer given. As far as evidence, there was no evidence that Joran had any injuries. None were noted, same for Guido.There are a few more questions where I do not know why the answer was what it was.  I do not know where Dr. Baden got his information from, but it was not first hand because he never travelled to Aruba and as far as I know, he did not examine Joran.
And, I still think that the J2K are guilty regardless of these questions of mine. OK ? These Q's and A's were not put to them the way they are posted, there must have been some sort of context.
I think that there was a lot of Chit talking from school kids that started some of this.

[klaasend]

Good evening all you beautiful & wonderful monkeys.  It's so good to be here.  I just spent the last 10 hours in the Emergency Room. What a nightmare day I've had.

OMG what happened?  Are you OK, your family OK?

[dkpen]

Good evening all you beautiful & wonderful monkeys.  It's so good to be here.  I just spent the last 10 hours in the Emergency Room. What a nightmare day I've had.

SunFreak everything ok?

[Grande]

holding my breathe hoping all is well sunfreak...

[Kat_Gram]

Ok, while I am waiting for sunFreak to answer. I hope everything is good. And BTW, good job on sending all of the stuff to Mr. DeVries.

..
Shango, There has been some research by ppl as to who Shango & Simian were. I do not know, no one will stick their necks out or discuss.
Grande ..Maybe Klaasend or San or someone will email you or let you know who they are and why. I do not need to be in the know.

[dkpen]

Thanks Klaasend, got the pictures and printed the purple one. Looks great!

God bless~

[tcumom]

sunfreak ~ are you okay?  what on earth happened?

[SunFreak2]

Good evening all you beautiful & wonderful monkeys.  It's so good to be here.  I just spent the last 10 hours in the Emergency Room. What a nightmare day I've had.

OMG what happened?  Are you OK, your family OK?

I was the patient.  I am having excrutiating pains in my left lower abdomen.  I was poked, prodded and examined in every nook & cranny.  I had a CT, ulrasound, biopsies, you name it.

This jerk male Dr who I saw first, comes in my room and says to me - "How long have you had that mass in your abdomen?"  I said what mass??? He says that big tumor that is 5" by 6".  I was dumbfounded.  Then he proceeds to tell me that I have ovarian cancer.    

Then another male Dr came in and said I was being admitted for emergency surgery.  I'm still dumbfounded and wondering WTH.

Finally I get to see the OB/GYN who tells me I have a large cyst on my ovary and it needs to come out within the week.

The first male Dr at first wouldn't give me anything for pain, then he turns around and gives me IV Dilaudid (which is a very heavy duty pain killer).  When it's time to go home he gives me Tylenol #3, which to me is like putting a birth control pill in your armpit to prevent pregnancy.

I just cannot believe this man waltzed in the room with a diagnosis of ovarian cancer without anything to back it up.  Thank God I knew that one can't make a definitive diagnosis of CA the way he did.  What an idiot.  That hospital will be hearing from me about him.

[Grande]

Ok, while I am waiting for sunFreak to answer. I hope everything is good. And BTW, good job on sending all of the stuff to Mr. DeVries.

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Shango, There has been some research by ppl as to who Shango & Simian were. I do not know, no one will stick their necks out or discuss.
Grande ..Maybe Klaasend or San or someone will email you or let you know who they are and why. I do not need to be in the know.

Thanks Kat... here is what I know about the Shango posts;

Originated from the Plantation / Ft. Lauderdale area...

Many references to Santeria / Charles Croes practices Santeria, not making any implications only posting that for reference purposes...

The ARUBA TOURISM Authority is located in FT. Lauderdale...

Gabriel Leo lives in Plantation Florida only a couple miles from the ATA...

Gabriel allegedly has worked for the ATA in the past...

Gabriel no longer posts on the SM fron page after I disclosed his relationship to the Aruba Tourism Authority among other things   ...

Related links;

http://i3.tinypic.com/169m8hx.jpg Gabriel Leo

http://i3.tinypic.com/169lvls.jpg Gabriel Leo

http://tinyurl.com/z3kfh Alabama Cease and desist against Caruba,Tradewinds (Plantation Florida - Issued days before Natalee went to Aruba)
 
http://i6.tinypic.com/1zbw6so.jpg Plantation Profile General

http://i6.tinypic.com/244p1ds.jpg Gabriel Leo’s Tickle site comment re: the ATA

[justinsmama]

Did you tell the arses that you are a physician?

[dkpen]

Good evening all you beautiful & wonderful monkeys.  It's so good to be here.  I just spent the last 10 hours in the Emergency Room. What a nightmare day I've had.

OMG what happened?  Are you OK, your family OK?

I was the patient.  I am having excrutiating pains in my left lower abdomen.  I was poked, prodded and examined in every nook & cranny.  I had a CT, ulrasound, biopsies, you name it.

This jerk male Dr who I saw first, comes in my room and says to me - "How long have you had that mass in your abdomen?"  I said what mass??? He says that big tumor that is 5" by 6".  I was dumbfounded.  Then he proceeds to tell me that I have ovarian cancer.    

Then another male Dr came in and said I was being admitted for emergency surgery.  I'm still dumbfounded and wondering WTH.

Finally I get to see the OB/GYN who tells me I have a large cyst on my ovary and it needs to come out within the week.

The first male Dr at first wouldn't give me anything for pain, then he turns around and gives me IV Dilaudid (which is a very heavy duty pain killer).  When it's time to go home he gives me Tylenol #3, which to me is like putting a birth control pill in your armpit to prevent pregnancy.

I just cannot believe this man waltzed in the room with a diagnosis of ovarian cancer without anything to back it up.  Thank God I knew that one can't make a definitive diagnosis of CA the way he did.  What an idiot.  That hospital will be hearing from me about him.

Not only would I be contacting patients affair on this bogus doctor, I would be contacting my lawyer for a miss diagnosis. Did he put that in your chart notes/records? The nerve of the doctor to scare the bageebees out of you like that without the biopsies return or a specialist to determine the prognosis.

[Grande]

Good evening all you beautiful & wonderful monkeys.  It's so good to be here.  I just spent the last 10 hours in the Emergency Room. What a nightmare day I've had.

OMG what happened?  Are you OK, your family OK?

I was the patient.  I am having excrutiating pains in my left lower abdomen.  I was poked, prodded and examined in every nook & cranny.  I had a CT, ulrasound, biopsies, you name it.

This jerk male Dr who I saw first, comes in my room and says to me - "How long have you had that mass in your abdomen?"  I said what mass??? He says that big tumor that is 5" by 6".  I was dumbfounded.  Then he proceeds to tell me that I have ovarian cancer.    

Then another male Dr came in and said I was being admitted for emergency surgery.  I'm still dumbfounded and wondering WTH.

Finally I get to see the OB/GYN who tells me I have a large cyst on my ovary and it needs to come out within the week.

The first male Dr at first wouldn't give me anything for pain, then he turns around and gives me IV Dilaudid (which is a very heavy duty pain killer).  When it's time to go home he gives me Tylenol #3, which to me is like putting a birth control pill in your armpit to prevent pregnancy.

I just cannot believe this man waltzed in the room with a diagnosis of ovarian cancer without anything to back it up.  Thank God I knew that one can't make a definitive diagnosis of CA the way he did.  What an idiot.  That hospital will be hearing from me about him.

Sorry to hear about your bad experience!  Let me know if I can provide anything on the doctor in question  

[Grande]

Ok, while I am waiting for sunFreak to answer. I hope everything is good. And BTW, good job on sending all of the stuff to Mr. DeVries.

..
Shango, There has been some research by ppl as to who Shango & Simian were. I do not know, no one will stick their necks out or discuss.
Grande ..Maybe Klaasend or San or someone will email you or let you know who they are and why. I do not need to be in the know.

Thanks Kat... here is what I know about the Shango posts;

Originated from the Plantation / Ft. Lauderdale area...

Many references to Santeria / Charles Croes practices Santeria, not making any implications only posting that for reference purposes...

The ARUBA TOURISM Authority is located in FT. Lauderdale...

Gabriel Leo lives in Plantation Florida only a couple miles from the ATA...

Gabriel allegedly has worked for the ATA in the past...

Gabriel no longer posts on the SM fron page after I disclosed his relationship to the Aruba Tourism Authority among other things   ...

Related links;

http://i3.tinypic.com/169m8hx.jpg Gabriel Leo

http://i3.tinypic.com/169lvls.jpg Gabriel Leo

http://tinyurl.com/z3kfh Alabama Cease and desist against Caruba,Tradewinds (Plantation Florida - Issued days before Natalee went to Aruba)
 
http://i6.tinypic.com/1zbw6so.jpg Plantation Profile General

http://i6.tinypic.com/244p1ds.jpg Gabriel Leo’s Tickle site comment re: the ATA

There are alot more images related to the Shango posts here >

http://s66.photobucket.com/albums/h254/chicagoutfit/

If you have difficulty accessing the folder let me know.

[klaasend]

Good evening all you beautiful & wonderful monkeys.  It's so good to be here.  I just spent the last 10 hours in the Emergency Room. What a nightmare day I've had.

OMG what happened?  Are you OK, your family OK?

I was the patient.  I am having excrutiating pains in my left lower abdomen.  I was poked, prodded and examined in every nook & cranny.  I had a CT, ulrasound, biopsies, you name it.

This jerk male Dr who I saw first, comes in my room and says to me - "How long have you had that mass in your abdomen?"  I said what mass??? He says that big tumor that is 5" by 6".  I was dumbfounded.  Then he proceeds to tell me that I have ovarian cancer.    

Then another male Dr came in and said I was being admitted for emergency surgery.  I'm still dumbfounded and wondering WTH.

Finally I get to see the OB/GYN who tells me I have a large cyst on my ovary and it needs to come out within the week.

The first male Dr at first wouldn't give me anything for pain, then he turns around and gives me IV Dilaudid (which is a very heavy duty pain killer).  When it's time to go home he gives me Tylenol #3, which to me is like putting a birth control pill in your armpit to prevent pregnancy.

I just cannot believe this man waltzed in the room with a diagnosis of ovarian cancer without anything to back it up.  Thank God I knew that one can't make a definitive diagnosis of CA the way he did.  What an idiot.  That hospital will be hearing from me about him.

Wow, poor thing!  That's terrible all you've been through and I can't believe a doctor would say that.

Do you have an appointment to get the cyst removed yet?

[Frijole]

Grande you are a big TEASE then  

Hey I've been offline most of today but someone sent me this in my mailbox? Speaking of Florida.........something for your dart board Klaas    

I'd have to call Jula a fashion faux pas and not a fashion success    

YIKES THAT IS SCARY!!!      

THESE MUST BE FROM HALLOWEEN

[Grande]

Good evening all you beautiful & wonderful monkeys.  It's so good to be here.  I just spent the last 10 hours in the Emergency Room. What a nightmare day I've had.

OMG what happened?  Are you OK, your family OK?

I was the patient.  I am having excrutiating pains in my left lower abdomen.  I was poked, prodded and examined in every nook & cranny.  I had a CT, ulrasound, biopsies, you name it.

This jerk male Dr who I saw first, comes in my room and says to me - "How long have you had that mass in your abdomen?"  I said what mass??? He says that big tumor that is 5" by 6".  I was dumbfounded.  Then he proceeds to tell me that I have ovarian cancer.    

Then another male Dr came in and said I was being admitted for emergency surgery.  I'm still dumbfounded and wondering WTH.

Finally I get to see the OB/GYN who tells me I have a large cyst on my ovary and it needs to come out within the week.

The first male Dr at first wouldn't give me anything for pain, then he turns around and gives me IV Dilaudid (which is a very heavy duty pain killer).  When it's time to go home he gives me Tylenol #3, which to me is like putting a birth control pill in your armpit to prevent pregnancy.

I just cannot believe this man waltzed in the room with a diagnosis of ovarian cancer without anything to back it up.  Thank God I knew that one can't make a definitive diagnosis of CA the way he did.  What an idiot.  That hospital will be hearing from me about him.

Sorry to hear about your bad experience!  Let me know if I can provide anything on the doctor in question  

When it's time to go home he gives me Tylenol #3, which to me is like putting a birth control pill in your armpit to prevent pregnancy.

LMAO!

[AZSunny]

Grande you are a big TEASE then  

Hey I've been offline most of today but someone sent me this in my mailbox? Speaking of Florida.........something for your dart board Klaas    

I'd have to call Jula a fashion faux pas and not a fashion success    

YIKES THAT IS SCARY!!!      

THESE MUST BE FROM HALLOWEEN

Who is her sweaty friend??

[dkpen]

Let's call him a flaming +++++. Or we can suggest that the hospital needs to have better security in the looney ward. One of their patients got out and was pretending to be a physician.


Hope you will be ok SunFreak. Get plenty of rest and try not to lift anything or push around anything with substantial amount of weight to cause more pain.