Lively Case Discussion #540 11/1 - 11/5/2006

[AZLady]

Grande, you've put together an impressive collection.  I'm only about halfway through, but I'll look at it all.  I've wondered if Shango's postings were somehow political statements.  As I read them, I kept coming across fairly obvious references to the political situation in the Caribbean islands.  Liberation seems to be a popular theme recurring throughout the islands, in music and in the Rasta traditions and folklore.  Some of the names like "Babylonians" are used on Jamaica to refer to the police, especially in racial conflicts.  I keep thinking that some of the names we are talking about are also involved in political struggles in the Caribbean, too.  Just speculating.

[Carnut]

Course depending on how you look at things it might have been worse like the lady who recently went to the hospital for a side ache and gave birth without knowing she was pregnant.

That one always blows my mind how these women cannot know they are pregnant.     Denial maybe?

Heh, Heh, dunno, never been there myself.

[SunFreak2]

Thank you all for your prayers & concerns for me.  It feels good to have this large monkey family wrap their arms around me.

I'm exhausted physically & emotionally, so I'm going to go to bed early.  Talk to you all tomorrow.

[Kat_Gram]

I was going to go away, but I didn't. Came back. Hey SunFreak, aren't you glad the first guy was a goofy quack ?

[klaasend]

Thank you all for your prayers & concerns for me.  It feels good to have this large monkey family wrap their arms around me.

I'm exhausted physically & emotionally, so I'm going to go to bed early.  Talk to you all tomorrow.

Nite Sunfreak - Hope you get a good nights sleep.  {{{HUGS}}}

[nonesuche]

Grande-

Another monkey who tracks visitors to SM regularly reported to me last night we've  had some stellar visitors from the Hague and our capital in the last day, I'll hope they are reviewing your body of work as well  

Carnut - somehow the idea of you pregnant makes me laugh uncontrollably, it just seems so fitting      

I have some new music so going to feast with my ears and have some zen time, hope all have a good night  - be safe and take care !!!

[Grande]

hmmm  I wonder if the FBI has taken a closer look at those in Miami FL or Plantation FL with connections to Aruba. I would be interested to learn that one.

I could fill you in on alot given the opportunity.  Im sure you would be as disgusted as I remain.   Miami is one of the major facilitators of narco trafficking via Aruba for decades.  King Ocean Services, Inc. / Terminal Investments, Inc. / SystemOne Technologies, Inc. - Ticker Symbol: STEK formerly known as ATLANTIC ENTERTAINMENT principal business address of 444 Brickell Avenue now registered office of BANGBROTHERS, INC. should be CLOSELY EXAMINED - JMO!  

Three words...

NORTH VALLE CARTEL.

To my knowledge Bangbrothers is not at all affiliated with any of the aforementioned.  Some have suggested otherwise.  I have however speculated that PVDS visited the Bangros. HQ while in Miami last year.
That would only be applicable given Joran DID UPLOAD a video on to their servers likely located there at 444 Brickell.  In any event PVDS did go to Miami and most likely in order to either finance his son's defense team or in an attempt to conceal something that would implicate his son.  This all in my opinion ofcourse.

[klaasend]

So we know the VDS family, is friends with the Arambatzis as they were at Sasha's 16th BD party.  As was JaimeC, Koen, Sander and of course Freddy and Ernesto.  I believe that party was in March 2005.

[AZLady]

Grande,
I do wonder if the Shango postings were intended to implicate people who the writer would like to see investigated in detail--perhaps "business" rivals who would like to see their rivals go down?  They might or might not be involved in this case, but their "business" dealings might not be able to withstand the light of investigation or the heat of the FBI.  Interesting stuff.

[AZLady]

It does seem like Aruba exports as much or more porn than drugs or aloe, doesn't it?

[Frijole]

Sorry to be off topic but I just found this photo and have to post it for BLAH

BLAH - you there?  You'll know why I thought of you!!!    

[klaasend]

Frijole -     Too funny

[Frijole]

Frijole -     Too funny

Yeah... I think Blah still lurks right?  Hope so!

[Grande]

Grande, you've put together an impressive collection.  I'm only about halfway through, but I'll look at it all.  I've wondered if Shango's postings were somehow political statements.  As I read them, I kept coming across fairly obvious references to the political situation in the Caribbean islands.  Liberation seems to be a popular theme recurring throughout the islands, in music and in the Rasta traditions and folklore.  Some of the names like "Babylonians" are used on Jamaica to refer to the police, especially in racial conflicts.  I keep thinking that some of the names we are talking about are also involved in political struggles in the Caribbean, too.  Just speculating.

I agree and believe there was absolutely a political agenda.   Likely an agenda with the purpose of protecting and then restoring the major revenue producing industry; TOURISM.

[Elaine]

Grande you are a big TEASE then  

Hey I've been offline most of today but someone sent me this in my mailbox? Speaking of Florida.........something for your dart board Klaas    

I'd have to call Jula a fashion faux pas and not a fashion success    

YIKES THAT IS SCARY!!!      

THESE MUST BE FROM HALLOWEEN

ROFLMAO!

[Kat_Gram]

When BangBus was fined, I did all those searches in Florida. Also looked in Florida records for property owned in Florida by the Sloots or in Anita's maiden name. Came up empty for property in either name. But banking records, that is something else.
..
Another stupid little connection, Charlie Croes in Dennis Jacobs office.
( Dave's book ).
Who said there was a picture of Lorenzo in Jacobs ??? Office. Was it Art Wood ?
.
Aruba Trading Company... owned by Astrid. Shipments ?  Competiton ?
Why was Jacobs put in charge ? Because he was Jan Van Der Stratten's man ?

[AZLady]

Grande, you've put together an impressive collection.  I'm only about halfway through, but I'll look at it all.  I've wondered if Shango's postings were somehow political statements.  As I read them, I kept coming across fairly obvious references to the political situation in the Caribbean islands.  Liberation seems to be a popular theme recurring throughout the islands, in music and in the Rasta traditions and folklore.  Some of the names like "Babylonians" are used on Jamaica to refer to the police, especially in racial conflicts.  I keep thinking that some of the names we are talking about are also involved in political struggles in the Caribbean, too.  Just speculating.

I agree and believe there was absolutely a political agenda.   Likely an agenda with the purpose of protecting and then restoring the major revenue producing industry; TOURISM.

They've been trying to protect tourism all along.  I wonder, though, if the Shango posts in particular were directed at destroying a rival's porn business.

[Kat_Gram]

Ms. Sunfreak.... get to bed and get some rest ! ! !
HEAR ME ! ! !

[Elaine]

Still catching up here, but {{{Sunfreak}}} Rest well and take care!!

[Grande]

Grande-

Another monkey who tracks visitors to SM regularly reported to me last night we've  had some stellar visitors from the Hague and our capital in the last day, I'll hope they are reviewing your body of work as well  

Carnut - somehow the idea of you pregnant makes me laugh uncontrollably, it just seems so fitting      

I have some new music so going to feast with my ears and have some zen time, hope all have a good night  - be safe and take care !!!

Interesting and thank you, I appreciate you taking the time to review some of it.