Lively Case Discussion #540 11/1 - 11/5/2006

[mrs. red]

Boy Julia sure has put herself in bed with the wrong people..
I guess she doesnt realise how bad she will look when this is all over
Not that she doesnt look like a horrid little troll to begin with

I don't think that Julia cares one ounce... I still stand by opinion that on that island they have been so busy scamming tourists for so long that they don't even know how not to scam... they scam for the smallest little things... so they don't even realize how small and nasty they are...

[San]

Boy Julia sure has put herself in bed with the wrong people..
I guess she doesnt realise how bad she will look when this is all over
Not that she doesnt look like a horrid little troll to begin with

   

[klaasend]

FOB has been gathering all kinds of bogus information on Beth Twitty to send to De Vries.  They have also thought about sending the same information to other outlets.  I believe they are referring to the "other" outlets here.

Other outlets? FOBers exist in an alternate reality. The outlet that JR is refering to is the walls of his room at his moms house.

    I'd have to go find the post, but I believe they were talking about the Enquirer and such.

[mrs. red]

FOB has been gathering all kinds of bogus information on Beth Twitty to send to De Vries.  They have also thought about sending the same information to other outlets.  I believe they are referring to the "other" outlets here.

Other outlets? FOBers exist in an alternate reality. The outlet that JR is refering to is the walls of his room at his moms house.

    I'd have to go find the post, but I believe they were talking about the Enquirer and such.

now there's a bastion of absolute integrity in journalism....

[Grande]

Just looking at Sander's myspace site and JORAN is no longer listed as one of his friends.  Same with Koen's myspace site.  Could be that Joran deleted his JORAN.ANGRY site.

Joran still listed as friend on Koen's SMS page and vice versa.

[blah]

[quote="San"

JR[/b][/i]

Why Topicona?  I thought his job was done.  This is someone in the Netherlands investigating not the U.S.

I have that same question.  I just hope they send every piece of paperwork and internet posting from the last year.  If Taco charges by the hour to read all that crap, AHATA will be out of business.[/quote]

Well, a lot of that is for Taco to sue Beth and also all the people who have said anything mean about JORAN.ANGRY! but they have the goods on Beth like whether or not she ate a shrimp cocktail during the period of time she said she did not eat, etc.  Now I don't think one shrimp cocktail counts for much but to some it is absolute proof that Beth lies.  Also she was in a restaurant during that time, things like that.

This is a sad case of people believing their own propaganda and spin.  Brings back to my mind the classic struggle between good and evil that we have touched on at times.  They tell a lie and then use it to document each other later.  They become their own source and proof. And amazingly, from time to time, some of their claims are picked up as facts by some who know better.  Hard to keep all the stories straight after so long I guess.

Yes, de Vries was just the greatest ever, fearless and gets the facts, until the facts point straight at Joran then he is no good, on par with even the dreaded US Media.  Funny how the description of deVries changed once they got word he was going after their Saint Joran!

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Saint Joran....

isnt there some sort of a medicine named St Joran Wart or something like that...maybe a butt cream of some sort?

[Grande]

Just looking at Sander's myspace site and JORAN is no longer listed as one of his friends.  Same with Koen's myspace site.  Could be that Joran deleted his JORAN.ANGRY site.

Joran still listed as friend on Koen's SMS page and vice versa.

Koen has Kawish, Joran and Jamie all listed as friends on his tickle site which he visited within the last week.

[klaasend]

Just looking at Sander's myspace site and JORAN is no longer listed as one of his friends.  Same with Koen's myspace site.  Could be that Joran deleted his JORAN.ANGRY site.

Joran still listed as friend on Koen's SMS page and vice versa.

Koen has Kawish, Joran and Jamie all listed as friends on his tickle site which he visited within the last week.

So maybe Joran has deleted his JORAN.ANGRY myspace site?

[Grande]

Just looking at Sander's myspace site and JORAN is no longer listed as one of his friends.  Same with Koen's myspace site.  Could be that Joran deleted his JORAN.ANGRY site.

Joran still listed as friend on Koen's SMS page and vice versa.

Koen has Kawish, Joran and Jamie all listed as friends on his tickle site which he visited within the last week.

So maybe Joran has deleted his JORAN.ANGRY myspace site?

Iam going through MySpace as we speak.  I will check on the status of Joran and the 21 character witnesses.  Speaking of; did anyone ask KBM his feelings on being listed by Tacopina in the response affadavit?

[klaasend]

Grande - someone did ask him but I don't remember if he responded to the question.  It's in the o/t thread somewhere though..maybe towards the beginning.

[blah]

Grande - someone did ask him but I don't remember if he responded to the question.  It's in the o/t thread somewhere though..maybe towards the beginning.

he ducked the question, just like every other question ever asked of him

[Carnut]

KBM said if he were asked to testify as a character witness, he would testify and say what he knows and thinks of JVDS.

[mrs. red]

Grande - someone did ask him but I don't remember if he responded to the question.  It's in the o/t thread somewhere though..maybe towards the beginning.

he ducked the question, just like every other question ever asked of him

I haven't even read over there in a while... seems like people have come to really respect him though.... I just don't think a friend of jvds is going to tell us anything of value  - he, IMO, is all about his friend...

[klaasend]

Grande - someone did ask him but I don't remember if he responded to the question.  It's in the o/t thread somewhere though..maybe towards the beginning.

he ducked the question, just like every other question ever asked of him

I haven't even read over there in a while... seems like people have come to really respect him though.... I just don't think a friend of jvds is going to tell us anything of value  - he, IMO, is all about his friend...

I'm wondering if we have been speaking with Joran and kbm in that thread  

[blah]

Grande - someone did ask him but I don't remember if he responded to the question.  It's in the o/t thread somewhere though..maybe towards the beginning.

he ducked the question, just like every other question ever asked of him

I haven't even read over there in a while... seems like people have come to really respect him though.... I just don't think a friend of jvds is going to tell us anything of value  - he, IMO, is all about his friend...

I havent really read much over there, If I wanted to hear nothing but bullshit, i'd turn on CNN or something

[mrs. red]

Grande - someone did ask him but I don't remember if he responded to the question.  It's in the o/t thread somewhere though..maybe towards the beginning.

he ducked the question, just like every other question ever asked of him

I haven't even read over there in a while... seems like people have come to really respect him though.... I just don't think a friend of jvds is going to tell us anything of value  - he, IMO, is all about his friend...

I'm wondering if we have been speaking with Joran and kbm in that thread  

nothing would surprise me at this point!!

[mrs. red]

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[Frijole]

I'm wondering if we have been speaking with Joran and kbm in that thread  

Had the exact thought Klaas... if not directly then I have visions of Joran sitting by his side as he types the authorized answer.  Trying to figure out what he gets out of that other than a laugh.  Seems like kbm has lost interest in finding justice last few days.

[Carnut]

Grande - someone did ask him but I don't remember if he responded to the question.  It's in the o/t thread somewhere though..maybe towards the beginning.

he ducked the question, just like every other question ever asked of him

I haven't even read over there in a while... seems like people have come to really respect him though.... I just don't think a friend of jvds is going to tell us anything of value  - he, IMO, is all about his friend...

I'm wondering if we have been speaking with Joran and kbm in that thread  

Dunno, but whoever it is/was they were never able to come up with any alternative theory that couldn't easily be debunked with real info or real logic.

[Grande]

Just looking at Sander's myspace site and JORAN is no longer listed as one of his friends.  Same with Koen's myspace site.  Could be that Joran deleted his JORAN.ANGRY site.

Joran still listed as friend on Koen's SMS page and vice versa.

Koen has Kawish, Joran and Jamie all listed as friends on his tickle site which he visited within the last week.

So maybe Joran has deleted his JORAN.ANGRY myspace site?

Iam going through MySpace as we speak.  I will check on the status of Joran and the 21 character witnesses.  Speaking of; did anyone ask KBM his feelings on being listed by Tacopina in the response affadavit?

I don't see it.  This clone one is still up...
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=84094091