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« on: May 02, 2009, 08:54:18 AM »



Truth & Justice for Natalee!
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« Reply #1 on: May 17, 2009, 12:52:18 PM »

 
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« Reply #2 on: May 17, 2009, 12:52:50 PM »

HA!!! Am I first!!!  ???   
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« Reply #3 on: May 17, 2009, 12:52:53 PM »



Good Morning CBBarbarino........
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« Reply #4 on: May 17, 2009, 12:53:26 PM »

 

We're still here for Natalee.   
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« Reply #5 on: May 17, 2009, 12:53:33 PM »

Keep The Faith Cheated!!!      
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« Reply #6 on: May 17, 2009, 12:55:45 PM »

Keep The Faith Cheated!!!      

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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #7 on: May 17, 2009, 12:56:53 PM »

Keep The Faith Cheated!!!      

From reading the old Monkey heiroglyphics,passed on from CBB's great ancestors,i've come to understand that cheating to get to the next thread is a time honored tradition!
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« Reply #8 on: May 17, 2009, 12:59:40 PM »

Keep The Faith Cheated!!!      

From reading the old Monkey heiroglyphics,passed on from CBB's great ancestors,i've come to understand that cheating to get to the next thread is a time honored tradition!

Not to mention a certain mod gave you a lot of leeway by opening it long beforehand.  Just sayin'.....I guess you get your invisible medal, though.   
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« Reply #9 on: May 17, 2009, 01:04:24 PM »

texasmom,

I'm hoping Sandy Leiva was catching up in the last thread and can do her magic on that casino article for us. 
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« Reply #10 on: May 17, 2009, 01:06:04 PM »

Keep The Faith Cheated!!!      

From reading the old Monkey heiroglyphics,passed on from CBB's great ancestors,i've come to understand that cheating to get to the next thread is a time honored tradition!

Not to mention a certain mod gave you a lot of leeway by opening it long beforehand.  Just sayin'.....I guess you get your invisible medal, though.   

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« Reply #11 on: May 17, 2009, 01:07:34 PM »

texasmom,

I'm hoping Sandy Leiva was catching up in the last thread and can do her magic on that casino article for us. 

Me too!  Just in case she or Cageman happens to come here first...we would really appreciate some help understanding this article.

Thanks in advance!   


http://www.24ora.com/content/view/9095/5/#jc_allComments

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Casino na Holiday Inn a hera keda sin controlador di casino.     

Saturday, 16 May 2009 - 19:46 

Ultimo dianan aki e preparacion y discusion rond di a gamingboard a cuminsa lanta cabez atrobe. Tin manera un tension mey mey di e controladornan cu no sa kiko lo para cu nan. Parce cu e intencion ta pa elimina e control den porta di casinonan. Ta ser papia cu for di e proximo dianan kier cuminsa cu e maneho nobo cu un (1) controlador pa controla dos casino pareu. Esey ta algo contra ley segun e sindicato pasobra un casino no por habri si no tin controlador di casino na entrada. Diasabra mainta e controlador cu a bai traha na Holliday Inn a bin haya un sorpresa pasobra nan desk a desparece. Nan material di trabao no tabata tey. Sindicato a cay aden mesora. Click lesa mas pa sa kikoa pasa!

Despues di varios yamada parce cu e desk a bin bek na su lugar. Na Holliday Inn ta e unico casino cual a perde su prome desk. Por spera mas problema proximamente cu henter e asunto di controlador di casino.

Papiamentu translation:

casino at holiday inn owing to hera stay without controlador of casino.

saturday, 16 may 2009 - 19:46

ultimo dianan here the preparacion y discusion rond of owing to gamingboard owing to cuminsa arise cabez again. have as one tension mey mey of the controladornan cu not know what will stop cu they. seems cu the intencion is for elimina the control in door of casinonan. is being talk cu for of the proximo dianan wanted cuminsa cu the maneho new cu one (1) controlador for controla two casino equal. esey is algo contra ley according the sindicato because one casino not can open if not have controlador of casino at entrance. saturday morning the controlador cu owing to go work at holliday inn owing to come achieve one surprise because they desk owing to desparece. they material of trabao not was tey. sindicato owing to cay inside at once. click read more for know kikoa happen! after of several call seems cu the desk owing to come bek at his lugar. at holliday inn is the unique casino cual owing to lose his first desk. can wait for more problem proximamente cu all the asunto of controlador of casino. come across
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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« Reply #12 on: May 17, 2009, 01:14:17 PM »

I just wanted to tell all of you something!!   

Last week, I went to the Bahamas.  Our cab driver knew quote a bit about the Aruban cover up.  At the card tables, people where talking about different vacation spots.  Everyone agreed to boycott Aruba because of Natalee.  Anytime I got the chance, I mentioned how despicable the Aruban government was.  Thankfully, I didn't have to say too much because I don't know too much - but people just willingly agreed to support the Holloway's and Twitty's and boycott Aruba.

To my amazement, everyone seemed to know Natalee's name and were disgusted by Aruba.  Many only refered to her as the Holloway girl but still agreed Aruba made a big mistake protecting Joran and his father.  Just thought I would share this with "yous."   
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« Reply #13 on: May 17, 2009, 01:16:26 PM »

texasmom,

I'm hoping Sandy Leiva was catching up in the last thread and can do her magic on that casino article for us. 

Me too!  Just in case she or Cageman happens to come here first...we would really appreciate some help understanding this article.

Thanks in advance!   


http://www.24ora.com/content/view/9095/5/#jc_allComments

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Casino na Holiday Inn a hera keda sin controlador di casino.     

Saturday, 16 May 2009 - 19:46 

Ultimo dianan aki e preparacion y discusion rond di a gamingboard a cuminsa lanta cabez atrobe. Tin manera un tension mey mey di e controladornan cu no sa kiko lo para cu nan. Parce cu e intencion ta pa elimina e control den porta di casinonan. Ta ser papia cu for di e proximo dianan kier cuminsa cu e maneho nobo cu un (1) controlador pa controla dos casino pareu. Esey ta algo contra ley segun e sindicato pasobra un casino no por habri si no tin controlador di casino na entrada. Diasabra mainta e controlador cu a bai traha na Holliday Inn a bin haya un sorpresa pasobra nan desk a desparece. Nan material di trabao no tabata tey. Sindicato a cay aden mesora. Click lesa mas pa sa kikoa pasa!

Despues di varios yamada parce cu e desk a bin bek na su lugar. Na Holliday Inn ta e unico casino cual a perde su prome desk. Por spera mas problema proximamente cu henter e asunto di controlador di casino.

Papiamentu translation:

casino at holiday inn owing to hera stay without controlador of casino.

saturday, 16 may 2009 - 19:46

ultimo dianan here the preparacion y discusion rond of owing to gamingboard owing to cuminsa arise cabez again. have as one tension mey mey of the controladornan cu not know what will stop cu they. seems cu the intencion is for elimina the control in door of casinonan. is being talk cu for of the proximo dianan wanted cuminsa cu the maneho new cu one (1) controlador for controla two casino equal. esey is algo contra ley according the sindicato because one casino not can open if not have controlador of casino at entrance. saturday morning the controlador cu owing to go work at holliday inn owing to come achieve one surprise because they desk owing to desparece. they material of trabao not was tey. sindicato owing to cay inside at once. click read more for know kikoa happen! after of several call seems cu the desk owing to come bek at his lugar. at holliday inn is the unique casino cual owing to lose his first desk. can wait for more problem proximamente cu all the asunto of controlador of casino. come across


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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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I just wanted to tell all of you something!!   

Last week, I went to the Bahamas.  Our cab driver knew quote a bit about the Aruban cover up.  At the card tables, people where talking about different vacation spots.  Everyone agreed to boycott Aruba because of Natalee.  Anytime I got the chance, I mentioned how despicable the Aruban government was.  Thankfully, I didn't have to say too much because I don't know too much - but people just willingly agreed to support the Holloway's and Twitty's and boycott Aruba.

To my amazement, everyone seemed to know Natalee's name and were disgusted by Aruba.  Many only refered to her as the Holloway girl but still agreed Aruba made a big mistake protecting Joran and his father.  Just thought I would share this with "yous."   

Thanks for sharing Mytime, here and there!   

 
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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« Reply #15 on: May 17, 2009, 01:18:59 PM »

I just wanted to tell all of you something!!   

Last week, I went to the Bahamas.  Our cab driver knew quote a bit about the Aruban cover up.  At the card tables, people where talking about different vacation spots.  Everyone agreed to boycott Aruba because of Natalee.  Anytime I got the chance, I mentioned how despicable the Aruban government was.  Thankfully, I didn't have to say too much because I don't know too much - but people just willingly agreed to support the Holloway's and Twitty's and boycott Aruba.

To my amazement, everyone seemed to know Natalee's name and were disgusted by Aruba.  Many only refered to her as the Holloway girl but still agreed Aruba made a big mistake protecting Joran and his father.  Just thought I would share this with "yous."   

Thank you, mytime.   You's were missed, but glad you shared this.   
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« Reply #16 on: May 17, 2009, 01:29:44 PM »

I just wanted to tell all of you something!!   

Last week, I went to the Bahamas.  Our cab driver knew quote a bit about the Aruban cover up.  At the card tables, people where talking about different vacation spots.  Everyone agreed to boycott Aruba because of Natalee.  Anytime I got the chance, I mentioned how despicable the Aruban government was.  Thankfully, I didn't have to say too much because I don't know too much - but people just willingly agreed to support the Holloway's and Twitty's and boycott Aruba.

To my amazement, everyone seemed to know Natalee's name and were disgusted by Aruba.  Many only refered to her as the Holloway girl but still agreed Aruba made a big mistake protecting Joran and his father.  Just thought I would share this with "yous."   

                         ARUBA...AHATA...ATA...ARE YOU READING THIS????

    SO WILLING & ABLE TO DESTROY AN ISLAND FOR THE ELITES SICK,TWISTED PLEASURES....

 
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« Reply #17 on: May 17, 2009, 01:36:16 PM »

I also made sure the dealers were part of the conversations.  The economy has really effected the Bahamas.  Aruba is/was a big competetion for them because of the Casino's -I asked them to spread the word.  They all seemed happy to oblige - even one of the Pit Bosses listened in and made a few negative comments about Aruba.   

Just another FYI - Howard Stern is not well liked on the Island now.  Many assume he sold the pictures of the Bahamas immigration minister on her bed.   

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http://www.state.gov/p/inl/rls/nrcrpt/2009/vol2/116547.htm

2009 INCSR: Treaties and Agreements
Bureau of International Narcotics and Law Enforcement Affairs

2009 International Narcotics Control Strategy Report (INCSR)

February 27, 2009

Treaties

Mutual Legal Assistance Treaties (MLATs) allow generally for the exchange of evidence and information in criminal and ancillary matters. In money laundering cases, they can be extremely useful as a means of obtaining banking and other financial records from our treaty partners. MLATs, which are negotiated by the Department of State in cooperation with the Department of Justice to facilitate cooperation in criminal matters, including money laundering and asset forfeiture, are in force with the following countries: Antigua and Barbuda, Argentina, Australia, Austria, the Bahamas, Barbados, Belgium, Belize, Brazil, Canada, Cyprus, Czech Republic, Dominica, Egypt, Estonia, France, France with respect to its overseas departments (French Guiana, Guadeloupe and Martinique) and collectivities (French Polynesia and Saint Martin), Greece, Grenada, Hungary, India, Israel, Italy, Jamaica, Japan, Latvia, Liechtenstein, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Malaysia, Mexico, Morocco, the Netherlands, the Netherlands with respect to its Caribbean overseas territories (Aruba and the Netherlands Antilles), Nigeria, Panama, the Philippines, Poland, Romania, Russia, South Africa, South Korea, Spain, St. Kitts and Nevis, St. Lucia, St. Vincent and the Grenadines, Switzerland, Thailand, Trinidad and Tobago, Turkey, Ukraine, the United Kingdom, the United Kingdom with respect to its Caribbean overseas territories (Anguilla, the British Virgin Islands, the Cayman Islands, Montserrat, and the Turks and Caicos Islands), and Uruguay. The United States also has agreements in place for cooperation in criminal matters with Hong Kong (SAR) and the Peoples Republic of China (PRC). Mutual legal assistance agreements have been signed by the United States but not yet brought into force with the European Union and the following countries: Bermuda, Bulgaria, Colombia, Finland, Germany, Ireland, Sweden, and Venezuela. The United States is actively engaged in negotiating additional MLATs with countries around the world. The United States has also signed and ratified the Inter-American Convention on Mutual Legal Assistance of the Organization of American States and the United Nations Convention against Corruption.

Agreements

In addition to MLATs, the United States has entered into executive agreements on forfeiture cooperation, including: (1) an agreement with the United Kingdom providing for forfeiture assistance and asset sharing in narcotics cases; (2) a forfeiture cooperation and asset sharing agreement with the Kingdom of the Netherlands; and (3) a drug forfeiture agreement with Singapore. The United States has asset sharing agreements with Canada, the Cayman Islands (which was extended to Anguilla, British Virgin Islands, Montserrat, and the Turks and Caicos Islands), Colombia, Ecuador, Jamaica, and Mexico.

Treasurys Financial Crimes Enforcement Network (FinCEN) has a Memorandum of Understanding (MOU) or an exchange of letters in place with other financial intelligence units (FIUs) to facilitate the exchange of information between FinCEN and the respective countrys FIU. FinCEN has an MOU or an exchange of letters with the FIUs in Albania, Argentina, Aruba, Australia, Belgium, Bulgaria, Canada, Cayman Islands, Chile, Croatia, Cyprus, France, Guatemala, Indonesia, Italy, Japan, Macedonia, Malaysia, Mexico, Montenegro, the Netherlands, Netherlands Antilles, Panama, Paraguay, Philippines, Poland, Romania, Russia, Singapore, Slovenia, South Africa, South Korea, Spain, the Money Laundering Prevention Commission of Taiwan and the United Kingdom.

Asset Sharing

Pursuant to the provisions of U.S. law, including 18 U.S.C. 981(i), 21 U.S.C. 881(e)(1)(E), and 31 U.S.C. 9703(h)(2), the Departments of Justice, State, and Treasury have aggressively sought to encourage foreign governments to cooperate in joint investigations of narcotics trafficking and money laundering, offering the possibility of sharing in forfeited assets. A parallel goal has been to encourage spending of these assets to improve narcotics related law enforcement. The long-term goal has been to encourage governments to improve asset forfeiture laws and procedures so they will be able to conduct investigations and prosecutions of narcotics trafficking and money laundering, which include asset forfeiture. The United States and its partners in the G-8 are currently pursuing a program to strengthen asset forfeiture regimes. To date, Canada, Cayman Islands, Hong Kong, Jersey, Liechtenstein, Luxembourg, Switzerland, and the United Kingdom have shared forfeited assets with the United States.

From 1989 through December 2008, the international asset sharing program, administered by the Department of Justice, shared $229,580,918 with foreign governments that cooperated and assisted in the investigations. In 2008, the Department of Justice transferred $499,913.50 in forfeited proceeds to Canada. Prior recipients of shared assets include: Anguilla, Antigua and Barbuda, Argentina, the Bahamas, Barbados, British Virgin Islands, Canada, Cayman Islands, Colombia, Costa Rica, Dominican Republic, Ecuador, Egypt, Greece, Guatemala, Guernsey, Honduras, Hong Kong (SAR), Hungary, Indonesia, Isle of Man, Israel, Jordan, Liechtenstein, Luxembourg, Netherlands Antilles, Paraguay, Peru, Romania, South Africa, Switzerland, Thailand, Turkey, the United Kingdom, and Venezuela.

From Fiscal Year (FY) 1994 through FY 2008, the international asset-sharing program administered by the Department of Treasury shared $28,025,669 with foreign governments that cooperated and assisted in successful forfeiture investigations. In FY 2008, the Department of Treasury transferred $218,657 in forfeited proceeds to Canada ($145,659), Guernsey ($18,690), and Palau ($54,308). Prior recipients of shared assets include: Aruba, Australia, the Bahamas, Cayman Islands, Canada, China, Dominican Republic, Egypt, Guernsey, Honduras, Isle of Man, Jersey, Mexico, Netherlands, Nicaragua, Panama, Portugal, Qatar, St. Vincent & the Grenadines, Switzerland, and the United Kingdom.
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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« Reply #19 on: May 17, 2009, 01:42:09 PM »

I also made sure the dealers were part of the conversations.  The economy has really effected the Bahamas.  Aruba is/was a big competetion for them because of the Casino's -I asked them to spread the word.  They all seemed happy to oblige - even one of the Pit Bosses listened in and made a few negative comments about Aruba.   

Just another FYI - Howard Stern is not well liked on the Island now.  Many assume he sold the pictures of the Bahamas immigration minister on her bed.   



Thanks again Mytime, great info!   
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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