Natalee Case Discussion #819 5/17/09 - 6/10/09

[San]

I was wonderin how much longer you Mods were gonna leave KTF all alone San!!My mind was at work....

Hi KTF.  I see you have mastered the art of centering 

[klaasend]

Looks like someone died.  Can't tell if they fished him out of the water or what:

http://www.24ora.com/content/blogcategory/6/8/

[Mere]

Hi Monkeys....I see in my area that there is a re-run on E! of The Final Hours of Natalee Holloway...starting now at 8 pm EST

[wreck]

Looks like someone died.  Can't tell if they fished him out of the water or what:

http://www.24ora.com/content/blogcategory/6/8/

It still disturbs me greatly that they show uncensored corpses on the front page of their papers! 

[Keepthefaith]

Looks like someone died.  Can't tell if they fished him out of the water or what:

http://www.24ora.com/content/blogcategory/6/8/

It still disturbs me greatly that they show uncensored corpses on the front page of their papers! 

I do agree Wreck.What type of society puts someones deceased family member in the paper for all to see?It is very SICK & TWISTED....

[San]

Hi Monkeys....I see in my area that there is a re-run on E! of The Final Hours of Natalee Holloway...starting now at 8 pm EST

Thanks Mere.

[Keepthefaith]

I was wonderin how much longer you Mods were gonna leave KTF all alone San!!My mind was at work....

Hi KTF.  I see you have mastered the art of centering 

I'm sure trying..

[texasmom]

Looks like someone died.  Can't tell if they fished him out of the water or what:

http://www.24ora.com/content/blogcategory/6/8/

http://www.amigoe.com/artman/publish/artikel_57559.php

Google Translation:

Aruba

Progressively in marina

3 Jun, 2009, 16:47 (GMT -04:00)

ORANGE CITY - Two American tourists were early this morning a sinister discovery. They were around a quarter to seven the morning off to go fishing when the water in front of Crystal Casino saw a body floating. The body was with the face down and gave no sign of life.

The shocked holidaymakers called the police that the lifeless body later on the quay knew it. It turned out to Egbert Ludwig Paula (47), a well-known to the police hobo. Around half past seven, the duty doctor formally adopt the death. About the cause of death, the police have no communications. "The body was taken for autopsy," the spokesman reported.

Speculations that the choller not died natural death. Injuries to the face would arouse suspicion that there is malice in the game. An unfortunate fall is also not excluded. "We must await the outcome of the inquest, said police.

[Keepthefaith]

Looks like someone died.  Can't tell if they fished him out of the water or what:

http://www.24ora.com/content/blogcategory/6/8/

http://www.amigoe.com/artman/publish/artikel_57559.php

Google Translation:

Aruba

Progressively in marina

3 Jun, 2009, 16:47 (GMT -04:00)

ORANGE CITY - Two American tourists were early this morning a sinister discovery. They were around a quarter to seven the morning off to go fishing when the water in front of Crystal Casino saw a body floating. The body was with the face down and gave no sign of life.

The shocked holidaymakers called the police that the lifeless body later on the quay knew it. It turned out to Egbert Ludwig Paula (47), a well-known to the police hobo. Around half past seven, the duty doctor formally adopt the death. About the cause of death, the police have no communications. "The body was taken for autopsy," the spokesman reported.

Speculations that the choller not died natural death. Injuries to the face would arouse suspicion that there is malice in the game. An unfortunate fall is also not excluded. "We must await the outcome of the inquest, said police.

An unfortunate fall?? Where.Into the water...

[Keepthefaith]

Just want to clarify.I wasn't making light of the poor mans death.I think the ALE are a bunch of dumbazzezzz if they think he died by a fall and then found his way to the water or died from falling into the water!!

[AZSunny]

AZSunny

I know you are going through a difficult period as the anniversary of the passing of your precious John is approaching.

My heart breaks for you.

I do not know how I would cope.  I may appear to strong in my words but ... in reality my hubby is my rock ... my rock who gives me confidence.  My stength to endure without him  would have to be God-given because I know I could never do it on my own.

Hugs

Janet

Thanks Janet for understanding. 

[texasmom]

http://www.amigoe.com/artman/publish/artikel_57489.php

Google translation:

Hard to hard in the States letter Bijleveld

2 Jun, 2009, 16:33 (GMT -04:00)

amigoe translation:

The gloves were off in the States regarding Bijleveld’s letter
2 Jun, 2009, 11:13 (GMT -04:00)

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Premier Nelson Oduber together with the Ministers Wever, Croes, and Swaen during the emergency debate in the States yesterday.
ORANJESTAD –– The tensions were mounting high during the emergency debate which was held yesterday regarding the forthcoming investigation of State secretary of Kingdom Relations Ank Bijleveld-Schouten (CDA). The barrages of abuse and harassments once again demonstrated that with the upcoming elections there is no love lost between the government and the opposition.

By our reporter Ariën Rasmijn

“The Dutch! They’re rats. They bite you and then run away.” Minister of Public Health, Aliens Affairs and Environment, Candelario ‘Booshi’ Wever (MEP) is not sparing with his words on State secretary Bijleveld’s plan to investigate the government functioning on Aruba. “You will see, that within short she will be in touch to say that she hadn’t meant it that way”, says the minister. His own letter to the Lower Chamber also comes up for discussion, but the minister cannot resist using the words ‘ladron’ (thief) and ‘horta’ (stealing) when he mentions the actions of the AVP-government. Apparently, it was previously decided upon that these words would not be used, and States Chairwoman Mervin Wyatt-Ras (MEP) therefore reprimands the minister and introduces a short break. During this break, fraction leader Ady Thijsen (MEP) came up with a list of synonyms for the word ‘ladron’, causing great hilarity. Premier Nelson Oduber (MEP) suggested a few additions, amongst which ‘dede largo’ (sticky fingers).

Cheerleaders
The government fraction of MEP had requested the emergency debate to introduce two motions. One, to let the government investigate if the observations of Bijleveld in her letter to the Lower Chamber are based on the truth, and one vote of no-confidence against the State secretary, as she did not exercise neutrality in her treatment of the Aruban case.
At the beginning of the day, the AVP-fractions considered the request for a debate ‘just as absurd as the motions’. Fraction member Benny Sevinger announced that no matter what, an investigation will be carried out, either by the Netherlands, or ‘after September 25th’, by his own party. Andy Lee blames the forthcoming investigation on the failure of the parliament. The majority of the fractions are ‘just like a group of cheerleaders’ uncritical with regard to the cabinet and allowing everything.

‘Pedophile’
For his speeches, Minister-president Oduber retrieved old reports of Koerten and De Ruiter, for the familiar lashing towards AVP, and says that the Dutch are the inventors of ‘corruption, and piracy’. Furthermore, the Premier openly wonders if IRT-committee leader Jan van Traa actually died of a car accident.
Later on in the evening, minister Wever loses his composure when RED-fraction leader points out to him, that he ‘constantly has to approach an advisor in Santa Cruz’ if he wants to keep abreast of his own directorates. “At least I don’t do it with children”, Wever snarled a reproach, and called Lampe a ‘traitor’, ‘pedophile’, and ‘pig’ during the remainder of his speech. States Chairwoman Ras barely reprimands Wever. For the umpteenth time she introduces a short break, walks over to Wever’s table, and  coquettishly slaps him on the arm, saying ‘You shouldn’t needle him so!”
The motion introduced by Lampe to welcome the investigation, is unanimously rejected by the MEP-fraction.

Donkeys and horses
The entire AVP-fraction left the hall, already during the first round of the debate. Andy Lee was the only one present during most of the second round. Premier Oduber spoke highly of Lee to minister Swaen. “I admire that boy.” Ady Thijsen agrees with him by uttering the old Aruban saying: “the donkeys work hard so the horses can eat’. It is not until the evening, when the voting begins that the green fraction returns with in her track a dozen supporters who demonstratively seat themselves in the gallery.
MEP-fraction member Dino Croes, shouts “Cheerleaders!” Just before the voting, Benny Sevinger gives a last strike below the belt, this time to MEP-fraction leader Ady Thijsen. “Nice to see that the one now calling us a traitor sat in our car just a few months ago and talked about the collapsing of the government.” Thijsen is clearly irritated: “Idiot! You see me sitting here, don’t you?” Afterwards the voting final took place. The majority in the parliament accepts the motions of the government fractions. All fall silent, rise for the national anthem, start to leave for home, but not without first calling out to each other.

http://www.amigoe.com/artman/publish/artikel_57513.php

 

Thanks caesu!   

[texasmom]

Truth & Justice for Natalee!

 

[Keepthefaith]

Truth & Justice for Natalee!

 

[Anna]

Truth & Justice for Natalee!

 

[Nut44x4]

Looks like someone died.  Can't tell if they fished him out of the water or what:

http://www.24ora.com/content/blogcategory/6/8/

It still disturbs me greatly that they show uncensored corpses on the front page of their papers! 

I do agree Wreck.What type of society puts someones deceased family member in the paper for all to see?It is very SICK & TWISTED....

Yep! Not to mention 9 more photos at all angles on the story page  How many times over the years have we seen this....
http://www.24ora.com/content/view/9420/8/#jc_allComments  I have lost count 

[jen3560]

There is certainly something depraved about a society that publicizes such imagery.

Should tell a person a lot about the mindset on that rock.

If they don't even respect their deceased citizens - then how could they possibly respect anyone in life?

Or life and death itself, for that matter.

[wreck]

There is certainly something depraved about a society that publicizes such imagery.

Should tell a person a lot about the mindset on that rock.

If they don't even respect their deceased citizens - then how could they possibly respect anyone in life?

Or life and death itself, for that matter.

I agree!!

[Anna]

Aruba is a place where children can't even read the newspapers.  Half of them are nothing more than ads for massage parlors and escort services and the other half print gory photos of corpses.

No wonder they produce such callous sociopaths with this mindset.

[klaasend]

http://www.telegraaf.nl/prive/4083045/__Natalee__the_musical_op_de_Parade__.html