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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #819 5/17/09 -
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Quote from: jen3560 on June 10, 2009, 10:46:19 AM
Quote from: Tamikosmom on June 10, 2009, 10:21:14 AM
Thank you all for your input regarding my concerns regarding Dave Holloway's relationship with those who are one with the Aruban coverup that has prevented justice from prevailing from the getgo.
Food for Thought
Considering his extensive background knowledge regarding the dynamics encompassing the corrupt Aruban investigation into the disappearance of his daughter ...
why did Dave Holloway not determine for himself that this huge undertaking that was intended to bring closure was all for naught if there was no assurance in place that an FBI presence would be permitted on board to observe a chain of custody of any discovery that might be case related?
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Janet - I would have to say it was because he had faith in Tim Miller to ensure the right thing was done.
He couldn't possibly have known that Tim would be booted from the boat by Silvetti at the crucial time.
I would hope that Dave had discussed with Silvetti and/or Schaefer prior to Persistence leaving the US his thoughts on an FBI present aboard the ship.
If he did, I have to presume he was fed some song and dance by Silvetti/Schaefer about Aruba not letting them dock if such a person was aboard..............and so Dave had to rely on his faith in Tim Miller.
Thanks Jen! When I read Janet's question earlier today, my thoughts about a response were very close to yours.
IIRC, when the search was discussed prior, Tim Miller had even mentioned the possibility of their docking in Venequela instead of Aruba. I think that was in the event that Aruba tried to prevent them from searching at all. With Tim Miller's prior experience's in Aruba, I can't help but believe that the same song and dance routine was fed to him too; for him to have gone along with things as they were up to the point of his leaving the boat. I hope that makes sense.
I truly believe that Dave and Beth's trust in Tim Miller to make sure any evidence was handled properly in the pursuit of Justice for Natalee, was one of the main things that made Tim Miller a liability on that boat.
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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ORANGE CITY / AMSTERDAM - The Public Prosecutor (OM) is not satisfied with the ruling of the court of Amsterdam in the case against Franklin Falcone and appeal. That made it for today. This is the purpose of the wishes of the families of Falcone's victims, Gabrielle Cevat.
The relatives of Cevat took the penalty is too low and gave the contract to their lawyer in an open letter to ask for still appeal. The court sentenced Falcone (50) earlier this month to twelve years in prison and TBS forcing nursing. The requirement of the OM was eighteen.
Falcone was sentenced for the shooting death of principal agente Gabrielle Cevat in Amstelveen in August last year. It considers it for him guilty of attempted murder of the parents of his ex-girlfriend, threats and prohibited possession of weapons.
The OM is the court-imposed penalty "no justice to the nature and seriousness of the proven facts stated." In addition, Justice feels that Falcone really be aware that he was at the time that he Cevat shot with a police officer to do. The court considered this is unproven.
Gabrielle Cevat (28) was dressed in civilian clothes when she was on the way to the police to her night shift to begin. When she Falcone curling game on the road she was driving in a car chase. Franklin Falcone stepped out of his car and shot down Cevat immediately. The agent died shortly afterwards in hospital.
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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Quote from: texasmom on June 10, 2009, 06:50:58 PM
The Persistence....So John Silvetti!Care to sit down with the FBI and tell em exactly what transpired out in that ocean on Jan 7th??
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How bout askin for more donations and have them sent to a P.O. Box in Kemah Texas................
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Quote from: Keepthefaith on June 10, 2009, 06:56:16 PM
How bout askin for more donations and have them sent to a P.O. Box in Kemah Texas................
Wonder if Silvetti,Schaefer,and or Trahan care to show the FBI the accounting for the donated money....
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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Quote from: texasmom on June 10, 2009, 06:59:29 PM
All those ALE & Mos on The Persistence because of Hermit crabs.....
Come on people..They didn't return on the 7th because Hermit crabs were in that cage!
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HT Kermit
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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Quote from: texasmom on June 10, 2009, 07:02:02 PM
This is my opinion.Tim Miller's
SILENCE
speaks volumes!I believe,if Tim Miller thought nothing was in that cage,he would have said it long ago to end speculation..JMOO
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Quote from: texasmom on June 10, 2009, 07:02:02 PM
This is my opinion.Tim Miller's
SILENCE
speaks volumes!I believe,if Tim Miller thought nothing was in that cage,he would have said it long ago to end speculation..JMOO
I agree.
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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Truth & Justice for Natalee!
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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Quote from: San on June 10, 2009, 07:08:31 PM
Quote from: Keepthefaith on June 10, 2009, 07:07:29 PM
Quote from: texasmom on June 10, 2009, 07:02:02 PM
This is my opinion.Tim Miller's
SILENCE
speaks volumes!I believe,if Tim Miller thought nothing was in that cage,he would have said it long ago to end speculation..JMOO
I agree.
Me too!
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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Truth & Justice for Natalee!
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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