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« Reply #220 on: May 18, 2009, 12:31:44 AM »

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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #740 3/5 -
« Reply #404 on: Today at 02:03:59 PM »

We met with Patrick while in Aruba. He said that he believed Paulus was Daury, but wouldn't come straight out and say it as if he were nervous about being recorded. I'm uncertain why he's being cryptic about it.
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2673.400


« Riehl World View Interview Coming | Main | Posted Without Comment »
Friday, June 17, 2005
Interview With Van der Sloot Friend

DAN RIEHL: What did he do for a living, I've heard he's a judge.

Her: Yes, he judges, sometimes. But not always. I'm not sure what he did before. He traveled a lot, on business, I think.


The slide archive
SOVON and Saxifraga

www.saxifraga.nl

Stichting Saxifraga
Saxifraga is voortgekomen uit een initia-
tief van Jan van der Straaten, die tijdens

TRANSLATION
Foundation Saxifraga
Saxifraga is the result of an initiative
initiative of Jan van der Straaten, who during
holidays are a lot of slides of plants and
beasts made
zijn vakanties veel dia’s van planten en
beesten maakte
http://tinyurl.com/3jjlsb


Jan van der Straaten, Tilburg University, The Netherlands
.conbio.org/activities/meetings/2002/website/symposia2.html#Symposium8


Oduber, Straaten, Smid, and Paulus all went to Tilburg University.


Paulus set up contracts

Paulus traveled a lot on business, a close friend said in the interview with Dan Riehl.

Paulus was a "high-stakes gambler".

Paulus came home from Holland on a long flight, had children at home and went out to the Excelsior casino to gamble with his son the night Natalee went missing.

He went on a Sunday, the day of rest, knowing his son had school the next day!

Joran called Daury to get rid of the body.

Joran is suppose to be in school in Holland, but he is doing drugs and setting up with Patrick to sell drugs.

Joran moves to Thailand and tries to set up a sex trafficking business.


Just like PAPA.







Kermit are you sure the other 2 brothers were home?

Icehawk, I'm not sure anyone really knows the answer to this.

I have always thought they were not.

I think Paulus was out running wild and being a scumbag with Joran that night.



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« Reply #221 on: May 18, 2009, 12:40:41 AM »

                                JUSTICE FOR NATALEE HOLLOWAY

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« Reply #222 on: May 18, 2009, 12:42:47 AM »

Good Night 2NJ and KTF! 
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« Reply #223 on: May 18, 2009, 12:43:29 AM »

Goodnight KTF, hotping, pinkbanana, wreck, texasmom, 2NJSons_Mom, cajun miracle and 13 Guests

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« Reply #224 on: May 18, 2009, 12:49:45 AM »

                                JUSTICE FOR NATALEE HOLLOWAY

                                     GOODNIGHT & GOD BLESS

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Good Night KTF!   
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #225 on: May 18, 2009, 12:51:05 AM »

Goodnight KTF, hotping, pinkbanana, wreck, texasmom, 2NJSons_Mom, cajun miracle and 13 Guests

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Good night Helen Back!   
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #226 on: May 18, 2009, 12:53:54 AM »

Good Night Helen Back! 
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« Reply #227 on: May 18, 2009, 12:56:57 AM »

Good Night...klaasend, 2NJSons_Mom, Icehawk, texasmom, cajun miracle, pinkbanana, Magnolia, Helen Back and 10 Guests 
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« Reply #228 on: May 18, 2009, 12:58:47 AM »



Truth & Justice for Natalee!
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #229 on: May 18, 2009, 12:59:58 AM »

Good Night...klaasend, 2NJSons_Mom, Icehawk, texasmom, cajun miracle, pinkbanana, Magnolia, Helen Back and 10 Guests 

Good Night Hotping!

Good Night Everyone! 

 
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #230 on: May 18, 2009, 01:00:35 AM »

Good Night Ya'll!
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« Reply #231 on: May 18, 2009, 01:32:46 AM »

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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #740 3/5 -
« Reply #404 on: Today at 02:03:59 PM »

We met with Patrick while in Aruba. He said that he believed Paulus was Daury, but wouldn't come straight out and say it as if he were nervous about being recorded. I'm uncertain why he's being cryptic about it.
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2673.400


« Riehl World View Interview Coming | Main | Posted Without Comment »
Friday, June 17, 2005
Interview With Van der Sloot Friend

DAN RIEHL: What did he do for a living, I've heard he's a judge.

Her: Yes, he judges, sometimes. But not always. I'm not sure what he did before. He traveled a lot, on business, I think.


The slide archive
SOVON and Saxifraga

www.saxifraga.nl

Stichting Saxifraga
Saxifraga is voortgekomen uit een initia-
tief van Jan van der Straaten, die tijdens

TRANSLATION
Foundation Saxifraga
Saxifraga is the result of an initiative
initiative of Jan van der Straaten, who during
holidays are a lot of slides of plants and
beasts made
zijn vakanties veel dia’s van planten en
beesten maakte
http://tinyurl.com/3jjlsb


Jan van der Straaten, Tilburg University, The Netherlands
.conbio.org/activities/meetings/2002/website/symposia2.html#Symposium8


Oduber, Straaten, Smid, and Paulus all went to Tilburg University.


Paulus set up contracts

Paulus traveled a lot on business, a close friend said in the interview with Dan Riehl.

Paulus was a "high-stakes gambler".

Paulus came home from Holland on a long flight, had children at home and went out to the Excelsior casino to gamble with his son the night Natalee went missing.

He went on a Sunday, the day of rest, knowing his son had school the next day!

Joran called Daury to get rid of the body.

Joran is suppose to be in school in Holland, but he is doing drugs and setting up with Patrick to sell drugs.

Joran moves to Thailand and tries to set up a sex trafficking business.


Just like PAPA.


Kermit are you sure the other 2 brothers were home?

Icehawk, I finally found this...I knew I had it saved somewhere!

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=1173.msg171126#msg171126

 Natalee Holloway / LCD Archive / Lively Case Discussion #630 5/28 - 5/29/2007  on: May 30, 2007, 12:00:20 AM 
Quote from: "justinsmama"
Quote from: "WidgetTheMidget"
Quote from: "justinsmama"
Widget~ Hey! Can you clarify exactly what info you gleaned about Anita's flight back to Aruba in June 2005?


Hey Justins .......

3 Vander Sloots Landed In Aruba On June 1st .................

 
 You got actual confirmation that it was 3 vds?


Yes And I Also Heard It Was Passed On To The FBI ..............




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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #232 on: May 18, 2009, 01:51:38 AM »

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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #740 3/5 -
« Reply #404 on: Today at 02:03:59 PM »

We met with Patrick while in Aruba. He said that he believed Paulus was Daury, but wouldn't come straight out and say it as if he were nervous about being recorded. I'm uncertain why he's being cryptic about it.
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2673.400


« Riehl World View Interview Coming | Main | Posted Without Comment »
Friday, June 17, 2005
Interview With Van der Sloot Friend

DAN RIEHL: What did he do for a living, I've heard he's a judge.

Her: Yes, he judges, sometimes. But not always. I'm not sure what he did before. He traveled a lot, on business, I think.


The slide archive
SOVON and Saxifraga

www.saxifraga.nl

Stichting Saxifraga
Saxifraga is voortgekomen uit een initia-
tief van Jan van der Straaten, die tijdens

TRANSLATION
Foundation Saxifraga
Saxifraga is the result of an initiative
initiative of Jan van der Straaten, who during
holidays are a lot of slides of plants and
beasts made
zijn vakanties veel dia’s van planten en
beesten maakte
http://tinyurl.com/3jjlsb


Jan van der Straaten, Tilburg University, The Netherlands
.conbio.org/activities/meetings/2002/website/symposia2.html#Symposium8


Oduber, Straaten, Smid, and Paulus all went to Tilburg University.


Paulus set up contracts

Paulus traveled a lot on business, a close friend said in the interview with Dan Riehl.

Paulus was a "high-stakes gambler".

Paulus came home from Holland on a long flight, had children at home and went out to the Excelsior casino to gamble with his son the night Natalee went missing.

He went on a Sunday, the day of rest, knowing his son had school the next day!

Joran called Daury to get rid of the body.

Joran is suppose to be in school in Holland, but he is doing drugs and setting up with Patrick to sell drugs.

Joran moves to Thailand and tries to set up a sex trafficking business.


Just like PAPA.


Kermit are you sure the other 2 brothers were home?

Icehawk, I finally found this...I knew I had it saved somewhere!

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=1173.msg171126#msg171126

 Natalee Holloway / LCD Archive / Lively Case Discussion #630 5/28 - 5/29/2007  on: May 30, 2007, 12:00:20 AM 
Quote from: "justinsmama"
Quote from: "WidgetTheMidget"
Quote from: "justinsmama"
Widget~ Hey! Can you clarify exactly what info you gleaned about Anita's flight back to Aruba in June 2005?


Hey Justins .......

3 Vander Sloots Landed In Aruba On June 1st .................

 
 You got actual confirmation that it was 3 vds?


Yes And I Also Heard It Was Passed On To The FBI ..............





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« Reply #233 on: May 18, 2009, 01:58:08 AM »

@ Kermit




Can you confirm this?
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« Reply #234 on: May 18, 2009, 02:22:14 AM »

I think I offended Janet last night ..... but I certainly did not intend to. Ohcanada posted a pic and an open-ended attack on Francine Byrd a few nights ago. I responded to Ohcanada in a harsh matter and I was TRYING to keep Francine's name out of it.  Last night, Janet (innocently) revealed Francine's name. I know her intentions were sincere and righteous, but she apparently did not see my previous posts. Janet was annoyed at me. I sincerely apologize -- I was just trying to spare Francine from being reintroduced to those ridiculous accusations.
I was also here last night......it was a MISUNDERSTANDING...oh...give me a break (as in I'm not buying the BS)...canada



   
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« Reply #1935 on: May 17, 2009, 02:04:46 AM »
   
Quote from: billb on May 17, 2009, 01:56:24 AM
Team,
Don't let oh....give me a break...canada...come between us...That is the dark sides plan....
Keep the focus where it belongs...Justice for Natalee!
Keep it real folks....
Wreck posted...
You are right -- I'm sorry. It is just that oh____ posted a pic of her a few nights ago and it really infuriated me. I posted a response that it was really unfair to dredge Francine's name up again after 4 years. She is only guilty of being one of Natalee's closest friends. I was hoping to keep her name out of this latest dribble from OC.
A MISUNDERSTANDING.....
Janet will be back....
We are all here after 4 years for ONE THING....
JUSTICE FOR NATALEE.........
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« Reply #235 on: May 18, 2009, 02:33:26 AM »

I think I offended Janet last night ..... but I certainly did not intend to. Ohcanada posted a pic and an open-ended attack on Francine Byrd a few nights ago. I responded to Ohcanada in a harsh matter and I was TRYING to keep Francine's name out of it.  Last night, Janet (innocently) revealed Francine's name. I know her intentions were sincere and righteous, but she apparently did not see my previous posts. Janet was annoyed at me. I sincerely apologize -- I was just trying to spare Francine from being reintroduced to those ridiculous accusations.

It wasn't Janet who revealed Frances Ellen Byrd's name.   It was ME.  Janet wanted the name so that she could
look for the transcript of the show.


It was just all a misunderstanding.  There was no harm meant by any of you.  But I do have my doubts about the person who posted the picture.

You have not been alone. 
Said it last night...will say it again.
it's oh....give me a break...canada  (as in  I don't buy the BS)
Dark side tactic...ignore them and they go away....
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« Reply #236 on: May 18, 2009, 02:45:18 AM »

I think I offended Janet last night ..... but I certainly did not intend to. Ohcanada posted a pic and an open-ended attack on Francine Byrd a few nights ago. I responded to Ohcanada in a harsh matter and I was TRYING to keep Francine's name out of it.  Last night, Janet (innocently) revealed Francine's name. I know her intentions were sincere and righteous, but she apparently did not see my previous posts. Janet was annoyed at me. I sincerely apologize -- I was just trying to spare Francine from being reintroduced to those ridiculous accusations.
I was also here last night......it was a MISUNDERSTANDING...oh...give me a break (as in I'm not buying the BS)...canada



   
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« Reply #1935 on: May 17, 2009, 02:04:46 AM »
   
Quote from: billb on May 17, 2009, 01:56:24 AM
Team,
Don't let oh....give me a break...canada...come between us...That is the dark sides plan....
Keep the focus where it belongs...Justice for Natalee!
Keep it real folks....
Wreck posted...
You are right -- I'm sorry. It is just that oh____ posted a pic of her a few nights ago and it really infuriated me. I posted a response that it was really unfair to dredge Francine's name up again after 4 years. She is only guilty of being one of Natalee's closest friends. I was hoping to keep her name out of this latest dribble from OC.
Quote from: billb....
A MISUNDERSTANDING.....
Janet will be back....
We are all here after 4 years for ONE THING....
JUSTICE FOR NATALEE.........
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« Reply #237 on: May 18, 2009, 02:47:57 AM »

started out at a few early forums looking for any info on Natalee...
Didn't take me long to figure out SM was THE place for JUSTICE FOR NATALEE!
Good Night Good monkeys......
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« Reply #238 on: May 18, 2009, 04:52:05 AM »

texasmom,

I'm hoping Sandy Leiva was catching up in the last thread and can do her magic on that casino article for us. 

Me too!  Just in case she or Cageman happens to come here first...we would really appreciate some help understanding this article.

Thanks in advance!   


http://www.24ora.com/content/view/9095/5/#jc_allComments

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Casino na Holiday Inn a hera keda sin controlador di casino.     

Saturday, 16 May 2009 - 19:46 

Ultimo dianan aki e preparacion y discusion rond di a gamingboard a cuminsa lanta cabez atrobe. Tin manera un tension mey mey di e controladornan cu no sa kiko lo para cu nan. Parce cu e intencion ta pa elimina e control den porta di casinonan. Ta ser papia cu for di e proximo dianan kier cuminsa cu e maneho nobo cu un (1) controlador pa controla dos casino pareu. Esey ta algo contra ley segun e sindicato pasobra un casino no por habri si no tin controlador di casino na entrada. Diasabra mainta e controlador cu a bai traha na Holliday Inn a bin haya un sorpresa pasobra nan desk a desparece. Nan material di trabao no tabata tey. Sindicato a cay aden mesora. Click lesa mas pa sa kikoa pasa!

Despues di varios yamada parce cu e desk a bin bek na su lugar. Na Holliday Inn ta e unico casino cual a perde su prome desk. Por spera mas problema proximamente cu henter e asunto di controlador di casino.

Papiamentu translation:

casino at holiday inn owing to hera stay without controlador of casino.

saturday, 16 may 2009 - 19:46

ultimo dianan here the preparacion y discusion rond of owing to gamingboard owing to cuminsa arise cabez again. have as one tension mey mey of the controladornan cu not know what will stop cu they. seems cu the intencion is for elimina the control in door of casinonan. is being talk cu for of the proximo dianan wanted cuminsa cu the maneho new cu one (1) controlador for controla two casino equal. esey is algo contra ley according the sindicato because one casino not can open if not have controlador of casino at entrance. saturday morning the controlador cu owing to go work at holliday inn owing to come achieve one surprise because they desk owing to desparece. they material of trabao not was tey. sindicato owing to cay inside at once. click read more for know kikoa happen! after of several call seems cu the desk owing to come bek at his lugar. at holliday inn is the unique casino cual owing to lose his first desk. can wait for more problem proximamente cu all the asunto of controlador of casino. come across


Edit to add the picture!   

apparently the controller of the casino has left the coop.  others intended to take his place but that is contrary to casino rules and laws governing the casino of the holiday inn.  someone suggested having another controller from another hotel to run both casinos which was again illegal.  All were shocked when still by saturday -no casino controller arrived.  After looking thru the controllers work desk they were suprised to find all books and info in regard to running the casino was alwso missing.article says stay tuned for more info forthcoming. also be ready to read about more problems coming forth stemming from this incident.



By the way in the last thread the two missing girls were returned home in the middle of the night with what appears to be bruises from beatings. They believe it was from a gang related incident with much of the real reson behind the missing girls left out of the story.  The parents states in the article they were happy to have thier daughters returned home allbeit with bruises noted.  Sorry this is just what I gathered from reading the article and i did not copy paste it for reference.   sl

It is not my habit to correct someone and certainly not to be offensive, but in this case I think the translation of Sandy is a bit loose. If you don't mind I give here my translation.

In the last few days again a discussion came up about the Gamingboard. In some way there is a commotion between the controllers (= bouncers), who do not know what will happen to them. There seems to be a plan to get rid of the checks at the casino doors. It is said that in the coming days they will start a new procedure with one bouncer controlling two casino's at the same time. According the labour union that is against the law because without a bouncer a casino is not allowed to open his doors. Saturday morning a bouncer went to work and found to his surprise that his desk had disappeared. There was no way to work. The labour union took the case immediately. Click here to know what happened more.

After some questions the desk seems to be returned again. At the Holliday Inn is the only casino who lost his first desk. We can expect more problems in this case with the bouncers of casino's.
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« Reply #239 on: May 18, 2009, 08:21:33 AM »

Good Morning Monkeys!   


Thanks Cageman!   





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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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