Natalee Case Discussion #819 5/17/09 - 6/10/09

[hotping]

I just heard a blurb on CBS 42 - Birmingham......said that they would be broadcasting live
from Aruba on Monday with a report on new information in the Natalee Holloway story and
what locals in Aruba have to say.

For Some Reason I Don't Believe that its about closing the case..... I have Hope and I'm Keepin the Faith! 

[texasmom]

I just heard a blurb on CBS 42 - Birmingham......said that they would be broadcasting live
from Aruba on Monday with a report on new information in the Natalee Holloway story and
what locals in Aruba have to say.

Thanks Magnolia!  

[hotping]

I know Kermit and Edward are probably right, but I don't want to think that they'll never give her back.

     

I am here til Beth says it is over and she has not said it's over yet.  I guess I will be here for the next 40 years hoping I am adding to the rock's misery for what they have done (covered up) to Natalee and her family.   

You won't be alone.   

No She Won't Be! I'm Here with All Monkeys for the Next 36 Years if Necessary!     

[Blue Moon]

I know Kermit and Edward are probably right, but I don't want to think that they'll never give her back.

     

I am here til Beth says it is over and she has not said it's over yet.  I guess I will be here for the next 40 years hoping I am adding to the rock's misery for what they have done (covered up) to Natalee and her family.   

You won't be alone.   

No She Won't Be! I'm Here with All Monkeys for the Next 36 Years if Necessary!     

Hotping I am like Beth "I just hope I have that long".  40 years is pushing it for me.   

[sandy leiva]

texasmom,

I'm hoping Sandy Leiva was catching up in the last thread and can do her magic on that casino article for us. 

Me too!  Just in case she or Cageman happens to come here first...we would really appreciate some help understanding this article.

Thanks in advance!   


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Original text:



Casino na Holiday Inn a hera keda sin controlador di casino.     

Saturday, 16 May 2009 - 19:46 

Ultimo dianan aki e preparacion y discusion rond di a gamingboard a cuminsa lanta cabez atrobe. Tin manera un tension mey mey di e controladornan cu no sa kiko lo para cu nan. Parce cu e intencion ta pa elimina e control den porta di casinonan. Ta ser papia cu for di e proximo dianan kier cuminsa cu e maneho nobo cu un (1) controlador pa controla dos casino pareu. Esey ta algo contra ley segun e sindicato pasobra un casino no por habri si no tin controlador di casino na entrada. Diasabra mainta e controlador cu a bai traha na Holliday Inn a bin haya un sorpresa pasobra nan desk a desparece. Nan material di trabao no tabata tey. Sindicato a cay aden mesora. Click lesa mas pa sa kikoa pasa!

Despues di varios yamada parce cu e desk a bin bek na su lugar. Na Holliday Inn ta e unico casino cual a perde su prome desk. Por spera mas problema proximamente cu henter e asunto di controlador di casino.

Papiamentu translation:

casino at holiday inn owing to hera stay without controlador of casino.

saturday, 16 may 2009 - 19:46

ultimo dianan here the preparacion y discusion rond of owing to gamingboard owing to cuminsa arise cabez again. have as one tension mey mey of the controladornan cu not know what will stop cu they. seems cu the intencion is for elimina the control in door of casinonan. is being talk cu for of the proximo dianan wanted cuminsa cu the maneho new cu one (1) controlador for controla two casino equal. esey is algo contra ley according the sindicato because one casino not can open if not have controlador of casino at entrance. saturday morning the controlador cu owing to go work at holliday inn owing to come achieve one surprise because they desk owing to desparece. they material of trabao not was tey. sindicato owing to cay inside at once. click read more for know kikoa happen! after of several call seems cu the desk owing to come bek at his lugar. at holliday inn is the unique casino cual owing to lose his first desk. can wait for more problem proximamente cu all the asunto of controlador of casino. come across

Edit to add the picture!   

apparently the controller of the casino has left the coop.  others intended to take his place but that is contrary to casino rules and laws governing the casino of the holiday inn.  someone suggested having another controller from another hotel to run both casinos which was again illegal.  All were shocked when still by saturday -no casino controller arrived.  After looking thru the controllers work desk they were suprised to find all books and info in regard to running the casino was alwso missing.article says stay tuned for more info forthcoming. also be ready to read about more problems coming forth stemming from this incident.



By the way in the last thread the two missing girls were returned home in the middle of the night with what appears to be bruises from beatings. They believe it was from a gang related incident with much of the real reson behind the missing girls left out of the story.  The parents states in the article they were happy to have thier daughters returned home allbeit with bruises noted.  Sorry this is just what I gathered from reading the article and i did not copy paste it for reference.   sl

[texasmom]

texasmom,

I'm hoping Sandy Leiva was catching up in the last thread and can do her magic on that casino article for us. 

Me too!  Just in case she or Cageman happens to come here first...we would really appreciate some help understanding this article.

Thanks in advance!   


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Original text:



Casino na Holiday Inn a hera keda sin controlador di casino.     

Saturday, 16 May 2009 - 19:46 

Ultimo dianan aki e preparacion y discusion rond di a gamingboard a cuminsa lanta cabez atrobe. Tin manera un tension mey mey di e controladornan cu no sa kiko lo para cu nan. Parce cu e intencion ta pa elimina e control den porta di casinonan. Ta ser papia cu for di e proximo dianan kier cuminsa cu e maneho nobo cu un (1) controlador pa controla dos casino pareu. Esey ta algo contra ley segun e sindicato pasobra un casino no por habri si no tin controlador di casino na entrada. Diasabra mainta e controlador cu a bai traha na Holliday Inn a bin haya un sorpresa pasobra nan desk a desparece. Nan material di trabao no tabata tey. Sindicato a cay aden mesora. Click lesa mas pa sa kikoa pasa!

Despues di varios yamada parce cu e desk a bin bek na su lugar. Na Holliday Inn ta e unico casino cual a perde su prome desk. Por spera mas problema proximamente cu henter e asunto di controlador di casino.

Papiamentu translation:

casino at holiday inn owing to hera stay without controlador of casino.

saturday, 16 may 2009 - 19:46

ultimo dianan here the preparacion y discusion rond of owing to gamingboard owing to cuminsa arise cabez again. have as one tension mey mey of the controladornan cu not know what will stop cu they. seems cu the intencion is for elimina the control in door of casinonan. is being talk cu for of the proximo dianan wanted cuminsa cu the maneho new cu one (1) controlador for controla two casino equal. esey is algo contra ley according the sindicato because one casino not can open if not have controlador of casino at entrance. saturday morning the controlador cu owing to go work at holliday inn owing to come achieve one surprise because they desk owing to desparece. they material of trabao not was tey. sindicato owing to cay inside at once. click read more for know kikoa happen! after of several call seems cu the desk owing to come bek at his lugar. at holliday inn is the unique casino cual owing to lose his first desk. can wait for more problem proximamente cu all the asunto of controlador of casino. come across

Edit to add the picture!   

apparently the controller of the casino has left the coop.  others intended to take his place but that is contrary to casino rules and laws governing the casino of the holiday inn.  someone suggested having another controller from another hotel to run both casinos which was again illegal.  All were shocked when still by saturday -no casino controller arrived.  After looking thru the controllers work desk they were suprised to find all books and info in regard to running the casino was alwso missing.article says stay tuned for more info forthcoming. also be ready to read about more problems coming forth stemming from this incident.



By the way in the last thread the two missing girls were returned home in the middle of the night with what appears to be bruises from beatings. They believe it was from a gang related incident with much of the real reson behind the missing girls left out of the story.  The parents states in the article they were happy to have thier daughters returned home allbeit with bruises noted.  Sorry this is just what I gathered from reading the article and i did not copy paste it for reference.   sl

Thank you SandyLeiva!   


I really appreciate your clarifying both stories for us.  I saw the mention of the gang in the missing girls stories...and even thought I might have seen a death threat...but I wasn't sure so I didn't post that.  I got the impression that it may have had something to do with another family member.  I missed the bruises though.  It's really hard to decipher papiamentu, and I don't trust my interpretations enough to try to clarify most of the time.  Usually just keep looking for a better translation of the story.   

Thanks again! 

[Magnolia]

I just heard a blurb on CBS 42 - Birmingham......said that they would be broadcasting live
from Aruba on Monday with a report on new information in the Natalee Holloway story and
what locals in Aruba have to say.

For Some Reason I Don't Believe that its about closing the case..... I have Hope and I'm Keepin the Faith! 

Just heard another blurb.  It will be on at ten o'clock on Monday.  They showed Jossy and said that
Aruba just wants to forget about Natalee but there are too many people unwilling for that to happen.
There are too many people who insist on answers.
 

[Blue Moon]

texasmom,

I'm hoping Sandy Leiva was catching up in the last thread and can do her magic on that casino article for us. 

Me too!  Just in case she or Cageman happens to come here first...we would really appreciate some help understanding this article.

Thanks in advance!   


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Original text:



Casino na Holiday Inn a hera keda sin controlador di casino.     

Saturday, 16 May 2009 - 19:46 

Ultimo dianan aki e preparacion y discusion rond di a gamingboard a cuminsa lanta cabez atrobe. Tin manera un tension mey mey di e controladornan cu no sa kiko lo para cu nan. Parce cu e intencion ta pa elimina e control den porta di casinonan. Ta ser papia cu for di e proximo dianan kier cuminsa cu e maneho nobo cu un (1) controlador pa controla dos casino pareu. Esey ta algo contra ley segun e sindicato pasobra un casino no por habri si no tin controlador di casino na entrada. Diasabra mainta e controlador cu a bai traha na Holliday Inn a bin haya un sorpresa pasobra nan desk a desparece. Nan material di trabao no tabata tey. Sindicato a cay aden mesora. Click lesa mas pa sa kikoa pasa!

Despues di varios yamada parce cu e desk a bin bek na su lugar. Na Holliday Inn ta e unico casino cual a perde su prome desk. Por spera mas problema proximamente cu henter e asunto di controlador di casino.

Papiamentu translation:

casino at holiday inn owing to hera stay without controlador of casino.

saturday, 16 may 2009 - 19:46

ultimo dianan here the preparacion y discusion rond of owing to gamingboard owing to cuminsa arise cabez again. have as one tension mey mey of the controladornan cu not know what will stop cu they. seems cu the intencion is for elimina the control in door of casinonan. is being talk cu for of the proximo dianan wanted cuminsa cu the maneho new cu one (1) controlador for controla two casino equal. esey is algo contra ley according the sindicato because one casino not can open if not have controlador of casino at entrance. saturday morning the controlador cu owing to go work at holliday inn owing to come achieve one surprise because they desk owing to desparece. they material of trabao not was tey. sindicato owing to cay inside at once. click read more for know kikoa happen! after of several call seems cu the desk owing to come bek at his lugar. at holliday inn is the unique casino cual owing to lose his first desk. can wait for more problem proximamente cu all the asunto of controlador of casino. come across

Edit to add the picture!   

apparently the controller of the casino has left the coop.  others intended to take his place but that is contrary to casino rules and laws governing the casino of the holiday inn.  someone suggested having another controller from another hotel to run both casinos which was again illegal.  All were shocked when still by saturday -no casino controller arrived.  After looking thru the controllers work desk they were suprised to find all books and info in regard to running the casino was alwso missing.article says stay tuned for more info forthcoming. also be ready to read about more problems coming forth stemming from this incident.



By the way in the last thread the two missing girls were returned home in the middle of the night with what appears to be bruises from beatings. They believe it was from a gang related incident with much of the real reson behind the missing girls left out of the story.  The parents states in the article they were happy to have thier daughters returned home allbeit with bruises noted.  Sorry this is just what I gathered from reading the article and i did not copy paste it for reference.   sl

thanks Sandy.  Sounds like someone fled the coop along with the books and my guess money.  Why go to all that trouble if they didn't embezzle money.  I hope they got off that island as their "azz is grazz" as we say here in the south. 

[klaasend]

I just heard a blurb on CBS 42 - Birmingham......said that they would be broadcasting live
from Aruba on Monday with a report on new information in the Natalee Holloway story and
what locals in Aruba have to say.

HUH?  Wonder if this is that Jaap broadcast?

[Blue Moon]

I just heard a blurb on CBS 42 - Birmingham......said that they would be broadcasting live
from Aruba on Monday with a report on new information in the Natalee Holloway story and
what locals in Aruba have to say.

For Some Reason I Don't Believe that its about closing the case..... I have Hope and I'm Keepin the Faith! 

Just heard another blurb.  It will be on at ten o'clock on Monday.  They showed Jossy and said that
Aruba just wants to forget about Natalee but there are too many people unwilling for that to happen.
There are too many people who insist on answers.
 

They are slacking up on following the Monkeys.  They just have not got it yet Those Fools.   

[sandy leiva]

texasmom,

I'm hoping Sandy Leiva was catching up in the last thread and can do her magic on that casino article for us. 

Me too!  Just in case she or Cageman happens to come here first...we would really appreciate some help understanding this article.

Thanks in advance!   


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Original text:



Casino na Holiday Inn a hera keda sin controlador di casino.     

Saturday, 16 May 2009 - 19:46 

Ultimo dianan aki e preparacion y discusion rond di a gamingboard a cuminsa lanta cabez atrobe. Tin manera un tension mey mey di e controladornan cu no sa kiko lo para cu nan. Parce cu e intencion ta pa elimina e control den porta di casinonan. Ta ser papia cu for di e proximo dianan kier cuminsa cu e maneho nobo cu un (1) controlador pa controla dos casino pareu. Esey ta algo contra ley segun e sindicato pasobra un casino no por habri si no tin controlador di casino na entrada. Diasabra mainta e controlador cu a bai traha na Holliday Inn a bin haya un sorpresa pasobra nan desk a desparece. Nan material di trabao no tabata tey. Sindicato a cay aden mesora. Click lesa mas pa sa kikoa pasa!

Despues di varios yamada parce cu e desk a bin bek na su lugar. Na Holliday Inn ta e unico casino cual a perde su prome desk. Por spera mas problema proximamente cu henter e asunto di controlador di casino.

Papiamentu translation:

casino at holiday inn owing to hera stay without controlador of casino.

saturday, 16 may 2009 - 19:46

ultimo dianan here the preparacion y discusion rond of owing to gamingboard owing to cuminsa arise cabez again. have as one tension mey mey of the controladornan cu not know what will stop cu they. seems cu the intencion is for elimina the control in door of casinonan. is being talk cu for of the proximo dianan wanted cuminsa cu the maneho new cu one (1) controlador for controla two casino equal. esey is algo contra ley according the sindicato because one casino not can open if not have controlador of casino at entrance. saturday morning the controlador cu owing to go work at holliday inn owing to come achieve one surprise because they desk owing to desparece. they material of trabao not was tey. sindicato owing to cay inside at once. click read more for know kikoa happen! after of several call seems cu the desk owing to come bek at his lugar. at holliday inn is the unique casino cual owing to lose his first desk. can wait for more problem proximamente cu all the asunto of controlador of casino. come across

Edit to add the picture!   

apparently the controller of the casino has left the coop.  others intended to take his place but that is contrary to casino rules and laws governing the casino of the holiday inn.  someone suggested having another controller from another hotel to run both casinos which was again illegal.  All were shocked when still by saturday -no casino controller arrived.  After looking thru the controllers work desk they were suprised to find all books and info in regard to running the casino was alwso missing.article says stay tuned for more info forthcoming. also be ready to read about more problems coming forth stemming from this incident.



By the way in the last thread the two missing girls were returned home in the middle of the night with what appears to be bruises from beatings. They believe it was from a gang related incident with much of the real reson behind the missing girls left out of the story.  The parents states in the article they were happy to have thier daughters returned home allbeit with bruises noted.  Sorry this is just what I gathered from reading the article and i did not copy paste it for reference.   sl

Thank you SandyLeiva!   


I really appreciate your clarifying both stories for us.  I saw the mention of the gang in the missing girls stories...and even thought I might have seen a death threat...but I wasn't sure so I didn't post that.  I got the impression that it may have had something to do with another family member.  I missed the bruises though.  It's really hard to decipher papiamentu, and I don't trust my interpretations enough to try to clarify most of the time.  Usually just keep looking for a better translation of the story.   

Thanks again! 

your welcome hope i did it justice.  By the way notice that even though those girls went missing for more than a few days and the mother called th e police and notified the papers asking for any info on her girls for people to please report it , the police did a miserable job of searching an very little or no info was printed on a police search.  I guess that females on that island are all considered expendable.  These two were lucky to have arrived back home- again much more to the story than what was printed.  Id love it if those girls talked to the press about thier ordeal and charges were forthcoming against the perps. sl

[Keepthefaith]

I just heard a blurb on CBS 42 - Birmingham......said that they would be broadcasting live
from Aruba on Monday with a report on new information in the Natalee Holloway story and
what locals in Aruba have to say.

For Some Reason I Don't Believe that its about closing the case..... I have Hope and I'm Keepin the Faith! 

Just heard another blurb.  It will be on at ten o'clock on Monday.  They showed Jossy and said that
Aruba just wants to forget about Natalee but there are too many people unwilling for that to happen.
There are too many people who insist on answers.
 

Damn right we aren't going to let Aruba forget..EVER!If Aruba wants to make amends they'll turn Paulus and the Perps over to Wreck,Billb,Rob and i for a conoeing trip down the Cahulawassee River in the remote Georgia wilderness,as well as send Natalee Holloway home...That's a start!Otherwise at least 36yrs to go....Aruba needs to understand that there will be baby monkey's that grow up at will keep the movement going.....

[hotping]

I know Kermit and Edward are probably right, but I don't want to think that they'll never give her back.

     

I am here til Beth says it is over and she has not said it's over yet.  I guess I will be here for the next 40 years hoping I am adding to the rock's misery for what they have done (covered up) to Natalee and her family.   

You won't be alone.   

No She Won't Be! I'm Here with All Monkeys for the Next 36 Years if Necessary!     

Hotping I am like Beth "I just hope I have that long".  40 years is pushing it for me.   

Me Too Blue Moon! 

[hotping]

I just heard a blurb on CBS 42 - Birmingham......said that they would be broadcasting live
from Aruba on Monday with a report on new information in the Natalee Holloway story and
what locals in Aruba have to say.

For Some Reason I Don't Believe that its about closing the case..... I have Hope and I'm Keepin the Faith! 

Just heard another blurb.  It will be on at ten o'clock on Monday.  They showed Jossy and said that
Aruba just wants to forget about Natalee but there are too many people unwilling for that to happen.
There are too many people who insist on answers.
 

Thank You Magnolia for the blurb reports! 

[Anna]

Maybe it's an Anniversary report since this is the month Natalee disappeared? 

I tend to think the Joran/Jaap connection would be featured in The Netherlands instead of Aruba but it could be related to the anniversary of Natalee's disappearance I think?

[klaasend]

Maybe it's an Anniversary report since this is the month Natalee disappeared? 

I tend to think the Joran/Jaap connection would be featured in The Netherlands instead of Aruba but it could be related to the anniversary of Natalee's disappearance I think?

Good thinking Anna, it could be an anniversary thing but of course the 25th is not the anniversary.  Still very likely a 4 years later type show.

[Magnolia]

I don't kow if it is an anniversery thing....they didn't say.  I was just sharing what I heard.

[texasmom]

texasmom,

I'm hoping Sandy Leiva was catching up in the last thread and can do her magic on that casino article for us. 

Me too!  Just in case she or Cageman happens to come here first...we would really appreciate some help understanding this article.

Thanks in advance!   


http://www.24ora.com/content/view/9095/5/#jc_allComments

Original text:



Casino na Holiday Inn a hera keda sin controlador di casino.     

Saturday, 16 May 2009 - 19:46 

Ultimo dianan aki e preparacion y discusion rond di a gamingboard a cuminsa lanta cabez atrobe. Tin manera un tension mey mey di e controladornan cu no sa kiko lo para cu nan. Parce cu e intencion ta pa elimina e control den porta di casinonan. Ta ser papia cu for di e proximo dianan kier cuminsa cu e maneho nobo cu un (1) controlador pa controla dos casino pareu. Esey ta algo contra ley segun e sindicato pasobra un casino no por habri si no tin controlador di casino na entrada. Diasabra mainta e controlador cu a bai traha na Holliday Inn a bin haya un sorpresa pasobra nan desk a desparece. Nan material di trabao no tabata tey. Sindicato a cay aden mesora. Click lesa mas pa sa kikoa pasa!

Despues di varios yamada parce cu e desk a bin bek na su lugar. Na Holliday Inn ta e unico casino cual a perde su prome desk. Por spera mas problema proximamente cu henter e asunto di controlador di casino.

Papiamentu translation:

casino at holiday inn owing to hera stay without controlador of casino.

saturday, 16 may 2009 - 19:46

ultimo dianan here the preparacion y discusion rond of owing to gamingboard owing to cuminsa arise cabez again. have as one tension mey mey of the controladornan cu not know what will stop cu they. seems cu the intencion is for elimina the control in door of casinonan. is being talk cu for of the proximo dianan wanted cuminsa cu the maneho new cu one (1) controlador for controla two casino equal. esey is algo contra ley according the sindicato because one casino not can open if not have controlador of casino at entrance. saturday morning the controlador cu owing to go work at holliday inn owing to come achieve one surprise because they desk owing to desparece. they material of trabao not was tey. sindicato owing to cay inside at once. click read more for know kikoa happen! after of several call seems cu the desk owing to come bek at his lugar. at holliday inn is the unique casino cual owing to lose his first desk. can wait for more problem proximamente cu all the asunto of controlador of casino. come across

Edit to add the picture!   

apparently the controller of the casino has left the coop.  others intended to take his place but that is contrary to casino rules and laws governing the casino of the holiday inn.  someone suggested having another controller from another hotel to run both casinos which was again illegal.  All were shocked when still by saturday -no casino controller arrived.  After looking thru the controllers work desk they were suprised to find all books and info in regard to running the casino was alwso missing.article says stay tuned for more info forthcoming. also be ready to read about more problems coming forth stemming from this incident.



By the way in the last thread the two missing girls were returned home in the middle of the night with what appears to be bruises from beatings. They believe it was from a gang related incident with much of the real reson behind the missing girls left out of the story.  The parents states in the article they were happy to have thier daughters returned home allbeit with bruises noted.  Sorry this is just what I gathered from reading the article and i did not copy paste it for reference.   sl

Thank you SandyLeiva!   


I really appreciate your clarifying both stories for us.  I saw the mention of the gang in the missing girls stories...and even thought I might have seen a death threat...but I wasn't sure so I didn't post that.  I got the impression that it may have had something to do with another family member.  I missed the bruises though.  It's really hard to decipher papiamentu, and I don't trust my interpretations enough to try to clarify most of the time.  Usually just keep looking for a better translation of the story.   

Thanks again! 

your welcome hope i did it justice.  By the way notice that even though those girls went missing for more than a few days and the mother called th e police and notified the papers asking for any info on her girls for people to please report it , the police did a miserable job of searching an very little or no info was printed on a police search.  I guess that females on that island are all considered expendable.  These two were lucky to have arrived back home- again much more to the story than what was printed.  Id love it if those girls talked to the press about thier ordeal and charges were forthcoming against the perps. sl

I'm sure you are very accurate Sandy, you have a far better understanding of the language than I.  I'm so thankful for you!

You do know there is still another young girl missing.

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[texasmom]

I just heard a blurb on CBS 42 - Birmingham......said that they would be broadcasting live
from Aruba on Monday with a report on new information in the Natalee Holloway story and
what locals in Aruba have to say.

For Some Reason I Don't Believe that its about closing the case..... I have Hope and I'm Keepin the Faith! 

Just heard another blurb.  It will be on at ten o'clock on Monday.  They showed Jossy and said that
Aruba just wants to forget about Natalee but there are too many people unwilling for that to happen.
There are too many people who insist on answers.
 

 

Thanks Magnolia!   

[klaasend]

I don't kow if it is an anniversery thing....they didn't say.  I was just sharing what I heard.

No matter what it is, I'm glad it's going to be on TV tomorrow night!  Thanks for letting us know!