Natalee Case Discussion #819 5/17/09 - 6/10/09

[AZSunny]

What do we have, 45 minutes until showtime?

Help,  I am out of loop....what are we watching in 45 minutes...????????????  thanks.

AZSunny - CBS in Birmingham has been advertising a special show starting tonight and going for a few days this week at the 10pm show.  Jossy is going to reveal some information I think..  Who knows?  We are all waiting for the first show at 10pm central time.

OK,  so nationally on CBS?  thanks! I will try for it. 

[klaasend]

What do we have, 45 minutes until showtime?

Help,  I am out of loop....what are we watching in 45 minutes...????????????  thanks.

AZSunny - CBS in Birmingham has been advertising a special show starting tonight and going for a few days this week at the 10pm show.  Jossy is going to reveal some information I think..  Who knows?  We are all waiting for the first show at 10pm central time.

OK,  so nationally on CBS?  thanks! I will try for it. 

AZSunny - no I don't think nationally, I think it's CBS42 in Birmingham only as far as I know.

[AZSunny]

What do we have, 45 minutes until showtime?

Help,  I am out of loop....what are we watching in 45 minutes...????????????  thanks.

AZSunny - CBS in Birmingham has been advertising a special show starting tonight and going for a few days this week at the 10pm show.  Jossy is going to reveal some information I think..  Who knows?  We are all waiting for the first show at 10pm central time.

OK,  so nationally on CBS?  thanks! I will try for it. 

AZSunny - no I don't think nationally, I think it's CBS42 in Birmingham only as far as I know.

Well, of course, I should have figured that out!  duh,  old lady moment. 

[hotping]

Hi TM! I hope You have had a good day! 

[bc73]

If the link to the station CBS42 has already been posted, sorry in advance, but it summarizes the Aruba situation here http://www.cbs42.com/content/localnews/story/Aruba-Four-Years-Later-Financial-Impact/7geuMti81UaVpRrYgOEoOg.cspx

[hotping]

hotping, Keepthefaith, Magnolia, Helen Back, bc73, AZSunny, Blue Moon, SuzieQ, wreck, klaasend, texasmom, MuffyBee, Patriot, mytime, Buckeye, Tamikosmom and 11 Guests
Good Evening Everyone!

Where's Anna?  I could have sworn I saw billb a few minutes ago.....

[bc73]

If the link to the station CBS42 has already been posted, sorry in advance, but it summarizes the Aruba situation here http://www.cbs42.com/content/localnews/story/Aruba-Four-Years-Later-Financial-Impact/7geuMti81UaVpRrYgOEoOg.cspx

Sorry monkeys, I guess I missed the 85 links and quotes to that,oops....

[texasmom]

Janet Anna And TM are Missing.....I Miss Them!  Please Come Back Janet and Anna! Pretty Please with a Banana on Top! 

TexasMom:  Last Active:     Today at 06:31:30 PM

I'm here catching up, jury duty today....it was a lonnnnnnng day...took a nap.

[klaasend]

BC73 - I'm glad you posted the link again.  Saved me from bumping the link forward 

[Keepthefaith]

Janet Anna And TM are Missing.....I Miss Them!  Please Come Back Janet and Anna! Pretty Please with a Banana on Top! 

TexasMom:  Last Active:     Today at 06:31:30 PM

I'm here catching up, jury duty today....it was a lonnnnnnng day...took a nap.

Don't tell me the nap was during trial??????

[Magnolia]

Latest tease from CBS 42...... Cynthia Gould said:  What I uncovered on my trip to Aruba that
has never been disclosed until now coming up at 10.

[Keepthefaith]

 

[texasmom]

Hi TM! I hope You have had a good day! 

Hi Hotping!  I hope you've had a good day too!   

[AZSunny]

BC73 - I'm glad you posted the link again.  Saved me from bumping the link forward 

Klaas, is there a way to watch this live?  I read the article, but looking for another link i am not seeing.  HELP?   Or are we waiting for someone to transcribe it for us.  I think I need some of Magnolia's blueberry wine.....i am so confused?????

[texasmom]

Janet Anna And TM are Missing.....I Miss Them!  Please Come Back Janet and Anna! Pretty Please with a Banana on Top! 

TexasMom:  Last Active:     Today at 06:31:30 PM

I'm here catching up, jury duty today....it was a lonnnnnnng day...took a nap.

Don't tell me the nap was during trial??????

 

Noooo KTF, jury selection took all day today; the trial starts tomorrow.  I was not chosen, I'm thankful.  But I am always willing to do my duty as a citizen and have sat on a few juries.

[AZSunny]

Latest tease from CBS 42...... Cynthia Gould said:  What I uncovered on my trip to Aruba that
has never been disclosed until now coming up at 10.

OK,  are you transcribing for us Magnolia, or are you serving the wine?

[klaasend]

Latest tease from CBS 42...... Cynthia Gould said:  What I uncovered on my trip to Aruba that
has never been disclosed until now coming up at 10.

Cool!

I know this is a burden but if you could sortof keep us updated throughout the program it would be wonderful!  I do believe they will have transcripts up on the website later, hopefully! 

[klaasend]

There is a link on the CBS website for TV but I don't now if it can be watched live.  They did update their thread about the show tonight with more info:

http://www.cbs42.com/content/localnews/story/Where-is-the-Natalee-Holloway-Investigation-Today/luzB0UvRiEa6F0FL4nb2Ww.cspx

Where is the Natalee Holloway Investigation Today?
  Reported by: Kimberly Rankin
Reported by: Cynthia Gould
Last Update: 4:17 pm 

 

(AP) May marks the four year anniversary of the disappearance of Natallee Holloway.  CBS 42 was in Aruba recently to find out what's happening with the investigation.  We uncovered some new allegations and more claims of a botched investigation.

Beautiful beaches, clear blue water and plenty of sunshine.  But this island still lives under a cloud.

“It's still hurting us.”

Both police and prosecutors refused to talk about the Holloway case, only saying it's open and they are following leads.

“Officially it is still open, but I don't think they are doing anything with it.”

Jossy Mansuer, who's lived on the island all his life, owns Diario, the local newspaper.  Diario's stories often directed police to witnesses and leads.


“We know more or less what happened.  She was done away with.  Murder? Yes,” said Mansuer.

“Classic case of money, power and never getting caught?”

“Exactly, influence, political, specifically from Holland,” said Mansuer.


Mansuer says the investigation was clouded by the fact that the father of suspect Joran van der Sloot was a judge who worked with the same authorities handling the Holloway case.

“He was working with all these people.  Judges developed close friendships or understandings.  I have documents that have never been published in which Joran makes statements, which were corrected in his father's handwriting saying things that call attention not to foul play but favoritism,” said Mansuer.

Mansuer questions why the three suspects were not arrested within the first 24 hours, and claims many leads were not followed.  He's also trying to confirm whether Joran confessed early on.

“The only super secret information we are after, we heard there was a confession...the papers have disappeared.”

He discounts theories Natalee was sold into sex slavery.  No similar cases have ever come up.  And as for an accidental overdose, not likely according to Mansuer, since the laws are so lenient in those cases, someone would have come forward to tell what happened.

Mansuer says the release of secret recordings made of Joran turned the island against him and brought renewed sympathy for the family, despite hard feelings over earlier calls for a tourist boycott.

We were unable to talk with anyone at the van der Sloot home in Aruba.  Joran has proclaimed his innocence in interviews, but there are still many doubters on the island.

"After all the stories, it looks like he had something to do with it,” said Evert jan van Versendaal.

Those who knew Joran from school were surprised by the accusations.

"At the school he seemed fine his mother art teacher two brothers all of them regular," said Daniel Ferrara.

But Mansuer paints a much different, darker picture...a young man with a troubled past whose parents always came to the rescue.

“This guy is way beyond control with his anger and that he is capable of doing anything,” said Mansuer.

Natallee was last seen alive at a night club called Carlos and Charlies, which is now closed, getting into the car with Joran van der Sloot and the Kalpoe brothers.

Mansuer says many in Aruba theorize she was drugged, sexually assaulted then killed...her body likely dumped in the ocean.  Natalee's father organizes periodic searches on the island.

“With time I think may be solved with time.  Don't think in the short term unless a miracle and we find Natalee's remains,” said Mansuer.

In the long term, it's a story that is still very much alive.

“It's definitely something going to be in our hearts and our minds forever.”

Joran van der Sloot we're told is still in Holland.  The Kalpoe brothers live quietly on the island, refusing interviews and staying out of the limelight.
 

[Magnolia]

Latest tease from CBS 42...... Cynthia Gould said:  What I uncovered on my trip to Aruba that
has never been disclosed until now coming up at 10.

Cool!

I know this is a burden but if you could sortof keep us updated throughout the program it would be wonderful!  I do believe they will have transcripts up on the website later, hopefully! 

I will do what I can.  At 5:00 Hotping posted the transcript before I could type what I heard.
Maybe they will get the new transcript up quickly.

[klaasend]