Natalee Case Discussion #819 5/17/09 - 6/10/09

[Keepthefaith]

Jossy said it will never be solved unless a miracle happens and her remains are found!

Whatta bet Jossy knows those remains will never be found...So.Again.The whole Island knows Natalee Holloway was DRUGGED,RAPED AND MURDERED.They know who did it but,NOTHING WILL EVER HAPPEN!


THE PERSISTENCE AND THE CONTINUED COVER-UP IS WHERE IT'S AT

[AZSunny]

Jossy said it will never be solved unless a miracle happens and her remains are found!

A miracle did happen. 

thanks Magnolia

[klaasend]

Magnolia - thanks!  Are they going to continue the reports tomorrow night?

[Buckeye]

Thanks, Magnolia.

[Keepthefaith]

Jossy said it will never be solved unless a miracle happens and her remains are found!

A miracle did happen. 

thanks Magnolia

YES IT DID....

[crazybabyborg]

Thanks Magnolia!! 

[Magnolia]

I am anxious to see the transcript of the Jossy interview.
I didn't hear any never before disclosed information.
The reporter went to the Sloot's house but they wouldn't come to the door.
Jossy said about Van der Straten showing favoritism.

[AZSunny]

HEALTH BENEFITS;

Research has shown that blueberries are loaded with cell-protecting antioxidants called anthocyanins. Of the forty fruits and vegetables tested, blueberries had the highest antioxidant capacity. Antioxidants have the potential to prevent cancer and can slow the oxidation of LDL cholesterol, possibly helping to fend off heart attacks.

Bring it!!! 

The big question.  Can blueberries cure a toothache lickity split.

 

Janet

I don't know about blueberries, but if you open a leaf of your aloe vera plant and put it on the tooth
it will stop a toothache.

Well, we have aloe vera all over...I will go pick some.

[Keepthefaith]

Thank You Magnolia and Hello Jannnnettttttt!

Off to the gym so i may one-day enjoy an award winning Bacon-Cheeseburger from the Burger-God(AKA WRECK),AKA 7 game winning streak Ranger fan......

[klaasend]

More updates to the article:

http://www.cbs42.com/content/localnews/story/Where-is-the-Natalee-Holloway-Investigation-Today/luzB0UvRiEa6F0FL4nb2Ww.cspx

Where is the Natalee Holloway Investigation Today?
  Reported by: Kimberly Rankin
Reported by: Cynthia Gould
Last Update: 4:17 pm 
 

(AP) May marks the four year anniversary of the disappearance of Natallee Holloway.  CBS 42 was in Aruba recently to find out what's happening with the investigation.  We uncovered some new allegations and more claims of a botched investigation.

Beautiful beaches, clear blue water and plenty of sunshine.  But this island still lives under a cloud.

“It's still hurting us.”

Both police and prosecutors refused to talk about the Holloway case, only saying it's open and they are following leads.

“Officially it is still open, but I don't think they are doing anything with it.”

Jossy Mansuer, who's lived on the island all his life, owns Diario, the local newspaper.  Diario's stories often directed police to witnesses and leads.


“We know more or less what happened.  She was done away with.  Murder? Yes,” said Mansuer.

“Classic case of money, power and never getting caught?”

“Exactly, influence, political, specifically from Holland,” said Mansuer.


Mansuer says the investigation was clouded by the fact that the father of suspect Joran van der Sloot was a judge who worked with the same authorities handling the Holloway case.

“He was working with all these people.  Judges developed close friendships or understandings.  I have documents that have never been published in which Joran makes statements, which were corrected in his father's handwriting saying things that call attention not to foul play but favoritism,” said Mansuer.

Mansuer questions why the three suspects were not arrested within the first 24 hours, and claims many leads were not followed.  He's also trying to confirm whether Joran confessed early on.

“The only super secret information we are after, we heard there was a confession...the papers have disappeared.”

He discounts theories Natalee was sold into sex slavery.  No similar cases have ever come up.  And as for an accidental overdose, not likely according to Mansuer, since the laws are so lenient in those cases, someone would have come forward to tell what happened.

Mansuer says the release of secret recordings made of Joran turned the island against him and brought renewed sympathy for the family, despite hard feelings over earlier calls for a tourist boycott.

We were unable to talk with anyone at the van der Sloot home in Aruba.  Joran has proclaimed his innocence in interviews, but there are still many doubters on the island.

"After all the stories, it looks like he had something to do with it,” said Evert jan van Versendaal.

Those who knew Joran from school were surprised by the accusations.

"At the school he seemed fine his mother art teacher two brothers all of them regular," said Daniel Ferrara.

But Mansuer paints a much different, darker picture...a young man with a troubled past whose parents always came to the rescue.

“This guy is way beyond control with his anger and that he is capable of doing anything,” said Mansuer.

Natallee was last seen alive at a night club called Carlos and Charlies, which is now closed, getting into the car with Joran van der Sloot and the Kalpoe brothers.

Mansuer says many in Aruba theorize she was drugged, sexually assaulted then killed...her body likely dumped in the ocean.  Natalee's father organizes periodic searches on the island.

“With time I think may be solved with time.  Don't think in the short term unless a miracle and we find Natalee's remains,” said Mansuer.

In the long term, it's a story that is still very much alive.

“It's definitely something going to be in our hearts and our minds forever.”

Joran van der Sloot we're told is still in Holland.  The Kalpoe brothers live quietly on the island, refusing interviews and staying out of the limelight.
 

[bc73]

"The Kalpoe brothers live quietly on the island, refusing interviews and staying out of the limelight." That quote pisses me off because at least they get to live. Anyone who would ever think of heading to Aruba should be forced to stay 1 night with those two bags of crap,that would change their future itineraries.

[wreck]

HEALTH BENEFITS;

Research has shown that blueberries are loaded with cell-protecting antioxidants called anthocyanins. Of the forty fruits and vegetables tested, blueberries had the highest antioxidant capacity. Antioxidants have the potential to prevent cancer and can slow the oxidation of LDL cholesterol, possibly helping to fend off heart attacks.

Bring it!!! 

The big question.  Can blueberries cure a toothache lickity split.

 

Janet

I don't know about blueberries, but if you open a leaf of your aloe vera plant and put it on the tooth
it will stop a toothache.

...... and soothe your sunburn! 

[Tamikosmom]

HEALTH BENEFITS;

Research has shown that blueberries are loaded with cell-protecting antioxidants called anthocyanins. Of the forty fruits and vegetables tested, blueberries had the highest antioxidant capacity. Antioxidants have the potential to prevent cancer and can slow the oxidation of LDL cholesterol, possibly helping to fend off heart attacks.

Bring it!!! 

The big question.  Can blueberries cure a toothache lickity split.

 

Janet

I feel for you Janet, I just had a tooth pulled a week ago Wednesday.  It was an ordeal that started with a horrible sinus infection.  Ibuprofen gave me some relief.  A lot of the internet sites recommend a tea bag resting between your cheek and the tooth that hurts.  I couldn't do it because I only had family sized tea bags.  I don't know if it really works or not. 

texasmom

The dentist accessed my voice mail and ... gave me a call.  He suggested that I take some Ibuprofen immediately.  Apparently it will relief any swelling.  Hubby has just left for Walmart pharmacy to pick up some.  The dentist told me to come to the office tomorrow around 10:00 AM and ... he would fit me it.  I think a root canal is where it is at but ... right now I would gladly have it pulled.  Immediate relief.

My hubby has aloe vera plants.  We use it for cuts and sprains but ... I have never put that juicy stuff in my mouth.  Magnolia ... I am desperate enought to try it right now and ... it may assist in healing the areas of the mouth that I burned with the asprin.

Thank everybody.

Good Night

Janet
8:35 PM

[wreck]

Thank You Magnolia and Hello Jannnnettttttt!

Off to the gym so i may one-day enjoy an award winning Bacon-Cheeseburger from the Burger-God(AKA WRECK),AKA 7 game winning streak Ranger fan......

a LOOOOOOOOOOONG suffering Ranger fan with a few weeks of joy! (hope it holds up!)

[2NJSons_Mom]

More updates to the article:

http://www.cbs42.com/content/localnews/story/Where-is-the-Natalee-Holloway-Investigation-Today/luzB0UvRiEa6F0FL4nb2Ww.cspx

Where is the Natalee Holloway Investigation Today?
  Reported by: Kimberly Rankin
Reported by: Cynthia Gould
Last Update: 4:17 pm 
 

(AP) May marks the four year anniversary of the disappearance of Natallee Holloway.  CBS 42 was in Aruba recently to find out what's happening with the investigation.  We uncovered some new allegations and more claims of a botched investigation.

Beautiful beaches, clear blue water and plenty of sunshine.  But this island still lives under a cloud.

“It's still hurting us.”

Both police and prosecutors refused to talk about the Holloway case, only saying it's open and they are following leads.

“Officially it is still open, but I don't think they are doing anything with it.”

Jossy Mansuer, who's lived on the island all his life, owns Diario, the local newspaper.  Diario's stories often directed police to witnesses and leads.


“We know more or less what happened.  She was done away with.  Murder? Yes,” said Mansuer.

“Classic case of money, power and never getting caught?”

“Exactly, influence, political, specifically from Holland,” said Mansuer.


Mansuer says the investigation was clouded by the fact that the father of suspect Joran van der Sloot was a judge who worked with the same authorities handling the Holloway case.

“He was working with all these people.  Judges developed close friendships or understandings.  I have documents that have never been published in which Joran makes statements, which were corrected in his father's handwriting saying things that call attention not to foul play but favoritism,” said Mansuer.

Mansuer questions why the three suspects were not arrested within the first 24 hours, and claims many leads were not followed.  He's also trying to confirm whether Joran confessed early on.

“The only super secret information we are after, we heard there was a confession...the papers have disappeared.”

He discounts theories Natalee was sold into sex slavery.  No similar cases have ever come up.  And as for an accidental overdose, not likely according to Mansuer, since the laws are so lenient in those cases, someone would have come forward to tell what happened.

Mansuer says the release of secret recordings made of Joran turned the island against him and brought renewed sympathy for the family, despite hard feelings over earlier calls for a tourist boycott.

We were unable to talk with anyone at the van der Sloot home in Aruba.  Joran has proclaimed his innocence in interviews, but there are still many doubters on the island.

"After all the stories, it looks like he had something to do with it,” said Evert jan van Versendaal.

Those who knew Joran from school were surprised by the accusations.

"At the school he seemed fine his mother art teacher two brothers all of them regular," said Daniel Ferrara.

But Mansuer paints a much different, darker picture...a young man with a troubled past whose parents always came to the rescue.

“This guy is way beyond control with his anger and that he is capable of doing anything,” said Mansuer.

Natallee was last seen alive at a night club called Carlos and Charlies, which is now closed, getting into the car with Joran van der Sloot and the Kalpoe brothers.

Mansuer says many in Aruba theorize she was drugged, sexually assaulted then killed...her body likely dumped in the ocean.  Natalee's father organizes periodic searches on the island.

“With time I think may be solved with time.  Don't think in the short term unless a miracle and we find Natalee's remains,” said Mansuer.

In the long term, it's a story that is still very much alive.

“It's definitely something going to be in our hearts and our minds forever.”

Joran van der Sloot we're told is still in Holland.  The Kalpoe brothers live quietly on the island, refusing interviews and staying out of the limelight.
 

Thanks to all for the updates on this.  The story is alive.   Maybe someday the writers will get the entire scoop & all the names spelled correctly.     

[klaasend]

Janet   - before you go, info on Aloe Vera and mouth problems:

http://www.iasc.org/moore.html

Hope you feel better tomorrow!

[Helen Back]

I have documents that have never been published in which Joran makes statements, which were corrected in his father's handwriting saying things that call attention not to foul play but favoritism,” said Mansuer.

I would like to see those documents.

That in itself is an outrage.   

I've got 36 years, Beth.  Easy Peasy.

Thanks, Magnolia.

[Tamikosmom]

Jossy said it will never be solved unless a miracle happens and her remains are found!

A miracle did happen. 

thanks Magnolia

You bet it did AZSunny!  Then ... according to Kyle Kingman's own word ... the John Silvetti betrayal happened.

 

Janet

[Tamikosmom]

Janet   - before you go, info on Aloe Vera and mouth problems:

http://www.iasc.org/moore.html

Hope you feel better tomorrow!

WOW!

Thanks Klaas and ... thanks Magnolia.

Janet

[Helen Back]

Thanks everyone for all the info tonight.

Hey Janet,

Why don't you have hubby pick up some topical pain relief for toothaches?  Kinda like ora-jel for babies.  Just for tonight.

I don't suffer if I don't have to. 

Hope you feel better tomorrow.