Lively Case Discussion #480 6/25 - 6/26/2006

[Easywriter]

I’ve been asked to collaborate with a novel.  Given what I have learned, I think it will be an interesting journey and very revealing.

Great news Easy!

Yeah, he is anxious to get this started.  He likes my twist with words and thinks it will be an interesting collaboration.  Of course, he is becoming a little demanding.  I can’t work that way.  My inspiration comes from nature.  Its smell and texture provokes my words.

If nothing else, it will be an interesting journey.

[SunFreak2]

Thank You!

I will be fine.  Something has been bothering me for days and it is just not clear to me what is going on.  I seem to be sick most days with a low-grade fever.  My muscles ache from head to toe.  My nose seems to out run my a$$ and I have a general feeling of doom.  BUT!  I will be fine!

Easy - Summer colds are often hard to get rid of, especially going out in the heat and then back into the A/C.  I hope you will consult with your Physician.  I also hope that you will feel better physically and emotionally very soon.

[Leslie]

BonDia  June 26, 2006
Picture of Willem van Cromvoirt (they spell it Croimcort) on Page 11
http://www.cspnv.com/archivo/pdf/26/A-26-06-2006.pdf
http://www.cspnv.com/archivo/pdf/26/B-26-06-2006.pdf
http://www.cspnv.com/archivo/pdf/26/C-26-06-2006.pdf

[terryd270]

Hi everyone and just want everyone to know I'm still here.. I just been really busy.  Easy I hope you feel better soon, I hope its just something minor..  I had a cough and went into the doctors office to see why my throat was scratchy and I had this cough and he told me that I was alergic to something and just needed to take some over the counter Loratadine and it clear up.. I never been alergic to anything but I guess we change..

[klaasend]

BonDia  June 26, 2006
Picture of Willem van Cromvoirt (they spell it Croimcort) on Page 11
http://www.cspnv.com/archivo/pdf/26/A-26-06-2006.pdf
http://www.cspnv.com/archivo/pdf/26/B-26-06-2006.pdf
http://www.cspnv.com/archivo/pdf/26/C-26-06-2006.pdf

Thanks Leslie - interresting, I thought the family moved to the Netherlands.  So now VBC wins a contract to put cameras at Playa Linda Resort.

[sandy leiva]

Sandy - Thanks, I'll make sure that information get's to the family

thank you Klass.

[MissinNat]

I watched the Chicago 510 24 video of the Drive thru and around the pond area near the hotels.  The first turn onto the beach area is reversed and then they pulled into the second left turn with conviction. I feel that they KNEW where they were going.   At 2.29 minutes I saw footprints coming out of the deeper area into the muddy area like from the deep end into shallow waters.  They seem to walk over and thru the mud.  Was this filmed near the time she disappeared? Check it out.

Anyone have a link handy?TIA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_X1QfGcQfU

Thank You, Klaas!  

Thanks, Klass!  When I watch this again, I see the black weight move.  It's probably a black plastic bag?

Also in the bottom right of the white bag something is moving.  It looks like a rat to me!

Do you all see that?

I never realized there was voice with these Chicago videos.  On this one they are talking to one of the security guards that got arrested.  Hmmm maybe he can tell us who was questioning him and filming.  The film person must know who was painting the rocks!

[Leslie]

Klaas;  Does the first picture mean anything to you?  Is it Lorenzo?  
http://s42.photobucket.com/albums/e319/imapugluver/

Some nice pictures of Natalee:
http://s41.photobucket.com/albums/e290/willie179/

[klaasend]

I watched the Chicago 510 24 video of the Drive thru and around the pond area near the hotels.  The first turn onto the beach area is reversed and then they pulled into the second left turn with conviction. I feel that they KNEW where they were going.   At 2.29 minutes I saw footprints coming out of the deeper area into the muddy area like from the deep end into shallow waters.  They seem to walk over and thru the mud.  Was this filmed near the time she disappeared? Check it out.

Anyone have a link handy?TIA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_X1QfGcQfU

Thank You, Klaas!  

Thanks, Klass!  When I watch this again, I see the black weight move.  It's probably a black plastic bag?

Also in the bottom right of the white bag something is moving.  It looks like a rat to me!

Do you all see that?

I never realized there was voice with these Chicago videos.  On this one they are talking to one of the security guards that got arrested.  Hmmm maybe he can tell us who was questioning him and filming.  The film person must know who was painting the rocks!

This is the only video that has a voice on it, the interview with Mickey John.  Yes, I'm sure the person videoing the rocks has a pretty good idea who most of the people were.  BUT, the video of the rocks was actually done at quite a distance away.

[Easywriter]

Correct. As soon as you are able, and have the time, let's start.

[thirdstrike]

We're talking "Chicago videos", eh?  Looks like I'm just in time...

How is everyone?

[sandy leiva]

Klass Id like you to please pass along this info.  I was chatting with a lawyer friend of mine and he said to tell Beth and Dave that there is a group of super sleuth forensic experts that are lawyers and do specially hard to solve cases only.  There is no fee and the case is usually presented to the team and they choose which experts will view material and reccomend actions and info.  They are a group of 90 specialist in all different fields that look at unsolved and difficult cases.  They have helped many solve cases thought to be dead files.  They are based in Philly and calll themselves the Voicog society.  they are listed in the book.  He thought they might be able to give advice on how to move the case to fuition.  Cant hurt to pass the info along.  Im not sure they know about this group.   thanks in advance.  Hope it can help.  sandy leiva

Sandy - This sounds wonderful.  Doesn't Joe Mamamma live in or near Philly? Didn't Beth spend a lot of time in Philly in the fall of last year?  That would be great if they could help her or are helping already.

Yes when my friend mentioned that group I thought the same thing.  Maybe they know about it already but i didnt want to take the chance they didnt so it cant  hurt to pass that along.  I even wondered if JQK knows about them.  It is said they have been around for the past 90 yrs and gain a new member specialist in the top of his field yearly.  Most cases they have done were difficult or unsolvable cases with little or no forensic evidence.  Hope to God it helps Natalee deserves to come home one way or the other.  Beth and the families need closure and I would just die of Joy if the pimps all get caught, PVDS too.  Eat your heart up Lackopenis.

[klaasend]

Klaas;  Does the first picture mean anything to you?  Is it Lorenzo?  
http://s42.photobucket.com/albums/e319/imapugluver/

Some nice pictures of Natalee:
http://s41.photobucket.com/albums/e290/willie179/

Had not seen that first photo before.  I have no idea if it's really Lorenzo but I saved it just in case.

[sandy leiva]

I watched the Chicago 510 24 video of the Drive thru and around the pond area near the hotels.  The first turn onto the beach area is reversed and then they pulled into the second left turn with conviction. I feel that they KNEW where they were going.   At 2.29 minutes I saw footprints coming out of the deeper area into the muddy area like from the deep end into shallow waters.  They seem to walk over and thru the mud.  Was this filmed near the time she disappeared? Check it out.

Anyone have a link handy?TIA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_X1QfGcQfU

Thank You, Klaas!  

Thanks, Klass!  When I watch this again, I see the black weight move.  It's probably a black plastic bag?

Also in the bottom right of the white bag something is moving.  It looks like a rat to me!

Do you all see that?

I never realized there was voice with these Chicago videos.  On this one they are talking to one of the security guards that got arrested.  Hmmm maybe he can tell us who was questioning him and filming.  The film person must know who was painting the rocks!

I believe the polis man is askin Micky John those questions on the pictures background

[klaasend]

Correct. As soon as you are able, and have the time, let's start.

Easy - is this in regards to the novel??

[BTgirl]

Correct. As soon as you are able, and have the time, let's start.

Easy

I just sent you a novel-length e-mail.

Please go read it. Pretty please?

[Sam]

HI again Monkeys,

Off topic again but Easy please go the DR. Do not mess around with what little health you have left. Do this for yourself as well as for us Monkeys. We need you. Also congratulations on the colloboration of a book. Can hardly wait to read it. Does that sound like pressure again? LOL

[MissinNat]

I watched the Chicago 510 24 video of the Drive thru and around the pond area near the hotels.  The first turn onto the beach area is reversed and then they pulled into the second left turn with conviction. I feel that they KNEW where they were going.   At 2.29 minutes I saw footprints coming out of the deeper area into the muddy area like from the deep end into shallow waters.  They seem to walk over and thru the mud.  Was this filmed near the time she disappeared? Check it out.

Anyone have a link handy?TIA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_X1QfGcQfU

Thank You, Klaas!  

Thanks, again, Klass!  You are always so helpful!  

Thanks, Klass!  When I watch this again, I see the black weight move.  It's probably a black plastic bag?

Also in the bottom right of the white bag something is moving.  It looks like a rat to me!

Do you all see that?

I never realized there was voice with these Chicago videos.  On this one they are talking to one of the security guards that got arrested.  Hmmm maybe he can tell us who was questioning him and filming.  The film person must know who was painting the rocks!

This is the only video that has a voice on it, the interview with Mickey John.  Yes, I'm sure the person videoing the rocks has a pretty good idea who most of the people were.  BUT, the video of the rocks was actually done at quite a distance away.

[MissinNat]

Thanks again, Klass!  You are always so helpful!

I hope you do go to the drs. to, Easy.  I know it's a pain but it might be something that they can help you with immediately.

Or...something they need to help you with!

We don't want anything to happen to you!

Missin Nat

[SunFreak2]

Another day without news or justice for Natalee. :::::sigh:::::

I've been semi-lurking and not saying much.  I have no idea why I've been so quiet lately.  I'm usually very opinionated. LOL.  I've been busy grooming all my dogs again as it's a never ending chore with all these long-haired dogs.

Angie - I'm sorry about your son's car and about his friends being hurt in their accident.  I hope the kids will be OK, and the girlfriend will recover completely.