Lively Case Discussion #480 6/25 - 6/26/2006

[Buckeye]

I agree ANNA.  He'll continue to do this type of thing, especially if this case never gets solved.  More proof he can get away with it in his mind.  He WILL slip up some day!  And I hope he burns.

Or...one of his younger brothers will have enough one day and spill the beans...just to stop him...

[Dihannah1]

Heck with all the different talents and resources on SM and the knowledge, we outta be able to make our own....

[Jacqueline]

Is Nancy Grace aware of the Arubay tapes?  She'd be perfect to air and have some hard questions.

I know I've said it before...

But you get a hungry independant film maker to work on this case and make a documentary and get it out to the people.

"ordinary" people who have not followed this case as closely as the Monkeys have absoulutely NO idea at all about the numerous tid bits of this case, let alone the aruba bay tapes.

make a film- get into a festival- and let it soar.

Great idea!  Anybody know some? Klaas? your in Cali....  Easy?  you have many contacts.  Maybe write the book and make a film out of it?

Someone with interest gets together with Red, or Klaas or both, and goes over all that has been discussed here, and goes to aruba and films.  Interviews family members, aruban people, law enforcement, lawyers and whether or not they talk or not, get it on tape.

60 minute style.

Raw footage.

It could be done, and it would be powerful.

[klaasend]

Wonder who the kid was with him, trying to protect him (Joran)?

It is that little kid he hangs out in Holland with.  He has dark hair.  Klaas has a photo of him with another kid in a bar.

Thanks San.
Do we have a name?  I have a hard time keeping up with who is who..

I've got that photo but I thought the guy trying to protect Joran was one the the ABC people.

Joran was with a friend on that flight from Holland.  If you have a picture of Joran walking down the isle on the plane you will see the kid in the background.  I think he might have a white shirt on.

This kid?

[Dihannah1]

I agree ANNA.  He'll continue to do this type of thing, especially if this case never gets solved.  More proof he can get away with it in his mind.  He WILL slip up some day!  And I hope he burns.

Or...one of his younger brothers will have enough one day and spill the beans...just to stop him...

One can only hope!  And pray that none turn out like him!

[MissinNat]

To Fox News:

How about asking the tough questions about Natalee?  

Why the painted rocks?

Who are the people painting the rocks?

Who belongs to the Lion's Den and what goes on there?

Where is the evidence that got the two security guards arrested?

Why hasn't the whole Vandersloot property and the Kalopes properties been searched?

Why hasn't Koen and his boat been searched?

Why did they not allow TES to search?

Why have the waters not been searched properly?  They don't have the right equipment in a beach community?  Is anyone safe there?

Why hasn't Joran been punished for drinking  and gambling underage?

There are a lot more questions.

Why have officials treated Natalee's parent's like dirt?

Why doesn't Karen Jansen keep the family informed at least on a weekly basis?

When is the last time they have informed the family?

If the new witness found cloth from Natalee's clothing why hasn't Beth been asked to identify it?

Where was the call to Natalee's house made from?  Who's cellphone?

If you are going to do anything on Natalee her parents should be there to add their two cents.

Do you need more of questions?

[San]

This kid?

That's him Klaas.

[Dihannah1]

Yes! Thanks Klaas,  that looks just like him!  We don't have a name?

[Buckeye]

Great work on the pics (as usual)...and on San's memory.

[oldfart]

Is Nancy Grace aware of the Arubay tapes?  She'd be perfect to air and have some hard questions.

Dihannah1


Send me her e-mail addy or someone do it.. (mine in my profile)

If I remember correctly Aruba gets the Nancy Grace channel but not the other MSM channels

Maybe with a lead-in in local papers  she could ask the people of Aruba what the heck was up with at least the painted rocks clip and ask for info .


Dumb Idea I know ~~ but maybe the people of Aruba need a chance to respond to this rock painting activitiy  vs   others speaking for them.
Who know they may even start ASKING QUESTIONS vs putting their head in the sand .
JMO of course

SYB ...

[San]

Yes! Thanks Klaas,  that looks just like him!  We don't have a name?

Future criminal.

[Dihannah1]

To Fox News:

How about asking the tough questions about Natalee?  

Why the painted rocks?

Who are the people painting the rocks?

Who belongs to the Lion's Den and what goes on there?

Where is the evidence that got the two security guards arrested?

Why hasn't the whole Vandersloot property and the Kalopes properties been searched?

Why hasn't Koen and his boat been searched?

Why did they not allow TES to search?

Why have the waters not been searched properly?  They don't have the right equipment in a beach community?  Is anyone safe there?

Why hasn't Joran been punished for drinking  and gambling underage?

There are a lot more questions.

Why have officials treated Natalee's parent's like dirt?

Why doesn't Karen Jansen keep the family informed at least on a weekly basis?

When is the last time they have informed the family?

If the new witness found cloth from Natalee's clothing why hasn't Beth been asked to identify it?

Where was the call to Natalee's house made from?  Who's cellphone?

If you are going to do anything on Natalee her parents should be there to add their two cents.

Do you need more of questions?

Missin'  I'm starting to believe Nancy is the only one who asks the tough questions.  Though I haven't seen her much on this case... I would be curious what her thoughts are on what all we have.

[klaasend]

Yes! Thanks Klaas,  that looks just like him!  We don't have a name?

Nope no name, just some friend of his in the Netherlands.  Don't remember seeing him in any of the Aruba photos.

[Dihannah1]

Yes! Thanks Klaas,  that looks just like him!  We don't have a name?

Future criminal.

LOL San!  So scary to think of ONE more!  Geesh, they already have an island of pimps.  They need no more...  But then again, he IS with Joran.  Like I always told my kids when hanging with the wrong people, "guilty by association"...

[klaasend]

Yes! Thanks Klaas,  that looks just like him!  We don't have a name?

Future criminal.

According to Babel Fish:  pimp in opleiding    

[Kat_Gram]

Wonder who the kid was with him, trying to protect him (Joran)?

It is that little kid he hangs out in Holland with.  He has dark hair.  Klaas has a photo of him with another kid in a bar.

Thanks San.
Do we have a name?  I have a hard time keeping up with who is who..

I've got that photo but I thought the guy trying to protect Joran was one the the ABC people.

Joran was with a friend on that flight from Holland.  If you have a picture of Joran walking down the isle on the plane you will see the kid in the background.  I think he might have a white shirt on.

This kid?

Dre ? There is a pic of the three of them and they look like hoodlums.
A D police ?

[Dihannah1]

And now he's spreading his pimp acts to the Netherlands!

[Dihannah1]

Like OF, I am really curious why they suddenly showed this tonight..
Was it really a slow news night?  Maybe they just obtained the full video?  Anything to do the the court date?

[Dihannah1]

O/T  Sad about Patsy Ramsey...  But like she said, She'll finally be with Jonet..

[Ono]

Like OF, I am really curious why they suddenly showed this tonight..
Was it really a slow news night?  Maybe they just obtained the full video?  Anything to do the the court date?

I'm thinking the New York judge is ready to rumble! Announcement forthcoming~