Haleigh Marie Cummings #15 5/20/09 - 6/03/09

[my2cents]

Grama..leave it to you to get this party started!


back to Crystal for one moment...
If Crystal is so worried about Ron Jr. being abused by ron and Misty....why did she leave him again?
Can anyone answer me that? she is so concerned via her attorney KP about the abuse that happened to him and Haleigh....wouldn't she want to stay in Satsuma until after the investigation or the ruling was over? be close at hand to make sure, keep a watchful eye out? let ron know that she is in this for the long haul to get her children in her custody? stay around to let ron know that she is watching him and that there better not be any abuse or she will know about it?
<<<<shaking my head>>>>

You know, I went back to the first of the case, and the first issue that came about was the absolute division of camps, and the vigil's that only one family would attend.
Something happened then..  Second, is when Geraldo came in, and.. now, don't misunderstand me, I don't think Geraldo was part of the change,  and I would imagine his producers would have talked to Crystal first. Possible, some one called the Geraldo show to get the interview.  Most of what he does, is a script in front of a teleprompter.  But, also well known to hit pressure points and nerves, which he did with Ron.  With Crystal, someone promoted her going into the abuse.  Someone in Satsuma is the one that did the Divide and Conquer bit. Someone did not want them to become a force together. Separated they would be weaker.  The someone or someones who divided them is someone to take a look at.....

Exactly!  I've had help looking at this case from someone who has many years of experience investigating crimes against children and has incredible insight into the social and legal issues surrounding the families involved in those cases.  In fact this person enlisted my help several months ago help find information on this case.  From the beginning I was told to look at both sides of the family without any blinders.  But also, given the family dynamics to look for anyone playing both sides.  I don't remember exactly how (and for now I will call her the expert) the expert said it but was extremely curious about the lack of boundaries within the  families and thought it could be very possible that someone in the middle was playing both sides of the fence.  Meanwhile, months later I have hundreds of pages of documentation..............no real answers but lots of info. 

One name that popped up that I can find no data for:  During an interview with Jeraldo, Crystal mentioned the name Candice (Candace, Kandice), her cousin, was the one that saw Haleigh back handed by Ron.  Who is Candice?  Anyone know?       

this is very interesting.....

[seahorse]

Ronald Squires age 72 is listed as a relative for Donald Robert Squires, Florida on www.Peoplefinders.com
My guess is "Joe" Stephen Squires is Texas is a dud. IMO

Could Ronald Squires be a brother to Joe Stephen Squires....Uncle to Donald RObert Squires ?.....maybe where Haleighs dad Ronald got his name from?

The Squires surname has been in Putnam for years. I will try Ronald Squires, born 1937, Florida's, 1945 census, he should be listed and his brothers or siblings.

[my2cents]

Ronald Squires age 72 is listed as a relative for Donald Robert Squires, Florida on www.Peoplefinders.com
My guess is "Joe" Stephen Squires is Texas is a dud. IMO

Could Ronald Squires be a brother to Joe Stephen Squires....Uncle to Donald RObert Squires ?.....maybe where Haleighs dad Ronald got his name from?

The Squires surname has been in Putnam for years. I will try Ronald Squires, born 1937, Florida's, 1945 census, he should be listed and his brothers or siblings.

Good idea.....you are really good with this genealogy stuff....I have got to run some errands ....and then I will try to see if I can run accross something too....  

[Heart]

Grama..leave it to you to get this party started!


back to Crystal for one moment...
If Crystal is so worried about Ron Jr. being abused by ron and Misty....why did she leave him again?
Can anyone answer me that? she is so concerned via her attorney KP about the abuse that happened to him and Haleigh....wouldn't she want to stay in Satsuma until after the investigation or the ruling was over? be close at hand to make sure, keep a watchful eye out? let ron know that she is in this for the long haul to get her children in her custody? stay around to let ron know that she is watching him and that there better not be any abuse or she will know about it?
<<<<shaking my head>>>>

You know, I went back to the first of the case, and the first issue that came about was the absolute division of camps, and the vigil's that only one family would attend.
Something happened then..  Second, is when Geraldo came in, and.. now, don't misunderstand me, I don't think Geraldo was part of the change,  and I would imagine his producers would have talked to Crystal first. Possible, some one called the Geraldo show to get the interview.  Most of what he does, is a script in front of a teleprompter.  But, also well known to hit pressure points and nerves, which he did with Ron.  With Crystal, someone promoted her going into the abuse.  Someone in Satsuma is the one that did the Divide and Conquer bit. Someone did not want them to become a force together. Separated they would be weaker.  The someone or someones who divided them is someone to take a look at.....

Exactly!  I've had help looking at this case from someone who has many years of experience investigating crimes against children and has incredible insight into the social and legal issues surrounding the families involved in those cases.  In fact this person enlisted my help several months ago help find information on this case.  From the beginning I was told to look at both sides of the family without any blinders.  But also, given the family dynamics to look for anyone playing both sides.  I don't remember exactly how (and for now I will call her the expert) the expert said it but was extremely curious about the lack of boundaries within the  families and thought it could be very possible that someone in the middle was playing both sides of the fence.  Meanwhile, months later I have hundreds of pages of documentation..............no real answers but lots of info. 

One name that popped up that I can find no data for:  During an interview with Jeraldo, Crystal mentioned the name Candice (Candace, Kandice), her cousin, was the one that saw Haleigh back handed by Ron.  Who is Candice?  Anyone know?       

Possibly:

♥We ♥ u Haleigh Bug♥ is really wishing everyone would just grow up and quit playing high school games.

http://www.myspace.com/phillipandcrystal

[Brandi]

Possibly:

♥We ♥ u Haleigh Bug♥ is really wishing everyone would just grow up and quit playing high school games.

http://www.myspace.com/phillipandcrystal

Hi Heart.

Whose site is that? I am confuzzled.

TIA

[Brandi]

Possibly:

♥We ♥ u Haleigh Bug♥ is really wishing everyone would just grow up and quit playing high school games.

http://www.myspace.com/phillipandcrystal

Hi Heart.

Whose site is that? I am confuzzled.

TIA

After looking closely at what I can see (I am not a member there) ...I see Crystal Sheffield is the center person in the picture there:



Still, I am confuzzled.

[Brandi]

I am thinking that blonde in the above picture may be Lisa.

Remember this picture?


The caption said: Family friend Lisa Finley, standing, Crystal Sheffield, second left, the mother of Haleigh Cummings, and Teresa Neves, right 

Heck, I dunno. Not even sure why we are trying to identify her. LOL

It's hot here today.

[JNGA]

Well she has more than one myspace and on this one you get to see who phil is.

http://www.myspace.com/philandcrys

[my2cents]

    SQUIRES RONALD;
SQUIRES HAROLD E JR;
SQUIRES TERESA A;
SALTY TERESA A WRIGHT DAVID A;
WRIGHT MARGARET A 10/06/2004 DEED  ORANGE 20040639305 7647/310 2

SQUIRES TERESA A;
SQUIRES RONALD H
MORTGAGE ELECTRONIC REGISTRATION SYSTEMS INC 02/16/2005 SATISFACTION  OSCEOLA 2005040177 2705/1764 1
    Description: 
https://www.myfloridacounty.com/serv/MyFloridaCounty/ORI/Order

I don't know if this is anything or not

[Heart]

Possibly:

♥We ♥ u Haleigh Bug♥ is really wishing everyone would just grow up and quit playing high school games.

http://www.myspace.com/phillipandcrystal

Hi Heart.

Whose site is that? I am confuzzled.

TIA

Hi Brandi all.  I got confused myself.   I did a google on Candace +Satsuma search and found that page.  After I posted it I noticed that it said Crystal and not Candace.  However it does lead to some that we were not aware of that either knows or is familiar with Haleigh.

[my2cents]

http://www.putnam-fl.com/clk_apps/civ_dkts/frame.php

Plaintiffs
SQUIRES ELISA
SQUIRES DONALD

 Defendants
SQUIRES BARBARA FKA
SQUIRES RONALD
SHIVER BARBARA 


Date Docket Description
1995-07-18 001.COMPLAINT 

1995-07-20 002.SUMMONS - SHERIFF - BARBARA SQUIRES SUMM RTD 

1995-07-20 >7-26-95 SVD 7-24-95 DUE 8-13-95 

1995-07-20 003.SUMMONS - SHERIFF - RONALD SQUIRES SUMM RTD 

1995-07-20 >7-26-95 SVD 7-24-95 DUE 8-13-95 

1995-08-10 004.ANSWER / RONALD SQUIRES AND BARBARA SQUIRES 

1995-10-19 005.NOTICE OF TAKING DEPOSITION: 11/30/95 @ 2:00 PM 

1995-10-19 >ON RONALD SQUIRES; 11/30/95 @ 2:30 PM ON 

1995-10-19 >BARBARA SQUIRES 

1995-12-20 006.NOTICE OF VOLUNTARY DISMISSAL REC OR BK 689 

1995-12-20 >PG 203 

[my2cents]

http://www.putnam-fl.com/clk_apps/civ_dkts/frame.php

Plaintiffs
PALATKA HEALTH CARE CENTER  Defendants
FINLEY LISA L 


Date Docket Description
1992-05-22 001.STATEMENT OF CLAIM $649.38 WITH ATTACHMENTS 

1992-05-22 >NOTICE TO APPEAR FOR PRETRIAL CONFERENCE ON 

1992-05-22 >JULY 9 1992 @ 9:30 A.M. $12.00 SS PUT CO 

1992-06-04 002.NOTICE RET SERV ON LISA FINLEY ON JUNE 1 1992 

1992-06-04 >PRETRIAL JUDGE MILLER: PL & DEFT 

1992-06-04 >PRESENT..ADMITTED.. JUDGMENT AGAINST DEFT IN 

1992-06-04 >THE AMOUNT OF $649.38 + $62.50 COST FOR A TOTAL 

1992-06-04 >OF $711.88 

1992-07-16 003.FINAL JUDGMENT AGAINST LISA L FINLEY SIGNED 

1992-07-16 >JULY 15 1992 COPY MAILED TO ALL - OR BK 698 PGS 

1992-07-16 >1633 & 1634 

[cookie]

Possibly:

♥We ♥ u Haleigh Bug♥ is really wishing everyone would just grow up and quit playing high school games.

http://www.myspace.com/phillipandcrystal

Hi Heart.

Whose site is that? I am confuzzled.

TIA

After looking closely at what I can see (I am not a member there) ...I see Crystal Sheffield is the center person in the picture there:



Still, I am confuzzled.

on that page...there at the bottom left hand corner...a woman with a newborn baby...says Kim P...is that Kim P as in lawyer Kim P? and if so, what is it doing on that page...and mlee is on the right hand side of the page tee hee! at least her avatar is! take a peak...

[cookie]

just went back there and the pictures had changed! does that happen on these sites? ^^^

[Brandi]

just went back there and the pictures had changed! does that happen on these sites? ^^^

Yes. They are random and change with each page view.

[my2cents]

http://www.123people.com/ext/frm?ti=person%20finder&search_term=amanda%20lauramore&search_country=US&st=person%20finder&target_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.sun-sentinel.com%2Fnews%2Flocal%2Fsouthflorida%2Fsfl-haleigh-cummings-pics%2C0%2C1791879.photogallery&section=weblink&wrt_id=217


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Where is Haleigh?
(REINHOLD MATAY, ASSOCIATED PRESS / February 12, 2009)
Amanda Lauramore comforts her cousin Crystal Sheffield who is the mother of the missing five-year-old girl, Haleigh Cummings who was last seen in Satsuma, Fla., Thursday, Feb. 12, 2009.



There is a very good who's who tree list here....

 http://www.123people.com/ext/frm?ti=person%20finder&search_term=amanda%20lauramore&search_country=US&st=person%20finder&target_url=http%3A%2F%2Flrd.yahooapis.com%2F_ylc%3DX3oDMTVndDdzNWpyBF9TAzIwMjMxNTI3MDIEYXBwaWQDc1k3Wlo2clYzNEhSZm5ZdGVmcmkzRUx4VG5makpERG5QOWVKV1NGSkJHcTJ1V1dFa0xVdm5IYnNBeUNyVkd5Y2REVElUX2tlBGNsaWVudANib3NzBHNlcnZpY2UDQk9TUwRzbGsDdGl0bGUEc3JjcHZpZANYNzhhN21LSWNycTNLMkl3LndKTk9RUEpXODV4a2tvbHBpOEFBNGhN%2FSIG%3D11lsq2r3p%2F**http%253A%2F%2Fwww.refugeesunleashed.net%2Fabout18620.html&section=weblink&wrt_id=227



wow that was a really long http: addy I guess I did that right?

[my2cents]

there is a very long record for Amanda...too long to post....check it out at...

http://www.putnam-fl.com/clk_apps/crim_dkts/frame.php

type in lauramore%

[my2cents]

Well she has more than one myspace and on this one you get to see who phil is.

http://www.myspace.com/philandcrys

Is that Crystal?

[klaasend]

Well she has more than one myspace and on this one you get to see who phil is.

http://www.myspace.com/philandcrys

Is that Crystal?

That is not Crystal, Haliegh's mom IMO. 

[cookie]

Well she has more than one myspace and on this one you get to see who phil is.

http://www.myspace.com/philandcrys

Is that Crystal?

the name before said Crystal Heuer or something like that...maybe this Crystal is a friend of Crystal Sheffield and that is why the first picture was of Crystal S. and 2 other friends? dunno..