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Topic: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15 5/20/09 - 6/03/09 (Read 294215 times)
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Thanks!
hello all...new monkeys I see! great..fresh ideas...fresh eyes..fresh brain storming....welcome to all..
So, mlee posted yesterday...perhaps she will be here later tonight or tomorrow...thanks to all who answered my inquiry about her...
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Well.. Just finished listening to the interview and I took notes..
1. Misty cell phone was taken by investigators- It can show the numbers and also they can get the pings and info from the cell bill.
2. Surveilance tapes around the area have been check from LE
3. They were wondering why cashier check to Ron for child support took awhile.
Well i know if child suppoet is owed you send it to the child support department then they post it and send it to Ron and thats why it might take awhile.. I receive child support and I know in NJ thats how it works.. But not sure how it works in Florida
4. Cobra's client has an area that they wanted to check by certified search dog ( Cobra didnt say who his client was)
5. Washing machine - Cobra was told of 2 stories- the washing machine was on- the washing machine was not on
6. They don't have much info on the van or the blankets- They dont know if it is true that the blanket found in the van was washed, let alone it LE does have the blanket.
7. Time line is still in question
8. Ronald was believed to be @ work from the guys @ work stating he ate @ the cafateria his cell pings hit tower of his work area..Someone said unless he left his cell phone @ work if he left and came back.
9. Misty is leading them down the wrong road with the inconsistancies according to Cobra..
10. Kim stated she cannot file a emergency hearing for child custody when DCF is involved.
11. DCF filed an extention becasue new claims came inand they have to be investigated
12. Ron was Amber for 3 and half years and Misty 5- 6 months according to Kim
13. Crystal is not on drugs.. Crystal was on zanax for 1 month after haleigh went missing and has not refilled the bottle. The only medizine she is on is for seizures.
Crytal is not on Loritab or any drugs. When she went to ER they check your blood. DCF has Crystal's records. This all was stated by Kim
14. Ron and his attorney have not gone to meet with LE yet and Crystal has with her attorney.
15. 2 ways for an investigation- This case is tight lip. They were questioning it.
1 Open air
2. Tight lip
16. Kim stated the investigation is on going and LE doing a amazing job.
Just Thinking Outloud...
Did LE conficated any computers in that home ?..
I hope i did not make any notes incorrect from the interview today with Simon.
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JG....where is this interview at? thanks..
where is everyone tonight?
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Quote from: Jerseygirl345 on May 31, 2009, 08:34:47 PM
Well.. Just finished listening to the interview and I took notes..
1. Misty cell phone was taken by investigators- It can show the numbers and also they can get the pings and info from the cell bill.
2. Surveilance tapes around the area have been check from LE
3. They were wondering why cashier check to Ron for child support took awhile.
Well i know if child suppoet is owed you send it to the child support department then they post it and send it to Ron and thats why it might take awhile.. I receive child support and I know in NJ thats how it works.. But not sure how it works in Florida
4. Cobra's client has an area that they wanted to check by certified search dog ( Cobra didnt say who his client was)
5. Washing machine - Cobra was told of 2 stories- the washing machine was on- the washing machine was not on
6. They don't have much info on the van or the blankets- They dont know if it is true that the blanket found in the van was washed, let alone it LE does have the blanket.
7. Time line is still in question
8. Ronald was believed to be @ work from the guys @ work stating he ate @ the cafateria his cell pings hit tower of his work area..Someone said unless he left his cell phone @ work if he left and came back.
9. Misty is leading them down the wrong road with the inconsistancies according to Cobra..
10. Kim stated she cannot file a emergency hearing for child custody when DCF is involved.
11. DCF filed an extention becasue new claims came inand they have to be investigated
12. Ron was Amber for 3 and half years and Misty 5- 6 months according to Kim
13. Crystal is not on drugs.. Crystal was on zanax for 1 month after haleigh went missing and has not refilled the bottle. The only medizine she is on is for seizures.
Crytal is not on Loritab or any drugs. When she went to ER they check your blood. DCF has Crystal's records. This all was stated by Kim
14. Ron and his attorney have not gone to meet with LE yet and Crystal has with her attorney.
15. 2 ways for an investigation- This case is tight lip. They were questioning it.
1 Open air
2. Tight lip
16. Kim stated the investigation is on going and LE doing a amazing job.
Just Thinking Outloud...
Did LE conficated any computers in that home ?..
I hope i did not make any notes incorrect from the interview today with Simon.
I have a few more minutes left to listen to, but took a break to eat dinner. Your notes are accurate as far as I see.
I would add that Kim Picazio called in and stated that Crystal had never fought the child custody ruling that was made.
I have heard she has and she hasn't up until now.
Good note-taking, JG!
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so Crystal had never fought to get the kids or keep the kids before now? is that right?
so then when others have said that Crystal was too intimidated and didn't have money for an attorney etc..that was not accurate then? she just didn't take the time or effort to try to get the kids? even though they were in an "abusive" home? is that correct?
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Quote from: cookie on May 31, 2009, 08:47:34 PM
so Crystal had never fought to get the kids or keep the kids before now? is that right?
so then when others have said that Crystal was too intimidated and didn't have money for an attorney etc..that was not accurate then? she just didn't take the time or effort to try to get the kids? even though they were in an "abusive" home? is that correct?
Kim P said after the initial "final" ruling, she did not fight for custody again.
That's how I understood what she said.
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Quote from: cookie on May 31, 2009, 08:47:34 PM
so Crystal had never fought to get the kids or keep the kids before now? is that right?
so then when others have said that Crystal was too intimidated and didn't have money for an attorney etc..that was not accurate then? she just didn't take the time or effort to try to get the kids? even though they were in an "abusive" home? is that correct?
Not entirely true.. Lets not twist it - Apparently according to Kim- Crystal did not understand even though the judge gave
residential
custody not full custody Crystal could of petition a modification.
Aslo according to Kim alot of people don't have money in the Putnam area and instead they just call DCF for an investigation....
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Quote from: cookie on May 31, 2009, 08:47:34 PM
so Crystal had never fought to get the kids or keep the kids before now? is that right?
so then when others have said that Crystal was too intimidated and didn't have money for an attorney etc..that was not accurate then? she just didn't take the time or effort to try to get the kids? even though they were in an "abusive" home? is that correct?
I heard the show also and from what I understoof per KP is that the order was made by a magistrate and RC was then awarded custody of the Children. At some point after that award was made CS had made complaints to LE? that RC was possibly driving by and/or harassing CS??? (I'm not 100% sure on the description here please bear with me on that.)
Then when the police? report was made there was an option listed for CS to petition the court in regards to custody arrangements but that the judge whom she eventually appeared in front of said no (according to Kim P. the judges do not like to contradict each others rulings type of thing?) Anyhow Crystal was told by the 2nd or 3rd? judge that the custody arrangement was made final and that terminology being a "final ruling" led CS to believe that she had no other options in the matter either current or in the future.
Legal jargon confuses the best of us. We are not born knowing the laws but too they always say that ignorance is no excuse. And on that note...Please take my own understanding for what it's worth. (Which may not be very much.)
I sure hope that made sense.
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Quote from: Jerseygirl345 on May 31, 2009, 08:56:32 PM
Quote from: cookie on May 31, 2009, 08:47:34 PM
so Crystal had never fought to get the kids or keep the kids before now? is that right?
so then when others have said that Crystal was too intimidated and didn't have money for an attorney etc..that was not accurate then? she just didn't take the time or effort to try to get the kids? even though they were in an "abusive" home? is that correct?
Not entirely true.. Lets not twist it - Apparently according to Kim- Crystal did not understand even though the judge gave
residential
custody not full custody Crystal could of petition a modification.
Aslo according to Kim alot of people don't have money in the Putnam area and instead they just call DCF for an investigation....
not twisting anything...just asking for clarification ...
people who don't have money get attorneys assigned to them all the time...lots of people don't have money..not just in that county...if there is a will there is a way...and that is not twisting anything.
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Quote from: cookie on May 31, 2009, 09:09:48 PM
Quote from: Jerseygirl345 on May 31, 2009, 08:56:32 PM
Quote from: cookie on May 31, 2009, 08:47:34 PM
so Crystal had never fought to get the kids or keep the kids before now? is that right?
so then when others have said that Crystal was too intimidated and didn't have money for an attorney etc..that was not accurate then? she just didn't take the time or effort to try to get the kids? even though they were in an "abusive" home? is that correct?
Not entirely true.. Lets not twist it - Apparently according to Kim- Crystal did not understand even though the judge gave
residential
custody not full custody Crystal could of petition a modification.
Aslo according to Kim alot of people don't have money in the Putnam area and instead they just call DCF for an investigation....
not twisting anything...just asking for clarification ...
people who don't have money get attorneys assigned to them all the time...lots of people don't have money..not just in that county...if there is a will there is a way...and that is not twisting anything.
It was also stated by Kim that Crystal told the truth about using drugs and Ron didn't. he also stated to the judge he was living with his mother and she was helping taking care of the kids. Which he moved out and Ron and Amber moved in together..
I am going back to court with my ex next month for child support and I can not afford an attorney and let alone understand all the jumbo legal terms, but I know this the biggest liars always wins unless you have a good attorney..
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Quote from: cookie on May 31, 2009, 09:09:48 PM
Quote from: Jerseygirl345 on May 31, 2009, 08:56:32 PM
Quote from: cookie on May 31, 2009, 08:47:34 PM
so Crystal had never fought to get the kids or keep the kids before now? is that right?
so then when others have said that Crystal was too intimidated and didn't have money for an attorney etc..that was not accurate then? she just didn't take the time or effort to try to get the kids? even though they were in an "abusive" home? is that correct?
Not entirely true.. Lets not twist it - Apparently according to Kim- Crystal did not understand even though the judge gave
residential
custody not full custody Crystal could of petition a modification.
Aslo according to Kim alot of people don't have money in the Putnam area and instead they just call DCF for an investigation....
not twisting anything...just asking for clarification ...
people who don't have money get attorneys assigned to them all the time...lots of people don't have money..not just in that county...if there is a will there is a way...and that is not twisting anything.
(I acknowledge that this message was not meant for or to me but...lol.)
According to what KP said during the interview it appears that Crystal was attempting to have the case reheard but that since she was unfamiliar with court proceedure she went about it the wrong way. She also was told by a judge that the custody judgement was final. My take on it is that after that last judge told her that it was a final judgement then she pretty much believed that she had no other options in the matter.
So basically, according to KP, Crystal was ignorant to the law because in reality she could petition the court for a modification to the order. Crystal just didn't know her rights or the laws pertaining to family law.
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Thanks for the note taking, and clarifications on that interview
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Quote from: no rose colored glasses on May 31, 2009, 09:22:41 PM
Thanks for the note taking, and clarifications on that interview
LOL I'm doing my best to understand it anyway lol.
After hearing all of the interview and mulling what was said around for a while I am finding room to think it is possible that Haleigh is alive. I am saying that because I am hoping and praying that Crystal just lost it one night after finding out information about Misty being the caregiver of her two precious Children. My oh my how this case has it's twists and turns.
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Quote from: Jerseygirl345 on May 31, 2009, 09:17:35 PM
Quote from: cookie on May 31, 2009, 09:09:48 PM
Quote from: Jerseygirl345 on May 31, 2009, 08:56:32 PM
Quote from: cookie on May 31, 2009, 08:47:34 PM
so Crystal had never fought to get the kids or keep the kids before now? is that right?
so then when others have said that Crystal was too intimidated and didn't have money for an attorney etc..that was not accurate then? she just didn't take the time or effort to try to get the kids? even though they were in an "abusive" home? is that correct?
Not entirely true.. Lets not twist it - Apparently according to Kim- Crystal did not understand even though the judge gave
residential
custody not full custody Crystal could of petition a modification.
Aslo according to Kim alot of people don't have money in the Putnam area and instead they just call DCF for an investigation....
not twisting anything...just asking for clarification ...
people who don't have money get attorneys assigned to them all the time...lots of people don't have money..not just in that county...if there is a will there is a way...and that is not twisting anything.
It was also stated by Kim that Crystal told the truth about using drugs and Ron didn't. he also stated to the judge he was living with his mother and she was helping taking care of the kids. Which he moved out and Ron and Amber moved in together..
I am going back to court with my ex next month for child support and I can not afford an attorney and let alone understand all the jumbo legal terms, but I know this the biggest liars always wins unless you have a good attorney..
Just want to add something else to this interview...Kim had also stated that Crystal was unaware of a LEGAL AID ATTORNEY..that she could have tried to get a hold of one to help her due to financial strain. So, anyone else maybe this could be an option, if funds are low to get some help when dealing with child support.
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Quote from: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 31, 2009, 09:27:09 PM
Quote from: no rose colored glasses on May 31, 2009, 09:22:41 PM
Thanks for the note taking, and clarifications on that interview
LOL I'm doing my best to understand it anyway lol.
After hearing all of the interview and mulling what was said around for a while I am finding room to think it is possible that Haleigh is alive. I am saying that because I am hoping and praying that Crystal just lost it one night after finding out information about Misty being the caregiver of her two precious Children. My oh my how this case has it's twists and turns.
I am wondering what area Cobra's client wants to have a certified dog search...
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Also from what I understand Ron and his attorney still haven't gone to speak with LE who have made it clear that they had a few things that they wanted to clear up in the case. My question is...WHAT'S THE HOLDUP?????
I appologize for the caps but seriously the questioning pertains to his missing Daughter...His heart remember?
Nothing could hold me back if it were me looking to find out what had happened to my Child and ultimately nothing could hold me back from trying to find my child period.
So why would Ron be reluctant to answer LE's questions?
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I also listened to Simon's broadcast. I wanted so much to hear him state that there was TIP that they were looking into. INSTEAD..........
Simon..... Ms Pickles is there any new this week concerning Haleigh???
Ms Pickles.....ummmmmmm (sounded like Misty)....NO Simon!!!!
WTF...I was waiting for Ms Pickles to say something about the TIP and they were wanting dogs to do the search.........NOTHING EVEN MENTIONED DURING THE WHOLE BROADCAST. I mean this TIP was right on Simon's website page in his writings.
I have read on another forum that the lady was to go, but due to the heat and the snakes that the dog would not be going. I have not seen anything posted about the search. Will keep checking and post what I see. Uggggggghhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Quote from: GramaMonkey on May 31, 2009, 09:49:39 PM
I also listened to Simon's broadcast. I wanted so much to hear him state that there was TIP that they were looking into. INSTEAD..........
Simon..... Ms Pickles is there any new this week concerning Haleigh???
Ms Pickles.....ummmmmmm (sounded like Misty)....NO Simon!!!!
WTF...I was waiting for Ms Pickles to say something about the TIP and they were wanting dogs to do the search.........NOTHING EVEN MENTIONED DURING THE WHOLE BROADCAST. I mean this TIP was right on Simon's website page in his writings.
I have read on another forum that the lady was to go, but due to the heat and the snakes that the dog would not be going. I have not seen anything posted about the search. Will keep checking and post what I see. Uggggggghhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yep nothing from Simon or Pickles about the TIP, but Cobra did say his client wanted a certified dog to search a particular area.....
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Quote from: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 31, 2009, 09:27:09 PM
Quote from: no rose colored glasses on May 31, 2009, 09:22:41 PM
Thanks for the note taking, and clarifications on that interview
LOL I'm doing my best to understand it anyway lol.
After hearing all of the interview and mulling what was said around for a while I am finding room to think it is possible that Haleigh is alive. I am saying that because I am hoping and praying that Crystal just lost it one night after finding out information about Misty being the caregiver of her two precious Children. My oh my how this case has it's twists and turns.
I am wondering what area Cobra's client wants to have a certified dog search...
Jersey, did you get the impression that he had contacted LE and yet nothing has been done??? Maybe I misunderstood what he meant.
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Quote from: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 31, 2009, 09:47:40 PM
Also from what I understand Ron and his attorney still haven't gone to speak with LE who have made it clear that they had a few things that they wanted to clear up in the case. My question is...WHAT'S THE HOLDUP?????
I appologize for the caps but seriously the questioning pertains to his missing Daughter...His heart remember?
Nothing could hold me back if it were me looking to find out what had happened to my Child and ultimately nothing could hold me back from trying to find my child period.
So why would Ron be reluctant to answer LE's questions?
Good question!!! Maybe afraid that he may say the wrong thing...maybe knows where she is...
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=> Morgan Dana Harrington, 20yrs missing VA Tech 10/17/09(BODY FOUND)
=> Hannah Elizabeth Graham missing since 9/13/14 Charlottesville, VA
=> Alexis Murphy, missing since 8/3/13 Charlottesville, VA
=> Samantha Ann Clarke 19yrs. old Orange Va. Last seen 09/13/10
=> Dashad Sage Smith missing since 11/20/12 Charlottesville, VA
=> Cassandra Morton 23, Lynchburg, missing 10/10/09 body found 11/29/09
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High Profile Crimes and Trials (not missing persons)
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=> Jodi Arias trial - for the murder of Travis Alexander
=> Trial of George Zimmerman - 2nd Degree Murder of 17yr old Trayvon Martin
=> Scott Peterson Appeal of Murder Conviction
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Missing, Exploited and True Crime
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=> Missing Exploited and True Crime
===> Missing Persons Forum
=====> Missing Found or Presumed Deceased
=====> Missing Found Safe
=====> Missing Endangered Runaways
=====> Resourses, Search Groups and Fundraisers
===> Crimes Against Children, Elderly and the Disabled
===> Crimes of Passion/Anger
===> Serial Killers and Their Possible Victims
===> Unsolved Crimes
=====> Finally Solved
===> Haleigh Marie Cummings - Florida
===> Adji Desir - Florida
===> Somer Renee Thompson 7 yo, Orange Park FL 10/19/09(BODY FOUND)
===> Tracy Ocasio - Orlando/Ocoee, Florida
===> Shaniya Nicole Davis, 5 Fayetteville, NC Missing 11/10/09(BODY FOUND)
===> Holly Bobo, 20yrs old missing Parsons, TN 4/13/11
===> Hailey Dunn - 13yrs old - Colorado City, TX missing 12/27/10 (Body Found)
===> Elizabeth Olten - 9yrs, Jefferson City, MO missing 10/21/09 (BODY FOUND)
===> Lindsey Baum - McCleary, WA 6/26/09
===> Amber Leeanne Dubois 14yrs old - Escondido, CA(BODY FOUND)
===> Chelsea King, 17, Missing 2-25-2010 Rancho Bernadino CA (BODY FOUND)
===> Sandra Cantu, 8 years old - Tracy, CA(BODY FOUND)
===> Madeleine McCann - Portugal
===> Christine Marie Sheddy - missing since 11/13/2007 - Maryland(BODY FOUND)
===> Nevaeh Amyah Buchanan 5yr Monroe Michigan(BODY FOUND)
===> Gabriel Johnson 8 mo., last seen 12/26/09 Tempe AZ-San Antonio TX
===> Stacy Ann Peterson missing & Kathleen Savio murdered - Illinois
===> Zahra Clare Baker - 10yrs old Hickory, NC (Body Found)
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Natalee Holloway
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=> Natalee Holloway
=> Important Case Documents
===> Joran Statements/PV's
===> Paulus Statements/PV's
===> Deepak Statements/PV's
===> Satish Statements/PV's
===> Misc Statements/PV's
=> LCD Archive
=> Shango/Simian and other Codetalkers
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Current Events and Musings
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=> Monkey Musings / Open Discussion
=> Pop Culture Main
===> Hugely Popular TV Shows
===> Movies and Television
===> Social Media
===> Music
===> Books
===> Scared Monkeys Radio with Dana Pretzer
=> Health and Medical Issues
=> Food and Product Recalls
=> News of the Day
=> Business News
=> Sports
=> Political Forum
=> Religion (discussion and debate)
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The Monkey Lounge
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=> The Monkey Lounge
===> Fashion & Decorating
===> What's Cooking? Recipes
===> Games
=> Inspirational
===> Memorial - Gone but Never Forgotten
===> Gratefulness - Light a Candle in Prayer
===> Inspirational scriptures, songs, stories and prayers
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Natalee Discussions (2005 ARCHIVE)
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=> Natalee Holloway
=> Theory and Speculation
=> Links and References Only
=> Natalee Breaking News Archive
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General Discussions (2005 ARCHIVE)
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=> News Issues
=> Chit Chat
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